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"This Land Is Your Land"Thoughts on the Woody Guthrie classic. It's been called a settlers anthem by some on the left, and is constantly misused by the right. I personally love it, and view it as a celebration of the beauty of the untouched American landscape. How it is above private ownership and should be respected. It pains me to see it played at every US president's inauguration, and the irony is always lost on the masses. Guthrie himself was a known communist. And wrote "This machine kills fascists" on his guitar (which I'm definitely getting tattooed one day). I don't believe he would intentionally write a pro-colonial song, maybe he could have done so out of ignorance. As a non-American leftist, I think the song is great. Both as a piece of art and in terms of its philosophy. I think the song has been stolen by the right, which has tainted its reputation, but we should reclaim it. I would love to hear opinions from some the American left, who are obviously closer to the potential issues with the song.
A Helpful Guide to Foraging Wild Edible Plants, for Beginners
[Here's the whole Makhno comic for those interested](https://www.docdroid.net/PhtLwKv/mhn-pdf)
International women's day.8.3 or 3.8. Either way, it demonstrates the best parts of a woman. Ass and tiddies.
Pigs also go feral very fast when not regularly cared for by humans. When feral, they will kill/eat humans.
An exploited animal that when left alone kills violently but can seem decent is somehow not a good choice for you?
Pigs are part of livestock for humans and during the holocene extinction event their population continues to grow (like funds put into police budgets), but they still are not a good choice for you?
Confusing.
If you're hunting or raising and killing animals for meat yourself, then yes, stop that first. In that situation the relationship between the action and the harm is very direct. Another action that falls into this category is stop killing bugs, something that many people who call themselves vegan do.
When we talk about what products we consume, the relationship between the action (buying a product) and the harm (an animal being killed in a field or slaughterhouse) is much less direct. Animal industries are heavily subsidized, have powerful lobby groups, and generally waste a lot of food, all factors that reduce the strength of the relationship between someone consuming less and fewer animals being raised and slaughtered.
Vegan ideology has been very successful in convincing people that seeing animals as food is the only way we perpetuate speciesism, but there many more things we should unlearn. A major one is how we share our spaces with other animals, including bringing bugs outside when they're trapped indoors, changing how we think about "pests", and seeing our companion animals as equals. Eating meat can be on this list too, because we generally don't eat the bodies of people who we respect, but it's just that, a way we can take a stance against speciesism in our personal lives among other ways.
Lastly, if we think that we're so responsible for the things we purchase that we can't contribute to related social change unless we don't contribute to that production chain, we should refrain from purchasing pretty much all products. It's not consistent to treat this one industry differently from others when we know that so much human and nonhuman suffering and exploitation goes on in pretty much every industry. Solutions to this would be to advocate to consume less, grow your own food, buy at thrift stores, repair your products, and dumpster dive. I think advocating for these things is more consistent than advocating for boycotting the animal industries, but it's only feasible to live like this for the few people who have the time and space to do this.
This question is THE missing piece in an organized revolution regardless of what your endgame is, and I would consider it to be a very dangerous line of questioning to pursue. The government is fine with you objecting as an individual or owning guns as an individual because these things allow us to symbolically exercise first and second amendment rights. Organized, collective action has the power to actually disrupt the status quo and tends to be the common factor among those the FBI targets and dismantles.
I've been meaning to do some research on Fred Hampton and I'm nowhere near educated enough on the subject to give you an answer in this post, but I do know that he was extremely popular among white people (including conservatives, many of whom threw away their confederate flags after working with him for a bit.) If anyone has figured out how to do it, it was most likely him. But to reiterate on my previous point, his agenda made him a bigger target than MLK, Newton, or Seale.
The Black Panthers in general had a pretty effective three-pronged strategy: Feed, educate, arm.
The unfortunate truth is that there's a lot more noise now than there was during the civil rights movement. Propaganda has improved in terms of quantity and effectiveness, and it's reaching a point where I'm not sure any level of reasoning can keep some people from shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly (and then blaming someone else.)
But, in a general sense, persuasion has a lot to do with finding common ground and finding a way to prioritize that common ground over differences. Sometimes that can mean sucking it up with regards to policies you really don't like. Your views on abortion or trans rights needs to be set aside, there's time to fight over that after you've gotten the bigger job done. The person you're trying to reach may think George Soros ***really*** has to taken out. Don't argue their point, simply negotiate until you find a common enemy.
You can also go through the back door with some of the common issues and approach things from a totally unorthodox angle. For instance, when talking about police reform/abolition, I like to frame the issue as an internal issue with police. Good cops and whistleblowers are often ignored, threatened, or fired for speaking out against misconduct. Another chilling possibility is that the rate of police suicide isn't actually going up, but rather that objectors are straight up murdered and their deaths are reported as suicides. Framing this in terms of blue on blue violence (or protecting our whistleblowers in uniform) is a narrative that the Blue Lives Matter folk have no good rebuttal to.
I'm interested to see how far vegans would be willing to go in a society where anarchism exists but people don't accept the vegan gospel. Would we see a militant movement willing to kill people for cows and chickens?
I think the uncomfortable truth for vegans is that humans are prey animals, and most people do not and never will have any qualms about eating meat or consuming animal products. The only way to stop them would be with violence, and I don't think it's the kind of movement which will ever have the numbers to impose veganism by force.
I think the best they can hope for is to reduce the amount of meat people consume, but even then only for practical purposes. Maybe they can curb the most ruthless of agricultural practices.
But if politics is the art of the possible, it seems like a snipe hunt to me.
That is my opinion as well. Nothing suggests our species has a special role to be the overseer of all nature beyond the point of our own interest in keeping the natural world in a state where we can survive as a part of it, and there is no form of life that has ever existed without inflicting harm on other life, one way or another. Even plants and single-celled organisms kill one another, and not always indirectly- and there's growing evidence that plants have their own form of sentience that isn't nearly as obvious to us as that of animals. Ultimately, that means that we end up causing living beings suffering when we eat them no matter what we do.
The only way to really remain true to that kind of impossible ideal is to commit suicide, thus eliminating the ability to do any kind of harm to other life forms at all. Obviously, that isn't a preferable option by a long shot, assuming that you too want to live. Instead, its best to just accept that life is like that- it could certain be made more humane, but the natural process that allows the existence of parasitic wasps whose larvae effectively brainwash the caterpillars they victimize to care for the very larvae that have eaten them from the inside out is hardly interested in avoiding suffering. That is (for better or worse) a purely human concern.
After all, other animals certainly don't seem to care if their prey suffers.
Things like "family" are human concepts, and if humans shouldn't be allowed to hunt animals then why is it fine for other animals to do so? Is their nonhuman status enough to exempt them from the moral quandaries that happen when we do it? What difference is there between a human that hunts for sport and a cat that toys with a mouse before killing it- would you condemn the latter as strongly as you do the former?
In a way, it's just the same speciesism with a new face. The only difference is that instead of exalting humans as the greatest of animals, it condemns them as the worst of animals.
I disagree. It doesn't matter for a much simpler reason- in matters of survival (and eating is always a matter of survival), morality is little more than a useless, tacked-on extra that only gets in the way. Given a choice between eating an animal (or even human flesh!) and starvation, even the most devoted vegans would find themselves hard-pressed to choose death over life.
As I've said, I've accepted that those animals had to suffer, and while I would be pleased to learn that more humane methods of killing them (as far as any kind of killing could be called "humane) existed and were implemented and believe that the meat industry as it exists under capitalism is inherently wasteful, I take a much simpler approach when it comes to the actual act of eating meat: I act no differently than any other predator would when I eat meat, and if I am guilty of being cruel to animals then so is every other species of carnivore and parasite on Earth. Remember, morality is a _human_ concept, and a notoriously arbitrary one at that matter.
You missed the point completely on several levels.
First, morality is for the most part an arbitrary construct- one made by humans and for humans. Not only does it make very little sense to apply it to nonhumans (which in any case seem to get along just fine without morality anyway), it ignores the fact that it's based on premises (e.g. that life is an inherently valuable thing, that killing is wrong, and that there is some objective measure of behavior outside of us) that are themselves very shaky and unprovable- the ideals that they're based on can still be beautiful, but when all is said and done they're ultimately just assertions of "I don't like this thing" and can only be backed up with some form of force. A "moral framework" is at best a subjective thing, capable of (usually) governing one's own behavior but becomes little more than a set of chains when applied to anyone else against their will- just ask anyone who's grown up in a fundamentalist household. I'm sure you mean well, but when you try to guilt-trip me about all those things the underlying message is "you're not like me, be like me or you're a bad person". And that's hardly an anarchist viewpoint.
Second, you're conflating the meat industry with the act of eating meat in itself. The former is just another facet of capitalism to be opposed whenever possible, but its brand of evil is hardly a unique one. Carnivory in itself is a personal diet choice, one that should be left up to the individual to decide. Same goes for all those other acts of cruelty, they're an inevitable part of a system that places a greater value on profit over anything else.
>I will say this, animal agriculture is bizarre and grotesque compared to what other species do to one another.
You clearly need to learn what parasites and parasitoids do to their hosts. For all of what you said, we don't mind-control other species to protect our young after said young have eaten them alive from the inside out like several species of wasps, and unlike most predators on Earth we have the courtesy to make sure our prey is dead _before_ we eat it. And I suggest you remember that the science of the human diet has gone through its fair share of upheavals in the past, so I'd keep quiet about what you don't know lest you end up looking foolish down the line and allow me to accept the risks of my own behavior rather than telling me that I can't be trusted to know what's best for me.
>Given the amount of pain forms of human intelligence causes and the self-eradication that is not addressed by those same forms of human intelligences, I find it ironic when a member of our species uses those same traits as a reason why we are superior to our non-human counterparts that lack them.
"Different" is not "superior", and human intelligence is far from perfect. But when all is said and done, I (like many others) have a much stronger attachment to my own species than to others. I am no friend of cruelty to animals, but all species are not created equal and I cannot be faulted for valuing my own species over another. Odds are that any other species in our place would act the same way.
Well, the way I see it pigs think it’s okay to eat pigs, so that is a pretty clear indication of consent.
But for real, our place in the ecological system can’t be hand waved by theory. It’s a material reality that our place in the ecological needs to be fulfilled, and as stewards we need to do so intelligently to ensure ecological sustainability.
Like, for instance, grey wolves regulate deer populations, but we killed off Grey wolves, so we need to rehabilitate the area. In the meantime we are ethically bound to cull the deer population to ensure the survival of the entire ecosystem. Whether the culled deer are eaten is entirely moot. Same with feral pigs.
My point being, we cannot enforce anarchism onto a system which doesn’t have sapient actors.
I think it’s more platforms trying to cover their own asses. Facebook is responsible for spreading genocide in Myanmar but they can say “our terms say you can’t advocate violence” and low and behold they are off the hook. It’s not if you can advocate violence but who you can advocate violence against. If you make direct threats at an individual that is clearly a violation of the tos but if someone says “kill all pedos” that’s fine because pedos are universally hated. But if you expand who falls under that definition you can advocate violence against anyone which is what the right wing is doing with trans people and drag shows. Also I would be cautious about anyone advocating direct acts of violence in any leftist space. The right would want nothing more than to point to anarchists and say “look how violent they are” meanwhile they are actively killing our comrades. At this stage optics matter, and we should focus on what we can build rather than what we can destroy. If all the left has to offer is Violence then our cause is doomed to fail. We have to offer safety, community, shelter, friendship and other resources or we will lose. not saying violence isn’t necessary in some cases but we need to offer more than that.
lol you are so full of shit. The hypocrisy and the irony in your responses is overwhelming.
Do the animals you consume get a choice to remain alive, as you get to support killing them? Or do your choices take hierarchical priority over their life since you benefit from a human supremacist society to begin with? Your "simple" stance is evidence of your privilege in being a human in an anthropocentric society.
"don't try and impose it on *me*"
Ha! Your choices are the very definition of *imposing*. You have a choice to financially support their death, or not. You make it clear that you financially (and socially) support their death just so you can satisfy your taste buds. Individual consumers like yourself impose your desire over their freedom and life every time you go out and buy their neatly-packaged mutilated body parts. Every time you comment on this forum supporting these consumer choices, you contribute to an anthropocentric worldview that imposes itself upon them.
Anthropocentrism is a moralistic mindset that allows humans to feel comfortable imposing their oppression upon non-human animals. Humans feel "right" in their authoritarian relationship to animals because it is normalized by group-think and hyper-glorified by capitalist, industrial society.
What I like to see amongst anarchists is logical consistency between their anti-authoritarian views and the relationships they have with other beings. Whenever veganism comes up, some anarchists turn cowardly and instead of admitting their own hypocrisy try to hide behind excuses that only expose their inconsistency more with every response.
There is no inherent "right" or "wrong" but at least have the guts to admit that either you are an anarcho-contradiction or you really have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to anarchy in practice.
In case that didn't make any sense, I made this for a fundraiser I'm doing to organize mutual aid efforts in Ukraine via a charity called Razom for Ukraine: Here's the IGG pre-follow link if you're interested https://igg.me/at/Durruti
Hey comrades! I'm the guy behind those Durruti comics and I made this for a fundraiser I'm doing to organize mutual aid efforts in Ukraine via a charity called "Razom for Ukraine": Here's the IGG pre-follow link if you're interested [https://igg.me/at/Durruti](https://igg.me/at/Durruti)
Solidarity!
I didn't say this though. There are definitely ways of killing/eating animals without exploitation, and there are also mutually beneficial relationships of humans with other animals.
>and it's entirely possible to raise animals for food without exploiting them
How? I find it very hard to believe. Maybe if you strictly raise them for you and your family? But even then, it is inevitable that you will start sharing animal products with your neighbours and soon enough, people from your entire community will begin demanding these products from you and you will start selling them. If killing a defenseless creature very early in its potential lifespan and then selling their body doesn't count as exploitation, I don't know what does.
>I don't see violence itself as "bad", but rather as a part of life (and nature, which we are also a part of)
Violence is part of death. We do not need to consume animal products to be healthy anymore. Just because we used to do it to survive doesn't mean we have a valid justification to keep doing it today. People had to do horrible things in the past in order to survive, but now we can easily avoid them. Buy some vitamin B12, some vitamin D, maybe some zinc and Omega 3 supplements and you're set.
>in the same way that it's possible to have non-human companions without exploiting them
We don't breed in big numbers, fatten up and slaughter young our companion animals to sell their cut up body parts.
>ie they don't live as long, and honestly often suffer less for it
Excuse me?
This is true - there is not any such thing as food production with truly zero animal killing. The most logical question, then, is whether *any* plant based food production method has a *lower* animal kill level than *every* meat based (perhaps excluding lab meats?) production method. For example, if (hypothetically) the meat based method kills 1 meat animal and 100 "incidental" animals, for a total of 101 killed, but the plant method kills 0 meat animals and 1000 "incidental" animals for a total of 1000 killed, the meat method actually is better; however, if both the meat method and plant method kill 1000 "incidental" animals the plant method is better and of course if the meat method kills more "incidental" animals (as they're with almost exactly 100% probability not exactly equal numbers) then also the plant method is better.
Here’s my list of the most underground anarchist bands:
Shit, Piss, Cum, Shoes on First, Grutt, Cheddler Groove LLC, Soulk, Chizzit, Guff Mango, Porndler, Çold Çut, Jizzy Eat Pearl, Glue Huffer, Strangle Teen, Recumbent Bike, Letter Holder, Gulf Coast Ghost, Liam Don’t Look, Jets over my Goodness, Lost Boys and their suspiciously older counterparts, Power is my Strength, Strength is my Power, Hover God, Long Time No She(no girls allowed core) Hefty Thin’s Toweltime Band, Forest Forest, Shorty Got Them Good Grades, Lindt, Ear Lover, Fips, Glign’t, Yosemite Slam, Chess Lord, Siberian Trans Orchestra, Jindler, George HUSSAIN Bush and Weak Sense of Self.
People who claim to have abandoned morality are lying to themselves.
Exploiting others isn't a personal choice, and if you valued free association you wouldn't advocate for imprisoning and killing animals when we could simply not.
Thoughts on spreading satirical and fake news about politicians?I've been thinking about this lately. My targets are far-right and shitty politicians. And, my objectives are to undermine or ruin their reputation.
Also, I have already done this in the past. However, I don't think it was successful because I made a lot of mistakes that got the attention of the police. I was too careless as I didn't care about my privacy, and so on. OpSec was also unknown to me before. Heck, my post got even broadcasted in a local TV network (I was laughing so hard while watching them report me to the police).
Perhaps, in the future, I'd improve my skills and methods to create shits about them. I'll try to learn how to write news, poems and such.
Does anyone have any advice on what to do if I become homeless?Don't worry I'm not going to become homeless yet but I worry that that's going to happen if my mom dies or something. I rely on her for extra money and I need that money to survive. I would also be kicked out of my apartment because she's a cosigner.
I don't have enough money to be on the lease by myself.
It's one of the things that makes me panic.
Does anyone just have any advice or if you have been homeless/unsheltered previously What was your experience like? Is it as bad as they say?
By the way I live in Arizona and the city I live in has made it so that homeless encampments are illegal now and can be reported on.
I am also part of a anarchist collective so I would be able to use some of the resources from that.
There's also a local food not bombs and they also do food share distribution too.
Anarchist/Communist hangouts and orgs in Irvine CAI'm looking to possibly move to Irvine, and I was curious if anyone knew of any good hangouts or orgs near the area.
Are there any Adelaide Anarchists on here?Hi all. Please let me know if there is a more appropriate place for this post.
I am trying to track down people practicing anarchism in Adelaide, Australia. I’m currently part of a mutual aid group but they are predominantly Marxists. I’m all for solidarity on the left but some of them grate on me for obvious ideological reasons. I’d love to organise a similar group with anarchist members.
If there are none of you on here then what do people think about leftist solidarity, particularly with Marxists?
Sincere thanks and solidarity to you all.
London Anarchist GroupsTrying to meet some people with similar thought to chat. Etc. I am new to this but extremely interested
Looking for fellow anarchists in Israel/PalestineLately, I've been doing a lot of reading and have realized that I am 100% an anarchist. I think I have finally found a political "ideology" that I can get behind and I would like to take direction actions to support it.
I've been looking around the web and Facebook trying to find like-minded people and so far have not found anything, so I'm writing here to see if anyone can possibly connect me to any group operating in Israel.
If you are Israeli and an Anarchist but don't know of any groups contact me anyway and maybe we can start something together.
Top Storei on LinkedIn: ChatGPT: Understanding the Capabilities and Limitations of a Language Model
we are anti israel/zionism: a discussionas a jew i stand for palestine. why don't i stand with my people in this instance? "isn't that antisemitism?", you might ask.
although widely claimed by jews here and abroad that denouncing zionism is antisemetic; which, doing so is in itself gaslighting. standing with a state is not siding with anyone. choosing to support a state regardless of what it's goals or intentions are, good or bad, is still choosing to stand against the people.
"so why don't you support israel exactly?"
because israel is a relatively new territory placed on millennia old Palestinian land, which is therefore colonialism. they take from the Palestinian people and in doing so empower/enrich themselves.
countless videos show israeli officials laughing as they take land from families who have owned it for generations.
"but both sides are wrong"
israel is well-funded. they are funded to maintain domination to ensure the will of america is carried out. one of the reasons for this ensures capitalist domination in the area.
having said that, Palestine has little in terms of resources to wage a war with the interlopers. Palestinians aren't allowed to be armed, among other things... (right to travel, right to freedom of speech, etc)
ironically israel took the idea of these ghettos from nazi germany.
with that, the IDF (israeli "Defense" Force) is the armed arm of the israeli state. anti-Palestinian propaganda runs so thick in the country that new conscripts (serving in the IDF as an israeli is mandatory. to rebel is to commit a crime punishable by jail) are not only hateful to the Palestinians but many can't wait for their first kill.
IDF shoots at unarmed Palestinians and hamas responds. this tit for tat has been going on for decades but hamas still doesn't have the resources to wage a full frontal war against the interlopers.
to summarize, i stand with Palestine because palestine is fighting for their homes and lives against a well-funded aggressor. the Palestinian struggle is the struggle of the people against colonialism. solidarity with Palestine.
The Fight Against Atlanta’s Democrat-Backed “Cop City”
dems learned literally nothing from blm. theyre plain stupid
I would class traditional Democratic Party voters as liberals in the USA sense. The policies that the Democratic Party supports in the USA would be fiscally conservative or socially centrist in Canada, and I expect that they would be categorized similarly in Europe.
A big part of the difficulty with this whole analysis is that the word liberal has so many uses. It could refer to:
- Someone who supports centralized parliamentary democracy & capitalism as opposed to monarchy or anything leftist, which is the original use of the term, or
- Someone who is a Democrat in the USA (in the context of a right-wing person using it as a slur, ie “Those damn liberals want to let anybody into the ladies washroom now!”), or
- A member of a party called the Liberal party
Personally, I just lump them all into the same category as a bunch of people who are in favour of exploitation and genocide. The finer distinctions don’t matter to me, as those distinctions are just them arguing amongst themselves about how hard they can stomp on the people below them and still feel morally OK about it.
All of you pretending an anarchist presence shouldn’t exist within the vicinity of socialists is fucking wild. Lol. You have nothing, and you’re going to look at that nothing and offer yourself less. That’s so wild. Sosososososo wild. Are you afraid they’ll take your mind? Lol, how weak is this “anarchist” identity so prevalent here? Do you want isolationism and alienation? Keep it the fuck up.
If you live in the Boston area and you're an anarchist, you should be at this fucking thing, cutting a fucking rug and having a good time, making friends and connections because you’re an excellent damned human. You cannot continue on this way; you can fucking NOT hide your bullshitting ass light under a bushel if you have any hope of creating something that isn’t the soviets times two but gayer.
Explain to me how avoiding society will do anything for fucking anyone? That said, FnB the streets and talk to your neighbors. If you aren’t feeding someone and also telling people to run/hide from the scary socialists you're saying a lot about your place in any movement.
And they betray you at what point in the jog? Lol get a grip.
It's no wonder you feel that way. before it was released to avoid being attacked by the Rightists. The documentary team [therefore named](https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ゆきゆきて、神軍#配給) the film the same as the movie of the right wing. And parts of the original film were confiscated by the police.
The anarchist Okuzaki is the protagonist. (At that time being imprisoned again due to his direct actions) said the movie was very boring.
As an anarchic sub, I'm confident there's noone here acting as some kind of authority censoring opinions so Il say that this whole "trans genocide" stuff is ridicolously hyperbolical and, in practice, totally fake.
AFAIK, that guy talked about eradicating an ideology, not people.
For the rest, requiring that children aren't exposed to drag shows, but wait until they are adult for that is perfectly reasonable.
The same goes for blockers or surgical mutilations that ruin forever their sexual life and health.
It's not a "genocide" to prohibit these things but simple common sense: you should really stop abusing words in this manner otherwise you become as the boy crying "wolf", i.e. nobody will take seriously what you say any more
This video looks like some outside agitator bs to me which is why I brought it up.
I don’t need every event to be peaceful- I am 100% here for fucking up cops shit, but not if it’s white people burning down shit with impunity leaving POC holding the bag without consent.
If using POC like we are disposable is an acceptable MO to you, that is deeply problematic and incredibly counterinsurgent.
White boys burning down shit under the cover of POC revolution is exactly some proud boys cop shit.
Proud boys caping as black bloc and escalating to violence is a problem.
Black bloc coming thru and escalating to violence without strategic consent from organizers is a problem.
The violence isn’t the problem. Using marginalized communities as cover *without consent* is.
> write letters to anti-imperialist political prisoners
Lmao! Larp harder.
Regular mass sabotage like this is exactly what's needed. Sitting around waiting to get kicked by the pigs will not do anything.
Reoccupying Weelaunee Forest
Anarchist/Communist hangouts and orgs in Irvine CAI'm looking to possibly move to Irvine, and I was curious if anyone knew of any good hangouts or orgs near the area.
"When we reached the police, they scattered."
Paul Signac appreciation post
Stupid bloody cunt you are aren't you
The Nation-State Should Become Obsolete: New Video by "The Elements of Mutual Aid" Docuseries
The concern in Utah that a lot of costal leftists don’t consider is the Mormon church. We’re collectively coming up against the wall of climate crisis and capitalist collapse. This means the revolution or civil conflict will likely spark in the US within our lives. I’d say 20 years tops but that’s generous. This means a number of things, for leftist organizations it means giving up our sectarianism and working together. I know people here don’t like Marxist-Leninists but your all gonna have to get over that.(same goes for MLs of course) but when this all comes to a head, whenever it is and wherever it happens the Mormon church has a literal private army and Utah would immediately fall under their jurisdiction. Now for the comrade I’m replying the fact of the matters that you’ll probably be ok (or at least alive) until that time. However Utah will become very bad very quickly. Because of this fact I would advise getting out of the state within the decade however for right now don’t let yourself spiral. Panic will only make things worse, if inactivity makes you uncomfortable learn first aid, work out, and if you can learn how to shoot. If you can’t do that don’t despair because there are many comrades in Colorado right next door and odds are you’ll have their support. Otherwise remember that you are loved by many people who you have never even met or spoken to. Where ever you are there is a comrade near by be they anarchists, socialists, or Marxist Leninists.
Oh and what would you suggest be done with the tons of byproduct that humans cannot digest?
I think you missed the part of my statement that says "I dont think vegans realize that everyone going vegan doesn't mean the animals are saved." You went on a whole contrived diatribe about what I was saying could possibly mean and making all sorts of wild claims about what my line of reasoning is. Also you seem to put on me that I think that factory farming animals is okay. I'm nowhere saying that factory farming is good. Nor am I saying nor implying that every sperm is sacred. Part of my point is they dont care about animal welfare because if they did they'd care more about abolishing factory farming animals than killing hundreds of thousands of animals by trying to back capitalists into a corner by liberal boycotts. They dont want to save the animals. They want to feel good about themselves. Their motto certainly isn't "save the animals" but it could be "extinction of species is the only ethical consumption under capitalism." And it'll never be "organize the meat workers to take control of production so we can save the animals."
And yes part of my point is that we are responsible for these species. I dont think throwing all of them away because they are no longer eaten would be a good thing. It, as you said, makes us seem irresponsible and incapable. You cannot fix dead nor extinct. I'd much rather we craft ecosystems for these animals than send them all to oblivion or to be abandoned like the pigeon. Pigeons are domesticated animals. We turned them into rats with wings because no one eats them they've all been released and gone feral and eat trash that is bad for them. These are not healthy birds.
Also I think people forget that we are part of our biosphere. Things are still evolving. We are part of the cycle of life and death. Which can be more brutal than us. Being eaten alive is an awful way to go and it happens.
Also how in the fuck did you find this one comment out of the literal thousands here? And after how long? Why?
Or murdering an anarchist
I'm curious what your opinion is if a large portion of people in Ukraine didn't want to be in NATO? I'm also curious if anyone has asked what the people in Ukraine want since this gallop pole was taken?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/03/20/one-year-after-russia-annexed-crimea-locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/?sh=cb2527e510db
I know Zelenskyy said the whole of Ukraine will remain intact but has anyone asked the people? Most of what I've seen has been people outside of Ukraine telling them what's best for them, or their leaders deciding for them. Hypothetically would splitting Ukraine be acceptable to the people of Ukraine? Considering that half of the people in Ukraine want to be on the side of Russia I don't see why this couldn't be accepted.
Sidenote and my opinion: This whole thing is another example of how boarders cause war and death. Then people that don't want to get involved, and just want to live in peace, get wrapped up in a blanket for the game of thrones that only benefit the rulers, not the people. A blanket forcefully given to them the moment they are born and never asked if they want it, told they are a part of it regardless if they want it or not
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Alfredo Cospito's letter from prisonSome days ago Cospito, the Italian anarchist placed into 41bis regime and in an ongoing Hunger Strike (see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Cospito for some basic info), published the following letter. I tried to translate it for non-Italian speakers:
My fight against 41bis is an individual fight as anarchist, i don't blackmail [anyone] nor get blackmailed [by anyone]. I simply cannot live in an inhuman regime like the 41bis, in which I can't freely read what I want, books, newspapers, anarchist periodicals, scientific and art and literature and history magazines. My only possibility to get out is to deny my anarchy and sell somebody to put in my place. A regime in which I can't have any human contact, I can't see or caress a blade of grass, or hug a loved person. A regime in which your parents' pictures get seized. Buried alive in a grave, in a place of death. I'll keep on with my fight to the extreme consequences, not for a "blackmail" but because this isn't life. If the aim of the Italian State is to make me "disassociate" from the actions of anarchists [ed: anarchici/e; C. always refers to both genders] outside [of jail], know that I don't undergo any blackmail, as a good anarchist I believe everyone is responsible of one's own actions, and as member of the anti-organizer current ["corrente anti-organizzatrice"] I've never "associated" myself with anyone and therefore I can't "disassociate" from anyone, Affinity is something else. A coherent anarchist doesn't take distance from other anarchists just for oportunism and convenience. I've always and proudly claimed my own actions (in tribunals/courts as well, and that's why I'm here) and I've never criticized those of other comrades, let alone [doing it] in the situation in which I am now. The biggest insult for an anarchist is that of being accused to give or receive orders. When I was in the high-surveillance regime I was censored anyway, and I've never sent any "pizzini" [Sicilian word for small pieces of paper; in Mafia's context they contain orders from bosses in jail] but only newspaper articles and anarchist magazines. And above all, I was free to receive books and magazines and to write books, to read whatever I wanted, in short I was allowed to evolve, to live.
[Page 2]
Today I'm ready to die to let the world know what 41bis really is, that 750 people undergo it without whispering a single word, [as they are] continuously monsterified/monstered by mass media. Now it's my turn, first you monsterified me as the bloodthirsty terrorist, then you sanctified me as the martyr anarchist who sacrifices for others, now [you] monsterified [me] again as leader of the terrible ?? [unreadable]. When it will all be over, I have no doubts that [I will be] sanctified to the martyrdom altars. No thanks, I don't play your dirty political games.
In reality, the Italian State's true problem/concern is that nobody comes to know of all the human rights violated in this regime, the 41bis, in the name of a "security" to which everything is sacrificed. Ah! You had to think of it before putting an anarchist in this jammer; I don't know the real motivations behind it, the reason for someone to use me as a "poisoned meatball" [ed: like the ones thieves throw to kill people's dogs] in this regime. It was quite hard to not foresee what my reactions would have been in front of this "non-life". A State, the Italian one, [is] a worthy representative of the hypocrisy of a West which gives continuous lessons of "morality" to the rest of the world. The 41bis gave repressive lessons/tutorials well received by "democratic" States such as the Turkish (Kurdish comrades know something [of this]) and the Polish ones.
I am convinced that my death will put a setback [/hiccup] to this regime and that the 750 people who have undergone it for decades can [/will be able to] live a life worthy of being lived, whatever [/no matter what] they did. I love life, I am a happy man, I wouldn't change my life with that of someone else. And exactly since I love it, I can't accept this non-life without hope.
Thanks comrades [compagni/e] for your love
Always for Anarchy
Never bent
Alfredo Cospito
Anti-Authoritarian Mutual Aid DocumentaryHey all!
My partner and I are in production of a **4-part documentary series,** [The Elements of Mutual Aid](https://theelementsofmutualaid.com/), that uses the elements - fire, earth, water, and air - to explore **the origins, structures, healing ways, and logistics of mutual aid-based organizing.** Check us out on [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/the.elements.of.mutual.aid/), [Peertube](https://kolektiva.media/c/elementsofmutualaid/videos), and [Mastodon](https://kolektiva.social/@Elememts_of_MA) if this peaks your interest. Solidarity!
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Anti-Authoritarian Mutual Aid DocumentaryHey all!
My partner and I are in production of a **4-part documentary series,** [The Elements of Mutual Aid](https://theelementsofmutualaid.com/), that uses the elements - fire, earth, water, and air - to explore **the origins, structures, healing ways, and logistics of mutual aid-based organizing.** Check us out on [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/the.elements.of.mutual.aid/), [Peertube](https://kolektiva.media/c/elementsofmutualaid/videos), and [Mastodon](https://kolektiva.social/@Elememts_of_MA) if this peaks your interest. Solidarity!
Phone and Laptop Seizures at Airports and Borders - Privacy Travel Guide
it's Bandcamp Friday and I keep %100 of album sales and can keep buying my bus pass every month. 🥹
Does anyone got any good books on Christian Anarchism?Hey everyone! I wanted to reach out to this subreddit, as I was interested in learning more about socialism or leftism and seeing as that I am a Christian, I was curious if there were any good books to read more on Christian Anarchism (if they exist)?
Thanks in advance!
When cooking with anarchists, animals must be off the menuWhen we see a person kicking a dog, we all have the intuition that the dog kicking shouldn’t be done. And yet the treatment of the vast majority of animals that we eat—99% of which come from factory farms—is far crueler than a person kicking a dog. It’s far crueler than a person who beats a dog to death with a shovel—at least the dog’s suffering is short, while the animals we abuse have their suffering drawn out across weeks.
Imagine someone was paying for pigs to be put in gas chambers because they liked the way their squeals sounded. We would be outraged—animal abuse isn’t worth enjoying particular sounds. What if they were gassed because we liked the way they smelled? A cry of outrage would erupt throughout the public—surely a pleasant smell wouldn’t be worth horrific torture. What about one who enjoyed the way that tortured corpses of animals looked? We’d be outraged—looks don’t justify horrific torture. How about taste. We’d be similarly outraged.
We pay for animals to be brutally tortured and killed because we like the taste of their tortured corpse. Surely there’s no morally relevant difference between a pleasant smell and a pleasant taste.
Because you can’t pet fish, dummy!
Because you can’t pet fish, dummy!
Lützerath bleibt!
Solidarity to those affected by this preventable tragedy. OC
I would feel bad for pirating stuff : what to do ?Hello. I'm totally against intellectual property and one good way to fight it is piracy. Best thing would be to pirate big games for example and not indie games. But I'm already feeling it's not right. What can I do ? Thanks.
Is Burlington, VT a good place to move to?I'm planning on moving at the end of 2024 or midlle of 2025 after finishing my master's degree and saving up some money. I'm currently in Greensboro, NC but trying to move near a good source of freshwater for when global warming gets even worse. I don't know if my politics and morals have a name but I definitely relate the most with anarchism/anarchists. Would you consider Burlington a good place for an anarchist to move and have a social life?
"No to US/USSR imperialism. Mayday! Anarchist Contingent" (1988)
The War on Disease: a Discussion
Diego Rivera
Marxists Betray AnarchistsI put together this list some time ago as a response to a question about marxists betraying anarchists. somehow i'm not aware of a succinct compilation of this phenomenon. Hopefully comrades will add things i've missed, criticize my sources, or do better summaries than i've produced here, etc. ideally this can be a resource going forward for us. Marxists need to acknowledge the mistakes of their predecessors if they want us to cooperate.
**russia**: [the black raids](https://katesharpleylibrary.net/brv25k). [a timeline here](https://crimethinc.com/2017/11/07/one-hundred-years-after-the-bolshevik-counterrevolution-a-timeline-charting-the-destruction-of-popular-movements). longer discussion [here](https://anarchistfaq.org/afaq/append4.html), particularly of the kronstadt rebellion and the betrayal of the ukranian anarchists. the bolsheviks also betrayed [the Left SRs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_SR_uprising).
**germany**: the ruling democratic socialists put down [spartacist uprising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919) of 1919. (libertarian marxist, not anarchist). There were several [socialist republics](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/andrew-flood-the-german-revolution) formed at the same time, notably in [Bavaria](https://files.libcom.org/files/Allpower%20to%20the%20councils.pdf), which were also put down. anarchists and libertarian communists were repressed later in [47](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jean-barrue-anarchism-in-east-germany-1945-1955)\-the uprising of [53](https://www.katesharpleylibrary.net/c867pz) in east germany.
**shinmin**: the marxists [literally assassinated](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/min-shinmin-prefecture-summary) the anarchist leaders
**china**: [Chinese Anarchism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_China#Anarchism_in_the_Xinhai_Revolution) is [fascinating](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utG8JQBBdbA). one of the few (only?) instances of an anarchist repression of marxists (before the KMT went fascist), they were eventually just out-organized. later, in the cultural revolution, people actually believed mao, and [there was a swift move to crush the anarchists of the shanghai commune and elsewhere](http://62.182.86.140/main/2816000/75780a8cce950e7d62b4c4074453bd6a/Simon%20Leys%20-%20The%20Chairman%27s%20new%20clothes%20_%20Mao%20and%20the%20cultural%20revolution-Allison%20%26%20Busby_%20Schocken%20Books%20%5Bdistributor%5D%20%281981%29.pdf). the current repression of the CPC is obvious.
**spain**: i'm somehow not aware of a snappy timeline of marxist betrayal of the anarchists in spain. basically the ussr contributed resources to the revolution, but on strict conditions which were against the anarchists. they \*did\* organize the international brigades, but they constantly spread lies about the anarchists and undermined them at every turn, and finally betrayed them during the [may days of 37](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Days). their demand that the war be prioritized over the revolution i.e. "the revolution can wait" (where have we heard this before?) disrupted the success of the anarchist militias and navy, they literally attacked and disbanded CNT aligned collectives in the countryside. much is written about it [here](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/diego-abad-de-santillan-why-we-lost-the-war) and a shorter, more broad summary [here](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/noam-chomsky-objectivity-and-liberal-scholarship).
**hungary**: the reds abandoned them after 1919 to the first fascist dictatorship, then when they invaded in 44, [they rubberstamped horthy](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/andy-anderson-hungary-56). colin ward writes about hungary 56 and czech 68 [here](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/colin-ward-anarchy-in-action), but there is a lot more on libcom.
**greece**: the greek communist party (KKE) murdered [hundreds](https://libcom.org/article/massacre-internationalist-communists-greece-december-1944) of anarchists and internationalist communists in 1944
**vietnam**: ho chi minh [massacred](https://libcom.org/article/moscow-trial-ho-chi-minhs-guerrilla-movement-ngo-van-xuyet) the libertarian socialist movement after the victory of 45
**cuba**: actual assassinations were rare, but exiles were enforced [and repression](https://archive.iww.org/history/library/Dolgoff/cuba/10/) was explicit. che personally [oversaw](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mlb-the-myth-of-che-guevara) the ejection of anarchists from prominent positions in the unions, which they were [very popular](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/frank-fernandez-cuban-anarchism-the-history-of-a-movement) in.
**france**: anarchists and libertarian marxists generated [a strike wave](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-porter-french-anarchists-and-the-continuing-power-of-may-1968) that led to 2/3 of all firms in france being occupied. the marxist led CGT union eventually joined in after criticizing it and authorized millions of their members to strike. then they [called off the revolution](https://libcom.org/article/situationists-and-may-1968-miguel-amoros) after the president fled. the french communist party only suggested new elections (lol).
anarchists pretty much disappeared as a force of consequence from the global stage after the international conference in 68. our story picks back up in greek riots of december 08 and the anti-austerity movement, where the KKE [attacked](https://raddle.me/f/Anarchism/132526/communists-in-greece-work-with-the-police-to-block) anarchists and anarchist squats with the police, defended the parliament at syntagma square from the anarchists with the police, and generally disrupted any popular revolutionary upsurge.
they denounced the general strike and catalan independence movement in 2017 as "bourgeois nationalism".
"anti-imperialist" marxists have reliably supported anarchist-killing dictators in the revolutionary foment of syria, and currently in russia's attempted genocide of ukraine. they've done all they can to disrupt international solidarity around rojava, tho a section of the anarchist movement also actively discredits the ypg. many marxists actively vilified anarchists during the 2020 summer movement, generating talking points used by liberals to co-opt and marginalize militancy.
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i wonder what the marxists were doing during the argentinian revolution of 02-05., or if there was anything notable in the japanese anarchist movement, or during the early 20th century revolutionary wave in mexico. i also have a notable blind spot to the global south in general.
With gangs reportedly controlling large territories in Haiti, what’s the anarchist view on how or whether to help?I remember the hellscape that was [Tonton Macoute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonton_Macoute) who committed some of the worst atrocities I can think of in modern times during their control of Haiti. That ended when the US and UN ultimately intervened after FRAPH (a later off-shoot of TM) tried and succeeded in overthrowing Aristide. I guess my question is what stance to do anarchists take on what US foreign policy should be toward Haiti in this situation? They’ve cause so much instability in Haiti like a lot of LatAm, especially through debt instruments and tolerance of dictatorships, but if the Haitian people don’t have the means to stop these gangs themselves, what should the US do?
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Friday 3th of March I am leaving my life behind to travel Europe with just over a 1200 euros in cash in my boot. GIVE ME TIPS TO MAKE MONEY WHILE TRAVELLING PLS!I'm asking here because every other community wouldn't get why I'm doing it.
Does anyone know if Workaway is a legit program?
I also have one time found undocumented work as a waiter while visiting the Carribean for a month and a half, just by going to ask them if they could use me. I'm hoping to repeat this on my upcoming travels.
I also am bringing my (slightly cracked) acoustic guitar and some charcoal pencils to do portraits (im reallly good at drawing faces) for money.
PLEASE JUST GIVE ANY TIPS YOU HAVE
and if you just wanna ask questions about how/why that's fine too, talking about it makes me less nervous about it
"KEEP SABOTAGING SHIT:" Relating to the words of Winston “Boogie” Smith - Killed by Minneapolis Police
Tortuguita said if police razed the camp, arrested and killed any who resisted — that days later the forest would be full of defenders. — The cops did it. Now it's "days later" — This is for the climate, for abolition, for the right to protest. For Tortuguita. — Atlanta. March 4-11. Bring a tent.
And you're a self-righteous prick who thinks they can declare people oppressors just because they won't be in their club.
Even your fellow green anarchists think your kind is full of shit.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-beyond-veganism
>Veganism is a dogmatic and ignorant ideology that keeps us from communing with all life by creating a false dichotomy between the mutilation of plants, insects, and wild areas and the similar mutilation of our animal brothers and sisters. Noble it is to not consume the flesh of beings who have been raised as slaves, but how noble to leave plants out of our conception of living beings? How noble is it to consume “organic” crops, still planted in linear rows, fertilized and nourished by the shit of enslaved creatures? This shit contains antibiotics, and any other poisons injected into the shit’s producer by its proclaimed owner. Nourishment by these means still contains linear conditioning, from the ground up. Healthy diets may or may not contain meat; this is not the question being posed. What to include in one’s diet is a personal, bioregional decision which must always be respectful toward all life and mineral that is to be consumed.
And you're a self-righteous prick who thinks they can declare people oppressors just because they won't be in their club.
Even your fellow green anarchists think your kind is full of shit.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-beyond-veganism
>Veganism is a dogmatic and ignorant ideology that keeps us from communing with all life by creating a false dichotomy between the mutilation of plants, insects, and wild areas and the similar mutilation of our animal brothers and sisters. Noble it is to not consume the flesh of beings who have been raised as slaves, but how noble to leave plants out of our conception of living beings? How noble is it to consume “organic” crops, still planted in linear rows, fertilized and nourished by the shit of enslaved creatures? This shit contains antibiotics, and any other poisons injected into the shit’s producer by its proclaimed owner. Nourishment by these means still contains linear conditioning, from the ground up. Healthy diets may or may not contain meat; this is not the question being posed. What to include in one’s diet is a personal, bioregional decision which must always be respectful toward all life and mineral that is to be consumed.
And you're a self-righteous prick who thinks they can declare people oppressors just because they won't be in their club.
Even your fellow green anarchists think your kind is full of shit.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-beyond-veganism
>Veganism is a dogmatic and ignorant ideology that keeps us from communing with all life by creating a false dichotomy between the mutilation of plants, insects, and wild areas and the similar mutilation of our animal brothers and sisters. Noble it is to not consume the flesh of beings who have been raised as slaves, but how noble to leave plants out of our conception of living beings? How noble is it to consume “organic” crops, still planted in linear rows, fertilized and nourished by the shit of enslaved creatures? This shit contains antibiotics, and any other poisons injected into the shit’s producer by its proclaimed owner. Nourishment by these means still contains linear conditioning, from the ground up. Healthy diets may or may not contain meat; this is not the question being posed. What to include in one’s diet is a personal, bioregional decision which must always be respectful toward all life and mineral that is to be consumed.
~~Communism identifies the need for a transitional form of government where power is redistributed back to workers. Anarchists when they see the word state flip out, but who owns the state is what matters here.~~
~~I'm a ML but I lurk here because I believe in mutual aid, but this is where anarchists and ML disagree.~~
~~State capitalism is what we have now, capitalists are in league with the state who work at the behest of capital.~~
~~Marx talked about the gradual dissolve of the state, but there is a state for much of the formation period to achieve communism.~~
~~The power balance however is more favorable to workers and rids exploitation and reduces inequality.~~
~~I understand this is an unpopular opinion here but much of the literature about communism shares the belief in a dictatorship of the proletariat. Dictatorship as in who dictates what is done. Not fear mongering evil DPRK dictator, just the literal definition of what it means to dictate and what that person or group of people would be. Dictatorship. Commonly misunderstood term just like liberals think Anarchy means killing everyone and lawlessness and crime.~~
It is simply enough to recognize that animal consumption is just force and that humans, like other animals, aren't in a hierarchical relationship just because they kill other animals. Even industrial agriculture, at least if we focus on the relations between humans and animals, isn't hierarchical (but the way industrial agriculture is structured is).
While all of those things are feasible for someone with capital (one money) people who are impoverished cannot 1) buy land 2) buy materials needed to farm 3) have the labor power to farm or even the education to do so
At some point 3500 BC or so you could just wander into the forest and a nice spot and just be like “yup I’m gonna build a village here” these days, the capitalist & collaborators have divided up & lay claimed to every last bit of *anything* which is valuable to the ecology of the planet; including and but limited to humans of all varieties.
Those days expropriatin’ be easy, maybe a lion or bear you would have to battle against for territory, or a another small band of people who you could not come to an agreement with.
These days a whole ass swat team will sh**t anyone down if you occupy space owned by some large grossing GDP Company
Based on a post on their Telegram channel, The San Francisco Bay Area Local of the Black Rose is accepting funds through Venmo, which they say will be forwarded to the Swiss address.
It's the most recent message on the channel: https://t.me/bayareabrrn
Hey u/shevekdeanarres, just so you know Reddit automatically deletes telegram links and I can't actually reinstate it. Feel free to repeat your comment with the link spelled out or something.
I don’t understand how you could see this as something anarchists could have a problem with. In lack of a commune you can rely the state to cover some needs just like how even if you don’t believe in money you can still use it in lieu of a better relationship with labor and property than money. Lol. Please don’t feel guilty about this.
Also if for whatever reason you are concerned for the state, you spending money assists growth of the market to drive production upward for your consumption which pays workers and fuels growth which expands business and you’ll eventually join the forces of the wage laborers in producing/service providing too. And then you’ll be paying taxes later on when you make enough that doesn’t stunt your consumption/demand for products and services. So it’s positively cyclical. Like, it’s a really really good thing for the market. Young people in debt or not consuming when they’d like to drastically puts age caps demand, and thus production and growth. Like we easily can produce/service more than we need but without demand/consumption the market can’t justify its own growth because capitalism is poorly thought out.
Also the government funding probably isn’t proportional to funding use, like they probably don’t refund the tax payers for unspent funds. So please spend or maybe it will be embezzled or thrown away so that their funding isn’t reduced next year. Governments agencies are often motivated to exceed their budget to justify themselves. This is a good agency, please spend.
I like the fact the congestion zone, ULEZ and LTNs are good for the environment.
You'd have to destroy every single camera to avoid the penalty and I doubt you'd manage that. Even if you did somehow find them all you'd have no way of knowing which had been fixed, and when, so would probably still end up getting fined at some point. Some LTN areas made 2 million in fines in 3 months, so they're going to have someone on those repairs straight away.
>I’m not the type of person for mindless destruction but I can’t see any negatives (apart from me being caught obviously) so can anyone give me some tips like climbing poles, cutting wires etc something with maximum destruction general middle finger to big brother
You *are* the type for mindless destruction under the right circumstances. Which are when you feel it's justified. People can excuse all kinds of reckless shit this way.
I got aware of this condition 5 years after trying veganism. It's not a mysterious condition either, I don't produce enough of certain enzymes that deal with breaking down a number of types of sugars, like fructose, lactose! and fructate but also those found in legumes. My father died young of kidney cancer and my grandfather was wheelchair bound for most of his life, both most likely due the same genetic defect. But it's not about me all of a sudden because that would make you an obvious ableist doesn't it? The fact that you concentrate on the supposed "mysterious medical excuse" is because the underlying notion of many vegans is that all reasons not to be vegan stem from egocentric attachment to eating animal products and cannot be the result of an moral or philosophical standpoint because in their mind their is none. But I was raised vegetarian and I don't even like meat, and plantbased cheeses and such are pretty good these days tastewise although seriously lacking in proteins or made with additives like sugar I have to avoid. I do however hate being policed by people on arbitrary set lines between animals and ecosystems, even subconsciously buy the notion that "the left doesn't have ethical omnivores, only temporarily embarrassed vegans".
I have known vegans, lived with vegans, cooked for vegans for a long long time by now. The fact that I have known many who have damaged their health or where quite insufferable is indeed anecdotal. That's because I'm stating my personal reasons not to go vegan. If this is a scientific debate, fine, I'll take couple of days of and go through all of the sources and see what comes up. But at this moment I see no reason for that. I already strive to be as much as what you call vegan, but I'll never call myself "a vegan". Because I'll make assessments on individual cases. If there's a overabundance of wool in my area I choose wool over plastic fleece. If getting plant based milk means driving 30 miles to town I'd rather have a goat, unless my neighbour is driving anyway than I rather have the plantbased milk. Etc. etc.
The core of my argument is not that I'm a poor soul who has to eat meat. It's that veganism is putting to much focus on individual animals and direct consumption and fails to account for systemic violence and ecocide as equally or more important factors. And that rather than promoting a lifestyle that is taking in account the full scope of ways to minimize harm as all equally valid, it creates a hierarchy of activism. My theory is that this is because existence is chaotic, and clear although arbitrary rules to live by are appealing to some people. This is why I call it a bourgeois pseudo religion - an offspring of puritanical abstinence morality. It's a form of moral absolutism that rates people by how "pure" the are just like religious people all over the world try to one up each other in piousness. Leather shoes from the thriftshop? That's minus points for you! To live is to kill (and not in the fashy glorifying sense, but in a sense of dred; I take up space and resources whether I want to or not) - but we can choose to minimize our harm. But to deny that fact - that living is killing - your setting yourself up for failure and you need a powerful antidote: veganism. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
In my experience, the people who like to make edgy/nihilistic jokes about how 'leftists can't work together' are the ones who are the very *least* serious about actual revolution.
Any literature or writing against Christian Anarchism/Anarcho-Christians?Simply looking for pieces covering why Christian Anarchism/Anarcho-Christianity is bad, wrong, a contradiction in terms, impossible, etc.
There Are Three Anarchist JurisdictionsThe three anarchist jurisdictions that exist in the U.S are New York City; Portland, Oregon and Seattle, Washington. These three places could be places where anarchists could start gathering and form either anarchist communist or anarchist syndicalism society's. This could be our chance comrades to start proving to the government that it can be done.
Here are my thoughts, while I don't live close to either of these places I'm still having hope that something like this could take place. These things very well could be and I'd love to here updates on it if it is. My thoughts are anarchists moving in and setting up these systems.
What I recommend:
- Gardens everywhere, lots of lots of food availability
- officials get rotated for taking votes and helping set the plans every 2 to 3 months or like so just like the Zapatistas do.
- free education focused on what matters such as gardening/agriculture, veterinary practice, electricity/electronics/solar, mechanics, construction, math, reading, and writing. As well as additional education that can be pursued such as job training like food distribution for example.
- rules that keep violence down and security like watchmen state.
These are Just my thoughts and I like to be open and hear others. Has anyone started something like this in these Anarchist Jurisdictions? Also if anyone reading this likes this idea and does pursue something like this please be careful in doing so as these areas may also be dangerous and may be why this hasn't been started yet.
Here's a video of Seattle's autonomous zone
https://youtu.be/ay5h5dq14mM
Do the world a favour and punch your nearest NAZI
Unfortunately, your post has been removed, as r/Anarchism is not a meta discussion forum regarding other subreddits, their moderation policies, or users' bans from those subreddits.
You're not in trouble or anything! The issue is just that this kind of content can often overtake a subreddit and drown out actual conversations about anarchism, itself. A lot of these kinds of posts are also sometimes viewed by Reddit's admins as calls to brigade the subreddit in question, and that can put r/Anarchism in danger of being quarantined or banned.
Not particularly inclusive for a supposedly leftist sub, is it?
Not particularly inclusive for a supposedly leftist sub, is it?
If someone floated hobby balloons plainly labeled "The Ohio Situation", "Aging Tar Sands Pipeline", "Useless EPA", "Impoverished Elderly and Disabled", or maybe just "Homelessness and Poverty" in general, and government had to shoot the balloons down with missiles, would that push the issues?People are saying that government shoots anything flown in the air space down now, so we could use balloons to raise awareness of the things that it is not handling while focusing on balloons.
Anarchists/Antifascists based in Red States?I've been living in Oregon for as long as I can remember, and I have gotten myself beaten several times, and arrested once for fighting the State and its systemic inequalities. Today though, my homestate has neen cracking down on gun ownership a little too much, and I'm considering moving house for work anyway.
The best opportunities I can find, however, are unfortunately based in Texas, North Carolina, Virginia, and Alaska. These are some of the places that I personally designated as _"Kill Box States"_ and I seriously detest having to move to any one of them.
Does anybody know of any Leftist safe zones or at least know of any groups/movements in any of these States? If so, I'd really appreciate the help of getting to stay close to them and possibly NOT get attacked by any Righties.
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No particular reason (hehehe)​
No particular reason (hehehe)​
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Non-vegan leftists, why not?EDIT 2: Recommend watching the documentary Dominion (2018)
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>*Anarchism is a social movement that seeks liberation from oppressive systems of control including but not limited to the state, capitalism, racism, sexism, ableism, speciesism, and religion. Anarchists advocate a self-managed, classless, stateless society without borders, bosses, or rulers where everyone takes collective responsibility for the health and prosperity of themselves and the environment.* \-- [**r/Anarchism**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/) **subreddit description**
People in developed countries that buy their animal products from supermarkets and grocery stores - What is your excuse for supporting injustice on your plate? Why are you a speciesist??
Reasons to be vegan -
* Farm animals are one of the most oppressed groups on this planet. They are subjected to an endless amount abuse and exploitation. We confine them, rape them, and murder them. Such inhumane acts can not be justified solely because they are not human.
* [Animal agriculture creates more than 15% (cows alone) of greenhouse emissions.](https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable)
* Animal farming is way more resource and energy intensive. [100 times as much land to produce a kilocalorie of beef or lamb versus plant-based alternatives\]](https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets). We are gambling the world's future by choosing to oppress animals.
* Factory farms are breeding ground for diseases. Very self explanatory, thousands of animals situated in close proximity allows disease spread. Think Mad cow and the many bird flus. [Diseases and bacterium are developing antibiotic resistance](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017557/) due to factory farms using antibiotics in order to compensate for the horrendous living conditions that make animals sick
* Human rights violations is highly prevalent in animal agriculture. Very common for slaughterhouse workers to have PTSD and develop a tendency to violence later in life. And I'm sure you've all heard about the recent child slave labour scandal as well. A few videos to watch if you'd like to learn more. These videos [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWh0mh6xwk) and [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWPsvHeGo9I) may help you learn more.
* Before anyone mentions, health is not a problem. [A properly planned vegan diet is perfectly healthy](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6742661/))
* And lastly, [veganism is not at all expensive, it's in many cases much cheaper.](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study) Beans, rice, lentils, etc are not more expensive than animals. What you think is expensive is plant based capitalism (such as plant based meats), something you don't need and are already in opposition of.
[**https://speciesjustice.org/**](https://speciesjustice.org/) **IF you're interested in doing some further reading on SPECIESISM.**
EDIT:
* NO ETHICAL CONSUMPTION UNDER CAPITALISM IS THE WORST EXCUSE. THERE IS EVIL AND THERE IS LESSER EVIL. WHEN THEY ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE, YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO CHOOSE THE LESSER EVIL
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Non-vegan leftists, why not?EDIT 2: Recommend watching the documentary Dominion (2018)
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>*Anarchism is a social movement that seeks liberation from oppressive systems of control including but not limited to the state, capitalism, racism, sexism, ableism, speciesism, and religion. Anarchists advocate a self-managed, classless, stateless society without borders, bosses, or rulers where everyone takes collective responsibility for the health and prosperity of themselves and the environment.* \-- [**r/Anarchism**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/) **subreddit description**
People in developed countries that buy their animal products from supermarkets and grocery stores - What is your excuse for supporting injustice on your plate? Why are you a speciesist??
Reasons to be vegan -
* Farm animals are one of the most oppressed groups on this planet. They are subjected to an endless amount abuse and exploitation. We confine them, rape them, and murder them. Such inhumane acts can not be justified solely because they are not human.
* [Animal agriculture creates more than 15% (cows alone) of greenhouse emissions.](https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable)
* Animal farming is way more resource and energy intensive. [100 times as much land to produce a kilocalorie of beef or lamb versus plant-based alternatives\]](https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets). We are gambling the world's future by choosing to oppress animals.
* Factory farms are breeding ground for diseases. Very self explanatory, thousands of animals situated in close proximity allows disease spread. Think Mad cow and the many bird flus. [Diseases and bacterium are developing antibiotic resistance](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017557/) due to factory farms using antibiotics in order to compensate for the horrendous living conditions that make animals sick
* Human rights violations is highly prevalent in animal agriculture. Very common for slaughterhouse workers to have PTSD and develop a tendency to violence later in life. And I'm sure you've all heard about the recent child slave labour scandal as well. A few videos to watch if you'd like to learn more. These videos [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWh0mh6xwk) and [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWPsvHeGo9I) may help you learn more.
* Before anyone mentions, health is not a problem. [A properly planned vegan diet is perfectly healthy](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6742661/))
* And lastly, [veganism is not at all expensive, it's in many cases much cheaper.](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study) Beans, rice, lentils, etc are not more expensive than animals. What you think is expensive is plant based capitalism (such as plant based meats), something you don't need and are already in opposition of.
[**https://speciesjustice.org/**](https://speciesjustice.org/) **IF you're interested in doing some further reading on SPECIESISM.**
EDIT:
* NO ETHICAL CONSUMPTION UNDER CAPITALISM IS THE WORST EXCUSE. THERE IS EVIL AND THERE IS LESSER EVIL. WHEN THEY ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE, YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO CHOOSE THE LESSER EVIL
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Non-vegan leftists, why not?EDIT 2: Recommend watching the documentary Dominion (2018)
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>*Anarchism is a social movement that seeks liberation from oppressive systems of control including but not limited to the state, capitalism, racism, sexism, ableism, speciesism, and religion. Anarchists advocate a self-managed, classless, stateless society without borders, bosses, or rulers where everyone takes collective responsibility for the health and prosperity of themselves and the environment.* \-- [**r/Anarchism**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/) **subreddit description**
People in developed countries that buy their animal products from supermarkets and grocery stores - What is your excuse for supporting injustice on your plate? Why are you a speciesist??
Reasons to be vegan -
* Farm animals are one of the most oppressed groups on this planet. They are subjected to an endless amount abuse and exploitation. We confine them, rape them, and murder them. Such inhumane acts can not be justified solely because they are not human.
* [Animal agriculture creates more than 15% (cows alone) of greenhouse emissions.](https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/making-cattle-more-sustainable)
* Animal farming is way more resource and energy intensive. [100 times as much land to produce a kilocalorie of beef or lamb versus plant-based alternatives\]](https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets). We are gambling the world's future by choosing to oppress animals.
* Factory farms are breeding ground for diseases. Very self explanatory, thousands of animals situated in close proximity allows disease spread. Think Mad cow and the many bird flus. [Diseases and bacterium are developing antibiotic resistance](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017557/) due to factory farms using antibiotics in order to compensate for the horrendous living conditions that make animals sick
* Human rights violations is highly prevalent in animal agriculture. Very common for slaughterhouse workers to have PTSD and develop a tendency to violence later in life. And I'm sure you've all heard about the recent child slave labour scandal as well. A few videos to watch if you'd like to learn more. These videos [1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWh0mh6xwk) and [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWPsvHeGo9I) may help you learn more.
* Before anyone mentions, health is not a problem. [A properly planned vegan diet is perfectly healthy](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6742661/))
* And lastly, [veganism is not at all expensive, it's in many cases much cheaper.](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study) Beans, rice, lentils, etc are not more expensive than animals. What you think is expensive is plant based capitalism (such as plant based meats), something you don't need and are already in opposition of.
[**https://speciesjustice.org/**](https://speciesjustice.org/) **IF you're interested in doing some further reading on SPECIESISM.**
EDIT:
* NO ETHICAL CONSUMPTION UNDER CAPITALISM IS THE WORST EXCUSE. THERE IS EVIL AND THERE IS LESSER EVIL. WHEN THEY ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS AVAILABLE, YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO CHOOSE THE LESSER EVIL
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Yes, let’s continue dividing.
Yes, let’s continue dividing.
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i do not think it is acceptable to equate oppressed people to farm animals
The competitive spirit an evolutionary trait
> They claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing which ~~injured dozens of bystanders~~ *killed a dozen cops* in 2016: https://archive.ph/Np6Ra
FTFY
First off you have to understand that there are people that just cannot go vegan. I also don't mind the eating of meat. My problem with meat in general is the factory farming and the way it's done, not the fact that animals kill for the sake of us. After all other animals that are omnivores do get to eat meat but we don't because we're seen as special or something? Doesn't that suggest that we are somehow better than the other animals? No, my problem is more with the factory farming. As for the animals that I don't need to, I don't eat eggs because of the macerators s***, and I don't eat any kind of pork products because I see pigs as intelligent. I also don't need feel because I don't like the idea of eating a baby cow. Usually it's just based off of my own feelings. Yes it's based off of my own feelings. I'm probably one video away from not eating cow all together but at the moment I just don't do that.
Not only that but when I tried to do some kind of different diet which was vegetarianism my mom did a weird power move and took me to a meat eating place. Remember some people cannot do different diets because their parents will not let them. Not everyone on Reddit is an adult after all. A friend of mine from Denmark for example wanted to go vegetarian or pescatarian. He had to basically do it all by himself as his parents wouldn't even give him a spot in the refrigerator to put his food.
Also good luck trying to convince an egoist that they should do something for ethical reasons.
Great argument against industrial farming, not an argument against meat consumption generally. Then we’re back to the whole no ethical consumption under capitalism thing (though it’s not capitalism *specifically* causing this problem, it’s a long-running human attitude towards domestication)
We *could* eat meat ethically, we don’t do it now, personally I tend to side that this is a good reason to fight the system creating the unethical situation not strictly the consumption part.
Is it realistic to expect that people will eat meat occasionally and solely from animals which grew up outside the bounds of human control? Probably not. But ethically there’d be nothing wrong with us not raising animals and me going out and shooting/eating a deer, so I think that’s the place we should aim for.
Obviously people drastically reducing their meat consumption is still necessary in that scenario, so I think it’s a worthwhile practice in the interim.
Several questions that I have difficulty finding answers for when I looked earlier:
1. Where is the line? Cows have about the same processing ability as dozens, if not hundreds of insect species, including spiders that are probably in your house right now. Are we doing the jainist thing where we wear robes and carry brooms to sweep bugs aside? Why or why not? (Note, factory farming is bad, I know, but I am sure you have killed a spider and that wasn't even for eating, just convenience, so I am really asking this in good faith)
2. Ecology and animals. The vast majority of farm animals can not survive in the wild anymore. How do we deal with them after we stop eating meat? Do we force breed them to a more "original" form? Thier ecosystems are tiny and can support barely any even if we do this. Do we just force them to decrease in population? If we apply human ethics, that is genocide, right? What about invasive species? Can we kill them? Catch and neuter is still abuse under your framework. How do we perform vital ecological repair under this system?
3. Indigenous peoples and traditions. Can Indigenous groups practice their culture? Do they have to become vegan? Where is that line? Do traditional European farming methods count? How traditional must it be?
Factory farming and current capitalist exploitation are terrible, but meat and animal products are a part of every culture on earth, so I wanted to have some clarification on what exactly you want us to do. Decrease meat consumption? Definitely. Entirely eliminate every single usage of non plant based materials? What. How do you even do that? Can you have a mutually beneficial arrangement with animals? I am just confused at this point.
I am Turkish, so I don't support any of those organizations. In my eyes, they are terrorists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a nationalist. I know my country has history of being genocidal. I know they want to mess with whole country's demographics to change us from secular country to Islamic one. We have Kurdistan problem, not Kurd problem. There are two minorities in this country, and the whole politics are run by them. One thinks all Kurds should be killed, the other thinks Turks are the enemy. Unfortunately, the whole country became battleground for them. I believe everyone who speaks Turkish language is Turkish. Turkish is national identity, as well as ethnicity. That's why people got confused. If you visit matrys of War of Liberation in Turkey, you will see lots of Kurdish names there. Also, if the word Turk is discrimitive for some people, I don't mind calling myself Anatolian or Anatol. Unlike some historians who thinks having genocidal history is a glories one.
Me and everyone are jesters and that’s goodWhat do I mean by were all jesters I mean we’re clowns everyone gets clowns on, but then you have these people who gets so offended over one joke there’s not that offensive to begin with if you pay to go see a stand-up comedy, and sit down and watch it or leave without any complaint, yet, we have people like these in our world.
naw you were banned for being pro-state
Freedom for the revolutionist Dimitris Koufontinas [GREECE]
PoV: You're a female anarchistSo you consider yourself an anarchist and you're a woman. So you want to organise with comrades
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To your right you have someone who calls himself leftist. Except he likes male hegemony, authoritarianism, finds imperialism, genocide and slavery not too bad and has a weird fetish for male dictators with moustaches.
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To your other right you have someone who calls himself leftist. Except he finds capitalism not that bad, surely all we need are slight reforms, after all, he profits from the exploitation it brings. He also is likely upper middle class and white. He believes in "personal responsibility", which is how he got rich, after all (and totally not by the social, economic and cultural capital inherited from his parents).
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What unites them both is that they believe women are property and not human, except the first one sees them as private property, and the second one as public property.
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One of them offers misogyny and believes women are public property. The other offers misogyny and believes women are private property. Both of them will call you a cunt/hoe/bitch, both of them believe you exist to sexually serve them. In fact, one of them will actively encourage you to compete with other women who is more abusable/humiliatable by men, brag about seeing you as a commodity he can buy consent from and call it being "sex-positive" and "empowering" (if you're lucky; if not, he will just "take what is rightfully his"). The other will tell you to go make him a sandwich and dreams about imprisoning "unruly, hysterical" women.
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Choose.
To Change Everything
I’m pretty sure if you shot my son in cold blood I’d retaliate
The source is the people in America who support our ridiculous culture of loving guns have, for the most part, expressed a strong desire to kill a lot of oppressed people. To the point that they're attempting to make it national policy. Officially.
I eat meat and drive trucks
And shoot guns and don't trust in the
Federal government to solve our problems
You might think I'm joking
But I'm not a Republican
Call me when your president pulls out of Afghanistan
Because that's the day I'll get a cell phone number
And you can call and leave a message on voice mail that day
> *We're All Compost in Training*
No one wants to face the underlying causal reason if it and therefore we get nowhere. The conservatives are right that “guns don’t kill people” and the liberals are right that we don’t need killing machines lying around everywhere. Either way the underlying issue is that the ivory tower is collapsing and capitalism creates a nightmare reality that’s good for no one. It solves nothing but our need for nothingness.
I'm sorry but all of this is untrue. It's a story that Beau (Justin Eric King) concocted which is not reflected at all in the actual evidence for what happened.
>Upon his return to the US, he became an activist and agitator.
There is no evidence that Justin Eric King was an activist of any sort before mid-2012, after he had already been released from prison.
>The 'human trafficking' charges he faced were the result of him being partof a mutual aid network providing food, shelter and other support forundocumented immigrants in his home state of Florida.
This is absolutely just a bold-faced lie. Justin Eric King was the head of the local operation of a multinational human trafficking & forced labor business called Eurohouse.
His business found vulnerable young women in Eastern Europe and promised them seasonal work at a hotel in Florida for 6 months to 1 year. King forged visas for this purpose, telling the women that they would be working at one single hotel as a direct employee. They were charged $2000 for this. When they arrived, they instead found out that they would be working as contractors for King's branch of Eurohouse at many different hotels. So King defrauded them, misleading them into believing they would work directly for one company, then rented them out as contractors for his own profit. In doing so, he made them complicit in immigration fraud, which is a serious federal crime. None of the victims had any idea that their visas were invalid.
They were made to live in cramped apartments with 15-20 other workers, which they were also forced to pay rent for.
The "they were undocumented refugees smuggled across the border" excuse is obviously bunk as they WERE documented and they each only stayed in the US for 6 months to 1 year. Every victim arrived with a return ticket that they fully intended to use. A key part of the operation's success was the use of temporary workers, as they would choose to just go home rather than complain to the police.
Victim testimony, along with other physical evidence entered into the record such as contracts and payslips, show that:
\- King was intimately involved in the operation. Not only did he defraud these women by lying to them about the nature of their visas & their work, but he was the one who was responsible for contracting them out to hotels and victims place him as their most intimate contact.
\- King imposed debts on them and then garnished payment from their wages. For example he charged one victim $1200 for a $200 visa renewal and then garnished $350 per week from her weekly pay of $600 to pay it back
\- King split up their payslips to avoid paying them overtime. He made one victim work for 80 hours in one week and told her it was normal to do this so she didn't complain.
\- The operation was profitable specifically due to its ability to exploit forced labor, as they were able to contract workers out for less than minimum wage.
\-The victims were routinely threatened to keep them working & quiet, particularly with physical violence and deportation.
\- King made millions off this operation and today still owns two of the properties that he bought with the money, worth a total of $1.5 million
Sources:
[Florida University's Centre for the Advancement of Human Rights report on the case based on the evidence put onto the record during it.](https://www.dcjs.virginia.gov/sites/dcjs.virginia.gov/files/publications/victims/florida-strategic-plan-human-trafficking.pdf)
[Direct victim testimony which includes lots of physical evidence entered into the record.](http://www.mediafire.com/view/2mf662qujg02riq/JustinKing_131_11-30-07_-_Tanya_Vardazhieva_.pdf)
[Blog post from 2013 which has lots of info on his crimes and who he is. It was written after activists in Florida became suspicious of him for inserting himself into their movements despite having no discernable history of activism.](http://justin-king-snitch.blogspot.com/)
I don't see what's so depressing about me wanting to win a round of chess or basketball. Professional competitions are a different matter, but I want us plebeians to keep our silly games. And self-defence is quite a different scenario than a sport, where you do not risk losing your life by being competitive and not calm. I also don't see a problem wanting to be better than somebody else in your profession when you live in an anarchist society. If you are a carpenter there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a good carpenter.
A lot of people think that socialists are joyless buzz-kills and know you're coming along being against 100% of sports.
This Is America #181: Resistance News and Anarchist AnalysisDon't miss the latest episode of This Is America, as It's Going Down speaks with antifascist journalist Vishal Singh from Southern California about escalating far-Right street activity coupled with growing GOP attacks on LGBTQ people.
We also roundup ongoing #StopCopCity resistance, housing struggles, the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) kicking off a new union drive in Berkeley, CA, people taking to streets against the police murder of Tyre Nichols, the ecological disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, and much, much more!
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The good and bad apples
The good and bad apples
Öcalan as Thinker - David Graeber
How does Anarchism deal with the hierarchy of popularity?I know for a fact that certain people are more likely to become popular as a sheer matter of genetic/aesthetic appeal, as well as specific social conditioning that allows for some people to be more charismatic/charming than others. This necessarily forms social hierarchies between those who are "popular" and those who are not. How does Anarchism conceptually deal with these hierarchies?
In a more material sense, I've recently been looking into the Russian Revolution in the early 20th century and how people like Lenin and Stalin were essentially able to, via charisma and charm, rise above their fellow revolutionaries, take an inordinate amount of control within the revolution, and establish hierarchies between themselves and their comrades. Obviously, we know how that turned out for anarchists and even the other revolutionaries.
Essentially my question is, in an Anarchist revolution, how would we deal with this possibility? Would we reject the mere concept of figureheads, people to look up to, etc. or would we establish guardrails for any outspoken persons in the movement?
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How does Anarchism deal with the hierarchy of popularity?I know for a fact that certain people are more likely to become popular as a sheer matter of genetic/aesthetic appeal, as well as specific social conditioning that allows for some people to be more charismatic/charming than others. This necessarily forms social hierarchies between those who are "popular" and those who are not. How does Anarchism conceptually deal with these hierarchies?
In a more material sense, I've recently been looking into the Russian Revolution in the early 20th century and how people like Lenin and Stalin were essentially able to, via charisma and charm, rise above their fellow revolutionaries, take an inordinate amount of control within the revolution, and establish hierarchies between themselves and their comrades. Obviously, we know how that turned out for anarchists and even the other revolutionaries.
Essentially my question is, in an Anarchist revolution, how would we deal with this possibility? Would we reject the mere concept of figureheads, people to look up to, etc. or would we establish guardrails for any outspoken persons in the movement?
I just realised I was an anarchist since i was 9When I was 9 years old I was sitting on a bench in a park in my home town in Tunisia. Until a police car stopped in front of me like 50 cm away. I didn't care and I was too young to recognize the threat and appearently the cops can go anywhere and you MUST fuck off when they stop close to you. After maybe 5 minutes, 2 of them walked out of the car. I tried to run away but I couldn't, one of them slaped me on the face and the other kicked me away not to mention the insults. I told my father about it and He said it was pointless to report it ( he was right ). That's it, a little traumatic story. Now I'm trying to use my hatred in a smart way to resist the system although I'm strugling. ACAB and peace to everyone
Two of the biggest historical mistakes by anarchistsShort version: The [Eichenfeld massacre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichenfeld_massacre) by Makhnovists and [House of the World Workers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_del_Obrero_Mundial) attacking the Zapatistas.
Long version: I'm going through a big "reading about anarchist history" phase right now. And in doing so I've accidentally stumbled upon information about two of the biggest mistakes I think have been made in anarchist history.
Firstly, the Eichenfeld massacre refers to one of many massacres committed by the Makhnovists against the German Mennonite community in Ukraine. Although the Mennonites were largely landowners and the Makhnovists were justified in putting said lands into common ownership, the killing of them and sexual abuse of their female family members is a bit too excessive. I could point out that Makhno seemed to be against this, but we do not want to establish hero worship nor fall into whataboutism by pointing out how the reds and whites were worse in that war.
Secondly, the House of the World Worker was an anarcho-syndicalist union active in Mexico around the time of the Mexican Revolution (1910-1920). At the same time, there was also a force known as the Zapatistas (who are the precursors to the ones you probably know today, who would probably be better described as Neo-Zapatistas) who ran on a sort of indigenous libertarian socialism (someone with more knowledge feel free to correct me). For some reason, the anarcho-syndicalists formed armed units to fight them on behalf of Mexico's capitalist government. WTF.
These are just two of the worst things I think I've found that have been carried out by organised anarchist movements and I think it's worth reflecting on the historical mistakes made by anarchists rather than denying, downplaying or apologising for them.
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It's been a shit three years, but there have been some good things, too
An introduction to libertarian class analysis, in contrast to Marxist class analysisNo war but class war.
The Comte-Dunoyer view held the inherent class struggle to focus on which classes managed to gain control of the state apparatus. The ruling class is whichever group has managed to seize state power; the ruled are those groups who are taxed and regulated by those in command. Class interest, then, is defined as a group's relation to the state. State rule, with its taxation and exercise of power, controls, and conferring of subsidies and privileges, is the instrument that creates conflicts between the rulers and the ruled. What we have, then, is a "two-class" theory of class conflict, based on whether a group rules or is ruled by the state. On the free market, on the other hand, there is no class conflict, but a harmony of interest between all individuals in society cooperating in and through production and exchange.
James Mill developed a similar theory in the 1820s and 1830s. It is not known whether he arrived at it independently or was influenced by the French libertarians; it is clear, however, that Mill's analysis was devoid of the rich applications to the history of western Europe that Comte, Dunoyer, and their young associate, the historian Augustin Thierry, had worked out. All government, Mill pointed out, was run by the ruling class, the few who dominated and exploited the ruled, the many. Since all groups tend to act for their selfish interests, he noted, it is absurd to expect the ruling clique to act altruistically for the "public good." Like everyone else, they will use their opportunities for their own gain, which means to loot the many, and to favor their own or allied special interests as against those of the public. Hence Mill's habitual use of the term "sinister" interests as against the good of the public. For Mill and the radicals, we should note, the public good meant specifically laissez-faire government confined to the minimal functions of police, defense and the administration of justice.
An introduction to libertarian class analysis, in contrast to Marxist class analysisNo war but class war.
The Comte-Dunoyer view held the inherent class struggle to focus on which classes managed to gain control of the state apparatus. The ruling class is whichever group has managed to seize state power; the ruled are those groups who are taxed and regulated by those in command. Class interest, then, is defined as a group's relation to the state. State rule, with its taxation and exercise of power, controls, and conferring of subsidies and privileges, is the instrument that creates conflicts between the rulers and the ruled. What we have, then, is a "two-class" theory of class conflict, based on whether a group rules or is ruled by the state. On the free market, on the other hand, there is no class conflict, but a harmony of interest between all individuals in society cooperating in and through production and exchange.
James Mill developed a similar theory in the 1820s and 1830s. It is not known whether he arrived at it independently or was influenced by the French libertarians; it is clear, however, that Mill's analysis was devoid of the rich applications to the history of western Europe that Comte, Dunoyer, and their young associate, the historian Augustin Thierry, had worked out. All government, Mill pointed out, was run by the ruling class, the few who dominated and exploited the ruled, the many. Since all groups tend to act for their selfish interests, he noted, it is absurd to expect the ruling clique to act altruistically for the "public good." Like everyone else, they will use their opportunities for their own gain, which means to loot the many, and to favor their own or allied special interests as against those of the public. Hence Mill's habitual use of the term "sinister" interests as against the good of the public. For Mill and the radicals, we should note, the public good meant specifically laissez-faire government confined to the minimal functions of police, defense and the administration of justice.
Community stuff?this is not a promise or an ask for volunteers or a proposal. this is a vibes check.
but like what if we sometimes planned community events? documentary watch parties or book club chats or amas with idk who but someone?
Community stuff?this is not a promise or an ask for volunteers or a proposal. this is a vibes check.
but like what if we sometimes planned community events? documentary watch parties or book club chats or amas with idk who but someone?
Community stuff?this is not a promise or an ask for volunteers or a proposal. this is a vibes check.
but like what if we sometimes planned community events? documentary watch parties or book club chats or amas with idk who but someone?
Why do people get so pissed off about shoplifting?Even supposed anti-capitalists. Not had this problem with anarchists though.
They may share the sentiment that homeless people stealing for food isn't bad. But unless you're desperate, apparently you should just succumb to capitalism and resisting it by shoplifting is 'bad'. It's a 'chronically online' take to be pro-shoplifting and this and that. Like why do they even care?
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Wow, you’ve ignored their points multiple times because the existence of indigenous culture is inconvenient for your ideology. That’s pretty pathetic and actually bigoted of you. I’m allying with the indigenous anarchist over people like you any day.
> It boils down to "do you think other animals are equal to humans?"
I have to push back against this, as most vegans I know, including myself, don't think this way. I don't think a chicken's life I equal to a human's life. It would be more accurate to say it boils down to "do you find it morally acceptable to kill a sentient being for enjoyment?"
If people can and want to be vegan, that's their choice. I wish the nasty vegan edgelords weren't such a thing on the internet, but that's just an unfortunate thing that exists.
We can absolutely sustainably and humanely have meat in our diets, while respecting the animals. In my part of the world, Indigenous folks have been doing so for literal millennia. Hells, people in countless cultures all over the planet have been doing so for millennia.
A big issue I have with the jerk vegans is that they don't seem to understand the actual issues, one of which is the industrial farming industry. Industrial farming soy or whatever is also bad for the environment, trashes ecosystems, harms and kills animals, harms and exploits workers, etc.
Someone raising some goats and chickens on 15 acres is much less harmful, abusive, and exploitative than an industrial soy farm for tofu or whatever. Someone harvesting a caribou or moose and feeding their whole family or community for a winter is also better than an industrial soy farm, for the same aforementioned reasons. (Also, I'd argue more anarchist, since it's side-stepping the capitalism, and is being more community-minded; not profit, not benefiting billionaires, just making sure no one in the community goes hungry.)
Simply wanting to replace one crop with another without addressing the underlying harm and exploitation of the industry isn't actually solving the problem or more moral or any of that.
Also, the logistics simply don't always work that way, depending on where in the world people live. Where I live, for example, there's just not a lot of arable land. We don't have a lot of farmland or orchards. Half our year is winter, cold dark long hard winter, so the actual growing season for food is only a couple-three months. Hunting and fishing and small things like having chickens or goats is really important to ensure people have food, which they need to live.
What we have in the stores here is trucked up for days. Further north, it has to be flown in. This makes all that food wildly expensive, and buying it just lines the pockets of the grocery-chain-owning billionaires. And the further north you go, the more expensive food becomes. There's a reason the Indigenous folks up here ate (and eat) the traditional diets they did (and do).
Some folks in some places of the world have access to affordable meat alternatives, and that's great for them! They should eat them, they need food to live, they should eat the food.
Not all of us have that luxury, we just don't have access to affordable meat alternatives, but we can affordably access meat. We need food to live, so we should eat the food.
Lastly, the jerk vegans would convince more people if they weren't such colossal dicks about it. Being an asshole to people over food isn't convincing anyone the vegan cause is moral and righteous and just, it's just convincing people that vegans are assholes.
Calling people animal abusers because they have goats on an acreage to feed their family isn't going to convince anyone reasonable to join the cause. It's just going to convince people that the vegans are unhinged assholes.
A lot of that, I think, is insecurity. It's pretty insecure make a dietary lifestyle choice into one's entire personality, and even more so to then pretend it makes one "superior" to everyone who doesn't/can't also make/afford said lifestyle choice. And yeah, the whole accusing people of eating food to be "abusers" or "monsters" or whatever, that's just sad little edgelords trying to be edgy. Like a pizza cutter, all edge and no point. It's just to be all "look at me, so edgy, I say these shocking things on the internet for attention, do I shock you?!? I'm so edgy" which again, just screams desperate insecurity.
Also please don't forget to support the Ukrainian anarchists who are on the front lines and have been putting their lives at risk for decades before this latest genocidal invasion:
[https://t.me/s/lvivvegankitchen](https://t.me/s/lvivvegankitchen)
[https://twitter.com/gnimperialpride](https://twitter.com/gnimperialpride)
[https://t.me/s/khardcore](https://t.me/s/khardcore)
[https://t.me/helpingtoleave\_bot](https://t.me/helpingtoleave_bot)
[https://www.instagram.com/hwv\_ua/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D](https://www.instagram.com/hwv_ua/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D)
Also please don't forget to support the Ukrainian anarchists who are on the front lines and have been putting their lives at risk for decades before this latest genocidal invasion:
https://t.me/s/lvivvegankitchen
https://twitter.com/gnimperialpride
https://t.me/s/khardcore
https://t.me/helpingtoleave_bot
https://www.instagram.com/hwv_ua/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D
Really sorry for the grumpy post, but I am exhausted from this genocide.
It's been while encouraging to see Russian anarchists finally not both-sidesing this "conflict war" and stopping saying things like "no war but class war", and instead starting to protest and spray paint government buildings and all that, it's been a little discouraging to see that as the forefront of anarchist comrades coming together to take on Russia's government while so many leftists were discouraging us from supporting Ukrainian anarchists struggles for so long even before last year. Let us not forget that yes, being thrown into jail for protesting is terrible, but my Ukrainian comrades here have been looking up a barrel pointed between their eyes for decades (technically centuries, but I mostly mean here as it stands since the fall of the USSR) for standing up to Russia's government.
Please don't forget to support the Ukrainian anarchists who are on the front lines and have been putting their lives at risk for decades before this latest genocidal invasion. I will link a few of the latest support channels, but there are many, many more but I just don't have the mental energy to pull everything up right now I just noticed the only thing people on here going "based!" about is Russian protesters and the hammered on perpetuation of soviet anarchist aesthetics that for some reason to this day, get mistaken as Russian when in fact again, we have Ukrainian anarchists who have been fronting this resistance since day 1, yet constantly get called Russian:
https://t.me/s/lvivvegankitchen
https://twitter.com/gnimperialpride
https://t.me/s/khardcore
https://t.me/helpingtoleave_bot
https://www.instagram.com/hwv_ua/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D
Also this person is a Belarusian comrade who has been a breath of fresh air from the beginning, and I cannot recommend them enough as someone to follow to keep up with all the reports of anarchist struggle in the east of Europe.
https://twitter.com/bad_immigrant/status/1621932009718169602?s=20
You should think about maybe why those animals kill their young etc in nature, and what we can gain or leave behind from nature. Death is not something we can leave behind but we can minimize that through permaculture, which would produce net positive life even for animals, yes.
Nothing more anarchist than the government forcing people to inject experimental medications into their bloodstream.
Not only is the post not about the vaccine and doesn't say anywhere that it supports the state, it literally says that the state is planing to kill people like me. The state is shit, it let us all down and still does everyday, it kills, fuck the state.
edit; It didn't let us down, it does what is was made to do; kill.
I'm not sure being pedantic about who the Nazis targeted first is all that helpful but.. Dachau was the first concentration camp opened in March 1933 and the first ones in were leftist anti-fascists.
During the first year, the camp had a capacity of 5,000 prisoners. Initially the internees were primarily German Communists, Social Democrats, trade unionists, and other political opponents of the Nazi regime. Over time, other groups were also interned at Dachau, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Roma (Gypsies), homosexuals, as well as "asocials" and repeat criminal offenders.
Unfortunately, your post has been removed, as it appears to be better suited for r/Anarchy101, which is a great resource to learn more about some of the fundamentals of anarchism, its history, etc. We recommend stopping over there and first **using the search bar** to see if your question has already been asked and answered before creating a new post.
Some other great resources you may be interested in include [our introduction to anarchism](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/wiki/primer) as well as [Anarchy Works](https://anarchy.works/primer.html) - an excellent book that covers a large number of frequently asked questions. If you prefer an ebook version, you can get a free copy in epub format [here](https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works.epub), but for someone trying to learn what anarchism is about, we would specifically recommend the following sections:
* [What exactly is Anarchism?](https://anarchy.works/primer.html#toc3)
* [How will decisions be made?](https://anarchy.works/primer.html#toc16)
* [Economy: How will exchange work?](https://anarchy.works/primer.html#toc29)
* [It works when we make it work](https://anarchy.works/primer.html#toc67)
In the meantime, you're still more than welcome to engage with the community while you learn!
What would Anarchist society look like?If someday Anarchist succeed to overthrow the system what would it look like? What would living in Anarchist society look like? Can it become corrupt overtime?
What would Anarchist society look like?If someday Anarchist succeed to overthrow the system what would it look like? What would living in Anarchist society look like? Can it become corrupt overtime?
I’m convinced that in order for an anarchist society to prevent the re-emergence of hierarchical domination, it must very actively push back against that idea of balance sheets, contracts, tit-for-tat exchanges, etc. These are the roots of wealth accumulation, debt peonage, and slavery.
I don’t believe that domination ever comes about because some exceptionally evil people decided to oppress others, or at least not that alone. Domination always needed to be justified with some kind of “objectivity”, as if there is anything objective about letting the homeless freeze or a child go to bed hungry while a ruling class lives in mansions. You can’t afford rent? Well, the landlord needs their bills paid too; it’s nothing personal. You need your job to survive? I’m sorry, but your employer will go bankrupt if they don’t fire you. Women want equal rights? But only men are capable to be leaders, it is a biological fact.
The idea that human affairs need to be reduced to a calculation of some kind to make them fair is what truly gives systems of domination their punch. The only way to make a large-scale economy work and not default to some kind of hierarchical command structure is for everyone to trust one another to not screw them over. Getting communities and individuals half way across the globe from one another to trust in each another without an “objective” monetary system or military force to enforce contracts might be a challenge.
how would destroying the power grid help their cause tho? most nazis are terminally online
Heyva Sor a Kurdistanê: urgent appeal for help for earthquake victims
they are more like omg killing people are so fun come and join us💀💀
you mean the place that criticizes the use of “terminally online” in their rules but uses it in their group description? sounds like a great organizing space 🙄
Why this sub does not have an online group?I believe that, to create an anarchist society, we need to organize and spread libertarian socialist ideas to those who dont understand what anarchism is. Then, shouldn't we begin that by being together, ourselves? I understand that we need to organize in real life, of course. But that does not mean we don't have a good opportunity of knowing other anarchists online. This subreddit, for example, can unite anarchists from the whole world, can be a good way of mixing different ideas together and then thinking about ways to spread them. What is the point of all these posts, on this subreddit, if we end our days separated from each other? Could not we share, i don't know, a discord server? Any online app that we can talk in real time? Could not we talk more, planning things together and learning with each other? We have an opportunity here to know other anarchists, to make good connections with amazing people and discover how to make people realize how good society can be!
But there is not any option of doing so on the sub bar, no groups, no ways to get together. We need to do so, don't we? Why are we separated? I have seen some people say "it's not safe to do so, it will be seen by cops", well, fuck them? Why do you even care? What are you so scared of? Will you deny your own ideas because someone will try to stop you from having them? We should stop being scared of what bad things can happen and start making good things happen instead
Can we just vote to dissolve the United States in exchange for local community organizing and mutual aid?Why do we need the presidents permission to do what we need as a civilization? We already know what we want and we can get workers who are willing to build more housing (but can’t) to do so. We can literally get people together and do what we need.
This is literally what brought me out of my tankie phase, we really don’t need a strong leader, just each other.
We just need to abolish authority wherever we can. Ffs it’s so simple how didn’t I come up with it sooner.
Money is fake, they plant make trees only, they make it illegal to garden in some places, let me do what I want ffs. Any harm I do is nothing compared to what the government does.
We can have literal doctor unions (but why would doctors want to work for free?) people would still want to study medicine either way so-
Omg holy shit thanks for anarchism yall.
Our comrades at Municipal Adhesives have produced a run of beautiful stickers as a gesture supporting us in the wake of corporate social media bans.
>I think of it more as tools created with the express purpose of defending my loved ones and my community.
Fair enough but I don't think that refutes the only purpose of them being to kill.
They don't call them defense rifles, it's "assault" for a reason.
All you're defending them from is other guns. And the way you defend is by using them to kill.
>A constitution is a means of organization and agreement for creating stability and clarity on the general rules we agree to live by, it doesn't defend itself, no idea does, it's defended by the people
This is so well said, thank you. What do you think of the idea of "nested" constitutions? That is, we have one constitution (aka social contract) for The People of Earth, and then every free association of people within this pool of 8 billion draws up their own - more specific - contract, and then "plugs it in" so to speak, to the base-level ("People of Earth") one.
This would literally disenfranchise many, many people though. Minorities particularly where there are communities that are majority bigot.
I wasn't really asking.
Be the change I want to see? Fuck your liberal crap, honky.
"So how is it that today the anarchist movement in Britain (and elsewhere) is supporting one nation's military against another, ideologically justifying and materially provisioning the Ukrainian war effort?"
Putin is the clear and obvious aggressor, is blowing up hospitals, and has openly threatened to use nuclear weapons in a first strike. Both sides are evil, but Putin is obviously much more dangerous. He's also an authoritarian who celebrates Stalin and openly imprisons and murders anarchists. In the U.S. and U.K., when the government kills you, at least they have to make up an excuse.
The American Civil War was not a War of Northern Aggression and what is happening in Ukraine is not a War of NATO Aggression.
Both sides were not the same in the American Civil War, World War II or the Spanish Civil War and they aren't the same now. Anarchists should be above this kind of campist ML bullshit.
If you're exhausted now wait till you're trying to become self sufficient! Its exhausting but fulfilling work. I have a simular goal but instead of Oregon i want to see a radical and sustainable community in the hundreds of abandoned "floating" islands (chinampas) in the southern part of Mexico City.
Some friends and I have been working a chinampa for the last couple years. Their capacity for food production is next level but the area is generally hard to access because you need some form of water craft to get around (plus a place to park it, assuming you're not living on the chinampa.
A drone shot of the area im working on --> https://postimg.cc/zyNcZzLy
Politics is numbers, as is change. If you can’t reach normal people you aren’t revolutionary- simple as.
Fuck you care about legality for? Just don’t get caught until you’re entrenched enough to be really annoying to kick out. I’m not anarchist, I’m just subbed to see what y’all are up to because it interests me, but fuck, you guys really are bad at planning action sometimes
I’d recommend reading up on some guides regarding squatting as well as some research on larger scale practical examples to get a good handle on what’s been done before and what you’re likely to be able to get away with. I’d also recommend acquiring and reading official US military guides to things like operational security, SEAR, surveillance, etc., as in my experience they are helpful, straightforwards, enjoyable to read, thorough, and available as free PDFs online if you look around. Later I could provide some links if you’d like examples.
My suggestion if your plan is oregon is to do some research on what tracts of land in the national forests are more extensively patrolled, exploited, and just generally inhabited, and occupying the most pleasant dead zone you can find.
Make absolutely sure to extensively plan escape routes and emergency plans, too. You guys don’t want to be caught with no food, no way to call for help, and no way back owing to snow.
You absolutely can do this. It’s not a systemic solution to capitalism but as long as you’re not alone and all involved are willing to do their best to ensure material health of the commune, it’s doable
can you actually give examples? or are you just being problematic/trying to justify your issues with your own version of misguided nationalism?
You do realize many white anarchists, are so, because they were never given a choice in their own self determination? I dont choose to focus on the differences, I would rather work on our similarities. Which seems to be a mystery, reading your responses...to what you actually want.
It seems like many leftists simplify/or co opt class issues, in lieu of racial issues. Instead of acknowledging both issues as both separate and overlapping. With very minimal input from the very communities they are piggybacking off of. it does happen for sure, but its not every group that is guilty of this. there are white allies that "get it".
Cop killing is probably the most overt example of systemic racial disparity. Something, of which, you cannot convince the majority of YT people of.
But, I see police abolishment in a hierarchal society, as a non starter personally. I dont think radical solution exist within a capitalist society. Because, as you said, the police are a symptom of hierarchies which relies on racism/classism/otherism. The police push disparity on poor communities, and the cycle repeats itself. Its like a snake that devours its own tail.
Thats just capitalism.
The only solution I keep coming back to, is a choice. We can create our own society, if we believe in creating a non hierarchal existence (and I think we can). VS. doing the same thing every day.
OR- we can go the route of the black nationalists before us (early malcolm X/ the nation of islam), and create an ethnostate, essentially segregating us once again.
I prefer the new society, within the broken one. Or you can continue your hateful nationalism, and become your oppressor....which honestly sounds like misery.
If it becomes too successful, govt. might tax and ordinance it to death or Waco it.
>No other such tool exists afaik
Swords, spears, polearms, bows, slingshots, shillelagh.
Edit: How could I forget my beloved favorite low-tech killing tool, the atlatl. Atlatls don't get enough love and attention.
Hell yea, be armed, I carry when I go out, and am planning on going shooting latter today
I do have to say that none of that has anything to do with what I said about naturally occurring physical hierarchies in terms of self defense. A strike from a 6’+ man is vastly more lethal than a punch from a smaller opponent. A bullet from either has the exact same velocity.
That said do you think the guns, or even just weapons are the reason these regions have hierarchies? Violence and fracture are systems driven effects imo. Munitions have a negligible effect on the existence of it outside of lethality. The world was more lethal and more Balkanized prior to the existence of firearms than it is today.
I think, in the U.S. anyway, a lot of us who grew up outside of urban environments don't look at guns the way urbanites or Europeans do. We went shooting for fun, we shot in Boy scouts when I was a kid, and we hunted to supplement our groceries. There were very few breaking and entry situations because you would probably get shot. I can remember riding around in our truck with a gun in the rack, and getting dropped at school, and no one thinking anything of it. Most of the "gun nut" types were vets. It never even occurred to me to shoot someone because it was entirely counterintuitive to all the safety training that was beaten into my head. When I moved to the city, Suddenly everyone talked about self-defense. We needed guns, because of fash. Fash wanted guns, because of us, and anyone of color. Our local gangs wanted them for gangster issues and so on. And of course, there were the pigs. Now I did occasionally shoot rats in some of the places I lived in, but for the most part the entire "gun culture" was entirely different. That's the problem. Guns are a tool, How we approach them is the problem, are they a tool, or an excuse? If you break in my house, I'd probably give you my tv and some anarchist literature, but if my family is threatened, things will be different. And finally, even if there were no guns, we'd simply build bombs.
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" as a First Nations Canadian firearms are integral to our way of life (even more so for the far more rural reservations) and in keeping with our traditional ways. Oh and also the fact our colonialist government consistently tries to kill and suppress us and has so for the last few hundred years.
I own a few and I practice when I can. Besides being a great tool for self and community defense, I think they're just fun to shoot.
I live in Germany and I know noöne who would have guns or some kind of weapons that is not pepper spray, knives found in the kitchen or smth. If there's a real risk of being attacked violently, then I'd recommend guns I guess. Else, preferably not.
Fucking hell are the other commenters ever missing the point here.
Edit: I guess I should provide context that other people don't have, since I'm Dutch and have been aware of this liberal vanity project.
So let's address some things:
# These houses are cheap.
So... That's not true. While the houses are roughly around the *average price* of a house in the Netherlands, that average includes really expensive houses in the suburbs around big cities that go for four times as much as these houses...
The reality is that for their size and location, these houses are hideously expensive.
The reason these houses are so expensive (besides the usual liberal 'better than everyone else' tax) is that several private companies have sold experimental equipment (like the water circulation/filtration system). This neighbourhood is partially meant for testing out the technology.
However, to be fair and provide full context, they're not as expensive as they could be, since this neighbourhood receives a fuckton of subsidies from both the local government (who like being able to brag about their super eco-friendly new neighbourhood) and the national government (who have made an agreement with the EU to put a certain percentage of the national budget towards improving sustainability and combating climate change and have chosen to put a sizeable amount of it towards this vanity project by a developer who's friends with a cabinet member, rather than, say, improving public transit or investing in more solar or wind power for the national power grid).
And, unlike for most housing projects in the Netherlands, the residents don't have to pay for the cost the builders incurred purchasing the land, since the land was donated by the town.
# The people who live there aren't rich.
This is similarly not a lie, but only on a technical level. The people who live in this neighbourhood aren't *all* rich. Some of them are 'only' members of the top 40%, not members of the top 10%. And therefore *technically '*well-off', not rich.
And indeed there are some people in the neighbourhood who are regular workers. The founder of this project (who is an architect who wants other cities and towns to hire him to build them similar neighbourhoods) proudly tells people that the inhabitants of the neighbourhood are 'average' people.
There's someone who 'works in healthcare'
The way he phrases it in Dutch implies it's a doctor or nurse, but when you look into it, it's actually the veterinarian who takes care of the health of the animals that the project relies on for part of its food self-sufficiency.
A 'welder'
That one's accurate, some of the inhabitants of the neighbourhood are project employees who are responsible for the maintenance of all the experimental devices the neighbourhood uses, including a welder.
The original intent was for the neighbourhood to be 18 houses, but after a few months they built 6 additional buildings (five houses and a toolshed) in order to move the maintenance crew onto the site, since the residents were getting tired of the maintenance crew having to come from off site whenever something broke. Stuff breaks a lot.
None of the maintenance staff would be able to afford to live there on their own salaries, but the project pays their living costs to keep them close at hand.
And several members of the local town council. (You know 'average people'. I wonder is there's any overlap between the people who voted for the town to donate free land to the project and those live there now. I won't spoil the surprise, but as unrelated interesting fact, did you know that some Venn diagrams are just a single circle?).
What he carefully avoids mentioning is that everyone else who lives there is an investor in the project, either in the project itself (backing the architect's company and expecting a return when he gets hired to do more neighbourhoods like this) or in the technology behind it.
# Ok, but it's still a net benefit for the environment, right?
No, actually.
With the exception of the on-site staff who keep things from falling apart on the inhabitant, all of the people who live there work off-site. And not in the nearby town either. The fact that this site is so out-of-the-way in order to be surrounded by green in The Netherlands (the most urbanised country in Europe, possibly the world, that isn't a city-state) means that the collective commute of the residents alone offsets nearly all the ecological benefits of the neighbourhood itself.
In addition, when the neighbourhood says it's 70% *energy self-sufficient*, what it means is that it produces an amount of electricity equal to 70% of what it consumes... What it markedly does not mean is that 70% of it's electricity comes from those solar panels on the roof.
What it means instead is that when it's sunny outside, those solar panels produce more energy than the residents use and that gets dumped into the national grid (i.e. the neighbourhood doesn't actually *use* or even store most of the electricity it generates). When the sun goes down, all the houses start getting power *from* the national grid (which still runs mostly on coal and natural gas) instead.
And... Do you know how people in this neighbourhood keep warm during the winter? Wood-burning stoves and furnaces.
Using pre-cut wood brought by the literal truckload into the neighbourhood (well... to the edge of the neighbourhood, they don't allow cars into the neighbourhood). The emissions from that transport and wood burning alone would make it more eco-friendly to just use natural gas or electric heating like everyone else in the country.
# What?
Yes, according to the calculations on how much wood this neighbourhood uses for its heating, it would be better for the environment for them to just use natural gas than what they're doing now. But the residents don't do that, because it doesn't *look* 'green' or 'rustic' and this neighbourhood is all about solarpunk aesthetics over actual solarpunk principles.
Take also the grass-covered roofs. That looks nice and green, right? It does. But, in addition to soil, grass needs water to grow properly and the amount of cold water that gets pumped onto these roofs in winter in order to keep the grass green cools down the houses so much that the heatpumps can't keep up and keep the house warm. That's why they need the wood stoves, those were a later addition.
# Final thoughts
The technology that this neighbourhood is pioneering, if wrested from the greedy corporate hands that want to be the only ones allowed to use or profit from it, has the potential to be a great benefit to people all over the world.
But the neighbourhood itself is just a vanity project by an architect who wants to get rich selling 'green' housing to the country, even if he has to actively harm the environment to maintain his desired aesthetic and a bunch of upper middle-class liberals who want to larp being eco-friendly by living in a car-free, 'green' neighbourhood while also commuting to their actual jobs in the big city a dozen miles away (which is a long distance in the Netherlands) in SUVs.
Same thing happened with the Somali officer in Minnesota who killed that white woman. He was fired and convicted so quick it made my head spin. I was shocked. There wasn’t even video.
The problem is that someone hunting for you is going to shoot you before you ever get your gun out to shoot them first (unless you're so paranoid that you never not have your gun in your hand, which feels like it wouldn't be a fun way to live), because the person hunting for you has already made the decision to shoot you before you're even aware of it and able to make the decision to shoot back/first.
That's why US cops murder so many innocent people: Because they're ~~taught~~ outright indoctrinated to always be ready to kill anyone they think might do them harm, so that they can make the split second decision to shoot before the other person does. Combine that with systemic racism, ableism and other forms of xenophobia and you get a deadly combination.
The thing is that I have seen several stories about the origin of the symbol. One says the origin is in Spain, another, as you mentioned, says it was in France, and I've seen stories that say it originated in the anarchist railroad cooperative in the USA.
I've never seen an account as convincing as the one by Tomás Ibáñez, who was presumably involved in the events in France. [This](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Le_premier_A_cercl%C3%A9.jpg) is the issue of the "Bulletin de liaison et de discussion des Jeunes Libertaires" where the "A cerclé" was introduced in those circles.
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If it’s everyone for themselves in a anarchistic society do people have to take care of their babies?
If it’s everyone for themselves in a anarchistic society do people have to take care of their babies?
The Dungeons and Dragons Character Alignment Tier ListI'm not even really an anarchist anymore, but, figured that my thoughts on this matter would be highly relevant to all of you.
Philosophical Anarchism:
1. Chaotic Good
2. True Neutral
3. Neutral Good
4. Chaotic Neutral
5. Lawful Good
6. Lawful Neutral
7. Chaotic Evil
8. Neutral Evil
9. Lawful Evil
Justified True Believer Anarchism:
1. Neutral Good
2. Chaotic Good
3. True Neutral
4. Chaotic Neutral
5. Lawful Good
6. Lawful Neutral
7. Chaotic Evil
8. Neutral Evil
9. Lawful Evil
Regular Anarchism:
1. Chaotic Good
2. True Neutral
3. Neutral Good
4. Chaotic Neutral
5. Lawful Neutral
6. Chaotic Evil
7. Lawful Good
8. Neutral Evil
9. Lawful Evil
*Agent Provocateur* Anarchism:
1. Chaotic Neutral
2. Chaotic Good
3. Chaotic Evil
4. True Neutral
5. Lawful Neutral
6. Neutral Evil
7. Neutral Good
8. Lawful Evil
9. Lawful Good
>and the state are armed and want us dead
'The state' doesn't want anarchists dead.
'The state' is an abstract term that exists as an umbrella term for many, very different governments and non-government authorities that we came up with so we can talk about the general problems with the concept of rulership. And you can't ascribe any desires or motivations to it, because 'the state' doesn't actually exist as a concrete entity in reality. (And people in the US, Anarchists and 'Libertarians' alike really need to stop using 'the state' when they mean 'the US federal government'.)
That said, nearly all *governments* are perfectly willing to kill anyone who threatens their continued existence (which definitely includes anarchists) once that threat becomes too effective to ignore. But, you know, anarchists in the US ain't seen as a threat to the US government right now and if every anarchist would go get a gun tomorrow, that would change considerably.
Today the faculty of letters at the Sapienza University in Rome was occupied by the students to protest against the 41 bis regime applied to the anarchist Alfredo Cospito ([Biography](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfredo_Cospito)).
Alfredo has been on hunger strike for 106 days against the 41 bis regime that was applied to him in May 2022 after 10 years of prison.
The 41 bis is an italian law made in the '90s to fight mafia and terrorists, which consists in making the prisoners not having touch with the outer world by living in a 3x2 meters cell with a bed, toilet and barely enough space to stand, the prisoner has to stay in this cell without windows 22 hours every day and have just one hour of free time to talk to other prisoners with the same condition, all the day is monitoredby the police. They are allowed to have a visit once a month with their relatives for one hour with a window separating them, so it's impossible to pass any objects.
This regime was criticized many times since it was approved by many human right organizations and by the European Court of Human Righs for being a way of torturing people, which is.
The application of this regime to Alfredo is just a political revenge from the state against an anarchist that didn't kill anybody (see biography in link above), considering he is not a terrorist neither a mafia member, for instance the people who did fascist terrorist attacks organized with the help of the ex governments and Nato against anarchists, communists and normal people in the '70s are free nowadays.
Since he started the hunger strike, he has lost over 45kg and his conditions are getting worse everyday, meanwhile the sentence to decide whether he will be out of the 41 bis or not has been set to the 24 february, this is just after many protests through italy and europe were made in the last few months, if all of this didn't happen it would have been in April. Even though the date was anticipated, Alfredo could be dead by that day, so the protesters are asking for Alfredo to be out that regime now by doing a lot of strikes, clashes with the police, setting on fire things and writing on the walls: "FUORI ALFREDO DAL 41 BIS" (Alfredo out of the 41 bis).
Today after a public meeting did at the Sapienza University (the biggest one in Italy), the students decided to occupy the faculty in solidariety of Alfredo and against the 41 bis, which is a form of torture.
While the far right government continues to say Alfredo should die in prison the protests won't stop until Alfredo is free, this saturday will be a national day where in Italy people will go in the streets asking for the abolition of the 41 bis and for Alfredo to be free.
Starts off with "vegans make it hard to be vegan sometimes." It's the same thing as "I'm not one of those feminists" and acting like a pick-me girl. A pick-me vegan if you will.
Says "eating a buffalo wing is like eating a baby" is a poor argument. Idk about the buffalo wing case in particular, but many animals that are eaten are literally babies.
Disagrees with vegans that claim all hunting is wrong: Vegans actually do make exceptions for survival situations like if you live in a food desert. We're not telling indigenous people to starve to death.
Disagrees with comparing factory farming with the Holocaust: Fun fact, the first people to make those claims were actually Holocaust survivors themselves. And they made those comparisons before they even went vegan. Alex Herschaft is a living vegan Holocaust survivor who says the comparison is valid and went vegetarian on the spot after visiting a slaughterhouse after the experience reminded him of living in Poland during the Holocaust.
Says we protest people doing holocausts to chickens, but not wolves so we're hypocrites: Every vegan knows that humans kill chickens for taste pleasure and wolves do it for survival. This is an obvious distinction that every vegan can recognise.
And all of this misrepresentation of vegans, silencing the voices of Holocaust survivors, and straight up ignorant arguments were made only within the first minute and a half. I'd be here all day to correct everything wrong with the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QhKfvSxn6o&t=221s
Yeah, deadass I when I thought when you said, "We'll hang from a tree" Kinda got emotional ngl based off past experiences with POC "Friends" I use that in heavy quotations because they weren't really my friends. But instead of integration I saw a simple thing "Black people killing black people, and white people in power allowing it" This Subredit should focus on that more as you say, But I need to know more info on the situation to form an opinion. Thanks for the info man
Is Anarchism a "White" Phenomenon?The heyday of American anarchism around the turn of the twentieth century was dominated by European immigrants who, although racialized by mainstream society, were predominantly ‘white’ by later twentieth-century standards. The number of self-identified Black anarchists was vanishingly small; even the most prominent Black anarchist in US history, Lucy Parsons, denied her own racial ancestry. The reason for Parsons’s repudiation of her Blackness was complex, but it took place in the context of what we would today criticize as the colorblindness of classical anarchism.
Anarchists rejected all forms of racism on principle and the anarchist-influenced Industrial Workers of the World was one of the first unions to organize across racial lines. Most anarchists, however, felt that addressing race directly only served to reify it and divide the working class. This produced a familiar result: in their dedication to universality, anarchists offered little to the particular problems of African Americans. This contributed to the decline of American anarchism and the corresponding rise of competing leftist tendencies that supported revolutionary forms of Black Nationalism, including the Communist Party in the 1930s. Although anarchists contributed to both the post-World War Two Civil Rights Movement and the social movements of the 1960s, anarchism as such remained marginal.
As Love and Rager Joel Olson later reflected, most white anarchists in the late twentieth century – including leading theorists like Murray Bookchin, Bob Black, and Hakim Bey – inherited the racial blindness of their predecessors.
This account of anarchism’s whiteness and its historical decline has become common sense among activists and historians alike. Yet the extent of US anarchism’s whiteness has been overstated – indeed, we can trace an alternative trajectory of anarchists of color who theorized and practiced anarchism in the face of white supremacy.
In the 1910s, for instance, Mexican and US anarchists worked together in the southern border region to aid and spread the Mexican revolution. Latino anarchists in Los Angeles supported Ricardo Flores Magón’s anarchist Partido Liberal Mexicano and helped organize a radical multi-racial workers’ movement that included the Industrial Workers of the World. In the 1930s, Civil Rights leader Ella Baker helped lead an anarchist-inspired organization of Black cooperatives and taught Peter Kropotkin’s Mutual Aid in her classes on cooperative economics.
Recent work on African American history has also emphasized the anarchistic qualities of Black life and revolt, from Saidiya Hartman’s *Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments* (2019) to William C. Anderson’s *The Nation on No Map: Black Anarchism and Abolition* (2021). Insisting on anarchism’s whiteness can contribute to the marginalization of anarchists of color. Yet despite this alternative tradition of US anarchism, race as such was not central to anarchist praxis until the late twentieth century.
Anarchist racial politics were transformed with the theorization of Black Anarchism as a distinct tendency in the 1980s. Ex-Black Panthers who were imprisoned for revolutionary activity – most notably Lorenzo Kom’boa Ervin, Ashanti Alston, and Kuwasi Balagoon – theorized what they variously called Black Anarchism or New Afrikan Anarchism. While they upheld the Black Panthers as the leading organization of the 1960s, they critiqued the party’s authoritarian and patriarchal tendencies.
Black anarchists synthesized anarchism with Black Nationalism and advocated national self-determination through non-hierarchical federations of Black communes rather than nation-states. This analysis inspired the birth of a generation of Black and people of color anarchist organizations, including the Federation of Black Community Partisans and Anarchist People of Color. Despite the profound contributions of these revolutionaries, however, they remained little known outside of a small number of activists.
This is excerpted from a forthcoming chapter of mine called “Smashing Whiteness: Race, Class, and Punk Subculture in the Love and Rage Revolutionary Anarchist Federation (1989-98)” in the Anarchism and Punk book project: [https://anarchismandpunk.noblogs.org](https://anarchismandpunk.noblogs.org/)
The Evolution of Metropolitics
The Evolution of Metropolitics
Japanase hardstyle edm anti-fascist song i found (i'm really into j-core): https://japanesestreamhardcore.bandcamp.com/track/kill-nazis
Sadly i can't find anything about the author or band (C.M.C)
Realities of Ukrainian draft dodgersMaybe Ukraine is going to win this war, but it has already lost the war for freedom of its citizens(as it's using now the conscription laws that are in common with russia(USSR's legacy)). The draft system is as corrupt as russian(you can bribe a doctor, who decides whether you will be drafted or not). In fact the situation is even worse, because unlike russians - we can't leave the country.
A month ago, Ukrainian government with the help of the regulation №1487 has announced the digitalization of draft processes: it says, that men will not be able to work without a work permission(you get one, when you're registered as a "potential" conscript), and obliges UA male citizens abroad to be registered there(so potentially UA will start asking other countries for extraditions of UA conscripts).
And after that - ТЦК(Територіальний Центр Комплектування, a.k.a. військомат) have created new draft patrols(bounty hunters), who issue draft summons to men on the streets, after asking them for an ID(illegal) and sometimes kidnap([https://youtu.be/3ZXoUb9285I?t=418](https://youtu.be/3ZXoUb9285I?t=418)) and deliver them to enlistment offices for a physical.
If you don't believe me, you can search for "ТЦК", on youtube. The whole country is frightened, while most Ukrainian law channels speak openly against this. There are groups in Telegram that literally track down the bounty hunters. A couple of them has more than 50k subscribers.
There are rumors, that they need conscripts to replace ZSU, while those will be used in a siege of Crimea/Donbass. All that while Reznikov(who is basically a minister of corruption) remains silent.
P.S. The folks who will tell me that my country needs me can f\*ck off, this country needed professional soldiers or an adequate draft system for 9 years. And nobody cared, cares and will care, because it's their business now.
GPT knows what’s up
An anti-war/military spending: “End the war before the war ends you”
“Defund police/Fund communities”
“Every gender, every race, punch a nazi in the face”
“Fascism is to be destroyed not debated”
I have a bunch of stickers that say “Helping Others Help Yourself” that Id be happy to send over.
Right, all of those Black revolutionaries advancing the same demands are just naïve “American” dupes too, yeah?
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I hate all bootsCops, soldiers, firefighters, paramedics, astronauts, construction workers ect. They are all entitled overpaid scumbags that demand your respect. I don’t care if you work hard and do a job that’s “dangerous”. No one is forcing you to do this job. I’m not impressed. Fuck your service.
Atlanta, Georgia - Now is the time to be educating people harder than ever about anarchism. Fuck this dystopian state
Idk if this is related but people should be aware:
The state is trying to build a "world class" police training center in untouched forest on the outskirts of Atlanta. Their crowd control trainings are modeled from Israeli police trainings dealing with crowd control in Palestine. (Literally). It's incredibly dystopian and scary. Read more about it here:
https://stopcop.city/
From the website:
"The City of Atlanta has leased 381-acres of Weelaunee Forest, stolen Muscogee land, to the Atlanta Police Foundation for a police military facility funded by corporations."
"Atlanta Police Foundation is trying to build the largest police training facility in the US in Weelaunee Forest, a watershed surrounded by primarily Black residents who overwhelmingly oppose the project.
The plans include military-grade training facilities, a mock city to practice urban warfare, dozens of shooting ranges, and a Black Hawk helicopter landing pad."
Chris Ealham's 'Anarchism and the City' (I think the older version, 'Class Culture and Conflict in Barcelona...' is available on libcom), especially the last couple of chapters.
If you read Spanish, try to read anything by Josep Antoni González Pozo — either 'Del orden revolucionario al orden antifascista' or 'Poder real y poder legal'.
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Between 70 million and 100 million—or as many as one in three Americans—have some type of criminal record
As a Ukrainian, thank you. Even this sub through the year last year had a lot of misinformed people posting and tankies misusing slogans like "no war but class war" to appeal to anarchists in order to minimize the continued 400+ year legacy of Russia's genocidal imperial colonial fashy rampage and our voices were getting choked out big time. I am tired. I just want us to survive and live. I want my home and my family back. To have my family history resorted that was stolen and purged during the stupid USSR. I can't believe how it is so hard for people to just see this and be like "yup that's a genocide". Anarchists need to be looking out for one another globally. GLOBALLY. Cause this fascism bs. It's everywhere.
And Russia's Black Hundreds never get talked about. The colonial eastern side of our small planet has suffered through countless atrocities, many bones buried, names and stories burned. The colonial west is too, just as terrible of a story. And there is no but to that. However, the colonial west is still in diapers. It is very young in comparison. The lives lost ANYWHERE is a tragedy, regardless of numbers. The individual pain and suffering of a single human should be making the planet cry. My country was founded and preserved through this knowledge and through constant battle for autonomy, in spite of Russian imperialism. Our national anthem literally says that we are not dead yet. We are resisting those fuckers to our last breath and just because I hate states and flags and yes even liberal democracies under capitalism, doesn't mean that I won't be just as damn proud to spit in the colonial face of our overbearing abusive ex that is Russia. People in leftist spaces shaming the Ukrainian flag for simply existing meanwhile they frantically wave the national flags of their favourite token nation of other colonised people. We get it. States are cringe. But ffs then put down those stupid variants of that cursed red and yellow McDonald's Soviet flag. The hammer and sickle represents the slave labour Ukrainians had to do in the fields for the masters. All we see is another swastika when we see it. As a people we suffered both the Holodomor AND the Holocaust, we can assure you. And would someone please just humanise us for a second and acknowledge that our existence and struggle for autonomy is just as valid as anywhere else. Holy mother of all that is, I hate red fascists so much. Our buildings are melting. Melting. And half. No the majority of the so-called "left" was just turning away. I've lost so many comrades who I've helped with their intersectional struggles. I've FLOWN to their countries to help. And when it happened to me in mass scale, just silence. Silence and raised eyebrows, as though I was to be ashamed for even considering to stand against the absolute absurdity that is complete and utter genocide. This has changed me. This has changed Ukrianian anarchsits. A place that has a long history of anarchist resistance. We have all changed. It's hard to trust anymore. I am tired.
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I became "radicalized" after a police officer's son killed my friend/roommate and they covered it up. I tried to expose it and the corruption went all the way to the top, in the worst possible ways. Had multiple attempts on my life for trying to expose things.
Before all that, I was super liberal but believed "law and order is necessary" etc. I'm also an entrepreneur which impacted my worldview. There's no going back to the way I saw things before. I can't believe I was ever so naive.
There's only one piece of politics I support, and that's the legalisation of drink driving. The racist government have marginalised us for too long.
Communist (ML) here. For starters, both anarchists and communists are striving towards a communist (state- and classless) society, so in that purely theoretical sense we are indeed soulmates. And when it comes to opposing capitalism and fascism, I'd say we're pretty much equally vigorous about it.
Our philosophical differences start to play a role already in the *how* of opposing those forces, though, even in the immediate term. Anarchists prefer organizing in horizontal/leaderless groups, whereas MLs use democratic centralism as their organizational method. Obviously I'm in favour of the latter, having seen how horizontal organizing plays out in practice.
For instance, a number of comrades of mine were quite active in Dutch antifa circles, which at the moment are quite anarchist-dominated (and mostly young people overall). And it's truly baffling to see how easily they could take control over the entire black bloc: if they took some initiative they'd have the entire group run behind them, and then I'd see dozens of anarchists running after 2 MLs. This really made both me and them realise how easily people with bad intent could guide such a group in the wrong direction. I've also been involved in other non-anarchist horizontal organisations, and I've seen how easily the ideal of not having authority would lead to people to abuse their authority - because the supposed horizontal nature of the group meant there were no systems in place to hold actually-existing power accountable.
Now, this is where we start to diverge: having seen how several anarchist and non-anarchist "organizations" function, there's *no way* I'm ever going back to organizations I perceive as unorganized and without any (democratic) accountability structures. Democratic centralism helps in that regard, in my opinion, especially if implemented according to the circumstances. The other way around, democratic centralism will be seen by many anarchists as (illegitimately) authoritarian, and anarchists would probably never join such an organization.
That is just one way in which we can already see how having the same goals leads to very different ways of achieving them.
Sorry for that long divergence/introduction, haha. Onto the "after the communist revolution" part. There are several (unstructured) ideas I have about this:
First, Marxism is an ever-evolving science, and in my opinion later revolutionaries have certainly learned from the experiences, failures and successes of previous experiments - most notably from the USSR. Look at the Chinese treatment of [Aisin-Gioro Puyi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puyi), for instance. Obviously this is used for propaganda purposes, but still: I can't imagine this having taken place in the USSR, or during the French Revolution, for instance, so there is at least *some* progress there. I'd imagine (and hope) that current-day revolutionaries continue where they left off, and try to reform as many (potential) contra-revolutionaries as possible rather than guillotine or gulag *all* of them.
Second, Socialist states have always been under immediate attack from the capitalist-imperialist class, like how the USSR was invaded by 19 (?) Western countries in 1919 (?), just one year after the imperialists had finished slaughtering each other in WW1. This constant attack has made socialist states very fragile and, as such, has necessitated (at least in the minds of communists) pretty strict control. Historically, a lot of anarchists have shown themselves to be against authority indiscriminately, whether or not it's capitalist or socialist. And even though the intention of those anarchists under a socialists is probably to work towards a communist society, their actions could lead to a destabilisation of the socialist order and thereby inadvertedly aid the capitalist-imperialist forces' reinstatement of the old, in communists' opinions much more reactionary order. Some anarchists are likely to repeat this in (the fragile state of) new socialist states, and they are likely to be repressed once again - though I'd hope with a softer hand, as mentioned in the previous point. At the very least I think this way because it seems to me that violently repressing anarchists is generally counterproductive: this will only convince other not-yet-militant anarchists that the socialist regime is unjust, and lead to further escalation and an irreperable schism.
Third, it seems to me that capitalism-imperialism has reached it peak in terms of power, and I think it's therefore feasible that future socialist revolutions will have an easier time resisting contra-revolution. It's either socialism or extinction at this point, in my opinion, and I'm gonna assume here that the next few decades will see socialist revolution take over much of the globe (in which case this discussion is also most relevant). The first few 'new' revolutions will likely still face a lot of counterrevolutionary force, but sooner or later capitalism-imperialism will be weakened and stretched out to such an extent that it can't handle everything at once anymore, leading to less of necessity for total control by the leading communist party.
Fourth, for communists to even succeed in leading a revolution at this point, I think it's essential to learn from socialism's history, and I'm seeing good signs of people learning from both the successes and failures of the USSR, China, and other socialist experiments. Look at [this review](https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/18th-Congress-Resolution-on-Socialism/) of the USSR by the Communist Party of Greece, for instance, to see how people look at that time. Or see how the CPC under Xi Jinping is cracking down on corruption and bureacratic thinking within the Party and the Chinese government. Further lessons are obviously to be learned here, but (similar to point 1) I hope (and think it's absolutely necessary for the revolution to succeed) that future revolutionaries learn from those mistakes, create a state that is no more bureaucratic than needed and as democratic as possible. By that, I think they will lessen the contradiction between anarchists and the socialist states, thereby leading to much less of an antagonistic relationship between the two.
So basically, I think that militant anti-communist anarchists **will** continue to be repressed, but I think and hope (for the sake of both anarchists and the socialist state) that this repression will be of a much different kind, I hope that less of it will be needed overall, and I think that anarchists will see less of a need to resist socialist states because of their further development.
On top of that, I hope (but am not really sure, since I'm not that deep into current-day anarchism) that anarchists will play a generally constructive role within socialist states. Key to this is the question of whether or not anarchists will (be able to) recognize the more progressive nature of a socialist state in comparison to the capitalist state, and whether they will continue to recognize the contra-revolutionary forces as a larger threat than the socialist revolutionaries.
And to end my long comment, those anarchists that will do well in a socialist state are likely to be the ones that are asking questions such as the one you're asking. It is my hope that there will be many of those, and it is my hope that they will be able to play constructive (but obviously distinct) roles in the long march towards communism. Many of the anarchism's ideals are absolutely essential to the survival of a socialist state, in my opinion, including working-class unity across lines of race, gender, sex and ability. Further, in order to efficiently control the means of production and to increase the amount of control people have over society in general, the general improvement of people (the creation of "a new human", as people like Che Guevara have named it) is absolutely essential. This will include educating ourselves and eachother, making decisions collectively, et cetera. Ultimately, the democratically centralized state and the locally-organized people exist in a dialectical unity, and the failure of either is likely to doom the revolution (one just has to look at the USSR to see that). This is possibly best demonstrated in the case of Venezuela, for instance: the people themselves, organized in neighbourhood committees, were responsible for getting Hugo Chávez back in power after the 2002 coup.
When my car has been running, and is warmed up, if it snows the engine heat melts snow for a little but in the shape of an A. two occasions I noticed it.
Made some propaganda with Midjourney.
Booze CruisingDoes Anarchism support drink driving. Not like you have much choice 😜
FYI: This is simply a hypothetical situation. I do not support drink driving. If you think you or a loved one has a drinking problem, then look at the following link: https://www.usa.gov/mental-health-substance-abuse
POST-CAPITALISM: A Detailed Look at How It Could Work
**About the Video**
This video explains two alternatives to capitalism, one libertarian-socialist and one fully communist, and each with no market and no state or central planning – making them unlike the economic system of any country on Earth.
Topics include:
• How can an economic system function without money or the profit motive?
• How can supply and demand be balanced without a market or state planning?
• How can we provide free public goods and services in a society with no state and no taxation?
• How can we avoid overconsumption?
• How can we encourage people to do necessary work, even work that’s unappealing?
• How can people start new enterprises?
• How can an economic system encourage environment sustainability?
Discussing all this and more!
https://youtu.be/AuC7Qmk7TfA
Sources on Revolutionary Catalonia 1936–39?Hi, currently writing a paper on the autonomously governed anarchist Barcelona and Catalonia in general. Looking for sources/reports on this topic as well as any historical documentation
I don't have my sources with me right now, but yes, basically anarchists were always specifically hunted by socialist states along with all other leftists not specifically subscribing to this ideology. Examples: USSR and the black army, Maoist China specifically killed anarchists, same with Cuba. The USSR undermined and even killed the Anarcho communist revolution in the Spanish civil war instead supporting a capitalist democracy, which is probably the peak ridiculousness.
Liberal countries are usually ok with voicing opposition, which makes organizing way easier.
nah im just saying if you agree with total anarchic states then you have to agree with that. prove me wrong thats why i went straight for the extreme
This is almost impressively braindead.
Also, good to know that you'd immediately rape children if there wasn't a law against it. Most people would probably have other priorities, but you just went straight for it, huh?
violence is always gonna happen but i mean are you okay with total anarchy or do you agree some laws are justified
so taking matters into your own hands over a moral “law” (loosely using law bc everyone should know thats a no go) wouldnt that be policing? like im really curious on how yall see things but to an outsider it looks hypocritical. like im all for lining rapist and pedos up on a wall and killing them but that would make you the judge, jury, and executioner so wouldnt that be supporting a judicial system?
The Mosuo people of China are an example of a non-patriarchal society that is still non-patriarchal today[3]. The Mosuo are a matrilineal society, meaning that property and family names are passed down through the female line[1]. Women have increased autonomy and excellent social support within this community, which has been linked to better health outcomes for women[2]. In the Mosuo culture, women are in charge of politics, economics, and decision-making[1]. This is not to say that men and women necessarily have the same roles; rather, gender roles are more fluid and egalitarian than in patriarchal societies[3].
[List of matriarchal societies](https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/g28565280/matriarchal-societies-list)
[Matriarchal societies](https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/02/women-matriarchal-society-improved-health-patriarchy)
[Smashing the patriarchy](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/nov/02/smashing-the-patriarchy-why-theres-nothing-natural-about-male-supremacy)
How to rate Black Guards
**Black Guards** ([Russian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language): Чёрная гвардия, *Chjornaya gvardiya*) were armed groups of workers formed after the [February Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution) and before the [final Bolshevik suppression of other leftwing groups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_uprisings_against_the_Bolsheviks). They were the main strike force of the [anarchists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism). They were created in the Summer of 1917 in Ukraine by [Maria Nikiforova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Nikiforova), and expanded in January 1918 to Moscow, under the control of anarchists at industrial enterprises by Factory and Plant Committees and by [Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Federation_of_Anarchist_Groups) cells.[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-ROSSPEN216-1)[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin93-2)
## History[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=1)]
### Origin[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=2)]
📷Black guards organizing during the start of the Russian Revolution against the Bolsheviks.
Russian anarchists opposed the creation of a regular [Red Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army) with the call "To arms!" and the widespread organization of rebel committees with the aim of [total arming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms) of the populace. The anarchist press of [Petrograd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrograd), [Moscow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow) and other large centers carried out massive agitation with the aim of creating free fighting squads of the "Black Guard". As the newspaper *Burevestnik*, the organ of the Petrograd Federation, wrote:
>“Those gentlemen are cruelly mistaken, thinking that the real revolution is already over, that now all that remains is to consolidate those disgusting gains that went to the working people. No! The real revolution, the social revolution, the liberator of the working people of all countries, is just beginning.”[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov14-3)
[Maria Nikiforova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Nikiforova) organized the Black Guards' first unit. Nikiforova, often known by her nickname Marusya, was a Ukrainian anarchist organiser who put together the first Black Guards cell in the city of Alexandrovsk in Ukraine. Nikiforova started the first Black Guards cell in an attempt to force land reform and wealth redistribution to fruition. Nikiforova, a self-proclaimed terrorist, directed her unit of Black Guards to terrorize the Alexandrovsk local government in order to achieve the political change she desired. Later similar cells were established by [Nestor Makhno](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_Makhno) throughout other portions of Ukraine. Makhno, during the revolution, seized land and distributed wealth among the peasants.[\[4\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-4)
The strength of the Black Guard quickly grew, which was noted, in particular, by the Deputy Chairman of the Cheka [Jēkabs Peterss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%93kabs_Peterss).[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov14-3) In addition, by [March 1918](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1918), anarchists controlled 25 mansions in Moscow,[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) and some of them were located near strategically important points of the city.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6) Since the relations between the allies in the revolutionary camp, the [Bolsheviks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks) and the [anarchists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Russia), were gradually aggravated, they prepared for future clashes.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6) According to the [Cheka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka), an anarchist action against the Bolsheviks was scheduled for [April 18](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_18),[\[a\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Rumor-8) and therefore it was decided to launch a preemptive strike, disarming the Black Guard units.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6)
### Suppression in Russia[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=3)]
On the night of April 11, 1918, [Felix Dzerzhinsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinsky), director of the [Cheka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka), had a force of approximately 5,000 Soviet troops attack the anarchist headquarters in Moscow.[\[8\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-9)[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Dubovik-10) Anarchists returned fire, with the help of artillery, but the Bolsheviks suppressed resistance on Donskaya Street and entered into a firefight on Povarskaya Street. The last stronghold of the Black Guard was the Zeitlin mansion, which was taken by 12 noon, and in general, the fighting between the forces of the Cheka and the anarchists stopped by 2 PM.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) As a result of this operation, the Bolsheviks killed 40 anarchists, some of whom were shot on the spot. In addition, 10 to 12 security officers and soldiers were killed in the fighting.[\[10\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin236-11)
Recalling these events, the Russian anarchist [Vsevolod Volin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Volin) wrote in his book *The Unknown Revolution*:
>\[O\]n the night of [April 12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_12), under a false and absurd pretext, \[the quarters of\] all the Anarchist organizations in Moscow — and principally those of the Federation of Anarchist Groups in that city — were attacked and sacked by troops and the police force. For several hours the capital took on the appearance of a city in a state of siege. Even artillery took part in the “action”.
This operation served as a signal for the sacking of the libertarian organizations in nearly all the important cities of Russia. And as always the provincial authorities exceeded in zeal those in the capital.
[Leon Trotsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky), who for two weeks had prepared the blow, and who had carried out in person, among the regiments, an unbridled agitation against the “anarcho-bandits”, had the satisfaction of being able to make his famous declaration: “At last the Soviet government, with an iron broom, has rid Russia of Anarchism.”[\[11\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-12)
After the defeat of the Black Guard in Moscow, a search was carried out of the mansions seized from the anarchists, in some of which gold was found. The Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups was accused of having links with criminals and about 500 people were arrested.[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Dubovik-10)[\[12\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin96-13) At the same time, Dzerzhinsky, commenting on what happened, noted:
>We in no way had in mind and did not want to fight the ideological anarchists. And at the present time, we are releasing all the ideological anarchists who were detained on the night of April 12, and if, perhaps, some of them will be brought to justice, it will only be for covering up crimes committed by criminal elements that have infiltrated anarchist organizations. There are very few ideological anarchists among the people detained by us, and only a few among hundreds.”[\[13\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-14)[\[14\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin231-15)
The events in Moscow were the signal for the beginning of the struggle in the regions. On the morning of [April 12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_12), in the town of [Gorodets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorodets,_Nizhny_Novgorod_Oblast), the anarchists, headed by the chairman of the city council, began a struggle against the Bolsheviks. With the support of [armored cars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_car_(military)), they captured [Novocherkassk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk) and began to hunt down the Bolsheviks. The center of the anarchists in the [Volga region](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_region) was [Samara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara),[\[15\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-16) where during the April “disarmament” the detachments managed to hide their weapons. At the end of April, the Samara Black Guard "flying" detachment of Smorodinov (made up of 600 militants with armored cars) captured the city of [Buguruslan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buguruslan). The struggle of the anarchists against the Bolsheviks in the Volga region lasted all [April](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_1918) and [May](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1918). In [Kursk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk), the anarchists revolted and held the city on [April 10](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_10)\-[29](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_29), 1918. On [May 9](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_9), the Commissariat of Internal Affairs sent a directive to all provincial Soviets: “The experience of Moscow, Petrograd and other cities has proved that hooligans, thieves, robbers and counter-revolutionaries are hiding behind the flag of anarchist organizations, they are secretly preparing the overthrow of Soviet power... Disarm all the squads and organizations of the anarchists. Anyone can have a weapon only with the permission of the local Soviets" (Izvestia No. 91, 05/10/18). However, on [May 17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17), the anarchists, in alliance with the [maximalists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Socialists-Revolutionaries_Maximalists), spearheaded a new uprising in Samara.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) The remaining presence of the Black Guards was significantly weakened by their own internal divisions and lack of organization. Russian revolutionary writer Victor Serge, who was initially part of anarchist movement, believed that much of the Black Guards real capacities was "wasted on small and chaotic struggles."[\[16\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-17)
### Militarization in Ukraine[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=4)]
Ultimately the legacy of the Black Guards was its serving as a model for the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine, otherwise known as the Black Army. Following the [Treaty of Brest-Litovsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk), Nestor Makhno formed a Black Guards unit in Ukraine that would later grow into what was formally known as the [Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Insurgent_Army_of_Ukraine) (RIAU). The RIAU may have been considered a continuation of the Black Guards if it were not on a far larger, more organized, and unified scale.
## Characteristics of the Black Guard[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=5)]
The anarchists understood that criminals, people who were not tested for reliability, would only harm them, especially since the situation was heating up. Therefore, the ranks of the Black Guard were purged from unreliable elements, and the admission into its ranks was tougher. On [April 4](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_4), a request was received from the headquarters of the Black Guard to provide lists of all persons belonging to the Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups. Militants were only admitted to the Black Guard on the recommendation of either local groups; three members of the Federation; [Factory committees](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_committees); or District Councils.
The Black Guard was created as an alternative to traditional army structures, and it set about training detachments that could operate in partisan conditions. Instead of a disciplined integral army, the anarchists created a number of disciplined squads, acting not in formation, not in open battle, not by military etiquette, but by guerrilla detachments of raiders and terrorists.These detachments were created with the aim of “securing the conquests already taken from the teeth of the bourgeoisie who had gone underground and from the raids of the international gold monopoly in the White Guard uniform. These units were supposed to replace the militant groups accustomed to operating in [tsarist Russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire), whose usual practice was expropriation, terrorist acts against the police - "[propaganda by the deed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_by_the_deed)" - by forming permanent anarchist units. At the same time, the Black Guard was not supposed to participate in searches, arrests and other similar actions, since this was considered the prerogative of the Red Guard.
Testing Midjourney (AI), I took the opportunity to create images of Bakunin and Bakunin with Marx
Would it be easier to be an anarchist under socialism/communism?Obviously, there are some tensions between anarchists and communists.
Rn I'm talking about the part of the tension caused by anarchists disagreeing with the dictatorship of the proletariat element of socialist/communist thought. Anarchists obviously tend to point to the corrupting nature of hierarchy as a reason not to 'use the state'.
It strikes me though, as someone with years of affinity towards anarchism (I currently transcend labels 🙄), that all of the things anarchists want to do would be much easier in a communist/socialist society than they are today, under full liberalism.
It seems obvious that anarchism would be more popular and easier to practice in a society of socialists and communists, rather than a society of liberals and fascists, who are the majority of my neighbours today.
Am I too naive in believing that the wonderful modern communists I know wouldn't 'kill all the anarchists' like the old trope?
And isn't the communist 'withering of the state' the exact process described in anarchist 'dual power' theory?
Are anarchists and MLs soul mates they just don't realize it?? Haha. This thought came up on a post in this subreddit that was deleted earlier today, so I thought I'd just ask what people think
Ends and MeansDisclaimer 1: was struggling to come up with a succinct title, this is not a proper essay because I don’t have the time or energy for that, but I wanted to start a discussion. As usual my thoughts are probably a bit all over the place, so apologies for that.
Disclaimer 2: this conversation is pretty closely related to discussions of electoralism, but try not to spend too much time on that in the comments because of the rules against it. (The irony is not lost on me, but not the point of the post to complain about that rule)
I started thinking about this after seeing a post where a white nationalist in Denmark was punched in the face for burning a Quran, and in light of what’s happening in Memphis I think it’s especially relevant.
(For context on the first situation, there was a lot of whining in the comments about free speech and how violence is never the answer blah blah. For moderate leftists there’s an interesting discussion there about how they’d have a legal system that supports freedom of speech while avoiding the paradox of tolerance, but as someone who doesn’t support laws as a concept, i don’t need to have a ‘consistent’ view on them. if they happen to align with my values than good, if not then fuck them.)
As anarchists, how do you feel about using, or even ‘expanding’, the state to accomplish specific goals.
What I mean is, pretty much no one here supports prisons or punitive justice, but I’m not exactly losing sleep over the Jan. 6th crowd getting into legal trouble.
Though there is a discussion to be had about how right being extremism is used as a weapon against radicalism in general. FE: the nationalistic response to Jan. 6th by liberals, which reminds me a bit of the response to 9/11.
Something I find a bit more interesting (from a ‘theory’ standpoint) would be actually expanding the state’s influence with things like UBI and universal healthcare. For me personally, I don’t particularly care about ‘ideological purity’ or anything like that, so while it seems to be pretty objectively unanarchist to advocate for those things, I’ll do it anyway because at the end of the day the goal is to improve people’s lives.
And of course, there is no reason why you can’t support those systems (for a given definition of support, as I think we would all like to see them dismantled at some point) while also participating in Mutual Aid.
The obvious counter argument is the accelerationist one, that reform only perpetuates the systems other flaws because non radical activists will be placated, does have some merit imo, but from a more utilitarian viewpoint I think it’s worth it if people can live substantially better lives.
That’s the main counter that comes to mind for me, but I’m not saying it’s the only one or even a particularly good one. I’m interested to hear what you guys have to say about this.
101 years after the formal destruction of the Anarchist movement in Russia and they are now haunted by a specter they thought they had buried an eon ago.
Like a Rose from the crack of the concrete, the struggle blossoms again.
*" You cannot conduct war with equals; you cannot have militarism with free born men; you must have slaves, automatons, machines, obedient disciplined creatures, who will move, act, shoot and kill at the command of their superiors. That is preparedness, and nothing else "*
- Emma Goldman
Let the war end soon, and let a flower bloom in our backyards sooner.
What is wrong with you lol
New here. In an anarchic commune, who do you call if someone sexually assaults you, or robs your home at gunpoint, or sucker punches you while drinking? Assuming tat the institution of Police is not necessary, do anarchists propose that crime is also not a thing and virtually every crime is basically, a private dispute between two individuals? Won't the weak be pushed into starvation in such a society?
How to rate Black Guards
**Black Guards** ([Russian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language): Чёрная гвардия, *Chjornaya gvardiya*) were armed groups of workers formed after the [February Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_Revolution) and before the [final Bolshevik suppression of other leftwing groups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_uprisings_against_the_Bolsheviks). They were the main strike force of the [anarchists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism). They were created in the Summer of 1917 in Ukraine by [Maria Nikiforova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Nikiforova), and expanded in January 1918 to Moscow, under the control of anarchists at industrial enterprises by Factory and Plant Committees and by [Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Federation_of_Anarchist_Groups) cells.[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-ROSSPEN216-1)[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin93-2)
## History[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=1)]
### Origin[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=2)]
📷Black guards organizing during the start of the Russian Revolution against the Bolsheviks.
Russian anarchists opposed the creation of a regular [Red Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army) with the call "To arms!" and the widespread organization of rebel committees with the aim of [total arming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms) of the populace. The anarchist press of [Petrograd](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrograd), [Moscow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow) and other large centers carried out massive agitation with the aim of creating free fighting squads of the "Black Guard". As the newspaper *Burevestnik*, the organ of the Petrograd Federation, wrote:
>“Those gentlemen are cruelly mistaken, thinking that the real revolution is already over, that now all that remains is to consolidate those disgusting gains that went to the working people. No! The real revolution, the social revolution, the liberator of the working people of all countries, is just beginning.”[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov14-3)
[Maria Nikiforova](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Nikiforova) organized the Black Guards' first unit. Nikiforova, often known by her nickname Marusya, was a Ukrainian anarchist organiser who put together the first Black Guards cell in the city of Alexandrovsk in Ukraine. Nikiforova started the first Black Guards cell in an attempt to force land reform and wealth redistribution to fruition. Nikiforova, a self-proclaimed terrorist, directed her unit of Black Guards to terrorize the Alexandrovsk local government in order to achieve the political change she desired. Later similar cells were established by [Nestor Makhno](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_Makhno) throughout other portions of Ukraine. Makhno, during the revolution, seized land and distributed wealth among the peasants.[\[4\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-4)
The strength of the Black Guard quickly grew, which was noted, in particular, by the Deputy Chairman of the Cheka [Jēkabs Peterss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%93kabs_Peterss).[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov14-3) In addition, by [March 1918](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1918), anarchists controlled 25 mansions in Moscow,[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) and some of them were located near strategically important points of the city.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6) Since the relations between the allies in the revolutionary camp, the [Bolsheviks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks) and the [anarchists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Russia), were gradually aggravated, they prepared for future clashes.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6) According to the [Cheka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka), an anarchist action against the Bolsheviks was scheduled for [April 18](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_18),[\[a\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Rumor-8) and therefore it was decided to launch a preemptive strike, disarming the Black Guard units.[\[6\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin94-6)
### Suppression in Russia[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=3)]
On the night of April 11, 1918, [Felix Dzerzhinsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinsky), director of the [Cheka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka), had a force of approximately 5,000 Soviet troops attack the anarchist headquarters in Moscow.[\[8\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-9)[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Dubovik-10) Anarchists returned fire, with the help of artillery, but the Bolsheviks suppressed resistance on Donskaya Street and entered into a firefight on Povarskaya Street. The last stronghold of the Black Guard was the Zeitlin mansion, which was taken by 12 noon, and in general, the fighting between the forces of the Cheka and the anarchists stopped by 2 PM.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) As a result of this operation, the Bolsheviks killed 40 anarchists, some of whom were shot on the spot. In addition, 10 to 12 security officers and soldiers were killed in the fighting.[\[10\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin236-11)
Recalling these events, the Russian anarchist [Vsevolod Volin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Volin) wrote in his book *The Unknown Revolution*:
>\[O\]n the night of [April 12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_12), under a false and absurd pretext, \[the quarters of\] all the Anarchist organizations in Moscow — and principally those of the Federation of Anarchist Groups in that city — were attacked and sacked by troops and the police force. For several hours the capital took on the appearance of a city in a state of siege. Even artillery took part in the “action”.
This operation served as a signal for the sacking of the libertarian organizations in nearly all the important cities of Russia. And as always the provincial authorities exceeded in zeal those in the capital.
[Leon Trotsky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky), who for two weeks had prepared the blow, and who had carried out in person, among the regiments, an unbridled agitation against the “anarcho-bandits”, had the satisfaction of being able to make his famous declaration: “At last the Soviet government, with an iron broom, has rid Russia of Anarchism.”[\[11\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-12)
After the defeat of the Black Guard in Moscow, a search was carried out of the mansions seized from the anarchists, in some of which gold was found. The Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups was accused of having links with criminals and about 500 people were arrested.[\[9\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Dubovik-10)[\[12\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin96-13) At the same time, Dzerzhinsky, commenting on what happened, noted:
>We in no way had in mind and did not want to fight the ideological anarchists. And at the present time, we are releasing all the ideological anarchists who were detained on the night of April 12, and if, perhaps, some of them will be brought to justice, it will only be for covering up crimes committed by criminal elements that have infiltrated anarchist organizations. There are very few ideological anarchists among the people detained by us, and only a few among hundreds.”[\[13\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-14)[\[14\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Shubin231-15)
The events in Moscow were the signal for the beginning of the struggle in the regions. On the morning of [April 12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_12), in the town of [Gorodets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorodets,_Nizhny_Novgorod_Oblast), the anarchists, headed by the chairman of the city council, began a struggle against the Bolsheviks. With the support of [armored cars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_car_(military)), they captured [Novocherkassk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novocherkassk) and began to hunt down the Bolsheviks. The center of the anarchists in the [Volga region](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_region) was [Samara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samara),[\[15\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-16) where during the April “disarmament” the detachments managed to hide their weapons. At the end of April, the Samara Black Guard "flying" detachment of Smorodinov (made up of 600 militants with armored cars) captured the city of [Buguruslan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buguruslan). The struggle of the anarchists against the Bolsheviks in the Volga region lasted all [April](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_1918) and [May](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1918). In [Kursk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk), the anarchists revolted and held the city on [April 10](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_10)\-[29](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_29), 1918. On [May 9](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_9), the Commissariat of Internal Affairs sent a directive to all provincial Soviets: “The experience of Moscow, Petrograd and other cities has proved that hooligans, thieves, robbers and counter-revolutionaries are hiding behind the flag of anarchist organizations, they are secretly preparing the overthrow of Soviet power... Disarm all the squads and organizations of the anarchists. Anyone can have a weapon only with the permission of the local Soviets" (Izvestia No. 91, 05/10/18). However, on [May 17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_17), the anarchists, in alliance with the [maximalists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Socialists-Revolutionaries_Maximalists), spearheaded a new uprising in Samara.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-Azarov15-5) The remaining presence of the Black Guards was significantly weakened by their own internal divisions and lack of organization. Russian revolutionary writer Victor Serge, who was initially part of anarchist movement, believed that much of the Black Guards real capacities was "wasted on small and chaotic struggles."[\[16\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guards#cite_note-17)
### Militarization in Ukraine[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=4)]
Ultimately the legacy of the Black Guards was its serving as a model for the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine, otherwise known as the Black Army. Following the [Treaty of Brest-Litovsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk), Nestor Makhno formed a Black Guards unit in Ukraine that would later grow into what was formally known as the [Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Insurgent_Army_of_Ukraine) (RIAU). The RIAU may have been considered a continuation of the Black Guards if it were not on a far larger, more organized, and unified scale.
## Characteristics of the Black Guard[[edit](https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Guards&action=edit§ion=5)]
The anarchists understood that criminals, people who were not tested for reliability, would only harm them, especially since the situation was heating up. Therefore, the ranks of the Black Guard were purged from unreliable elements, and the admission into its ranks was tougher. On [April 4](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_4), a request was received from the headquarters of the Black Guard to provide lists of all persons belonging to the Moscow Federation of Anarchist Groups. Militants were only admitted to the Black Guard on the recommendation of either local groups; three members of the Federation; [Factory committees](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_committees); or District Councils.
The Black Guard was created as an alternative to traditional army structures, and it set about training detachments that could operate in partisan conditions. Instead of a disciplined integral army, the anarchists created a number of disciplined squads, acting not in formation, not in open battle, not by military etiquette, but by guerrilla detachments of raiders and terrorists.These detachments were created with the aim of “securing the conquests already taken from the teeth of the bourgeoisie who had gone underground and from the raids of the international gold monopoly in the White Guard uniform. These units were supposed to replace the militant groups accustomed to operating in [tsarist Russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire), whose usual practice was expropriation, terrorist acts against the police - "[propaganda by the deed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_by_the_deed)" - by forming permanent anarchist units. At the same time, the Black Guard was not supposed to participate in searches, arrests and other similar actions, since this was considered the prerogative of the Red Guard.
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In the US, the term "community policing" refers to a post 1960s attempt by the police to engrain themselves in communities in order to win back support that was lost during the civil rights movement. Today we see programs like DARE, or police hosting sporting events, or 'National Night Out,' these are all the result of community policing programs - that went hand in hand with the growth of counter-insurgency measures such as 'broken windows policing. Check out this article by anarchist author Kristian Williams on Counter-Insurgency and 'Community Policing.' : [https://revolutionaryfrontlines.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/the-other-side-of-the-coin-counterinsurgency-and-community-policing/](https://revolutionaryfrontlines.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/the-other-side-of-the-coin-counterinsurgency-and-community-policing/)
As for things called the 'community police,' there are things in Mexico that have evolved called that, many of which are connected to autonomous indigenous movements, that often involved communities kicking out state forces and creating a volunteer defense force, sometimes named the 'community police.' The autonomous town of Cheran that kicked out police, cartels and political parties has a community police force for example.
Podcast on IGD here dives into this: [https://itsgoingdown](https://itsgoingdown) \[dot\] org/igdcast-scott-campbell-narco-state-eco-extremism-popular-resistance-mexico/
Damn white supremacists
If they admit that at least a third of those killed didnt even have guns, I wouldnt be surprised if no one had guns and theyre just pulling their PR speak. By default you should treat the word of the Israeli Military as a lie unless they have evidence.
Well all of the people killed were confirmed terrorists except for one innocent woman who got caught in the crossfire. The first three were part of the cell they were trying to stop.
this isnt actually the direction (arguing about semantics) i want the discussion to go into, so i will conceed this point to you
to clarify: reason is subjective, if they have a reason, say to apprehend alleged terrorist as Israel might claim, this is a reason. If i read an article claiming "killed people for no reason" i expect to read something like: soldiers shooting at civilians because they were bored, not a planned military operation that goes south
It's not even about *their* choice not to label themselves -- it's the police (and the media) following suit.
And frankly I think it's because there is *so* much bleed-over of right-wing and fascist ideology into traditionally conservative "bürgerliche" circles. They *know* they're sitting down with Nazis. They keep on meeting up at the same protests and events! But the conservatives (among whom are many people in power, including police) know that it's death at the polls to acknowledge that overlap, plus it's going to alarm and maybe activate people, and that they're only going to be able to maintain semi-plausible deniability if they *insist* on making distinctions like "bürgerliches Milieu" vs. "Rechtsextrem," even though it should be clear to everyone that in reality those terms are in *no* way mutually exclusive. And because major politicians and police spokespeople and so forth keep insisting on the distinction, a lot of media isn't just accepting it but also furthering the narrative.
There are a lot of interests that are well-served by downplaying the threat of fascism and neo-Nazism. And it's considerably less alarming for the public to read "there were a lot of middle-class conservatives present and also a few neo-Nazis and football hooligans," rather than "there were 600-700 racists and neo-Nazis." All of that means we're going to keep reading about the artificial distinctions between "bürgerlich" and "rechtsextrem."
I kind of hope they get off easy like WHITE cops do
Anarcho-communism is an oxymoron.
The very long story short is no. People already share, but the state enforces private ownership of property and means of production which means we play by their roles because they have guns and they'll shoot us. If we get rid of the state and private ownership (the anarcho and communist portions of anarcho-communism respectively) people will be able to provide for one another via mutual aid, common ownership, and living fulfilling lives rather than struggling with jobs they hate but have to keep working to keep a roof over their head.
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Yes. If everyone only gets a certain amount of food, i'm taking double.
I like food and want more than i need. If it's too much i'll throw it out. Better than not having enough.
¡Gracias! Lo haré.
¡Gracias! Lo haré.
Right... There's those governments willingly giving up power everywhere!
Hey remember that time in seattle when a few blocks actually went full anarchy and so many people got robbed and shot they couldn't keep it going for more than a month?
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I don't think I understand anarchism, can someone please clarify some things?please feel free to correct anything I say wrong, I'm posting this because anarchism doesn't make sense to me
also please don't mistake me for a politically and socially illiterate right winger
my understanding of anarchism is that anarchists want to (often violently) tear down capitalism and replace it with just having no government. the idea I've seen people say about that is that if the government is torn down then people will naturally govern themselves, going on neighborhood watches black panther style, etc.
what I get caught up on about that is how that idea isn't having no government, it's rebuilding a much more lax one and giving more power to citizens. if I'm correct, then what anarchists ACTUALLY want is a government reset, not an absence of government.
and thats true than I think just refining the government would be way easier than building it from scratch
I'm fairly sure I must be getting something wrong, does anyone mind clarifying?
I don't think I understand anarchism, can someone please clarify some things?please feel free to correct anything I say wrong, I'm posting this because anarchism doesn't make sense to me
also please don't mistake me for a politically and socially illiterate right winger
my understanding of anarchism is that anarchists want to (often violently) tear down capitalism and replace it with just having no government. the idea I've seen people say about that is that if the government is torn down then people will naturally govern themselves, going on neighborhood watches black panther style, etc.
what I get caught up on about that is how that idea isn't having no government, it's rebuilding a much more lax one and giving more power to citizens. if I'm correct, then what anarchists ACTUALLY want is a government reset, not an absence of government.
and thats true than I think just refining the government would be way easier than building it from scratch
I'm fairly sure I must be getting something wrong, does anyone mind clarifying?
So a bit of nuance is required here. Government is how one organizes a society. A state is a monopoly by force on government. We are anti-state not anti-government as we do want to organize society. Also a rather important aspect of social revolution is education and popular support which must be built before. If we can organize the basics and be the dominant organizing principle then a large amount of society would just follow along.
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So a bit of nuance is required here. Government is how one organizes a society. A state is a monopoly by force on government. We are anti-state not anti-government as we do want to organize society. Also a rather important aspect of social revolution is education and popular support which must be built before. If we can organize the basics and be the dominant organizing principle then a large amount of society would just follow along.
I'm not sure what orifice you pulled "spontaneously" out of and id rather not find out tbh. Dont think anyone missed you ducking the question that proved your "oxymoron" rubbish to be just what it was BTW. Why not try learning things before spouting a load of rubbish, instead of afterwards?
Its more of a set of principles to strive towards. It probably won't be possible in our lifetimes as there's too many selfish and morally devoid a-holes out there but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get as close as possible. I mean, its not like there wouldn't be justice for people refused to stop taking more than they needed and essentially stealing from the community.
The alternative is greed expressed as a economic idiology, thats incompatible with the conditions for it not to demand perpetual growth on a the very finite planet its currently "killing" and thats about as smart as a box of rocks.
¿Hay una sub para la izquierda en México?
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The word "bürgerlich" is a bit difficult to translate. "Bürger" has two different French equivalents: citoyen (engl. citizen) and bourgeois. In politics, the attribute "bürgerlich" usually means center-right or bourgeois, so conservatives (CDU/CSU) and liberals (FDP). But that's usually middle class or petit bourgeois people, not really the richer people you may think of first when you hear bourgeois in English.
In this context, it means something like "center right", "political center", or even just "non-radical ordinary citizens". That kind of idea.
I know you’re angry so I’ll preface this by saying that I am just as angry at that man and the current state of our police force. But thinking without logic is a big prob here. Sure, in a perfect world cops wouldn’t be needed, but right now we have a big ol gapping hole in our chest spurting blood everywhere and the only thing we have left to patch it up is a dirty rag. Until we can not only determine but also fully implement a system in which maniacs are stopped at the root, the wound will have to be covered up with what we got right now or shit’ll get a whole lot worse. You are absolutely right to have all that anger! But don’t tear off one of the linen keeping you alive before you have something better, let it drive your mind to pick up higher forms of activism. March because you’re fighting for a plan, not because you are mad. Martin Luther King was killed because he had a plan, and just having that plan with the will of so many people is what made him unstoppable against corporate America.
Errico Malatesta used to say: _"Non v'è Stato senza gendarmeria"_ ("a State cannot exist without a police force").
Police is going to be abolished once the State itself will be.
My own personal story of radicalization: My disillusion with liberalism and social democracy. Can anyone relate?As anyone who has read any of my more personal posts, I used to be a liberal. I've always been a particularly political person, and a deeply passionate one at that, so I was always passionate about liberalism,
I was actively anti-socialist as well. Partly because I thought socialism = WhEn ThE gOvErNmEnT controls everything and partially because it felt inherently authoritarian to me (obviously, my opinions on this have changed). What has been strong throughout all of my politics is a very strong distrust of centralized authority, my deepest political principle has always been anti-authoritarianism.
I was also an entrepreneurial type. Or at least I wanted to be anyways. My thinking was that, since the rich lobby politicians, if I could become rich then I would be able to lobby politicians and pass like pro-lgbtq+ stuff or civil rights programs, expanded welfare, etc. I always believed that if I had money, I would have power, and I would use that power wisely and fight the good fight. Please note, that it didn't occur to me how fundamentally elitist and anti-democratic this mindset was until much later. Fuck the rich.
Then, I started learning what the rich were actually like. I've always heard the phrase "money corrupts" but I had no idea how true that really was.
Here's some videos on the insane and abusive shit rich asshats get up to: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXyzDxxQRSA&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXyzDxxQRSA&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=10), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ce2HcQpZU&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ce2HcQpZU&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=13), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn548uALuYw&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn548uALuYw&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=16)
The rich are regularly able to abuse regular people cause they'll just buy their silence. And it costs nothing for them. The poor can sue, they can speak out, but the rich have PR teams, the best lawyers in the world. They will almost always get away with it.
And that's what struck me. I was right when I understood that money -> power. What really corrupts is power. The ability to get or get away with whatever you wanted.
And deep down, I don't trust myself with that power. And if I don't trust MYSELF with it, despite my constant moral handwringing, why the fuck should I trust some rich asshat with it?
That's what really broke liberalism for me. The notion that massive accumulation of personal wealth is ok so long as everyone gets basic necessities. That economic inequality, in and of itself, isn't the problem, poverty is. That idea was wrong. Economic inequality -> power inequality. No matter what system you implement this will always be true. Taxation doesn't fix it, campaign finance can't fix it long term (after all, what's the real difference between giving directly to a campaign to advertise, or running ads that express your "sincerely held political beliefs" or getting a bunch of employees who mysteriously get raises to do it).
What I failed to see as a liberal, but I do see now, is that control of resources grants power. And the only way to ensure an equality of power is to ensure equal access to resources. And the only way to do that is to ensure no one individual controls those resources (i.e. to ensure that private property is abolished).
Billionaires should not exist. The fact they do exist means that there is a tremendous difference in power between those who are and those who aren't. And power will always corrupt. Always. It would corrupt me, it would corrupt you, it has corrupted those at the top. It's just part of being human.
To prevent that corruption, and to prevent that abuse we must equalize power. This is where the soviet style states failed. They didn't equalize power, they just gave it to a new class of bureaucrats and politburo types who then went on to do the same shit the rich did. No, real equality comes from worker management of resources, i.e. direct worker management of the MOP.
​
Anyone else in this boat? Disillusioned with liberalism and social democracy? Disillusioned with taxes fixing all our problems when the real problem is the power imbalance inherent to the system?
​
Thoughts?
My own personal story of radicalization: My disillusion with liberalism and social democracy. Can anyone relate?As anyone who has read any of my more personal posts, I used to be a liberal. I've always been a particularly political person, and a deeply passionate one at that, so I was always passionate about liberalism,
I was actively anti-socialist as well. Partly because I thought socialism = WhEn ThE gOvErNmEnT controls everything and partially because it felt inherently authoritarian to me (obviously, my opinions on this have changed). What has been strong throughout all of my politics is a very strong distrust of centralized authority, my deepest political principle has always been anti-authoritarianism.
I was also an entrepreneurial type. Or at least I wanted to be anyways. My thinking was that, since the rich lobby politicians, if I could become rich then I would be able to lobby politicians and pass like pro-lgbtq+ stuff or civil rights programs, expanded welfare, etc. I always believed that if I had money, I would have power, and I would use that power wisely and fight the good fight. Please note, that it didn't occur to me how fundamentally elitist and anti-democratic this mindset was until much later. Fuck the rich.
Then, I started learning what the rich were actually like. I've always heard the phrase "money corrupts" but I had no idea how true that really was.
Here's some videos on the insane and abusive shit rich asshats get up to: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXyzDxxQRSA&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXyzDxxQRSA&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=10), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ce2HcQpZU&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=13](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ce2HcQpZU&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=13), [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn548uALuYw&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=16](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn548uALuYw&list=PLDbSvEZka6GEojWq0xz2klOVp2r9iT4G5&index=16)
The rich are regularly able to abuse regular people cause they'll just buy their silence. And it costs nothing for them. The poor can sue, they can speak out, but the rich have PR teams, the best lawyers in the world. They will almost always get away with it.
And that's what struck me. I was right when I understood that money -> power. What really corrupts is power. The ability to get or get away with whatever you wanted.
And deep down, I don't trust myself with that power. And if I don't trust MYSELF with it, despite my constant moral handwringing, why the fuck should I trust some rich asshat with it?
That's what really broke liberalism for me. The notion that massive accumulation of personal wealth is ok so long as everyone gets basic necessities. That economic inequality, in and of itself, isn't the problem, poverty is. That idea was wrong. Economic inequality -> power inequality. No matter what system you implement this will always be true. Taxation doesn't fix it, campaign finance can't fix it long term (after all, what's the real difference between giving directly to a campaign to advertise, or running ads that express your "sincerely held political beliefs" or getting a bunch of employees who mysteriously get raises to do it).
What I failed to see as a liberal, but I do see now, is that control of resources grants power. And the only way to ensure an equality of power is to ensure equal access to resources. And the only way to do that is to ensure no one individual controls those resources (i.e. to ensure that private property is abolished).
Billionaires should not exist. The fact they do exist means that there is a tremendous difference in power between those who are and those who aren't. And power will always corrupt. Always. It would corrupt me, it would corrupt you, it has corrupted those at the top. It's just part of being human.
To prevent that corruption, and to prevent that abuse we must equalize power. This is where the soviet style states failed. They didn't equalize power, they just gave it to a new class of bureaucrats and politburo types who then went on to do the same shit the rich did. No, real equality comes from worker management of resources, i.e. direct worker management of the MOP.
​
Anyone else in this boat? Disillusioned with liberalism and social democracy? Disillusioned with taxes fixing all our problems when the real problem is the power imbalance inherent to the system?
​
Thoughts?
misleading post, the article doesnt support the title:
"An Israeli military spokesman said troops raided a home in the Jenin refugee camp to apprehend Islamic Jihad militants planning an imminent attack in Israel, and that the soldiers came under fire. The spokesman said at least six of those killed were armed men — including some who opened fire at troops and others who had tried to flee."
Take her outside I mostly got rid of my tankie phase after touching some grass. For the most part tankie phases are just a result of anger to capitalism
The “Two Cows” Analogy
(from the printout i got)
“Capitalism : You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income.
Anarchism : You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to kill you and take the cows.”
Black cops kill black man, white supremacy?
Black cops kill black man, white supremacy?
Israeli military kills nine Palestinians for no reason at all
>LOL that's only consensual among edgelords online; nobody has ever seen a leftist complaining about democracy IRL get a grip
>
>I guess in this sub I have to talk more like a drug dealer and less like an academic to not fail the revolutionary Turing test? Everyone wants the opposite everywhere else -\_-
WOW this is inconvenient. Your house robro is going around detaining anyone who isn't speaking your exact anarcho-internet-child dialect ffs
>LOL that's only consensual among edgelords online; nobody has ever seen a leftist complaining about democracy IRL get a grip
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>I guess in this sub I have to talk more like a drug dealer and less like an academic to not fail the revolutionary Turing test? Everyone wants the opposite everywhere else -\_-
Also like auto-deleting comments for whatever your supreme anarchist council has judged to be an oppressive slur is like, kind of ablist and kind of racist and kind of classist. Not every lumpen or prole off the street can code-switch instantly to early 20th-century academic lexica. Y'all think you're running a friendly punk house but actually you've got a cop robot gagging people for saying the words you don't personally like
If we banned everyone we didn't like this sub would have far fewer posters. I know it's hard to believe but we are also anarchists and we really try to do as little moderation as we can to both keep this space in existence on Reddit and to adhere to the rules that the community creates. We don't make the rules and we don't make arbitrary decisions either. Further, all of us are capable of being removed through processes that are outlined in meta.
Any anarchist worth their sale would not condone rules against anything, including chatbots.
One thing I do is I take a look at this: [Life on Earth](https://healthandsuffering.wixsite.com/theup).
The world is never "just what it is." The world is always what it can be.
(Note: link not formatted for mobile but will work on desktop/laptop)
Nothing that you're doing is futile. It all matters. And yes- in dark times, the stars should certainly go out.
You may want to take a look at this: [Life on Earth](https://healthandsuffering.wixsite.com/theup).
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Great post, thanks for sharing. I suggest that you check this out: [Life on Earth](https://healthandsuffering.wixsite.com/theup). (Link not formatted for mobile, but will work on desktop/laptop). It starts with an illustration of mutual credit and then builds from there.
Part of the problem is you don't know your enemy. If you blame your woes on capitalism, then you must have too many dependencies. But tell me, in capitalism: do the consumers choose the winners and losers in the marketplaces, or does a central bank tax the consumers and hyperinflate the currency to bailout their corporate loser cronies?
The despair in America does not come from free markets, it comes from an enormous, massively expensive central bureaucracy we work harder and harder for less and less to support, then clique into violently antagonized lobbies to fight cultural warfare in our streets over tax breaks and benefits, government rights, and equality in human capital stockyards, how Progressive.
We've not been a capitalism since Woodrow Wilson stripped our purchasing power with the Federal Reserve Act, and indentured us to it with the 16th AMD, in 1913. It's no coincidence Wilson put us in WWI the very next year, the international bankers he sold us out to, that run his Fed, fund both sides of wars. Wilson's 17th AMD stripped the reigns of senate from our governors and filled DC with corporate cronies. From there our government has Progressively grown into the monster we have today.
When you look at our nation mindful of despair, think of these words James Madison wrote when he was helping to found a republic:
"...such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions."
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What would an anarchistic justice framework do with figures like Donald Trump?Recently I was somewhat dismayed to see other socialists and anarchists within the Twitter sphere celebrating Andrew Tate's arrest at the hands of the Romanian police, with numerous suggestions he was "getting what he deserved" and wishes for him to "rot in prison for the rest of his life."
Make no mistake, Andrew Tate is a serial abuser and misogynist who has caused serious harm to others. The people he has traumatized deserve to hold him directly accountable. While the fact his bruised ego lashing back at a teenage girl made him give himself away will never not be hilarious, I don't believe incarceration can or will deliver any meaningful justice here.
Tying this back to Donald Trump, I've only either heard doomerish proclamations that Trump will escape any and all accountability (paired with passive prayers for his diet to kill him before he can cause much more damage) or expressions of the same bizarre fetishistic yearning for special counsel Jack Smith's presumably forthcoming criminal indictment as for Robert Mueller's.
I have yet to hear anyone propose or conceive of how a real, abolitionist model of justice would deal with figures like Trump, who hold so much sway over vast sections of society that it'd be difficult to say exactly which of his peers or victims would hold him accountable for what specific offense, or what resulting consequences that would mean for him.
Hell, even if Jack Smith *does* indict, prosecute, convict, and sentence Trump within the next 18 months (and precluding the Republican Party doesn't follow through with its threats of civil war should any of the above occur) there's still nothing stopping Trump from remaining a valid presidential candidate from prison - and even in the likelihood he loses again, whatever shockwaves Moore v. Harper might reap might fully legalize the same kind of election fraud scheme Trump attempted in 2020.
A convicted seditionist legally assuming the office of head of state would all but destroy the notion of the rule of law, of the modern "rules-based order."
Frankly I don't have that much faith that any state institution could possibly hold accountable a man who personifies perhaps the purest manifestation of coercive control, of the uninhibited solipsistic id, alive today - not that his incarceration would represent actual justice anyway.
Either way, whether he spends the rest of his days in prison or a free man, once the decision about which he will be is made, the United States as we know it seems on course to implode - and there doesn't seem to be much indication, even from the Left, that whatever is most likely to succeed it would be any healthier or more holistic a society,
I'm not even sure the gravity of the fact an irrational, vengeful fascist who was only kept from ***launching unprovoked false flag attacks with nuclear weapons*** by the brief instances of good judgment from his slightly more self-aware criminal accomplices, might very well be back in command of those same nuclear weapons this time two years from now is weighing on us the way it should be.
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I was scrolling and thought this was the forest from Shrek, lol. But seriously though, this place looks so lit and I'd kill to build a cabin and live there for the rest of my life.
What costs are we willing to pay here?Hey guys. I’m new to this whole thing and I’d like to gather a sense of how much the people of this community would genuinely put on the line. How much pain and suffering would you be able to accept to bring anarchism to this fucked world? What is the price you are willing to pay?
I suppose what I’m trying to understand is how serious is everyone here. Is this stuff just a bunch of theory you use as another means of distraction, another fantasy that eases the pain of reality some - while doing nothing to being the dream into fruition?
What do these ideas really mean to you? Would you be willing to actually live and die for them?
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On The Subject of American RevolutionSpeaking in terms blatant, as a question.
Painting a picture to grasp a better idea of, America is ripe in discourse and political corruption, peace is varied and never in full, not that a neighbor ever truly loved his neighbor but now more than ever do we find ourselves bitter and hateful.
Regardless of reasoning this resentment is a nail in our coffin.
And so my picture is painted, and my question following is, If a revolution occurs and factions fight. Would the anrchists choose a side? Or would the chaos in-between be the place you reap?
Any podcasts with anarchist perspectives on modern topics?Basically title, wanna get more insight on modern topics and study it better. Alternatively it could also be books. Thanks in advance and viva la anarkía.
About to start the trial statement of Kuwasi Balagoon and hopping back into Insurrection by Agustin Guillamon.
I'm in Atlanta too comrade.
Cop city is a clusterfuck and we've had many rise and falls (Occupy and the killing of Troy Davis, tent city outside Braves Stadium, ...)
I decided not to participate in this one (to the chagrin of some leftists) but I stand by my decision.
Organization is key here. I have some ideas of what that's supposed to look like, but it doesn't look like occupation.
Keep your head up, but organize too.
Ngl I heard this yesterday and I was like…cool.
Disclaimer: I am not making any sort of statement about John Lennon whatsoever.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
And I live in an area of California with a lot of Indigenous people who stand in a radical legacy of resistance against colonialism and the u.s government. Some of my friends are badass activists fighting for a return to their way of life which imo is pretty much anarchist, and some Indigenous people I know join the military become u.s nationalists and kill brown people in other countries for oil, or become cops .
That’s part of why the mainstream discourse around identity politics has gotten so annoying to me, and it just sounds like it’s coming from people who’s entire understandings of the real world are in theory only.
it would be scary for sure if those things actually were happening regularly. The truth, however, is that they have them rarely. It just so happens on the occasions they do happen, it’s major news. Some instances when coos are accused of murder are not based in fact, like the Michael Brown case. Hands up don’t shoot did not happen. That’s a fact. It was major news, and it was all false.
it would be scary for sure if those things actually were happening regularly. The truth, however, is that they have them rarely. It just so happens on the occasions they do happen, it’s major news. Some instances when coos are accused of murder are not based in fact, like the Michael Brown case. Hands up don’t shoot did not happen. That’s a fact. It was major news, and it was all false.
Nuance is definitely necessary. Yes, living standards increased, but entire continents were strip-mined, millions upon millions were enslaved and oppressed who were lucky enough to not be killed or worked or starved to death like millions more.
Frankly, what got me to be disgusted with authoritarian false communism was hearing the stories first-hand from people who lived in those countries at the time. I have been lucky enough to be in the position to hear stories firsthand from many Eastern Europeans, Chinese, Vietnamese and others from the former USSR tell me stories, not all of them negative. But after a while, when you hear stories of loved ones killed in front of them, of people being thrown in gulags for passing out Bibles, for having a Quran in their apartment in the hopes to help their children go to Heaven, being thrown in so-called re-education camps, of work quotas forcing workers into longer hours with no pay increase (in the interests of the proletariat, right?), then it becomes increasingly difficult to accept brutal regimes regardless of the flag they're under.
Homesteading. Independence.
Yeah you are gonna have to pay property tax not to draw attention. And unfortunately you have to hustle your way to be able to afford to own a small chunk of land in the woods. But once you do you are king. Most people spend their entire lives hustling because they get drawn into the mediocrity of trying to one up their neighbors in terms of wealth.
I've lived off less than 20k a year for over 3 years now and I'm doing just fine.
You just gotta let go of everything you think is normal and let the river take you. Eat well. Try to fix things on your own. Find the value that is in everything and just trust that if a dandelion can grow through a crack on a crowded street, that you can also plant your roots and break free
Just reached heaven. Lotta people up here but still can’t find Abimael Guzmán
You can't use the state to end the state, nor violence to create a peaceful society. If you are an anarchist and you collaborate with authoritarians, left or right, the end result will be the same. You will become a problem as soon as you are not of use or talk too loud and will be killed. That's just history comrade.
By the way about the Grayzone, Max Blumental editor of the Grayzone and the Grayzone retweet a lot of shit from the Quincy institute and wich board is full of people in the high up chain of the US command.
https://quincyinst.org/about/
And look who sponsor it ? Thats it. Charles Kock foundation
The CATO institute is quoting Blumenthal as a source
https://www.cato.org/commentary/when-will-donald-trump-stop-even-one-endless-war
"Max Blumenthal of Grayzone recently reported on an investigation of the atrocity photos used to justify sanctions under the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act: “investigators have determined that at least half of the photographs in the ‘Caesar’ trove depict the bodies of government soldiers killed by the armed opposition.”
And you are taking the words of theses clown at stacke ? Please you are better than that.
I have the benefit of being 50 and have enough chronic illnesses that any revolution will likely kill me. I say benefit because I have no concerns about working with anyone that is left of the Democrats and not on some Red/Brown horseshit. Because I will likely be dead before any possible anti-Anarchist actions can be taken.
it's a pretty basic question in this part of the world in practice austerity refers to a series of social policies in which a pretty normal amount of debt is used to justify cut in social and infrastructure spending unfortunately,
less social and infrastructure spending means that in order to attract the same investment one needs to cut taxes\[by more than amount one cut investment usually in-fact by more than it would cost individual investors to provide the infrastructure they need themselves\];
Actually on a large scale it's cheaper to centrally invest in infrastructure overcapacity, technically you can still get some investment with extremely high taxes is possible;getting the same kind of investment without any (or only extremely limited)infrastructure is simply not possible, at best you can't participate in the system at worst it's a permanent poverty-trap predicament.
Poverty trap (x) here refers to a situation in which a situation, where resources you get can't be used in order to equalise the situation one is in with the situation one needs to be in in order to thrive or compete, these resources can include liquidity for purposes of trading. a similar predicament is the debt forced on Haïti.
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I know that he work for a think thank duh, I wanted the link with Koch and that you give one, thank you for providing sources.
So, yeah Koch is giving money (not 2 millions, btw the 2 millions goes to 4 differents Think tank) and we should be wary of those kind of thing, however that doesn't mean that Ross isn't necessarly wrong what he wrote back a few years ago made people goes full berseker on him. He might have changed is politics to a more liberal view, idk.
Because as I search him talking about Koch, he does saying about him in his book "against the fascist creep", at least4-5 times. Let me quote :
"The Patriot movement’s strong focus on capitalism as “private property rights” has found a solid base in the United States’ libertarian movement, which developed a free market economic platform through the “anarchist-capitalist” ideology of Murray Rothbard. Typically seen as far right, the ideological platform of libertarianism came to be most effectively spread through the efforts of the Cato Institute, founded by Rothbard and Charles Koch in the early 1970s, and through Citizens for a Sound Economy (the forerunner of FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity), which launched in 1984 with Ron Paul as its first chairman. However, the movement has deeper roots in a merger of leftist and right-wing ideas that took place in the 1960s."
"During the election campaign of 2008, presidential hopeful Ron Paul declared the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party to be a grassroots “day of action” for his supporters to donate to his campaign. It was a surprising popular success. Most importantly, Paul had connected the patriotic 1776 Revolution against “taxation without representation” to the 2008 bailouts deployed by the federal government as an answer to the financial crisis. The conceptual link, amounting to a kind of “conservative revolution,” spread to key figures in the Republican Party and libertarian corporate elite like the Koch Brothers and Dick Armey, who had emerged at the forefront of Wise Use in the 1990s. The election of Barack Obama became the catalyst for a new movement promoted by these figures called the Tea Party."
"That a fascist group could form a political party led by some of the foremost figures of the US radical right suggests that the integration between fascism and radical right is extensive and complex. That the A3P held meetings with and supported the Libertarian Party also exposes the complex mixture of shared interests, if not strategic coordination. The embrace of Holocaust deniers has been a tendency among US right-wing libertarians since Rothbard’s praise of Barnes (and the latter’s Holocaust-denying articles that appeared in Koch’s Rampart Journal) only exposes the tip of the iceberg of conspiracy theories of black helicopters, FEMA Camps, and the UN’s “Agenda 21” plans to depopulate the United States of white, Christian patriots forwarded by demagogues like Alex Jones.[569] Rather than an ideology of freedom and independence, far-right libertarianism in the United States relies on the fundamental right-left syncretism of so-called anarcho-capitalism to promote a palingenetic myth of white settler life specific to US ultranationalism—a myth popular within an extremely militant sector of the extreme right with roots in the fascist Posse Comitatus movement. It is, therefore, by definition a crucial element of the modern fascist creep."
"Pearce had greater success using the apparatus of the state for white supremacist ends. He was the main sponsor of Arizona Senate Bill 1070, which turned every routine traffic stop into an immigration raid by requiring police to determine every person’s immigration status. SB 1070 had been drafted with the aid of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a special interest group cofounded by Paul Weyrich and linked to the Koch brothers."
Source :
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-reid-ross-against-the-fascist-creep
So I have a hard time believing that Ross is working with the fed to destroy leftist movements, will making koch one of the protagonist of the radical right, Ross might be not even aware about the financing ?
White supremacist group? They directly target anarchists for imprisonment:
https://networkcontagion.us/reports/network-enabled-anarchy/
I'll say it again, he works for an org that write reports for the government directly calling for anarchists to be imprisoned.
Look at their tax filings - they're public record, and compare them to what Koch has donated. Koch provides almost all their funding.
My kindred in anarchy, I don't need 'CIA propaganda' (I hasten to point out yet again that the CIA is the US' *foreign* intelligence service. Any domestic anti-anarchist propaganda would be written on orders of the NSA) to convince me that primitivists deserve a good intellectual kicking.
Their own words and ideas do that convincing perfectly well without any outside interference.
Also their name is Manuel Paez Terán. As a Venezuelan citizen Manuel has two legal last names no hyphen.
Check out the interview with "Molotov Now!" on Its Going Down, We will be talking about Radical Grassroots Projects within Aberdeen, Washington such as our own at Sabot Media.
Quote: "The brutal truth is that there is no “good” exit from this imperialist war. Either there will be a dirty geopolitical deal between the West and the Kremlin, in which parts of eastern Ukraine are de facto incorporated into the Russian empire while the rest of the country is added to the Western sphere of influence, or the spiral of escalation will continue, the conflict will escalate until the war gets completely out of control. The loss of control can thus take the form of a nuclear exchange of blows, since Russia ultimately has the short end of the stick in this conventional escalation spiral vis-à-vis Nato. But the nuclear Armageddon can also take place in interaction with an increased erosion of the state. The cracks in the state power structure are clearly visible in authoritarian Russia in particular. The war exposed precisely the internal disruption and erosion of the Russian state. This process of erosion is already gripping its military core. In general, authoritarian state structures are not a sign of strength, but a sign of socio-economic weakness, which can only be covered up for a time by mere dictatorial means and coercion."
Yep. And if you kill one of the noncops in self defense like Michael Reinoehl did when he shot the marauding proud boy, the cops will hunt you down, slaughter you in a hail of bullets, and then not be able to get their planted witnesses stories straight.
Anarchists who know the history of Ocala and Assad would probably disagree with your assessment, but maybe you're right. Maybe a cafe full of people who just happen to live in a country being denied special military protection while under direct threat of attack by another psychotic dictator is focused on a different psychotic dictator who just so happens to be denying that military protection is their focus because he's committing genocide against an ethnic group in his own country.
I think we're both making assumptions, and we could argue all day about which assumption is more/less probable.
Austerity generally refers to when the economy contracts and the State loses tax revenue and responds by cutting social programs and benefits that act as safety nets under capitalism. This is why they call it a 'austerity program' or 'regime': its a 'solution' by capitalists to deal with less money coming into the State: they make it harder to be poor!
The GOP and the Democrats have been united in implementing a regime of austerity with the Republicans pushing it as part of its central platform; Steve Bannon famously called for the "deconstruction of the administrative State." Meaning: gut food stamps, day care programs, free education, etc. Destroy social programs for poor and working people. Make America great again, right?
Global financial institutions like the World Bank or the IMF will often demand that in return for loans that countries in the global South engage in austerity cuts, privatization etc.
This is part and parcel to how the economy has moved in a neoliberal direction since the 1970s - based more around trading financial capital around than 'making stuff.'
To get the basics of all this, watch the Noam Chomsky documentary 'Requiem for the American Dream,' which is all about the shift into neoliberalism.
It's free: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZnuc-Fv\_Tc
Getting yourself shot or arrested while achieving nothing is easy. Anyone could do that. You being in prison for pointless reasons wont make it come any faster either. You'd just be in prison.
The recording of the George Floyd murder, through doing so, resulted in far more direct action than if they had attempted and failed to stop the execution. To be clear, they, as you would had you attempted to intervene in the above, would've failed spectacularly.
Documenting police is already taking the risk of getting hurt or worse.
Here in France a photographer got hit in the groin with a baton by a cop and had to have a testicle surgically removed as a consequence. He is now looking for testimonials and video/photo evidence to hopefully be able to sue.
Filming police and pressuring them from a distance often works to make them reconsider what they're doing and the consequences of getting filmed doing it.
Getting your ass tazed, shot or thrown in jail won't achieve much more of a revolution and as far as we know you're the one sitting and whining.
You tend to record cops instead of physically messing with them so you don't get shot or beaten to death.
Thoughts on Debates in Contemporary AnarchismI've just been kicking some ideas around in my head that I'd like to share because I've recently been undergoing some changes in what I believe.
One thing I've seen often among anarchists in online spaces is a kind of paradoxical gatekeeping in the obsession over who is a "real" and "fake" anarchist. For example, there are many arguments over whether writers such as Wayne Price, David Graeber or Noam Chomsky are/were real anarchists. Ultimately, I'm not sure if it matters. It doesn't mean everything they say is wrong and they're all pieces of shit. It just means you disagree with some of their ideas. I do believe that Graeber supporting Labour (rhyme unintentional) was a betrayal of Anarchist principles. That doesn't mean that his anthropological writings are "wrong".
I think this is important to note because many people begin labeling themselves anarchists after reading books by authors who some anarchists don't believe are "anarchist" enough. It's important to note that purity in itself is a spook. For example, many anarchists say that anarchism and democracy are incompatible. I do understand their argument, and I believe it has merit, but a term like "democracy" means so many different things to so many different people. I admit, it's a spook. Keep in mind that even the idea of the "ego" is a spook. Just as pointing at the moon isn't the moon, pointing at the "ego" isn't the ego. But to return to my main point, GP Maksimov defined anarchism as "democracy without the state," and that definition isn't a horrible way to summarize the anarchist position concisely. I think there are ways to define democracy that are compatible with anarchism. The debate over whether anarchism is democratic ends up being semantic and ultimately pointless.
I feel the same way about the argument about whether anarchy is "left wing". I've remained unconvinced that anarchism isn't leftist, partially because of the debate between Jason McQuinn and Peter Staudenmaier. Yes, I do realize that Staudenmaier is associated with "social ecology" and some might say he's not a "real" anarchist. But I believe that's irrelevant to the topic. I could say McQuinn isn't a real anarchist because he's quite honestly a jerk in his response and uses an ableist slur in its title. The fact is that McQuinn can't even get through his response without mentioning the Communist Raoul Vaneigem:
>Staudenmaier clarifies his claim by adding that: “the profoundly anti-authoritarian upsurge of that era...owed much of its vigor and inclusiveness to this re-orientation toward everyday relationships.” However, while it may be true that there was a sort of generalized New Left “re-orientation towards everyday relationships,” this hardly constituted any sort of genuine critique of everyday life. Most of the “re-orientation towards everyday relationships” during the time was fraught with ideological baggage that precisely prevented the development of such a critique. There were all kinds of incoherent amalgamations floating around, including aspects of drug culture, feminism, Maoism, anarchism, sexual liberation, drop-out culture, etc. But they were just that-incoherent amalgamations-and not coherent critiques of everyday life in any way comparable to that of Raoul Vaneigem’s critique in his Revolution of Everyday Life. This type of coherent critique would have immediately called into question the rampant incoherence involved in the reformism, moralism, identity politics, workerism and authoritarianism of New Left organizations at the time.
I might also want to mention that McQuinn seems to keep doing the same thing that Staudenmaier and others accuse him of doing: Making a strawman out of stereotypes of the 60s and 70s left while believing this strawman is also relevant to the modern left. Another concern I have is that while I'm under the impression that most people on this sub believe Antifascist organizing is really important, I do wonder if some of this rejection of "the left" would dissuade anarchists from potentially organizing with socialists and communists to at least bash the fash. Furthermore, my local FNB has both anarchists and the DSA volunteering. Would it be against anarchist praxis to help out with FNB if Democratic Socialists are there? I think not.
I also wonder whether it matters whether we call ourselves left or right. When it comes to a protest, a riot, an insurrection, a revolution, whatever you call it, we're generally going to be on the same side of the line as leftists. The world will still point to us and say we're leftists. Maybe your idea of praxis doesn't involve riots, protests, or insurrections. If it doesn't, then what is your idea of praxis?
The attack on "identity politics" also leads some anarchists to do and say some pretty bad things. I think one of the worst offenders is Bob Black. For example, in the Abolition of Work, "Historians like Eugene Genovese have argued persuasively that—as antebellum slavery apologists insisted—factory wage-workers in the Northern American states and in Europe were worse off than Southern plantation slaves." Why Black would mention Genovese here or any of his bad faith arguments as "persuasive" is beyond my comprehension. The same goes for his Jew-baiting towards Bookchin in Anarchy after Leftism:
>I’m not one of those who cries out in horror at the slightest whiff of anti-Semitism. But the Dean sees fit to insinuate that even the promiscuously pluralistic Hakim Bey is ideologically akin to Hitler (22), and that the primitivist quest to recover authenticity “has its roots in reactionary romanticism, most recently in the philosophy of Martin Heidegger, whose *völkisch* ‘spiritualism,’ latent in *Being and Time,* later emerged in his explicitly fascist works” (50). So let’s consider whether Bookchin-vetted classical anarchists are ideologically kosher. Proudhon was notoriously anti- Semitic (Silbener 1948), but since Bookchin dismisses him, however implausibly, as too much the individualist (4–5), let’s set Proudhon aside. Bakunin, the Russian aristocrat who “emphatically prioritized the social over the individual” (5) had a notion what was wrong with his authoritarian rival, Karl Marx. Bakunin considered Marx, “the German scholar, in his threefold capacity as an Hegelian, a Jew, and a German,” to be a “hopeless statist” (1995:142). A Hegelian, a Jew, a sort-of scholar, a Marxist, a hopeless (city-) statist — does this sound like anybody familiar?
I also wonder if Black could disparagingly be called "the Editor" the same way that he calls Bookchin "the Dean". Is a writer wrong simply because they're a dean, or more generally an academic? I have trouble believing that. Sure, academia is inherently hierarchical and not anarchist, but that doesn't make everything academics write "wrong". I think it's important than academics don't gatekeep non-academics, but the door swings the other way as well.
Perhaps some of you may think I'm calling for "leftist unity." I am not. Unity isn't anarchistic. We shouldn't have unity with the PSL tankies for example. Perhaps this is a good use of gatekeeping. But I've been kicking around the idea of leftist pluralism instead of leftist unity. We should embrace a wide range of ideas and writers not just on the left but also some of those who reject or see their views as beyond the left-right spectrum. Nonetheless, the 20th century shows some of the ugly results of "neither left nor right" thinking, such as Georges Sorel's swing to the far right or the Nazi's cynically calling themselves "socialist" even if their ideas had nothing to do with any other socialists. Staudenmaier explains this better than I can:
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>All of this casts a rather different light on McQuinn’s forays into psychology. He is convinced that left anarchists who are unpersuaded by the rhetoric of post-leftism are simply anxiously resisting “the self-examination necessary for genuine self-understanding.” In reality, a number of post-leftism’s critics have tried to provoke greater self-examination among anarchists, a more serious re-appraisal of the lacunae within our own traditions, by questioning the tendentially elitist undertones that mark so much anarchist discourse. Individualist strands of anarchism are especially susceptible to a disdain for “the masses,” and the post-left persuasion frequently accentuates the inegalitarian aspects of this worldview. A few post-left anarchists go so far as to extol the right wing tendencies within anarchism as a healthy corrective to the grave dangers of social equality and the dastardly connivance of anarchists and power-mad leftists.
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>On this score, McQuinn’s essay sets off alarm bells for readers familiar with the neglected history of anarchist flirtations with the right. Anarchism has long had something of a Janus face, oscillating between emancipatory and exclusivist poles. Stirner himself is an exemplary figure in this regard: simultaneously the chief inspiration for one wing of anarchism, and a darling of the right, from its proprietarian faction to its pronounced elitist and authoritarian variants. 2 The problem here is not really that of an “opening to the political right,” as McQuinn anticipates, but rather the naïve notion that anarchists can now, through force of will alone, walk through the looking glass into the promised land of “neither left nor right.” Post-left anarchists would do well to examine the history of this foolish slogan before adopting it into their repertoire. In its modern form the phrase was popularized by the right wing of the German Greens, particularly the far-right authoritarian Herbert Gruhl, during the reactionary backlash of the early 1980s. But the roots of the neither-left-nor-right idea go considerably further back; a version of this stance was popular within the nationalist and populist völkisch movement in Wilhelmine and Weimar Germany, and the pretence of offering a ‘third way’ between left and right became one of the major selling points for European fascism.
To finish my reflections, I'm just not sure where I stand ideologically today. I spent years living an "anarchist" lifestyle, rubbertramping and gasjugging, busking, hitchhiking, going around to different community houses and anarchist spaces, WWOOFing, and even being very involved with Occupy Wall Street. After a few years, I felt like the anarchist lifestyle made me miserable, and I just stopped. I suppose part of me thought that everyone should just live as small farmers, and because I wasn't good at doing that, I felt like I was lesser. I felt like I didn't belong in the world I wanted to see. I started becoming more of a vague "Democratic Socialist", and for a while, I wasn't very active, partially because I moved to Mexico for a few years. Since 2020, I've been involved with a lot of electoral organizing, but I feel like I'm going on this treadmill of constantly having to support candidates, and I've been reading a bit about the failures of Podemos in Spain and Corbyn/Momentum in the UK. Where I live in the US, we've managed to get some at least vaguely socialist candidates to win office, including a US House representative, some state representatives, some magistrates, some of our City and County Council, and maybe even our County Executive this year. In some ways, I can see this at least preventing some of the worst and doing some good, but I expect to be disappointed because developers run local government not just in the US, but in the entire "developed" world. I want to do some more "prefigurative" anarchist praxis, but I'm just not sure what to do. It's a lot easier to just canvass for a candidate than to think of and organize direct actions, but it doesn't feel right.
McQuinn-Staudenmaier debate for reference:
[https://social-ecology.org/wp/2003/07/anarchists-in-wonderland-the-topsy-turvy-world-of-post-left-anarchy/](https://social-ecology.org/wp/2003/07/anarchists-in-wonderland-the-topsy-turvy-world-of-post-left-anarchy/)
[https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/jason-mcquinn-the-incredible-lameness-of-left-anarchism#toc11](https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/jason-mcquinn-the-incredible-lameness-of-left-anarchism#toc11)
Yet bootlickers sit quiet and coy to the atrocious behavior of their favorite ones in blue. Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out once the video is released to the public soon. Do people feel the same way now with anger like they did when Floyd was killed? Alot of questions coming nonetheless...
it’s literally a piñata to have fun chill
Wtf? I think you got that backwards. They don't think racism is systemic. Judging by the names of the officers I think this is something beyond racism. More like classism. Cops believe they are better than everyone. It's human nature for a police officer to let his perceived power to go to their head. The problem stems from cops being allow too much authority and the municipality hiring the lowest scoring individuals because they generate more revenue. Because they don't know the law and don't care about anyone's rights. They just get a kick out of being king shit. Until they retire then they have no friends and end up drinking themselves to death. Their Napoleon complex fades slowly as they wither away. We have allowed the state too much authority over us. They shouldnt be able to touch a human being unless that human being intends on harming some one else or has harmed someone, or their property. Those things reside in the realm of common law. Everything outside of that is corporate policy and they should only be allowed to write small tickets but not be able to tow your automobile or take you to jail for drugs or any of that other shit. That's positive law and it's ruined our country created a black market and allowed cops too much power.
Article from IGD about automation that largely looks at it from economic standpoint: [https://itsgoingdown.org/against-automation-against-ubi/](https://itsgoingdown.org/against-automation-against-ubi/)
"The future is here, but only to leave us behind."
A capitalist system isn't closer or further from socialism based on how much they tax or how many social programs there is
From the first bourgeois revolutions, we can observe that they are followed by an authoritarian period. Even the Makhnovtchina had to be. We can still aknowledge the progress made during these period. As a french (who were likely to have taken part in his assassination), I don't have any credibility criticizing Sankara's authoritarianism.
Sankara was in power for less than 5 year, so we can't know if he would have become a lifelong dictator. What's sure, it's that it wasn't the reason he was killed. In what he achieved and wanted to achieve, there were many good things, and his thoughts concerning neo-colonialism are essential
The spirit is still there as evident in this video.
The last time America saw a turnout like this, was because a cop killed a black man while all of the working-class people were on a "quarantine vacation" and were looking for two things: a meaningful purpose and an excuse to get out of the fucking house. Once the FOMO crowd had both satisfied, they grew bored and moved on.
While he's not an anarchist, he kind of proves the whole fundamental theory.
People will do what they are told by a perceived authority 65% of the time. Up to and including "killing them".
You can infer from that, only 35% of us would have refused to harm another.
In my very personal opinion, that 35% of us are anarchists or have similar moral compasses.
Stanley Milgram
I dont see any anarchist there and obviously there will be no anarchist.
These are not true anarchists these are wannabe anarchists which only search for a moment to fight against the government
If you support this protest youre actually against anarchism. These are right-radical people and you support these people.
Oh shoot, we're that one sub with critical reasoning, better move on lolol
>The phrase "kill your idols" means that the person behind the thought doesn't matter, because they are imperfect, they fuck up because we all fuck up. But the theory, the forwarding of anarchism, that is what matters.
Actually 'kill your idols' means that you should always be critical of anyone who is put up on a pedestal by others (or, indeed, yourself). It does not mean that you should ignore their flaws and read their writings anyway, like, at all.
I feel that the recent situation surrounding Andrew Lloyd/Anarxqista Goldman shows exactly why the person behind the thought *does* matter, a lot.
Because Lloyd, wearing the mask of a 20-something female queer poc sex worker, said things about anarchism and sex work that were incredibly distasteful to actual sex workers.Those sex workers were largely ignored and even accused of being 'libs' or trying to silence dissenting voices for speaking out against Lloyd's writings.
Largely because Lloyd's view of sex work and anarchism, written from his white privileged male perspective, appealed to fellow white privileged males in anarchist spheres.
These views purportedly coming from a queer poc woman gave them license to continue to fetishise queer poc sex workers, because in their eyes at least one of them actually liked them doing that, so surely there must be more who feel the same way.So, obviously *who* says something matters to the recipients of the message. If Andrew Lloyd had been open about a white middle aged man while saying these things, it would have been far harder for people who agreed with what he was saying to wave away the objections of the sex workers who spoke out against him.
And indeed more of them would have spoken out against him if they had known for certain he was a white middle-aged male making this shit up from whole cloth rather than a fellow sex worker who simply had a non-representative dissenting view of sex work.
And then, of course, there's the paedophilia angle. Just like with Peter Wilson/Hakim Bey (and Feral Faun/Wolfi Landstreicher), everything that Andrew Lloyd wrote about child liberation, sexual liberation and child sexuality was ultimately geared towards steering people step-by-step towards accepting CSA as 'normal' and beneficial.
It doesn't matter that some of the things they all said sound good, because those statements were ***designed*** to sound good to the average anarchist (that's why they're usually not original ideas, but the rehashing of ideas from popular anarchists in the past) in order to get the average anarchist invested and lure them into more readily accepting the next step in a line of argumentation geared towards them eventually supporting CSA.
And that's how entryism and every other attempt to steer a group's views towards a certain direction works: Start off making arguments with a broad appeal, then step-by-step guide your audience towards the thing you want them to believe.
CrimethInc isn't entryist or, on the whole, sinister, but they do operate on that same principle. They have articles, many of them outside submissions, written about current events from an anarchist perspective and then they have essays that are nearly all written to promote a very specific Situationalist/individualist interpretation of anarchism.
That CrimethInc has a specific view that it pushes isn't bad, most people do. Knowing who wrote something is actually incredibly important, because that's first step towards knowing their agenda and their flaws.
If you know me and you were to come across an essay I've written, you'll know its going to be written from the perspective of a social anarchist from Europe who is pretty hostile towards American Individualism and Frontierism in anarchism (and outside) and that there's a decent chance that the end goal of the essay is to convince you that Max Stirner was a putz.
I, of course, don't think that me writing like that is bad, but it's good for the reader to be aware of this context so that they can make up their own mind about whether my views on the matter are in line with reality, and to what extent, and whether they find what I'm saying convincing in that context.
Another reason why it's important to not ignore the person behind the though is that it's important for knowing whether their flaws are incidental or informative of their views.
For instance, Bakunin and Proudhon were both antisemites, but their antisemitism was incidental to their views on anarchism rather than informing it. Their writings on anarchism aren't designed to push the reader towards concluding that the real problem behind society is that Jews exist. Instead their antisemitism is expressed in their incorrect views that Jews, due to nature or culture, would have a harder time rejecting hierarchy and accepting anarchism.
Proudhon's misogyny, meanwhile, was definitely informative rather than incidental towards his views on anarchism. While he probably would still have been a proponent of maintaining the concept of property in Anarchism even if he wasn't a massive misogynist, his views and argumentation surround what exactly constitutes acceptable vs unacceptable property would have been quite different if he hadn't been working to maintain a concept of property that included advocating for women to be (or remain) considered as men's property.
In the end you can pretty much ignore everything Bakunin and Proudhon have written about Jews and only read what they wrote about anarchism and not run into any mental hiccups. But if you read Proudhon while trying to ignore his views on women, you run into the problem that some of his arguments don't make sense because he simultaneously has a view of property that can include people (specifically women, but that's part of the writings you're ignoring) and a view that treating people (specifically men regardless of colour) as property is a great evil that should be eradicated.
Because, you know, he views men treating women as property as natural, unavoidable and a benefit to both parties, therefore not a hierarchy imposed on women.
Which is different from his view on serfdom and slavery, the ownership of specifically men by other men, as unnatural and benefiting only the owner.
An even better example of the flaws informing the theory would be Bob Black, a man for whom his sexism, homophobia and casual racism are at the core of his 'anarchism'. Black hates 'the left' because he hates, what he perceives as, being told what to do. Including being told not to be a sexist asshat or to please stop using homophobic slurs. His writings come in exactly two flavours: Rephrasing things that previous anarchists said (his 'good' views) and ranting screeds where he denounces a person, group or movement as 'tyrannical', because someone called him out for being an ass (his true views). We know the latter are his true views because whenever he is made to choose between the lofty ideals of the anarchists he parrots in some essays and the more base self-centred views he espouses in his rant essays, he always chooses the latter.
(Infamously, for instance, he called the cops on fellow anarchists, because getting his way and achieving his personal desires is important enough that it makes using the State apparatus he nominally opposes for his own gratification perfectly okay.
Based on his past behaviour, it is my personal view that if the US government offered Black an exemption from all laws and taxes and to actively work to disappear anyone he didn't like in exchange for writing about how the US government should not be opposed by anarchists, we'd have a Bob Black essay with a pithy title like 'I love the USA (the A stands for Anarchy)' about how the US government embodies the true goals of anarchy as evidenced by its opposition to communism during the Cold War and with lots of cherry picked quotes from past anarchists to support that view the very next day.)
Even his 'good' works cherry pick quotes and views from past anarchists to support, or at least not contradict, his view that someone asking him to stop being sexist homophobe is literally worse than cops brutalising minorities.
If you read Bob Black's body of work without the ***explicitly*** bad parts, you're still reading works that ***implicitly*** support those bad parts because he wrote them with the bad parts firmly in the back of his head at all times. Those bad parts are still present, to some extent, they're just more subtle. And therefore, I would say, more dangerous because it's easier to go along with his train of thought towards those bad things if you're intentionally ignoring that that's what he's doing.
tl;dr No, 'kill your idols' does not mean 'ignore *who* said it, look at what they said'.
It actually means that we should *always* be aware of who said something and what their flaws were.
Because that gives us context for how their flaws influenced what they wrote so we can avoid adopting or excusing those flaws in their thought.
Anyone else think the American Anarchist Bill Weinberg from obnoxious af?The guy constantly smears everyone as a genocide-denier because he thinks China is carrying out a genocide in Xinjiang. He also supports the proxy war in Ukraine and believes Russia is a fascist state. Anyone know what his issue is? He seems deluded...
Improve Someone's Life, organized by Alexis Rodriguez
Rallies Happening in US Cities in Solidarity with 'Stop Cop City' After Anarchist Killed by PoliceRallies, vigils, and protests are happening across the US in various cities on Saturday, January 21st in solidarity with the struggle against Cop City in Atlanta and in memory of Tortuguita, a 26 year-old anarchist that was shot and killed by police on Wednesday, January 18th.
Cities included: Nashville, Philadelphia, Austin, Boston, Arcata, Santa Cruz, Lansing, Richmond, Madison, Minneapolis, Miami, Bridgeport, and Atlanta and beyond!
Check out the full list on itsgoingdown \[dot\] org.
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How to get startedHi! I always had a interest to know more about anarchism before saying that I'm an anarchist. What's the easiest way to get started? Every comment will be appreciated
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Voting for change?I know this is not the preferred way anarchists do stuff, but I'm just so goddanm tired of local liberal politicians with all their horrible authoritarian shit.
Democrats run on progressive messaging and then put in the most exploitative, ineffective welfare institutions while lining their own pockets. The whole system is so broken, I want someone that actually wants to fix it to get in office.
I know mutual aid and direct action. BUT it would be great to not have local politicians actively working aginst you.
At 0:40 you can see a cop kicking a smoke/tearsgar grenade towards the protesters. When the camera pans back ten seconds later the smoke grenade is back on the cops side of the street.
Didn’t the police return fire after the guy shot one of the cops?
US cops shoot, don't they? Some places they love gas more.
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There seems to be a re-occurring theme throughout Walking Dead and games like The Last of Us or Days Gone that humans are essentially bad and driven to authoritarianism and brutality. The world of the game Days Gone is filled with far-Right militias and religious cults. There's even a group called, "The Anarchists" that carve anarchy signs on themselves and just want "chaos" or something. Really silly.
Most post-apocalyptic movies, games, etc all sort of have similar themes of a lone ranger type going up against a series of horrific despots. A film like 'The Road' takes this to the extreme, where gangs of men roam around killing and eating people.
All of these narratives serve to justify the State and the civilization it creates around it, arguing that without them, life would be "brutish, nasty, and short."
The most interesting part of the Walking Dead series was the federation of autonomous communities, but that was quickly destroyed by whatever crew of bad guys that wanted to impose their will on the 'good people': the Saviors, Whisperers, the Wolves, etc.
Would be interesting to have an anarchist take on the genre, as it is entertaining and compelling.
I think that crimethinc gets a bad rap from folks who tend more liberalism than not, and I think that their individualism is distasteful to people who imagine a solid red ancom flavored anarchist world. They also tend to annoy folks who bought into the Bookchin myth of "lifestylism," but their theory is solid. There's some stuff that's better than other stuff. There's some stuff that probably hasn't aged well. But that's bound to happen.
The thing about them not doing the direct handing out of their own materials is like... I *guess* I can understand how someone might find that suspicious, but also consider this: why does it matter who wrote something? If an essay has sound theory, comes to sound conclusions, and doesn't express some underlying influence that's informed by maintaining systems of oppression does it matter who wrote it? The phrase "kill your idols" means that the person behind the thought doesn't matter, because they are imperfect, they fuck up because we all fuck up. But the theory, the forwarding of anarchism, that is what matters. We can take the good parts and compost the rest. By attaching names and faces to writing that are identifiable as a specific person we create idols. I think it's dope that crimethinc has avoided that for so long.
They used to be the most divisive group on the anarchist scene. Nowadays they're less controversial, though I still think their takes on a lot of stuff suck. Their stance on Ukraine is terrible.
https://itsgoingdown.org/no-war-but-class-war-against-state-nationalism-and-inter-imperialist-war-in-ukraine/
I've enjoyed their work for many years. The only thing that puzzles me is the high print quality/low prices of their books, especially when compared with other small, independent, left-radical presses. That suggests that the group, or a donor, has deep pockets, which is strange for an anarchist org.
let this be a reminder that there are many more chuds and cops than freedom-seeking people. they can and could kill us off with minimal legal consequences, especially when they create opportune situations to escalate. if many chuds could escape official sentencing for killing a few anarchists/abolitionists they could decimate us without any official state action/orders. It seems like the fact of the killings are not enough to break through to the liberals against media narratives. "self-defense" killing is too ingrained as "justified" for these actions to speak for themselves. I don't know the answer; I don't know that they are close to overtly planning this out but in a decentralized-action sense they are systematically killing people right now.
Do you live like you could die any day? are you gonna arm up and be the one who goes to prison? Are you gonna stick with mutual aid, let the developers/owners close their fist around the land, and hope mutual aid never becomes a murderable offense? What does dual power get us if all/most land is owned by propertarians albeit at a high salary/resources cost? Attrition is a large part of most direct action land defense strategies but capitalists are the ones with ever-replenishing wallets--could dual power and direct action ever eventually keep up with capital everywhere, instead of relying on making extraction projects cost-prohibitive *in comparison to other locations/options*? alternatively, what do antistate people gain by taking land out of propertarian hands if it is still done through official channels of buying/ownership? Capitalist firms can always outcompete anticapitalists in economic spheres, so buying land is like accepting that 99% of land will be always be controlled by capital. What about squatting, where police are getting (quicker and less scrupulous?--correct me if i'm wrong) and you could certainly also end up in prison or in the ground? Can squatting be normalized enough in a specific community that the normal people there overlook the illegal parts and side with the squatters against the state? could a vibrant squat ever stay intact indefinitely without being cleared or legalized? IF illegal land recuperation ever became viable and widespread due to extensive dual power and extensive squat traditions, what will the state and chud reprisals look like? will anarchists ever be able to kill cops "in self defense" and avoid incarceration? what kind of mutual aid structures would need to exist to be able to harbor and protect people in this case? what would the reprisals look like then? what would need to happen in your life to make you willing to go on the run and live under the table for the rest of your life?
Just some extrapolating questions based on my view of the intersecting circumstances of various types of power and directions of anarchist effort... Every death is another drink of tragedy...
Probably the same people who make sure the only exposure kids get to Anarchism is a brief blurb about the crazy asshole who shot Garfield.
I'm not a very tactful person so I can't help you with that aspect, but I think if you do it, doing it during class is the way to go. I remember back in middle school one of my colleagues speaking her honest opinion about a historic figure being portrayed as a national hero (i.e. he was a murdering sociopath who happened to murder mostly other ethnicities, so that made everything ok), and that just opened something up in my brain that I remember to this day. Until then it hadn't even occurred to me to question that kind of propaganda, and it only took a minute or two for her to change that.
> a person who is killed because of their religious or other beliefs
This is typically what the definition of a martyr is although not every community has this same definition. I believe Catholics have a different definition but I don't care. Anyway he when it comes to this definition of martyr, I like it. I think there is something really nice about the idea of dying for a cause. I don't think it should be done foolishly but yeah. One of the things to remember is that at it's not just when someone gets killed it's when they purposefully put themselves in danger knowing that they will die for a cause.
So for example when a trans person is killed by a transphobe because of whatever reason and then use the transpanic defense, that's not being a martyr because that person didn't volunteer themselves into the line of fire.
I was taught that Luddites were basically Quakers, and they destroyed machines just out of fear. Like they were just afraid of the machines themselves being loud and expelling steam or something.
A Bit More Info And Context On The Murder Of Protester In Atlanta (And Vigils Being Called For)This is the best article I've found so far. Good context and bringing the small amount of details we know about.
[https://unicornriot.ninja/2023/protester-shot-and-killed-by-officers-during-raid-on-atlanta-forest/](https://unicornriot.ninja/2023/protester-shot-and-killed-by-officers-during-raid-on-atlanta-forest/)
Vigil in Atlanta
[https://twitter.com/UR\_Ninja/status/1615873524761255936](https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1615873524761255936)
There have been a bunch of vigils or other responses called for but I haven't seen them collected in one spot. Here are couple happening tonight.
NYC
[https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1615834333956251664](https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1615834333956251664)
Portland
[https://twitter.com/defendATLforest/status/1615803010642284555](https://twitter.com/defendATLforest/status/1615803010642284555?cxt=HHwWlsC4xd-RvuwsAAAA)
There are more called for and more will be called for over the coming days. Keep your eyes peeled.
I share the same take as @freetherabbit on the OP. I think they were just pointing out that it seems that the police and media are placing an unbalanced emphasis on sex, rather than the lying, and other abuses of power occurring daily. There’s barely any news about the 31-year old, black, male high school teacher who was tasked to death by the LAPD for flagging down police for assistance with an accident.
For me, the headlines should have been, “A group of Tennessee cops fired after lying and lewd encounters while on the clock,” AFTER the story of the LAPD killing the teacher.
Read Marx or a book that explains his theories (e.g. Why Marx was right by Terry Eagleton). After all you must always know your enemie, in this case capitalism. When it comes to revolutionary thought, I recommend State and Revolution, Conquest of Bread and the communist manifesto. For modern socialist literature, look into Mark Fisher (Capitalist Realism, K-Punk) and Noam Chomsky (Who rules the world, manufacturing consent).
Books I didn't read but want to are "what is to be done" by lenin, also looking more into Emma Goldmans essays and bakunins texts. if you turn out to be an economics nerd, maybe give wealth of nations a shot. Homage to Catalonia is a great book about the anarcho-syndicalist Spanish republic.
Also I recommend not limiting yourself to anarchist thought. That's why I also mentioned some of Lenins work. There is a lot that we anarchists can learn from other leftist projects. For example what mistakes they made and how we could avoid them. Read as much as you can about the different socialist projects, have an open mind and learn how to use criticism effectively. Effective criticism of (failed) socialist projects is only possible if you know how their systems worked, what their material conditions were before their Revolution, what problems they had to deal with and how they did it etc.
I'm not an expert on organizing though, I'm a theory andy. But definitely join a union or build one with your coworkers. Education is also incredibly important for movements and projects.
The rise in white nationalists and neo-nazis is historically traced to the end of a war, when people are angry, damaged, and don't have a target for their anger. KKK formed after the Civil War, New KkK after WW1, the American Nazi party after WW2, racist skinheads and neo-nazis after Vietnam. The US has always been like this, but the internet has allowed groups that wouldn't normally be able to interact and organize together do so, which has made the incident rate seem much higher, and made incidents much larger. The tension has been building for 250 years, you can see other terror attacks throughout American history on par with Jan6, jan6 is just the first time a president endorsed it. All that means is that extremism is becoming mainstream on the right, which leads to that feeling of tension. When will the next shooting, bombing, or coup occur? Will sitting politicians denounce or support it? Will they open the way to a larger conflict?
Big answer is no, from a sociological standpoint. A majority of people in the US aren't happy, but they are too afraid of losing what little they have, so they don't make a stand. Maybe small factions will fight amongst each other, but the vast majority of Americans will sit on the sidelines and watch it on the news, hoping it stays out of their neighborhood. Without major government support to both sides, there will be no major conflict.
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Serious question: Do anarchists advocate for the killing of all rich people? I thought that was more a Marxist-Leninist perspective. So I wouldn't...murder anyone.
But, to humour your question, as which rich person I don't hate... can't help but like Messi 💀💀💀
Edit: this has been flagged because it seems to advocate for violence. But i really do not advocate for murder lmao I just don't know what else the question could have meant by "save".
If feel like CrimethInc's greatest strength from an anarchist standpoint (it's lack of any editorial oversight beyond a proof read for spelling and a check that it's relevant to anarchism) is also its greatest weakness from a practical standpoint.
A lot of the CrimethInc articles I've read over the years contain a lot of counterfactual information to support otherwise decent ideological points.
(^("Against the Guillotine" for instance has a very good point to make about not giving in to revanchist rhetoric when talking about a hypothetical revolution. Too bad then that it starts off with an account of a group of anarchists during the Paris Commune burning a guillotine as if they were an early example of this sort of thing... When the reality is that that burning of the guillotine took place just a couple of days before the fall of the Commune and it had seen ample use, with support of the anarchist contingent within the Commune, in the months before. Anyone who is familiar with the Paris Commune beyond the very basic level would be aware of this and would have to wonder why the writer had to misrepresent history to support their point, even if it is a good point.))
Likewise CrimethInc is incredibly myopic, US-centric (^(Even when articles get written about things that are happening outside the US, there's often (not always, but often) a very heavy 'This was written by a USonian looking at the situation from afar, not by a local who understands local context'- flavour to it.)) and, quite occasionally, self-centered.
I mean, it's real fucking telling that the CrimethInc website has exactly one article about the actions in Lützerath (from way back in 2021), despite that having evolved into a massive protest involving anarchists (and non-anarchist climate activist allies) from all over Europe and beyond... But three whole-ass articles, a poster and an entire section of their 'the year in review' style article about 2022 dedicated to whining about Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter and subsequent banning of the CrimethInc twitter account.
On the whole, CrimethInc isn't *bad* as such, but some of its contributors are too far up their own asses for me.
Announcement for the evacuation of Mundo Nuevo squat
We carry a new world in our hearts, but not only there!
The December uprising sounded the alarm in the elites of authority. The adaptation of the state strategy to times [SK1] of crisis but also militant popular resistance shaped the doctrine of total control and preventive counterinsurgency. The escalation of state terrorism included a number of processes: the rise of fascism/nazism, concentration camps for immigrants and their murder at the borders, the total devaluation of workers' lives, the dismantling of public health care, laws restricting demonstrations and strikes, the control of life in universities, and much more. At the cutting edge of the repressive action of the state is also the attack on occupied spaces and the anarchist movement. The current government, continuing and upgrading the work of all the previous ones, exposed its intentions initially with the ultimatum issued by former minister Chrysochoidis to attack all occupied spaces. When they realized that the strategy of a single attack produced much more resistance [SK2] than fear, they abandoned this plan, changed the head of the Ministry of Repression and engaged in gradual raids [SK3] throughout the country.
The political direction of the government is obvious and becomes even clearer when one realizes who it is addressing in the run-up to the elections - exclusively the far right and the most conservative sections of society, those who are far from any process of social mobilization and are informed exclusively by the controlled media. Part of this attack was the eviction [SK4] of our squat "Mundo Nuevo" at dawn on Monday 28 November, a few days after the 7 years of its creation and also a few days before the anniversary of the revolt of December 6.
It is often said that these attacks are done solely to tickle the ears of the far-right or to change the political agenda and draw attention away from the wiretapping, the scandals, the evictions, the off-shore companies of MPs, their involvement in pedophile networks and many other miraculous things that have surfaced again recently. Even if this is true to some extent, in our view these are only secondary consequences and not the cause of the persecutors' fury. The state attacks squats because they are structures of struggle that actively and dynamically support class and social resistance, shape [SK5] consciences, give space and a way for sections of youth and other social groups to express themselves, to socialize, to struggle. They are a huge political problem for any government, an open wound to the institution of property on which the state and the present capitalist world is based.
We often write about what squats are and we refer to libraries, theatre, cinema, events, concerts and much more. And of course they are indeed all of those things. After all, how could there be social activists without their songs, theatrical performances, speeches and books? As long as we have identified our daily lives with the struggle for a better world itself, all of the above is self-evident. As is the fact that Mundo Nuevo has also been literally the home of many of us who have lived in the house. Yet beyond all this, Mundo Nuevo is the great home of Organized Anarchism, it is the political home of our plans for organizing resistance, for our most effective intervention to overthrow the existing power structure. Within the occupied space we have shaped our conception of our struggle, our intervention in the social fields, organized our action in the universities, promoted student initiatives, supported the workers' resistances, decided to spread to the neighborhoods. That's how we contributed to the big outbursts like the students in the occupied deanery, that's how we organized the 3d libertarian festival that was such a big trouble for the government that it decided to disband it at the risk of killing people who attended its concerts. Because of the Coming together as comrades and with other comrades we made it possible that the black and red flags of Anarchy are never missing from any mobilization in recent years, while the libertarian blocs are becoming more and more dense, so much so that the numerous and reinforced forces of repression are unable to surround them, to eliminate [SK6] them.
Just as they can't eliminate us. What we sowed for so many years in Mundo Nuevo has already taken root. All the demonstrations say so, for Pavlos Fissas and Alexis, for 17 November and women's liberation, for the workers’ strikes, the students who are fighting. The state leaders and government apologists know very well all these things, they know that it is the radical and anarchist movement, the grassroots resistances that have put serious obstacles in their way in the process of destroying and plundering our lives, as no party, no opposition, official or otherwise, has done. Nea Smyrni, the occupied Dean’s Office of the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, the big demonstrations and the contact of thousands of people with radical politics and actions shook and frightened them again. And it is again the ghost of December that they have to exorcise. That is why they are striking us.
Yes, of course we have always had and still have a new world in our hearts, but it is not only there. It is [SK7] in what we have already made, in what has already been created and made its way into the vast river of raging freedom we call Anarchy. Young and old comrades continue the struggle unceasingly and that is what we will certainly continue to do. First and foremost by reclaiming Mundo Nuevo. The struggle for recovery has just begun and we call on the whole movement nationwide and abroad to support this cause, because it is not only about us but about the whole radical, anarchist and squatter movement. We warn at the same time the Municipality of Thermi not to be a carrier of the government of violence and authoritarianism and to put out of its mind thoughts of alleged "exploitation", which, apart from the rest, are also obvious lies, when the police authorities themselves have already done serious damage to the building, while they have completely isolated it with tons of sheet metal.
We call on all radical organizations, groups and collectives, women's initiatives, trade unions, student groups and associations, student associations to issue statements condemning the raid and eviction, we call on all progressive people of the city to stand with us against state terror and imposition. We never back down - Victory will be ours.
P.S. Forty-four (44) banners, according to the cops, were found inside Mundo Nuevo. That is nothing, not even one percent of what we have done to stand with the oppressed of this world.
Mundo Nuevo Squat |
Collective for Social Anarchism "Black & Red"
(member of the ANARCHIC POLITICAL ORGANIZATION
They used to be the most divisive group on the anarchist scene. Nowadays they're less controversial, though I still think their takes on a lot of stuff suck. Their stance on Ukraine is terrible.
https://itsgoingdown.org/no-war-but-class-war-against-state-nationalism-and-inter-imperialist-war-in-ukraine/
Escape of many demonstrators near Lützerath in Germany, the German police push them back with pepper spray and truncheons.
So I think we're both looking at equal treatment as a preferred outcome, but that treatment, being equal in both cases, is different.
It seems you would rather have this be a non-issue regardless of who did what (having women treated more the same way as men are,) and I would rather that men start to be treated the same way that women are.
My views I'm expressing here are completely circumstance based- cops fucking each other while on the clock should be reprimanded- I generally don't believe that people should face backlash and reprimand for what they do and who they do it with sexually, as long as it's on their time and consensual.
colonized residue of love is what liberals, my parents, or mononormative people pass off as love: lie to yourself that one specific person is somehow more special to you than all the others, perform in the right way to ensure they tell themselves the same lie about you, take actions to control and regulate someone you claim to love, create a property ethic around that one beginners' love relationship, then wall yourself off from all the real love you could otherwise be open to. If love is contingent on a person making/avoiding specific actions its not love. if love can end and leave while the people still know each other its not love. Many people have been starving on the watery dregs of love for a long time--no wonder everything's so fucked up.
some poetic definitions for patriarchy:
patriarchy is when two people who love each other make a decision together and hold themselves to it.
patriarchy is when my mom tells my teenage sibling she earnestly believes their age makes them too young to render meaningful sexual consent.
patriarchy is when my parents grumble and barely tolerate each other in reciprocal exchange for the few moments when they are happy together, and neither has taken any steps to explore the meaning and value of love in their lives, the things they see fit to avoid talking about, the lies they tell to themselves, and the discomfortable complacency they accept every day and believe is ideal.
patriarchy is the idea that love is founded on reciprocity when reciprocity is really the commodification of love.
patriarchy is enacted and replicated through all of these methods every day.
Converting up the TERF/Facist propaganda in my neighbourhood 🏳️🌈✊
This!
It baffles me that people think the anarchist or anti-capitalist thing to do is accept that we can't put non-essential things on a bit of a pause during a damn pandemic because profits need to keep rolling and workers need to keep working. Or accept that we might as well do away with basic community safety measures during a PANDEMIC that is continuing to kill and disable on a massive scale, because people need to be able to go to Chipotle and NHL games. Lol. So odd to me that people have such a twisted view that they think the anti-corporation or anti-capitalist-state way is "back to normal, aka working 5 days a week, with many people not having sick days, even though we're in the midst of a pandemic that is killing and disabling people at extremely high rates", or that the leftist way is "screw disabled people wanting to stay alive. Wearing a mask in public or not going clubbing during a pandemic infringes on my freedom!"
Post-viral illness has also existed long before Covid. You're just falling into the trap of anti-science, ableist, denialism
Not trying to start an argument, I mean this as a serious question; what would you consider the "bare minimum"? I don't mask up anymore, but I'm careful about washing my hands very well, I keep my retail counter workspace clean (like even wiping down with Lyson and other antibacterial products). Is there a certain "bare minimum" that has to be perceptible to everyone or is it simple cleanliness?
Funny how anarchy and obedience have merged
Do you expect people to mask up for the rest of their lives? Sorry, but that's not happened
for any other disease and it's just not gonna happen for this one. There are effective vaccines against covid. Just get them.
I would hate to go to a gig or a club or bar or university lecture and have to wear a mask. I want people to be able to see my face and I'd like to see other people's faces. Communication is really hard with masks on, both because my hearing isn't great and because it's next to impossible to read emotions from masked faces. Drinking and eating are also really hard with masks on. So yea too much asked, sorry. If that makes me a huge ableist in some people's minds, so be it I guess.
There have been immunocompromised people long before covid was a thing, people who have had to be extremely cautious to not get any infection. We shouldn't have to live like it's spring 2020 forever.
I don't remember where I read it because it was a couple years ago, but I remember reading that masking only works with at least 70 percent buyin. There is literally no one wearing masks were I am, so my wearing a mask would do nothing if that's correct.
Can’t expect people to mask up forever and abide by covid restrictions. Call me selfish but I had one normal year of high school, lost two jobs, and the start of my university career was already restricted by covid. Covid has shown that it’s not going anywhere any time soon, time to move on.
You can take the necessary precautions for yourself, whether that be getting vaccinated, wearing a mask, etc…but the vast majority of people are moving on with life. If I’m sick or knowingly with at risk people then sure I’ll take the necessary precautions. Other than that I’m living my life like pre-covid.
Do most here support indefinite lockdowns and never seeing our friends/family or organizing in person? Cause I'm not here for that. Building community is important, spending our lives only in front of screens letting corporations dictate our reality runs counter to that.
Don't worry, the coal industry definitely gives money and high paying jobs to politicians - I just don't think it's the greens. It used to be CDU politicians (they are part of the government most of the time) so that explains why there's still so much coal mining here today (also in case anyone has heard of the Hambacher Forst (Hambach Forest)... that had to go before those villages and the protesters where removed illegally by order of one especially corrupt and nasty CDU politician).
Also the SPD (part of the current government together with the greens and some libs) has become CDU's little sister over time, so yeah. As far as I know the greens didn't willingly agree to give up the village Lützerath and one of their members who's also in parlament was watching the protests and she also reported about the violence etc (and she was pushed herself (edit: by a pig) despite being there on official duty and a bystander not actively marching). It's just messed up but also... it gives me hope to see how many protested
Here's a quick test- put a man in this situation and see who you find more culpable. Is it the single person who initiated sexual relationships with multiple co-workers and their spouses, or the co-workers who consented to a sexual relationship with a single co-worker.
Honestly, and promiscuity-shaming (got auto-modded for the more used term) aside (because fuck who you want, but be prepared for that if you are having multiple relationships at the same time there will be some fallout,) if it were a man in her position, I would have the same view on this situation.
And no one would be getting upset about misandry. Well, maybe the Andrew Tate crowd would.
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Realistically there is no stopping/controlling viruses/diseases. Our best bet is that when viruses do begin to spread our best hope is that they have a very quick incubation period and a high mortality rate so they kill themselves off like Ebola and the og SARS virus.
Throughout the history of humankind we have only successfully eradicated two diseases, small pox and rinderpest. The former being declared eradicated by the WHO in 1980, when there was 3.6 billion less people living on this planet and there was much less travel.
From the ZAD to Lützerath: Tracking the Adventures of the Mud Wizard
Seeking assistanceMy grandfather passed away recently and the great capitalist America won’t allow us cremate the body ourselves. My family is asking each member to contribute $100 to the costs of having a “professional” burn my grandpas body. I’m recently back in a slummy apartment about being unsheltered for close to two years. If you can help, send me a DM.
Thank you.
Short live capitalism.
I'm just curious. You think that capital would provide the same outcomes if there were no codes to hold them to? They would be even worse than they are now if they were allowed to do whatever they want.
I see now that you are actually talking about taxes and not making sure that people can live in areas safely or eat or drink things which won't kill them.
Maybe you are an ANCAP and the main thing that upsets you is taxes?
Solidarity with those who defend Lützerath! Against the destruction of the earth!
I see empathy as something more basic. For example when I was very young, one of my first jobs was collecting eggs at a farm. I had a co-worker who I considered a friend. Well, up until the point when he started stomping on all the chicken hatchlings. They started to sense that something was wrong and started to skater. He wanted me to join in. I realized his lack of empathy and mine were not compatible, but I just know he would make a good lawyer. And to me that is the fundamental problem in out society and it should change.
This video challenges the view of anarchist Peter Gelderloos, who claims civil resistance, namely non-violent resistance against the state, is a futile method of protest and cannot succeed. This script was written by a member of my Discord server, and I agree with the argument made here.
All protest footage in this video was taken by myself on 23 March 2014 at the temporary occupation of the Executive Yuan, which was part of the Sunflower Student Movement 太陽花學運, also known as the March 18 Student Movement 318學運.
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Timestamps
0:00 Start
00:07 Introduction
01:48 The failure of Gelderloos
06:24 Violence as a malleable solid
20:55 Engaging with the opposition
35:44 Criteria & histories
46:26 Activist sources?
50:27 Conclusion
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NOTE: I am not the YouTuber
Does Lew Rockwell exist?
The Divine Paradox: How Religions Can Go Against the Will of God
It's Going Down Takes Over 'It Could Happen Here' for two Episode Dive into General StrikesCalls for a general strike go viral all the time - but what would it take for one to actually get organized? It's Going Down takes over "It Could Happen Here" in a special two-episode dive into the history of general strikes in the United States - from the Civil War to modern day.
Part #1: [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/a-general-strike-might-be-closer-107150615/](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/a-general-strike-might-be-closer-107150615/)
Part #2: [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/a-general-strike-might-be-closer-107200018/](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/a-general-strike-might-be-closer-107200018/)
My frustration with the whole Maegan Hall situationFor those of you out of the loop:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/five-officers-fired-sex-scandal-roils-tennessee-police-department-rcna65121
>Five officers fired as sex scandal roils Tennessee police department
An investigation found the officers participated in "Girls Gone Wild"-type parties, heavy drinking and having sex while on duty; three others were suspended without pay.
Cops regularly get away with murder, rape, domestic violence, etc. They face no accountability for their actions and are left off basically Scott free to do it again.
But THIS! This is what actually gets some pigs fired? Fucking? Sure, Fucking on the job ain't the best use of our tax dollars, but I would rather they fuck each other than fuck over the poor and minorities.
I mean, seriously? This is where the "accountability" is? Where the red line was? Nor at murder or rape of detainees? Not abuse of power or police brutality? Consensual sex and sex parties? Really?
Man this system is just so fucked
Edit:
To be clear, they should have been fired. Not saying they shouldn't. But like, is this really the uncrossable line?
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Cops could be super chill for 99% of an encounter and in the end still unjustifiably kill someone, like in this encounter.
Until the taser came out, I was thinking these were the best behaved cops in the US I’d ever seen, but then some fuck pulls out a lethal weapon and uses it in a lethal capacity.
I'm not the OP, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casas_Viejas_incident
> When guards under the command of Captain Rojas arrived, they set the house on fire with the anarchists and their families still inside.[3] One anarchist, Maria Silva Cruz, survived the fire and emerged with a child, a boy, still alive.[4] Soldiers and police then arrested anyone in the village who possessed a gun, marched them to the smoking ashes of the cottage and their dead colleagues, and shot them in the back. Twenty-four people died during the incident.[3]
> The massacre led to national outrage and weakened the position of the revolutionary left.[5] There was considerable debate about whether the orders to kill had been issued by the President of the Second Spanish Republic, Niceto Alcalá-Zamora. That has never been proved, but it is believed to have contributed to his defeat in the following general election.[1] Socialists, who had once supported the government, began to withdraw support for the new republic.[5]
I'm not the OP, but:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casas_Viejas_incident
> When guards under the command of Captain Rojas arrived, they set the house on fire with the anarchists and their families still inside.[3] One anarchist, Maria Silva Cruz, survived the fire and emerged with a child, a boy, still alive.[4] Soldiers and police then arrested anyone in the village who possessed a gun, marched them to the smoking ashes of the cottage and their dead colleagues, and shot them in the back. Twenty-four people died during the incident.[3]
> The massacre led to national outrage and weakened the position of the revolutionary left.[5] There was considerable debate about whether the orders to kill had been issued by the President of the Second Spanish Republic, Niceto Alcalá-Zamora. That has never been proved, but it is believed to have contributed to his defeat in the following general election.[1] Socialists, who had once supported the government, began to withdraw support for the new republic.[5]
we need to abolish the irsFuck the irs
Some examples of history for anarchists from pre-1900I'm not necessarily saying these are anarchist, but I still think these are cool:
* 1170BCE \[Egypt\] [Deir el-Medina Strike](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_el-Medina#Strikes) \- "the tomb laborers were so exasperated by delays in supplies that they threw down their tools and walked off the job in what may have been the first sit-down strike action in recorded history. They wrote a letter to the vizier complaining about lack of wheat rations. Village leaders attempted to reason with them but they refused to return to work until their grievances were addressed."
* 770-221BCE \[China\]: [Agriculturalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculturalism) \- "The Agriculturalists believed that Chinese society should be modeled around that of the early sage king Shennong, a folk hero who was portrayed in Chinese literature as working in the fields, along with everyone else, and consulting with everyone else when any decision had to be reached."
* 508-507BCE \[Greece\]: [Athenian Revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_Revolution) \- "a revolt by the people of Athens that overthrew the ruling aristocratic oligarchy, establishing the almost century-long self-governance of Athens in the form of a participatory democracy – open to all free male citizens."
* 494-287BCE \[Italy\]: [Secessio plebis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessio_plebis) \- " an informal exercise of power by Rome's plebeian citizens, similar in concept to the general strike. During the *secessio plebis*, the plebs would abandon the city *en masse* in a protest emigration and leave the [patrician](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrician_(ancient_Rome)) order to themselves. Therefore, a *secessio* meant that all shops and workshops would shut down and commercial transactions would largely cease. Authors report different numbers for how many secessions there were. Cary & Scullard state there were five between 494 BC and 287 BC."
* 1381 \[UK\]: [Wat Tyler's Rebellion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt) \- "A wide spectrum of rural society, including many local artisans and village officials, rose up in protest, burning court records and opening the local gaols. The rebels sought a reduction in taxation, an end to serfdom, and the removal of King Richard II's senior officials and law courts."
* 1514 \[Hungary\]: [Gorgy Dozsa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_D%C3%B3zsa) \- "Dózsa and his co-elected senior fellows wanted to change the church and the political system fundamentally. They wanted to leave a single elected bishop for the whole country and to make all priests equal in rank, to abolish the nobility and to distribute their lands equally among the peasants. They decided that there should be only two orders: the city burgeroise (merchants and craftsmen) and the peasants, and they also wanted to abolish the kingdom as a form of government. Dózsa himself only wanted to be the warlord and representative of the people: subordinating himself in everything to the decisions of the people."
* 1524-1525 \[Germany\]: [German Peasant's War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War) \- Hundreds of thousands of peasants in central Europe rose up to fight for egalitarianism and were brutally slaughtered by the monarchs of the time.
* 1786-1787 \[USA\]: [Shays' Rebellion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion) \- "American Revolutionary War veteran Daniel Shays led four thousand rebels (called Shaysites) in a protest against economic and civil rights injustices. In 1787, Shays' rebels marched on the federal Springfield Armory in an unsuccessful attempt to seize its weaponry and overthrow the government."
* 1838-1859 \[UK\]: [Chartism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism) \- This was a working-class aligned movement in the UK that called for the removal of property qualifications in elections, equal representation and annual elections to prevent corruption.
* 1839-1845 \[USA\]: [Anti-Rent War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Rent_War) \- "The Anti-Renters declared their independence from the manor (feudal) system run by patroons, resisting tax collectors and successfully demanding land reform."
* 1859 \[USA\]: [John Browns raid on Harpers Ferry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown%27s_raid_on_Harpers_Ferry) \- "an effort by abolitionist John Brown, from October 16 to 18, 1859, to initiate a slave revolt in Southern states by taking over the United States arsenal at Harpers Ferry, Virginia"
* 1871 \[France\]: [Paris Commune](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune) \- "The Commune governed Paris for two months, establishing policies that tended toward a progressive, anti-religious system of social democracy, including the separation of church and state, self-policing, the remission of rent, the abolition of child labor, and the right of employees to take over an enterprise deserted by its owner. All the Roman Catholic churches and schools were closed. Feminist, socialist, communist and anarchist currents played important roles in the Commune."
* 1877 \[USA\]: [Great Railroad Strike of 1877](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877) \- "An estimated 100 people were killed in the unrest across the country. In Martinsburg, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and other cities, workers burned down and destroyed both physical facilities and the rolling stock of the railroads—engines and railroad cars. Local populations feared that workers were rising in revolution such as the Paris Commune of 1871."
* 1894-1897 \[Australia\]: [Jandamarra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jandamarra) \- "He led a three-year campaign against police and European settlers, achieving legendary status for his hit and run tactics and his abilities to hide and disappear."
Feel free to suggest some more!
Distruptionism: How (i think) Surveillance Capitalism can change the labour theory of value and the falling rate of profit.Disruptionism is an anarchist ideology that centres around the implications of the analysis of Shoshana Zuboff in her book Surveillance Capitalism, on the shift from people functioning as workers in the process to produce profit, to people becoming resources in the production process.
For a TLDR for those who havent read Zuboff's book, people no longer are just workers in the production process. Traditionally people were workers as for a good to be produced and profit to be made, workers needed to produce those goods with their labour. This gives the workers leverage over the capitalists if they organize into worker councils and unions, as they can threaten to strike and stop producing goods.
Under surveillance capitalism, you are surveyed constantly so that your behviours and other personal data like demographics, personal interests, purchasing patterns, to even your spelling habits. Its all valuable under surveillance capitalism as advertisers will pay big money to make it so that they can more accurately market their products and target their ads and so on.
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This reduces you to a resource, in the modern age of the internet and with modern technologies like algorithms which can sort through these massive amounts of data faster than any group of human workers could ever possibly do, means that you are no longer more valuable as a worker than you are as a resource to be mined for behavioural data to be sorted through and produced by algorythms into behavioural data valued by advertisers.
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Advertisers and the system highlighted by zuboff that drives surveillance capitalism is largely the same system of filters on the media discussed by Noam Chomsky in Manufacturing Consent. Though she doesnt epxlicitly say this, though its obvious if you have read Manufacturing Consent before hand.
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Its important to highlight, i dont personally conceive of a way this could possibly be the extent that all workers would be reduced to resources in the production process. It would need to be so that all physical goods were produced by fully automated factories and farms, etc. AS well as the main source of profit being from the advertisers of the world. This would probably only happen in the first world, where all people live with the third world producing goods to be sold to them. While the citizens are given UBI to spend on the goods, and then they are allowed to just be monitered for behavioural data. This would be a long in the future thing however.
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But consider it ever got to this point? what if all workers were to be stripped of their positions as workers. Then first of all youd no longer have the ability to strike, or form unions and workers councils because of you being more valuable to capitalists as resources. You no longer can threaten capitalists in any major way, thus collective bargaining and oraganizing becomes essentially impossible.
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So what are your options? Zuboff doesnt give us much in the way beyond relying on the state and parliamentary/congressional legeslation by the upper class. (while fantastic in her analysis, those who have read can identify certain liberal tendencies and ways of thinking zuboff hasnt dropped, TB to her weird language with native americans and primitivism, and how the only way for us to defeat surveillance capitalism is to just do what the eu did and hope to god your state will not side with capitalists)
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Well disruptionism says that you should disrupt this production process by any means neccessary. This is done in two main catagories of praxis.
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Passive praxis: This catagory includes things like opsec, using VPNs, anonymous browsers, and good privacy practices like these to prevent the collection of personal data in the first place. This also includes simply opting out of a terms of service condition (if its allowed, google for example does allow you limited control its just hidden)
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Offensive Praxis: This catagory is more on the ground stuff. This would mainly be destruction of data centres, hacking into a company's servers and deleting the behavioural data, and other things like these.
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oh and basically this all means that the labour theory of value is sort of upended because like your labour isnt the only way for capitalists to make profit. As well as the falling rate of profit because the automation no longer becomes a detriment to capitalists as they can no longer pay variable labour enough money for them to buy the goods they produce. Instead automation is what is producing the goods in the first place, so you could do something like UBI and increase the rate of profit that way. okay thats all thanks. Im high and wanted to share this cuz i made it up while i was a baby anarchist so dont kill me for simplifying very complex marxist ideas lmao, please gimme lots of criticisms.
I dont fully commit to any particular leftist ideology, at least not publicly. You can see my post history that I interact with a few different communities. I have my own personal preferences, sure, but I mainly just want to help Leftism and Leftists in general regardless of ideology. I try not to force my biases on others and still act in line with the community. I want Leftism to grow first and foremost.
That being said, any move to abolish the IRS in *modern America* is ridiculous. To support that means to also simultaneously support the Rich getting away with not paying up, and thats the little they are worth to society. Any modern, genuine push for this is done solely by the GOP so their corporate donors can get away with even more disgusting wealth inequality. In a post capitalist society, on the other hand, does not need this strict tax enforcement. Under that condition I support what you are saying, but its completely reckless to support abolishing anything without first moving past capitalism. Its reckless to enact Anarchist economic reforms under Capitalism, thats what the Capitalists want. If none of this was true, why would the only politicians supporting this be the GOP and other Libertarians?
mate.
- in the screenshots, anarqxista is defending\* "relationships" between a 26-year-old man and 16-year-old schoolgirl américa scarfó and between 37-year-old alexander berkman and 15-year-old becky edelsohn (\*"defending" is probably too mild a word, even. it would not be unfair to say she is glorifying them as model anarchist relationships)
- "relationships" with these age configurations are without exception child abuse
- the following comment by guery64 is an attempt to justify anarqxista's unjustifiable position via a heap of nonsensical concern trolling and strawmanning with a classic ancap-esque "actually it's epheeeeeebophilia" thrown in at the end
- orthodoxdevilworship's reply to guery64 agrees (with, again, the clear justification of child abuse) and calls all opposition "self-righteous puritanism"
- numerous comments of similar caliber permeate the rest of the thread + to a lesser extent subsequent threads on this subreddit
this is not that complicated. fix your shit.
On this day in 1933, forces of the Second Spanish Republic massacred suspected anarchists in the village of Casas Viejas, trapping families in their homes and setting them on fire. 21-24 people were killed.
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Why do anarchists wanna abolish prisons ?There’s just so many people who are just born evil not everything is based on class or race or the environment. I’m for prison reform but like why abolishment? I’ve watched Larry Lawton he’s a ex criminal and prisoner he supports prison reform but even he said during a Q&A that there’s s people he’s met in prison that should never be let out. Some people are born indifferent to human suffering some people enjoy being criminals that’s just a fact. If we abolish prisons those people are just gonna hurt more people. my great grandfather was a bootlegger and.a killer people like him or serial killers should stay in prison.
Why do anarchists wanna abolish prisons ?There’s just so many people who are just born evil not everything is based on class or race or the environment. I’m for prison reform but like why abolishment? I’ve watched Larry Lawton he’s a ex criminal and prisoner he supports prison reform but even he said during a Q&A that there’s s people he’s met in prison that should never be let out. Some people are born indifferent to human suffering some people enjoy being criminals that’s just a fact. If we abolish prisons those people are just gonna hurt more people. my great grandfather was a bootlegger and.a killer people like him or serial killers should stay in prison.
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That's a very toy-ish thing to do and would get you capped
Cops aren’t supposed to kill guilty people either.
Soviet Union wasn't a police state lmaoo. Pls learn more abt police states and the Soviet Union instead of spouting bullshit.
ACAB storyHere is a personal story on why I am ACAB (although most of my life I was anti-cop, I didn't even knew what ACAB meant until a month ago, thanks reddit!).
This occurred \~30 years ago, so things probably changed since then. It happened that a friend at work invited me to lunch and also invited two of her friends which were cops. They came from work in their uniforms with their guns. After getting over my discomfort at sitting so close to guns (I really hate guns), I started to chat with them and the conversation turned to their training.
It seems the younger cop was in "training" that day. He was called to a room with a large projection TV (it was the 90's). There were two observers next to him, the room was darkened and he was told the scenario. He got a call that a perp, who just shot someone, had fled into a train yard with a gun. He had to go in and apprehend him.
He had his gun (not loaded of course), and they monitored his actions when the video played. He came around a train and saw a person in the distance, but it didn't look like he was carrying anything. He shouted "Hands up! Put your hands up!", and the person kept walking towards him. When the person started to reach into his jacket as if to pull something out, he fired. That was what he was trained to do. The video kept playing, he said that the person then took out a card that read "I am mute". He got a high score and passed.
He then said to us to make up for this vile sickness that wraps our society, "They are training us to be killers!". I replied yes of course, as all cops are killers. The conversation got a little cold after that. ACAB
I’m an anarchist who lives and organizes in Minneapolis, the city that kicked off the uprisings in 2020. I took part in the uprising, was on the scene when it kicked off, and was an arrestee and defendant over it. I’m a union member and rank and file militant and organizer.
This is not a symbol I would use when trying to organize unity in our working class, nor would basically any other anti capitalist labor organizer here. There are many Hmong, Ethiopian, Somali, Eastern European, and other workers here who lived under Marxist Leninist states. In fact, my spouse and in laws are from one of these immigrant communities. These workers do not view that symbol as being about working class unity, but about bureaucratic control and suppression of worker democracy. Even the leftists in those communities don’t embrace that symbol.
Those workers don’t take kindly to American leftists trying to explain to them what the hammer and sickle *really* means.
Okay those black American scholars you read are being a bit overdramatic then.
An uprising is like, Miguel Hidalgo calling on the people to rise up and inciting a 90,000 man peasant revolt. That's an uprising. These were just riots. It takes nothing away from the significance of the riots to call them riots, but that's what they were. Big riots, sure. But riots nonetheless. I know because I lived through one. It wasn't an uprising.
I don't understand your second point there about the Soviet Union there. The Soviet Union was unambiguously a police state. It seems... odd to criticize the US as a police state while waving the hammer and sickle.
how is the sickle and hammer an upvoted symbol on r/Anarchism when it has been used by the most oppressive states in known history
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Call it whatever you want. There are better things to paint on a wall than 'drink cis blood'.
It's not the tone I disagree with, it's the statement. Can I not disagree with marginalized people? Hot take: marginalized people can't just say anything about the socio-economic group that oppresses them. Especially if that group includes allies.
Make sure that the people you're angry at, are actually the people you should be angry at. And that's transphobes and terfs, not just cis people.
If you are being really cynical, KPD did get their time. Stalin gave them East Germany and drove the hated SPD to the west or underground.
Just don't think about all those Socialists killed by Nazis. Or, you know, the entire death tolls of the Nazi regime.
Oh, and the guy (Thalmann) who said that was killed by Nazis, too.
i don’t rlly have a problem with the original. it kinda fucks tbh. will say that if you’re gonna replace it say “transphobe” instead bc the ppl who actually kill and commit violence against trans ppl are 100% cis men and despite advocating against trans rights terfs have never physically harmed trans ppl and hold little if any power. cis men are also the majority of ppl behind anti trans legislature and transphobic men are the actual threat in this situation
When you hear something like "kill whitey" do you think it means all white people?
Revolutionary. Glorious. Fuckin punk.
Kill whitey!
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Yes
Yes
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Eco-Anarchism anyone?How are people feeling about eco-anarchism?
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Thanks for everyone's patience. I'm not all there these days!
Ramblings on what I do and don’t like about anprim and why I’m a confused baby anarchist.In theory, I like the idea of anarcho primitivism. What good would anarchy be if we continued to destroy our planet. I love the consent of solar punk but all that eco-friendly high tech stuff uses a ton of rare elements, the mining of which is also destroying our planet. We could focus on off world mining but getting into space isn’t much better for the environment and it would just export the exploited third world into space. A simple answer would be to transition back to primitivism with an anarchist structure. If we return to a life of hunter-gatherers and only kill and gather what we need then it should be alright. I’d love to live in a small society that viewed ourselves as part of nature instead of conquerors of it.
The biggest drawbacks would be the lack of modern medicine and the reluctance of most of society to return to such a state. Personally, I’m an animist hippy who views death as part of life, we’re here to experience the ups and downs of life and eventually there’ll come a time when you give your body back to nature. Experiencing death is just part of that cycle, it’s isn’t a sad thing or something, I view, should be artificially prolonged. I don’t want to be buried, I want my corpse to be picked apart by maggots and scavengers, then returned to the soil as feces to become the next generation of ferns and pine trees.
I also understand that the majority of society doesn’t agree with me and that it would be wrong to force them to live in that way. There’s nothing I or anyone can do to convince the world to put down there tech and return to the wild. Hell, even I have a hard time spending a week in the woods without my phone. They only way to make them do so would be by force, which is not an option for me. It’s the exact thing I’m fighting against as an anarchist.
At the end of the day, I’m not sure what exactly to push for. We have our capitalist society as it is now and we have our anarchist counterculture. I’ll continue to suport mutual aid efforts and I’ll join protests when possible. As for myself, I’m lucky that I was able to get a job that puts me higher on the capitalism leaderboard then most. Right now I’m saving that money but over the next few years I’d like to get a couple acres in the mountains payed off so I can live in the way I want to live and allow some likeminded friends to join me.
How do you deal with the rage you feel?
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What is the difference?
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So long as you use your time and money to organize anarchist counter-power to be an eventual alternative instead of donating or volunteering for statist election campaigns, I think lesser evil voting in the short term to keep the worse party out is perfectly justifiable. This is the difference between voting and electoralism and most American leftists confuse the two for some reason. Hold your nose and pull the lever one day of the year but then get out and build a better world the other 364 days so that someday nobody has to do this shit again.
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The point is not that voting will fix anything. It won't and nobody here is saying it will.
What we are saying is that voting will give us time. Time to do the stuff that actually changes something.
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For me it flip flops between two takes:
The first is "enlightened neutrality", just staying neutral for neutrality's sake. I was talking to my mum the other day, and she hadn't heard of all of the awful things that JK Rowling was saying/doing, so I told her about it. But her reaction wasn't "ah, JKR is a bigot" it was "oh we can't go around judging people". Mom she wants to take rights away from people you should oppose that. Neutrality is often the same as taking a side, and it usually supports the status quo.
Second one is "the compromise". Believing that compromise can and should solve all political divides. But they don't understand that compromise with something bad often leads to a bad solution! The compromise between eating a bar of soap and not is eating half a bar of soap. You are still eating soap! Likewise, compromise with capital, fascists, and bigots often still involves capital, fascism, and bigotry.
this right here is what does it for me, what brings up the blood pressure a couple of point's. not only do they get to denigrate either the left or right as delusional and inherently risky, but they also get to position their ideology as empirical, incremental, and "safe", all in a couple of trite sentence's, while ignoring the EMPIRICAL reality that many PHD's in the extinction rebellion unambiguously show is false, that liberalism is killing them, yet ***WE*** are the dangerous one's. it's the liberal's that are eco-terrorist's, who are hell bent on killing all of us, in destroying all of this, in poisoning the literal fucking well, yet "mOdErAtioN in aLl tHiNgS!!!"
Clearly the right answer is to kill half, or at least I assume that would be the centrist take compromise and all that
What, Sorry my english is not the best, and iam Very New tô the anarchism concept, i learnd a little about anprim
Ugh yeah I saw someone with a flair saying Anarcho-Marxist-Leninism and they said they're straying towards MLism. It leads down bad paths.
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Hi iam New tô the movement i have some questionsHow would work an anarquist Christian society? An anarquist society could have a leader?
Hi iam New tô the movement i have some questionsHow would work an anarquist Christian society? An anarquist society could have a leader?
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They're basically just saying it out loud at this point
They're basically just saying it out loud at this point
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I think I heard a shot
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Late Stage Capitalism Is...?
Late Stage Capitalism Is...?
Newsflash: Maoists are nerds and weeniesSo this video got posted recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PnBUijltCU
It's good to *critically* (CRITICALLY) read Marx and Mao. I really like Majumdar. I like Newton and Hampton. I like Joma.
But the reason why Maoists fail is amply demonstrated in this video. "The ideology that's currently leading the most advanced revolutionary movements in the world today." -- well, there's the Communist Party of the Philippines. They have been pushing admirably despite being on the backfoot since time immemorial. Beyond that? The Naxalites have been languishing for about a decade now. A massive insurrection of tens of thousands of workers conducting open guerrilla warfare against the Indian state have been reduced to maybe firebombing a police station here or there every few months. Something the coolest anarchists just do as a recreational activity. The Sendero Luminoso has always been a violent death cult and has dropped any and all pretext of ideological motivation. The Prachanda Path folks have abandoned all revolutionary politics and settled into ordinary participation in liberal parliamentary politics, which, after ten years of civil war, is fair enough.
And what else is there? In the West, Maoists are no more than cults and tiny sects. Who are we to follow? [Bob Avakian?](https://libcom.org/article/rcps-current-solution-gay-question) What about [the Austin Red Guards?](https://redguardsaustin.wordpress.com/2018/10/21/dsa-are-capitalist-pigs/) Should I, a humble Canadian anti-capitalist hoping to join a definitely-not-a-cult join the [CPC(ML)](https://cpcml.ca/Tmlm2022/M52003.HTM#4), the [PCR-RCP (Central Committee) (defunct)](https://pcrrcp.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/statement-of-the-central-committee-regarding-the-events-of-march-4/), the PCR-RCP (Historical Direction) (Defunct), the [CWF](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtFBy0QXUAMSnst?format=jpg&name=large), or the [RSM](https://twitter.com/rsm_windsor/status/1342957104689262593?cxt=HHwWgsC52eKXkqMlAAAA)? Nerds and weenies can't even organize themselves, never mind the working class they claim to represent and aim to control.
". . . prevents them from becoming genuine revolutionaries in service of the working class." If you want to serve the working class, get a job at McDonald's. We *are* the working class. We're not leading them, except by being the most radical people in any given liberatory movement, and when another worker has a spark of genius that outshines our actions, learning from them. We don't serve the working class, except to serve ourselves.
"Marxism-Leninism-Maoism is the third and highest stage of revolutionary science. It is Maoism specifically, and not any other "ism" that is leading the revolutionary class struggles that exist in the world today through the strategy of Protracted People's War," -- And this is an example of how Maoists alienate and separate themselves from the working classes. Why can't you talk like a real person? Why do you have to use this weird cultist language? Science? Marxism isn't science and you can't convince me otherwise, because that's not what science means.
So are anarchist movements turning Maoist? I'm certain there are many individual anarchists who pick up *The Little Red Book*, cry tears of joy at isolated quotations without argument or evidence, and immediately join their nearest cult. But those of us who seriously study theory understand that the hierarchical nature of Maoism often sabotages its revolutionary efforts and, even when Maoism successfully achieves revolutionary progress, it inevitably slides backwards into reaction. This has been proven in China, Angola, Cambodia, and Albania.
On the contrary, formerly Maoist and Leninist movements among colonized and imperialized peoples have taken distinctly libertarian turns. The Zapatistas initially organized along lines of Foquismo and Protracted People's War as described by Mao, but only achieved their insurrection and revolution after adopting the libertarian socialist theory and practice latent in the very fabric of Mayan society. The PKK in Turkey, previously a Marxist Leninist outfit, has abandoned Marxism in favour of the libertarian socialist philosophy developed by Abdullah Öcalan from the former anarchist Murray Bookchin, and the Marxist parties of Turkey follow their lead and contribute to the Kurdish struggle, not the other way around. Black Anarchic Radicals have adopted the positions of thinkers emerging out of the Black Panther Party into anarchism like Ashanti Alston and Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin. The anarchist FAU and libertarian socialist Tupamaros are the only going concern in Uruguay. All across the world, from [Sudan](https://illwill.com/theses-on-the-sudan-commune) to [Mexico](https://intercontinentalcry.org/a-look-at-the-cipo-rfm/) to [Iran and Afghanistan](https://asranarshism.com/) to [Ethiopia](https://www.radical-guide.com/listing/horn-anarchists/) to [Pakistan](https://wsfpakistan.pk/), colonized and oppressed people, without the influence of Russian and Chinese money to fund their struggles, are slowly but surely casting off the historical detritus of Marxism for a more libertarian approach. Do these movements explicitly call themselves anarchist? Only rarely. Anarchists do not seek to colonize other movements with our theory, history, culture, and aesthetics. But they are aligned in theory and in practice with anarchism, which is the only movement that has been consistently able to mobilize the working class in the industrialized west since the fall of Communism.
Or -- to put it in words Maoists will understand -- RECONSTITUTE THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF CANADA AS A UNION OF EGOISTS ORGANIZED UNDER THE IMMORTAL DIANETICAL SCIENTOLOGY OF ANARCHISM!
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Enjoy! =)
Decades of forced work then we die
Decades of forced work then we die
His idea of “pragmatism” being social democracy, like every “leftist” that claims it. The entire purpose of the phrase in politics is to punch left, whether it’s conservatives punching neolibs, neolibs punching socdems, and socdems punching actual leftists. It is little more than an indication of unexamined hegemony brain, really
A good video that talks about how we can observe hierarchies in our daily life is NonCompete’s video “HIERARCHY | Synthesizing Marxist and Anarchist Philosophy” https://youtu.be/FmYzbY-l2QY
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>And yes, they're being forcibly euthanized.
the article only gave one actual example of someone being forced into maid, the others weren't by direct coercion. the reason they gave should not have been approved. approving it was ableist/discriminatory to poor people, but not eugenics. I would say the current system is inhumane and immoral but I don't think it is actually eugenics, which would require it to systemically target certain groups and forcibly killing them.
>Listen: wear your mask and get vaxxed if you want, but don't use corrupt neoliberal government to force people to do things against their will. Associating pro-choice with alt-right conspiracy theorizing is just a red herring.
you seem to have assumed my position on this. I don't think the government should force anyone to get vaccinated, but people who aren't vaccinated probably shouldn't be allowed in certain public areas. doing so would literally be killing people. I don't think it should be ok to actively endanger the lives and wellbeing of other people. if you don't want to get vaccinated, fine, but put dont yourself in a situation where you could get someone killed because of that.
(also, if you plan on bringing up abortion, don't. abortion is more absolute. either you honour a pregnant person bodily autonomy or you keep the fetus 'alive' (they're not actually living but that's the argument many people make) with vaccines you can both honour bodily autonomy and keep people from dying, by keeping unvaccinated people out of situations where they would endanger others.)
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