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August 19, 2022 21:54:37
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He got one of them belly bursters from alien ready to come out of him 😂
August 19, 2022 21:30:02
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Depressed, full of hate, lazy and not thinking straight. I'm basically just here for the laughs :D
August 19, 2022 21:13:05
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Can he afford to support two children? Will gf move in as nanny? So many questions.
August 19, 2022 21:11:44
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August 19, 2022 20:44:44
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Well what about people who are vegetative and it can't be cured?
August 19, 2022 20:19:45
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August 19, 2022 19:32:23
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August 19, 2022 19:28:15
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I understand your point and I realized that this post might fall on deaf ears because many people are both antinatalist and efilist. However many people are antinatalist and don’t see life that way, this is r/antinatalism, not r/efilism. For example, I was exposed to antinatalism because of the environmental argument. I don’t hate my life but I also don’t want to bring a child into a dying world.
August 19, 2022 19:27:27
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August 19, 2022 19:11:19
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August 19, 2022 19:10:53
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August 19, 2022 19:10:52
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August 19, 2022 18:44:24
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August 19, 2022 18:39:10
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People who need children to be emotionally fulfilled are the LAST people I want having kids. It implies you don't have the emotional development to support a child through their entire lives and regardless of the struggle. Most people want a cute baby, they don't think about the thankless nature of having to care for a child for the rest of your life.
August 19, 2022 18:37:26
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I understand why people want kids, I just think the basis for having children is selfish and idiotic. You can understand the other side, but still think it's the most pointless thing ever.
August 19, 2022 18:35:54
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Antinatalist and extremely compassionate and empathetic person hereI just want to ask a question from other antinatalists because I know you guys have extremely large hearts to care about the immense suffering life brings. Why don’t we advocate stronger for forced extinction. Wouldn’t in the long run that reduce the amount of suffering overall? Quicker cut off of humans breeding which equals less suffering straight up. Should t we attempt to get into power or office in order to launch the nukes and end the human suffering that is currently ongoing and will continue? Please keep in mind this comes from an extremely empathetic and hypothetical standpoint, im trying to play devils advocate in my mind in order to attack my own position and make sure it’s bulletproof. Thank you for your time.
August 19, 2022 18:16:25
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guiltI don't think my niece or stepkid should have to exist. Niece (15nb) has schizoaffective, stepkid (16 nb) has borderline and ehlers danlos. I have schizoaffective. Didn't want kids before the dx sure as hell didn't after. My wife expresses a lot of guilt about things she passed on. I have guilt for thinking they shouldn't exist. I want to be happy. I want us all to be happy, but we're not. My sister seems pretty unhappy too. She said some shit about there not being a "reset button." Does that mean she wishes she'd had the abortion I'm pretty sure she considered? The dad is, well, he shouldn't be a parent. Same with my wife's ex. Not that I'm judging. I value the relationships I have with these kids, they enrich my life. But they make me antinatalism even harder. Might delete this account after this post, my stepkid is pretty internet savvy.
August 19, 2022 18:09:35
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I bet that kitty had 4 amazing years with you and I hope you remember the good.
August 19, 2022 17:44:07
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August 19, 2022 17:27:58
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Yet all of you are still alive for some reason? To sTahp THe eVile tHO? How many of you are vegans? “Uhh bro don’t gate keep” Ya more like you just don’t want kids and try to act morally superior. Lol. If life were that bad you would have ended yours. Get real.
August 19, 2022 16:53:36
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We just put our kitty down. She was 13 and got sick. It is very painful. I am sending hugs and prayers your way.
August 19, 2022 16:39:53
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August 19, 2022 16:21:15
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August 19, 2022 15:48:57
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I am from Minnesota and I don't get it at all.
August 19, 2022 15:23:46
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So what do you bring to the table? Lol so he’s going to be the breadwinner and do all of the childcare when you have episodes? Kids usually fuck up relationships. Go to /r/regretfulparents and read some stories before you do it at least
August 19, 2022 15:19:19
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August 19, 2022 15:16:07
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I mean they are right. It never made sense to me why despite every reason why not to have kids, People make it their life’s goal to have them no matter the difficulty or the cost. Can anybody gimme a good reason? I’ll wait.
August 19, 2022 15:13:35
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Hey friend. Pets are a gift on this earth. I suggest the sub r/petloss . They are really great at offering comfort. I also recommend r/randomactsofcards if you would be open to receiving some condolence letters. Those really helped me when my pups had to be set free. I’m very sorry for your loss. Just know your babe will always be intertwined with you.
August 19, 2022 15:13:00
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I understood that antinatalism, at least in part, stems from the idea that suffering outweighs the benefits of being alive. If that is true, wouldn’t not continuing life be the rational choice for the same reasons you find not starting new life to be rational? Why should we even care about resource depletion if we’re going with the position that don’t want a next generation? Plus, the whole idea of resource depletion is based on modeling, which IMO is too flawed to make a sacrifice as big as not having children at the current point in time.
August 19, 2022 15:00:34
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More people need to realize that if you have a child your life from then on becomes second. You're children are number one and your life is changed forever.
August 19, 2022 14:34:56
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August 19, 2022 14:34:25
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I'm sorry you are losing such a good friend. I hope you find peace in knowing you gave your sweet kitty a wonderful life. Take care.
August 19, 2022 14:32:16
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What about the fact that a large percentage of people on this subreddit are also on r/depression and r/suicidewatch. Is that not a pretty good indicator that you all lack emotional fulfillment in one way or another?
August 19, 2022 14:22:24
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I don't know if this message will help or harm, but I hope it will help. If it doesn't, just discard it and forget. What I want to say is that you are completely valid to feel crushed. It is an extremely upsetting thing to have a pet put down. It's an animal that you have grown attached to. In a lot of cases, we can become more attached to the animals close to us than any human being. Life is sad. We can't do anything about that. Try to understand that the animal who you cared for and cherished, is now free from ever feeling pain again. As best as we can understand it, death is peace. You did the best you could, and I bet it had a far better life than most other cats in the world. If it was possible for it to come back, I bet it would show you how eternally grateful it was for everything you did for it. I'm sorry if my message came out wrong, I only had the intention to help and lessen the burden. All I can say is that I understand and I hope you can pick yourself up in time. I'm just sorry and I wish I could take the pain away. I'm genuinely sorry for what you are going through.
August 19, 2022 14:19:37
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I want kids and I also browse this sub. Since you find it interesting as to why we’re here, I will share my own perspective. I’m not speaking for anyone else though. I think antinatalism is a really interesting and unusual point of view, so interest and questions from people who don’t share the view are just natural. Oftentimes "trying to convince" is just a method of developing ideas (although I’m sure there are angry know-it-all types also chiming in on both sides). The philosophy behind antinatalism is also just fun to explore whether or not you agree with it. This sub naturally attracts all different kinds of people because it deals with the biggest decision we’ll all make in our lives. In all honesty, reading all these discussions has really made me think logically about why I want to have kids and solidified my conclusion that I want to have several. My interest in this sub is not obsession, it’s been a positive exercise for me. I’m going to stick around a while to dive further into your ideas, but I’ll probably be bored with it soon. I also think that if you’ve suffered so much you don’t think life is worth it, and you don’t think you can raise a child with the tools for dealing with suffering, you should probably not have kids. I certainly don’t want to convince anyone otherwise.
August 19, 2022 14:14:16
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August 19, 2022 14:11:46
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August 19, 2022 14:00:46
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What's going on? I'm glad you asked. Anti-natalists keep coming to other subs to tack their ideology onto apparently fucking everything. Veganism? You're not a real vegan unless you're and anti-natalist. Anarchy? You're not a real anarchist unless you're an anti-natalist. It's fantastic you don't want to have kids. But no one cares. Your medal is in the mail. I'm going to impregnate my wife in the next couple months. Oh, did you not need to hear that? Now you know how everyone else feels. No need to thank me.
August 19, 2022 13:59:03
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August 19, 2022 13:54:49
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I’m so sorry. I’m a huge cat lover and always have had at least one cat in my life as a pet, and I volunteer with a local TNR rescue clinic, so… I get it. My heart has shattered many times having to put cats down. I love every single one I’ve cared for as if they’re my own. It’s the hardest thing. My condolences. Rest In Peace, sweet kitty.
August 19, 2022 13:52:42
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August 19, 2022 13:39:50
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I’m so sorry for your loss. I’m sure your time together meant a lot to your kitty as well. You gave your baby a good life. You have amazing memories. You made her time here wonderful. Have you been in treatment for your OCD and anxiety? It takes a lot of hard work to get the right meds and doctor, but please don’t give up hope. Work on yourself. Looks are a) not everything b) always something you can improve on! If you aren’t working with a mental health professional, please start. If you are, and you don’t find it helpful, be open about it and also it might be a good idea to change doctors.
August 19, 2022 13:16:48
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Sorry for your loss. I know now is the time to grieve - but later you should rescue another cat. You sound like a very loving cat parent. My main idea of antinatalism is don’t create life but do love who is already here. I’m glad you guys had each other. Rest in peace to your lovely boy or girl. I bet they had a beautiful life thanks to you. Not sure if you need this place but r/griefsupport is cool with pet loss posts. And all the cat subreddits get pics of beautiful kitties who have passed if you wanna share any photos.
August 19, 2022 13:12:48
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August 19, 2022 12:53:31
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I’m so sorry. I’m sure you gave that kitty a good life and it loved you very much. I get really upset and bent out of shape when I lose a cat. More so then for most humans.
August 19, 2022 12:48:24
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I’m so sorry for your loss❤️ they are part of the family. I put down my 18 year old cat a few weeks ago. r/petloss really helped me. Was comforting feeling less alone in this.
August 19, 2022 12:30:53
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How do y’all feel about this?
August 19, 2022 12:26:36
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If the goal is to make a difference then yes, absolutely. But theres something going over your head if you think that applies to cats and dogs. R/cats isn't a belief system, and has non-issues co existing with r/dogs. You think this is sad. You view it as harassment for whatever reason. I view it as conversation. Like a normal person would. Im not saying go to a natalist sub and tell them to fuck themselves. Im saying go there and say "i think having kids is wrong". Do you think any movement, any business, anything ever got anywhere by only talking to the people who already agreed with them or wanted their product? Was the north "sad" for "harassing" the slave owners and not sitting in their own pocket and talking to themselves? What a stupid fucking take, god.
August 19, 2022 12:25:43
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August 19, 2022 12:17:43
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August 19, 2022 12:04:44
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August 19, 2022 10:15:40
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Antinatalism is definately more intellectual than having babies because: 1) the emotional drive to be fulfilled by having children or by 2) needing to procreate simply bc you have a hard dick or wet pussy.
August 19, 2022 10:05:29
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Who here has walked the walk?I'm (32F) getting sterilized next month and, while I'm super thrilled and pumped and excited, the prospect of major surgery with recovery time is making me a little antsy. So I'm here looking to see if a.) Anyone else with a uterus has any perspective to offer on salpingectomies, and b.) Any of my antinatalist homies have any words of encouragement to get me the f*ck out of my head. I know I'm doing the right thing, it's just, you know, major. (I prefer this community to r/childfree for philosophical reasons. I already spend lots of time there though, so no need to point me in that direction.)
August 19, 2022 09:42:46
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August 19, 2022 08:56:39
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In Chinese, “emotionally fulfilled” is a pejorative. It’s something like the word kitsch or self ass kissing in English(German). Maybe consumerism wants you to want to be emotionally fulfilled but no thank you.
August 19, 2022 08:52:21
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yeah.. outside of personal relations with you that answer and statement are creepy on their own! major red flag.
August 19, 2022 08:45:25
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LIFE AS A FATAL SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE (with English subtitles)
August 19, 2022 07:05:39
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August 19, 2022 07:05:15
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this post is right. people want kids. Redditors are literally the most disconnected on Earth. 99% of Redditors literally do support an actual, real life nazi regime in Ukraine. Not understanding how people would want to have children is so unsurprising
August 19, 2022 06:36:11
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Just make a virus that spreads and kills kids problem solved if it works for covid creator China then it can work for us 🤣 population control at its finest
August 19, 2022 05:39:47
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You do realize that women who do not get pregnant are subject to some reproductive health risks right? If you don't want to have kids that's fine, but to say it "does nothing good to your body" is factually incorrect.
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As much as I’m against people bringing kids into the world, it’s so wrong of you to say this when she’s already pregnant. There’s nothing they can do now considering they want the kid and your opinion isn’t going to change it. You just sound overly negative and manipulative. I would stop being your friend asap.
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This is inter-state traffic: people trying to enter a major city from a suburb, typically for work. The border roads of the city get clogged, while the normal roads would be regular traffic. Probably a 2-3 hour commute for the inter-city commuter, of which 1-1.5 hours is spent in traffic. So it would take longer by foot. There are currently several inter-city expressways in development to try to address this problem.
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To give you a more general idea — it is not encouraged to have a big family in India. The government has had a 2 child policy, but it was more of an encouragement / guideline and not enforced. Having too many children has been a problem among the lower class, because of the idea of more people = more hands to work = money (without an understanding of more mouths to feed, which the 2 child campaign was attempting to address). There were also sterilisation camps that were set up to address this problem where millions of people were sterilised, but that was considered too authoritarian. To answer your specific questions: 1. Extended families don’t hate or shun child free couples, but they may gossip or btch about them, depending on the family. Some may try to 'convince' them. 2. Having a big family is a norm only in working class households. Middle class and upper class families typically have one or two children as a norm. (Three is rare, four is unheard of.) And it’s not so much cultural as it is viewed to be a ‘necessity’ for work/income. 3. It is not. Some “concerned” extended relatives may try to convince them to try and have more children if they have one or none. No one says anything if they have 2. Sometimes people have too many because they are ‘trying for a boy’, which is a major problem, across classes. 4. No one — an awareness of contraception is lacking, again a class problem that the working class (which makes up a majority of the population) doesn’t know contraception exists or how to use it. There have been attempts at raising awareness by various governments, but clearly it hasn’t gotten through to the extent it should have. The country is of course not a monolith and there are lots of factors that determine different people’s attitude to children, class and education being the major one, and misogyny being significant as well. It’s not really linked to the culture in any significant way, which is sad because it could really be dealt with, were the correct resources deployed. Also, it is a generational thing as well. Baby boomers typically had 7-8 siblings, and they themselves birthed 4-5 children. Those (3-4 siblinged) gen x-ers have given birth to 1-3 children, millennials and gen z, who would probably continue the trend. And this is mostly due to an increased awareness of contraception. This change has only happened in the middle and upper classes of the cities though, since the education did not reach the working class or the villages.
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Why was there not a “might read it” section? Lol.
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Haha .. I work for a nonprofit who avoids paying 'full-time' employees vacation days or offering healthcare until they deem an employee worthy. Know if a coworker who didn't have active benefits until the 13th month of employment despite consistently working an average of 38 hours a week for the last 48 weeks. But couldn't risk pissing off their employer and risking income to maintain housing.
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Holy shit what a fucking shitty response to this. You need to reevaluate your life if you are saying "I told you so" when someone goes through a horrible event. I swear this sub is filled with cringelord gasbags like you who are incapable of feeling happiness so you have to bring everyone else down to your level.
August 19, 2022 00:06:57
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What a shitty friend. Mother mortality in the US is extremely low. She says everything is healthy. The only thing you are doing sharing these thoughts with her is causing stress and that will do actual harm.
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Jfc stop shoving your beliefs down someone's throat and basically telling her she's going to die in childbirth. What a shitty friend. She's excited, be excited for her. You don't want to have kids? Great then dont, literally no one cares but don't rain on someone's parade because you don't want kids.
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You know who else called people cockroaches that breed too much? The Hutu before the committed a genocide in Rwanda. It's baffling how close the people in this sub get to nazi-like rhetoric and just go about their day like they aren't saying some heinous shit.
August 18, 2022 23:46:48
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August 18, 2022 23:22:16
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once people are this far into their self absorption, their mind shuts down most logic. arguing with her won’t do anything
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What do you suggest? Kill the daughter? Since her life is so awful. Should we just kill human being because we deemed their life a pathetic existence not worthy of living.
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Those same men know so little about the female anatomy they’re incapable of finding the clitoris or caring enough to try.
August 18, 2022 17:05:55
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So this appeared on /r/all I legit thought this sub was anti-nationalism, was super confused when I started reading the posts. Like, why is there an anti-nationalist group talking about not having children. Then I did a double take and checked the name again. Had to then google it because I've never heard the term "natalism".
August 18, 2022 16:54:34
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To deny that a woman’s biological purpose is to produce offspring is to deny science
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Exactly! Animals with their "hardwirings" are NOT antinatalists. This is not the abortion subreddit. The common but strange thing is to find people like you here. r/abortion or r/imatotalpeiceofshit are more adequate, because being here while contributing to bring more humans to life *(even if you believe you won't)* it's like being in a sub about victims of alcoholized drivers, while driving drunk every night, because *"it won't happen to me, and if it happens, I'll be sure the victim dies and I will escape, so I can continue drinking and driving again which 'is hardwired in my brain' ".*
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Does he live under a rock? There *are* men who don’t want kids, either. Lots of them. Don’t let his misogynistic attitude scare you into believing that you have to want children in order to find a husband.
August 18, 2022 14:07:37
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saw this in r/arethestraightsokay and thought it’d fit here too, talk abt how some ppl shouldn’t be allowed to procreate 🥲
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Don't they have to pay for child support?
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August 18, 2022 13:34:30
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Typical natalist drivel brain rot. It’s all projection. One must be incredibly empty and boring to believe the only way their life can have meaning is by reproducing. After having children their lives are just as meaningless but now they have a distraction. They get to live through their children and pretend that something even the lowest and most vile people have done is somehow special. By their own admission their children’s lives are senseless and unfulfilling since they themselves have yet to reproduce. What a Ponzi scheme, bring new beings into this world to give your lackluster life “meaning” only for them to have to do the same. So boring.
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I've seen it happen quite a bit. Friend and girl broke up because he moved to Sweden for work and then he saw her streaming 7 years later and now they are married in Sweden together.
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Yet there’s so many breeder conspiracy theorist who swear that governments are actively encouraging low birth rates. Yeah right. Natalism has always been pushed by politicians because new people are needed for their agendas. Whether your body will be sacrificed to serve your country in an unnecessary war, or waste your life away at a shitty job to make someone else rich. Governments need a surplus of human beings and their anxiety is rising knowing less of the newest generations want to breed.
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This absolutely drives me mad. Parents and society at large always tells us we need to accept crappy parenting because they “tried their best.” Under any other circumstance is that answer acceptable? If I fuck up at work and tell my boss “uwu but I did my best” am I off the hook? That didn’t even work when I was a child, did badly on a test? Punished. So how come when it comes to creating and raisin an entire new human being, parents get to slack and fall back on excuses? If a kid can’t get away with it, an adult sure as hell shouldn’t.
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The VERY worst comment on r/childfree I have ever seenI'm not naming anyone but the comment goes: "\[relying on pulling out as your only birth control is\] like playing the lottery. We like the excitement And risk. That is the nature of men. That's why we do dangerous sports." "Dangerous sports". "DANGEROUS SPORTS". HE REALLY LIKENED RISKING THE CREATION OF YET ANOTHER POOR INNOCENT HUMAN BEING INTO A WORLD WITH NO ROOM OR RESOURCES FOR IT WHATSOEVER TO PLAYING A "DANGEROUS SPORT". Buddy, buddy, BUDDY. Climbing huge-ass mountains is a dangerous sport. Diving off cliffs into lakes or the ocean is a dangerous sport. Outdoor skydiving is a dangerous sport. Cave exploration is a dangerous sport. Cheerleading is a dangerous sport. Rugby and American football are dangerous sports. Deep-sea diving is a dangerous sport. Possibly creating a whole new new human being when you *probably* don't have the full amount of resources you need for them and almost *definitely* don't have the patience or will to raise them properly is *not* a dangerous sport. It is being a *massive* prick and asshole both to your possible children *and* to the children's mother(s). Fuck you if you think only pulling out is *any* way to have sex. Go fuck yourself and *only* yourself.
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I know it’s a silly joke but it’s actually true. Babies are strangers and although who you’re raised by does influence your personality, there’s a big chance you won’t be compatible with your family of origin. How many people would have relationships with their family members if they weren’t related? Would you and your mother been friends in another timeline? Love between parents and children are a mix of hormones flooded to a woman’s brain after giving birth, and lots of obligation.
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It’s pretty annoying that this group meshes anti natalism with pro choice. I am pro life and anti natalist. Anti intentional pregnancy, and helping women in situations to increase best quality of life for them and their child vs killing someone you assume is better off dead.
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>we just have a bigger brain as a survival tool. No; seems like you don't. Little head, sex driven. Far from human, near to the jungle. >Humans are by nature addicted to sex (as is all of life) and will to some degree seek it compulsively You are supposed to be part of most advanced species on Earth. **Animals don't become antinatalists.** You are supposed to have the ability to think, to control your life, control the animal inside you. Seems like you cannot, but that's what it was supposed. So you think you are antinatalist, as none of your beloved brothers, the sex driven animals and cockroaches, but, similar to them, you give yourself to sex, except you just kill the product of your addiction and lack of higher human control over yourself. *Breaking news:* **You could prevent it from being conceived!** But it would imply to control yourself, and as you stated, you are *a speaking-and-writing animal*, closer to them than you are close to humans. Interesting animal, seems like not everyone in this world are true humans then, they think they are, but are just animals guided by their instincts. This makes this world even worse. Wrong sub. r/abortion or r/imatotalpeiceofshit are just for you.
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No one cares about the childI really hate the idea that parents have kids for whatever reason or no reason at all but on one cares about the feelings of the child. Then the kid doesn't turn out the way they had wished then they resent the hell out of their own flesh and blood which had no say being here, in the first place. Being forced to be born only to be hated. By the people who initiated all this. You might regret having kids but a kid can't even regret being here, because there ain't a choice. It just sounds so unfair. I'm sorry. This world is shit. I don't even like it myself. Why would I let my offspring experience all this? I don't even want to kill myself anymore. The damage has been done. Now I'm just waiting for the end to come. It's been tears for as long as I've lived. Tears that no longer roll down my face but became part of my bloodstream, flowing through my body 24/7, being one with my system. I used to laugh and smile a lot and joke about anything I laid my eyes on. Now the joke is on me. I'm sorry. Perhaps it doesn't have to be this way, does it?
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They don’t care, women in Russia are brainwashed to sacrifice themselves for children, and men and boys are brainwashed to die for the glory of motherland in another barbaric war.
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Kids will not be worthless. They will be a cannon fodder in next war against Belarus or Kazakhstan.
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No, actually. This pay is for 10th child. There is a payment of 5k-10k$ in maternal capital, for every child 4th, 5th and so on. Most people in Russia live making 200$ in a month. So for every lowlife village idiot - birth is “business” plan. But, because Russia is a barbaric state and so their people- so, many newborns are left in dumpsters, frozen, burnt alive to leave no trace of their existence. And I am have not spoken about religion which have a toll on people’s behaviour.
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While I do wish less selfish and neglectful people would have children, the statement borders on both classism and eugenics. Maybe I’m chronically online, but I don’t like the idea that someone would want to stop me from having a child just because I have autism (which is a real thing btw) or something else that I might pass on to a child.
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The first statement is disgusting, no idea the context but what its hinting at is awful. If you're anti-natalist and having sex it doesn't make sense to me. Two consenting partners are equally sharing the responsibility of a potential child every single time, denying that is just bias
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Isn’t it possible their love of their child is instinctive like lust or some kinds of infatuation? Like why does it need some degree of sophistication? Drugs can provide the most powerful experiences in life simply by swallowing a pill.
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What is the most popular reasoning used to support antinatalism on this sub?So I keep seeing post from this community around Reddit and I’m wondering what the main argument for antinatalism is. Why is it that you expect people to stop having children?
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You are missing the point , i have asperger's too
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normalize having the "baby talks" with your partners before getting married, people usually don't change their minds after marriage. I've seen far too many cases of people getting stealthed by their partners if they don't budge.
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She’s “people” I mean look at her 🤣
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Yea for People Who live in devoloped countries that is True but they all think everything is so bad for yhem xD
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What the hell happened to this place? There is no such thing as a qualification that makes reproduction acceptable. All reproducing does is guarantee more suffering. Likely for the child and definitely for those already alive who will be either denied resources or will themselves become resources in order to sustain the child. And why cling to calling this subreddit r/antinatalism if nothing being discussed here is about antinatalism? Why is everyone making excuses for why their advocated for reproduction is acceptable, when antinatalism is the position that no such exception exists. Is this a takeover from r/eugenics after they were banned? Are any actual antinatalists still even here?
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You apparently have no concept either because you’ve been asked on three occasions to provide a peer reviewed source for your assertions or stop spreading medical disinformation. This does not happen in all cases or even in a majority. If you won’t provide a source(which we both know you don’t have), stop with the misogyny.
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And I am challenging you to provide a peer reviewed source that states what you are saying or stop spreading medical misinformation. Just because you knew SOME women it happened to does not mean it happens to all or even the majority. The previous poster was correct. It happens in a small number of cases, and can be corrected with pelvis floor therapy. Again, provide your source or stop with your misogyny.
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This just is not true at all. I challenge you to stop spreading medical disinformation and provide a source. Not all women pee after a sneeze. That’s a massive generalization. I’ll be waiting on your peer reviewed source.
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Absolutely. Look how many people are calling women breeders, even though the word has roots in slavery AND misogyny.
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The word breeder has roots in slavery and misogyny. Congratulations on your hatred of females.
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Is it so hard for you people to believe that there is even one person happy with their children ? Get out of your echo chamber. They just gave you an example and you immediately decided this person you don’t even know is pretending to be happy.
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Condoms are a thing. Hell, even pulling out is something like 80% effective (still not enough). Outercourse, oral, anal. There's a plethora of options between vasectomy and raw-dog pussy creampies. And it's not "doing their bit." A man who does not want to be a father is 100% responsible for not becoming one. Not being eligible for or not wanting to get a vasectomy does not absolve him of this responsibility. There's no excuse for just flinging your viable semen to the four winds and hoping for the best.
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Well said! I have had similar experiences with men. I tend to shut them up quickly when I point out the cost of child support to the mothers of their children and the possibility of going to jail if they don’t pay. Money puts things in perspective….OUCH!!!!
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I think the “misogyny” they are referring to is the dig on women’s bodies after giving birth. I agree that it could have been worded in a better way. I think it’s pretty extreme to say everyone who has ever given birth has “ruined” their body. Besides the obvious serious complications that could come from pregnancy, most common things like stretch marks, some extra weight, and hormonal changes are not a “ruined” body. Some people who have never given birth still have those things. Women have higher expectations placed on them to look a certain way, so I could see someone interpreting that comment as misogynistic. Still seems a bit extrapolated, but I can see where they would be coming from. Then again, it’s r/childfree so idk what they expected to read there.
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these people don't realize that most r/child free don't mean 'ruin your bodies' in a ew it looks different way but a - you literally ripped your pussy to your asshole and now you can't hold your piss way
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>as a woman, not having kids is extremely empowering yeah, breeders don't understand what misogyny is. I choose to support, lift-up and encourage my fellow woman in her choice to not maintain the normal traditions and expectations that society has laid out for her. OOP on r/unsubbed clearly does not.
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List of reasons why living in this world sucks and why i refuse to have kids.Here is my list. Feel free to add your own. Here goes: Sickness Work Family relationships Dating relationships Accidents that mame you Disease Torture Sexual assult Slavery Birth defects Killers Sexism Racism Homophobia Liberals Fascists Abusive parents Natural disaters War Famine Pandemics Phew. Think im done. Add your own
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Im not having kids. I cant afford to lose my freedom as a man and life is too shit tooFreedom is important. Id rarther retire early and have freedom to do what i want and go where i please then have damn kids. Lifes shit. Work sucks, you do it for most of your life. Your good days to. After 35 your body falls apart anyways. I dont want to sacrife my kids to wage slavery and suffering this place has. No kids for me
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This is one of the reasons I don't have kids. I am autistic and there's no way I'd attract a neurotypical partner hence the kid could potentially have two lots of neurodiverse genes...this and the current climate crisis/socio political sutuation.
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I was thinking the same thing… also I dont understand why this would be posted in mademesmile
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yes OP because you are a woman and you speak for all women? lol you alone dont define what is and isnt misogynistic
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Try improving your diet, it helps with the acne.
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Co workers can be so nosy, what does he care! It’s like talking to a brick wall when it comes down to these kinds of people. You stood your ground and explained yourself appropriately but people like that won’t bother to realize how much sense you’re making. Soon I will join the vasectomy club as well.
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U all suck it. The kid will die without help. “.” You’d let your brother die? Then maybe ..
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Nobody is preventing you from having children. Stop whining and grow up.
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You may not be interested, I may get down voted, and this may come off as evangelism (my apologies if it does), but maybe take a peek over at r/Buddhism? Suffering is inherent to existence, thats a feature not a bug, but the end game is to get out of the cycle of existence. And there is a way to do that, or at least make this more tolerable if nothing else.
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Believing disabled people in particular shouldn’t have children is awful. Eugenics is very last Nazi of you.
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It’s a nightmare. I’d rather to get shot than having a child.
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You don’t know what they’ve been through just because they want children. At 23, I was testifying against my father in court because he spend a decade raping me. I still wanted and eventually had children.
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My mother is calling my upcoming Bisalp “genital mutilation” and is throwing a hissy fit. I’m convinced she wants me to get knocked up so she can have another thing to hold over my head, and judge.
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Fuck the parent's benefit. People should not "find meaning in being parents". Giving birth is incredibly cruel because it is a mega-stakes gamble with a ~20% chance of loss (if you gave birth in a gore hole like africa it would be more like a 70% chance of loss). in response to your argument about working: We want GOOD 9-5 jobs, you will not find "fulfillment" spending 20 years forced to wake up at 7AM and get a bachelor's degree and make only $9-25 an hour, and if you want a salary above 70k (secure and comfortable life) then you need to either work super full time or compete against 90% of the population, and the workplace is filled with mistreatment of employees, see r/antiwork for examples of work (survival) being a fuckhole.
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Why would I want children? They’re adorable and fun. I see my daughter smile and all my problem fades away for a moment. I wanted to create a tiny person who gets to experience unconditional love, ice cream, the warm sunshine on one’s face, first love, finding the right person, working hard and achieving something, etc, etc. This is an easy question. Do I think there is a non-selfish reason for wanting kids? As a woman, I lose so much more than you gain by having a child. Is it worth it? Yes, but you have to sacrifice higher wages, living longer, physical safety, free time and so much more to give someone an opportunity to enjoy life on earth. Most women who choose not have a children, do so for the entirely valid (but ultimately selfish) reason of not wanting to give up their gender equality. In addition to wanting someone to experience all the joys of life, the western economy is based on growth. Without children, our society will come crashing down. Like, you could temporarily mitigate it through immigration, but life as we know it would eventually come crashing down. So you’re welcome for helping to create the tax base you’ll need when you’re elderly and can’t work. You get that marriage and childbearing is terrible for women, right? What do kids mean to me? My daughter is the most important human in the world to me. How did I know my daughter wouldn’t be born with an awful disease? Prenatal screening and genetic counseling. If our embryo had something like Mermaid Syndrome and her life would’ve been two weeks long in great pain and then dying, I would’ve had an abortion. If my husband and I were carriers for something like Tay Sachs, we would’ve done IVF and chosen a healthy embryo.
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Spina bifida and scoliosis. It's awful
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I was raped by my dad for a decade. It sucked, but he’s in prison and my life is great now. It kinda sounds like you’re suggesting that because all the rape, my life is not worth living. Honestly, it feels less like you have empathy for me and more like you’re trying to use me (and people like me) to be edgy.
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You’re basically describing just malthusianism. Which is impossible to prove or disprove.
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That doesn’t real make sense to me as an answer. I mean, anti-natalism doesn’t make sense to me in general because I think life is worth living despite my suffering. Like, my father is in prison for molesting me for a decade and I can’t return to my country of origin (Ukraine) because it was invaded by an imperial power, but overall, I still think life is pretty damn amazing. Antinatalism feels a great deal like secular Buddhism. If you disagree with the premises that “life is suffering” and and then only way to end suffering is “quenching of the fire of life”, then you’ll disagree with both philosophies. But for the sake of argument, let’s assume that ending suffering should be a goal and human extinction is the way to do it is true. Even if humans go extinct, other creatures won’t voluntarily stop procreating. They will continue to suffer. There are a lot animals that humans have domesticated and probably won’t die out the same time we do. All those dogs, cats, sheep, etc. will suffer more than they would’ve otherwise. Even if we say that we’re not worried about the suffering of animals, what’s to stop some species from evolving into humanoids again? Humans going extinct doesn’t necessarily stop the problem of suffering.
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I very much appreciate your observations, this happens to be the first "antinatalist" I've seen purely in search of elevating their sense of awareness and understanding, without the obligatory judgements associated with their own viewpoint. My own beliefs are such that the negative aspects of existence cannot be wholly discounted as unnecessary and unproductive towards the endeavors of our species. I believe that many negative aspects of our experience work in our favor, biologically, developmentally, spiritually and so on. I also believe that much is still unknown of the nature of existence and human consciousness as we know it. There are many worthwhile endeavors once the individual transcends existential suffering, a feat that anyone is capable of once they are willing.
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Letting go of arrogance and ego-attachments exactly like those held by who you condemn as "ignorant". Only the ignorant claim moral and intellectual superiority. The supreme virtue of humility is admiting that we are very limited in many ways and despite this tragedy of our existence we continue to learn and grow in character and ability. A wise man once said, a man who also predicted the very existential dilemma that I observe many antinatalists struggling with (nihilism) said the following: "you must learn to hate your friends and love your enemies".
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All I see is pigs doing their thing to innocent people as usual.
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You know what we call people like you in fiction? The enemy.
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Its called free thinking u pussy.. I'm not brainwashed and I don't give a fuck about humanity..
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What do you guys think of this new antinatalism video?[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcqSvdC7rWQ&t=87s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcqSvdC7rWQ&t=87s)
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Find joy in every moment. Just the act of looking will help you find it.
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She made a series of decisions. Deal w the outcomes. This is not the child’s fault - but that child will probably suffer under this negative, me me me look at me mother.
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I'm 41, I died inside at 37. But I was feeling it before then for a long time. You've been lied to your entire life. You're just a tool for the corporations to use up the world's resources and make billions, trillions of dollars. It's literally nothing other than that. That's the meaning, the purpose of your life. And of course, according to everyone else, to have sex and reproduce so your kids can repeat the above. To infinity.
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Population collapse?I am gonna apologize in advance if my question has been asked before because i am new here... If you are against having children,how will you deal with population collapse? If everyone stopped having kids then population will definitely decrease in some amount of time? I know humanity will eventually be gone but in a faster pace if we stopped having kids? What are your thoughts on this topic?
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What about population collapse ?I am gonna apologize in advance if my question has been asked before because i am new here... If you are against having children..what about population collapse then?...If everyone stopped having kids then population will definitely decrease in some amount of time? And humanity will eventually be gone?
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I'm antinatalist myself, but you guys confuse cause and effectFirst of all before you get trigger happy, I'm antinatalist myself. But we are engaged in a discussion about what the problem is, the root of the problem. You see, kids (and therefore you, and me), are not the result of a conscious decision to have kids. Some of the time yes, but most of the time not. Kids are the result of sex. Sex is not the result of "lets have kids". Kids exist because the male and female, usually the young man and the young woman, like to have sex with each other. And voila, the young woman got pregant. And you emerged into the world 9 months later, and I emerged into the world, and all the rest of the billions of people. By the way, my parents were married, no I'm not an orphan or anything. There's nothing conscious about it. It's just nature acting the way it does. So then the question...can we change nature, and set up barriers to reproduction or change our minds to not have kids? Yes, but the damage is already done. Because most people who have these thoughts are well into midlife, and not naive like the young ones. Some intelligent people get these thoughts after 1 or 2 kids, but again, the reproduction already occurred. So basically, what I'm saying is this: we're screwed. Antinatalism can never become a thing. You can make a personal decision, fine, but if nature selects the human species to continue, it will continue, if it selects against it, it will not. We are not consciously in control. You guys suffer from a surplus of consciousness and suffering, while most people are really just horny bonobos walking around. I swear to you it's the truth. I don't like it anymore than you do, but the truth is there....all this "civilization", all this "progress" and we are just basically hominids walking around having more kinky sex than all of the apes and mammals combined. It sucks, I know. I'm with you. I don't mean to spoil your mood, but the truth is the truth. If nature allows it, they are going to be having sex for 100, thousand, millions of years.
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Many it’s true in global.Some Developing country’s people don’t do good Contraception
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ew i fucking hate people like that especially those who think telling someone to kts just because they don't wanna have a kid to whomever has been attacked like this by a natalist i wish you a good day and i am sending chocolate milk :)
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i disagree because honestly your take is stupid I'm all for EVERYONE to stop having children but only selecting disabled people is 1800s type of bullshit don't be a cunt, i am a bird.
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i agree with this, i stumbled across this and i just felt angry due to the ableism my mom was perfectly able bodied and able to support me and my sister when we were born but ended up being physically disabled due to how extreme my birth was on top of work and it just saddens me that people think that disabled people shouldn't have kids i agree we should all stop having kids especially with how this world is going but bashing a disabled mother just ain't it chief..
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Love it, you got a candy asses all upset. Well played.
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Cause it was forced on me, only fair to force it upon someone else. Plus who am I pass on my alcoholism too if not the next generation?
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bruh that's like so deep man.
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There are many theories as to why they're doing what they're doing. I'm not entirely sure which theories are true and which are false, but what is beyond doubt at this point is that they are megalomaniacs who keep stating their malicious intentions out in the open. It's almost as if they're baiting us, like they want us to attack them. Why would they do this if they were, in fact, perfectly benign? How could it benefit them? It wouldn't, which is why I think they are being honest when they broadcast their intentions. The evil we're up against is hiding in plain sight. Wokesters have embraced “you will own nothing and be happy” with great enthusiasm, but their ideology is basically warmed-over Marxism, so their complicity in all this is hardly a surprise. The Third World is the sole cause of overpopulation, and that is by far the biggest problem facing us. The strain on resources and industries is going to become more and more severe with every passing year. It's not hard to solve these problems, though. I posted my solution to the water crisis in r/water yesterday. It didn't take much effort at all.
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3rd option. Idk my mum is homophobic so I don't feel like I have a choice but I think I might like girls and boys.
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I also have scoliosis. I'm really sorry about our situations rn. Hope things get better for both of us.
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I'm disabled and I actually agree w you. Have a nice day by the way!
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Hopelessness is contagious. So is hope. Been there. Everything was futile and I looked at people like NPCs walking pointlessly around. It wasn't true then, but it was to me. There is hope and life isn't pointless. Certain pursuits are, but I advise finding someone filled with hope and asking them about it. You won't get there if you just commiserate with people who also feel hopeless. Not an accusation, just saying, find someone different and understand why they are different.
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What?? Lol I’m pretty sure people have kids cuz it’s the natural progression in life, same as ya know all the other animals in the world, and most people generally think they might love their kids… it’s also people who will take care of you when you are old. It’s definitely not a pissing contest, have you ever even talked to a parent?
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I mean yeah and the same goes for leftist, right? Some people follow their parents others don’t. Pretty sure that not an exclusively right thing but okay
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I also wanna die but after seeing this subbreddit I'm going to have as many babies as humanly possible
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Oh noo someone from outside the echo chamber.. ban them before anyone has individual thoughts
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Life is unbearable without profound and life-sustaining meaning to develop your character on top of. Perhaps you have simply forgotten how much there is to love and be grateful for?
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At last the Nihilist reveals itself. Forever adrift in a sea of endless meaningless endeavors. Perhaps you could find meaning if you took responsibility for your place in life, regardless of the hand you are dealt. I see this kind of thinking on this board a lot and I'm starting to suspect that it's the root of antinatalist logos. The world would be a much better place if we all put differences aside and aimed upwards towards whatever we find most meaningful. Hint: it's outside of yourself, but first you must unconditionally love what's inside.
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I'm new here, could you please elaborate a bit as I'm not able to relate any of my personal experiences to these claims.
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Why are so many members of this sub so angry, bitter, and resentful? Especially towards conservatives like Matt Walsh? Coming from another perspective I've been trying to find some kind of wisdom but instead I just see angry people pointing and sputtering whenever they see an opposing viewpoint.
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This is because it's very easy to tell which woman gave birth to a child, they take the fathers name because that's the only way to make sure people know it's his offspring as well. Look it up.
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I dont think most parents understand the big responsibility that comes with having a child.I don't think they are self aware of it. It's hard to raise a kid in today's world.
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Has anyone seen Idiocracy? That’s what’s gonna happen!
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I mean you could just say f*** it and do whatever you want.. easier said than done but it's not impossible. What's stopping you from making a bag and hitting the road? New life and all that s***.
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21 as well suffered from horrible mental illness, I can't live like this for another decade.
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They are not. That's like saying hey I stole 1000 out of your bank account but here's 800 back. What about the other 200?
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You can see here why the sniff butts instead of shaking hands. They want to get the dirt out of the way first. Makes sense. This one would do well in a Red State, if they truly existed that is.
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This just looks like the result of boredom. I refuse to believe people are this stupid. Antinatalism clearly doesn't have anything to do with a hatred of children. It's perfectly fine to dislike children though. Some children are great. Some I can't stand at all. Regardless, I care about their well-being and would never harm any of them. That's a sentiment shared by most if not all of the group. What's disturbing is your inability to assimilate information, which will be far more dangerous than anyone here disliking children.
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Even if that is true, why should I care? At the end of the day I’m loving my life. Would you suggest I strive to become less adept at coping?
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Sure, that’s fine. Im not sure that your logic applies to people with an average tolerance for suffering, but it may make sense for you individually. I do hope things get easier for you.
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Suffering based ethics solves all societal issuesLooking at the world today nothing comes close at better explaining the world than the perspective that antinatalism gives you. its because in order to be an "antinatalist" it requires you to have a pessimistic/realistic view of the world, which makes you assume the worst case scenario (better safe than sorry) and helps you understand the cruelty to the world (evolution, apathetic universe, animal/human psychology), and you have to be empathetic to the world around you in order to be motivated enough to do something about it. a combination of these two is lacking in today's world, you either have naive optimists that break down at the first sight of discomfort, and they end up coping with horrible ideas like religions or secular pipe dreams like humanism or selfish misanthropes that live with the "fuck you I got mine" motto, both are useless and lead to nowhere. &#x200B; suffering based ethics gives you a better understanding of the world and the correct attitude on how to potentially solve it. the biggest conclusion of course is not to have any offspring of your own and with the elephant out of the room you get to better understand both the victims and the perpetrators especially the perpetrators, their psychology and motivations and so you get better more effective ideas on how to stop harm before it happens unlike the humanist or the christian naive solutions.
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The most upvoted post on r/natalism is a picture of a little boy asking his mom, "What is the meaning of life?" and she responds "You are.""What is the meaning of life?" is a a vague question, it can be grammatically interpreted in like 5 different ways. "Why did you have me?" "Is there divine shit?" "What is the benefit to being alive?" "Why do we exist, and why do we exist like this?" "What should I do in my life?" I can't think of any others. The mom's answer, "you are", can possibly mean, "I had you to feel fulfilled", "the benefit to being alive is interacting with, caring about, having a close relationship with, and observing/analyzing you/others", "you can do whatever you feel like". Now listen. "I had you to feel fulfilled" is fucked up. Having a kid MAY result in mom feeling fulfilled, but it also MAY, with a 20% chance, result in mom feeling horrible and having a worse life, and it may also result in the KID having a horrible or mildly bad life. Mega-stakes gambles are bad. Don't take a mega-stakes gamble. "What if the kid DOESN'T have a bad life?" --> "What if there's a fire?" "What if there ISN'T a fire?" No, you take a precaution AGAINST the fire because there is like a 1% chance of it happening and that's a high enough chance for me to not want to gamble with THESE STAKES. "But what about my religious reasons?" There is no evidence of religion, end. But there IS evidence that everything is just gore. "But if we all stopped having kids there would be an apocalypse or something!" 99% of y'all are having kids due to personal choice, not some government mandation.
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All the couples I know without kids are still married.
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Mom had me at 18 .after lots of cheating,family interventions and meetings,fighting and screaming in front of me and my siblings my mom vented to me saying that she hates my dad and regrets her life choices that lead to her having a family with him and told me she only stayed for me and my siblings. Now they barely talk unless it's necessary how I wish she didn't have me.
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Glad people are still stupid enough to wear a mask that without even covering their nose even though knowing it ain't strong enough to prevent covid also people ain't having kids no more because it ain't worth it
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Use Reddit lies to popularise Antinatalism(mention "reddit_lies" on interesting reddit post). All publicity is good publicity&#x200B; ![img](14jmyot3tth91)
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I’ve always liked mine, I was 3 months old, added two more holes since then. I was a hairy baby, it made me look at little more feminine back then 😂
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I appreciate that and you, fellow AN. The message rings true from a story I read on here. A boy with an incurable disease who could barely breathe on his own, uncertain on consciousness but couldn't feel pain, and it drove his breeders and sibling to madness. I think it was in r/TrueOffMyChest from the mother who was dropping him off at a facility, because she'd come to hate how he'd ruined her life and only thought of him as a thing, and just leave him there to waste away while the state footed the bill.
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Exactly how I feel, really! We're already in here, so why not try to make the best of our temporary stay?
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I'm aware of how cliche this sounds, but you should just try it out. Try living a happy life. Go to a therapist, a psychologist/psychiatrist, and try to find anything in life that may bring happiness to you. Put effort into searching, and try to find something that may bring meaning to you. That's what life is about for me, because truly, what's the worst that could happen? If you do succeed in finding something that makes you happy, that gives you meaning or some sort of purpose, you'll get to live an accomplished and joyful life until the rest of it. If you don't, shit just stays the same, and at least you can say that you tried your best. Life is about luck, but it's also about dedication. Give it your all, and if it works, awesome if it doesn't, whatever.
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Who's threatening who? I was pointing out that accusing someone of consuming an abundance of soy products isn't emasculating. I was pointing out that big huge dudes that work in classically masculine professions can eat lots of soy products without growing tits or having their balls fall off. Read for context, it's all there.
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Lol you’re all fucking losers, just relax. It’s a family going to enjoy a holiday, they don’t like them being upset as much as you do, grow up.
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Don’t get me wrong I get where you’re coming from but what is our alternative? No money means no workers. no workers no houses, food supplies, businesses, everyone would be on their own making their own properties, gathering their own food. (And trust me that’s not going to be easy when all of a sudden everything is free) people would eventually make another currency lol. That’s how people work and how people have to be to live in a sort of “synchronized relationship”. Bottom line is without workers and currency we’d never be able to get anything done because we wouldn’t have the help of each other. And people would just return to making another currency because of course hiring people to do shit is efficient and life would suck without workers.
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I understand why people are upset and I accept that this not a good practice, but I personally am so glad my ears were pierced as a baby. It’s so difficult to have to deal with piercing care and mine have been fully healed since I was a child. That being said I will not be piercing my babies ears.
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Rmemeber everyone, do your patriotic duty and go do some gay stuff. It you're a guy, go suck a dick. If you're a woman, go lick a pussy.
August 14, 2022 21:25:38
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You're excusing the fact, that she got behind the wheel
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Hi! Adopted person here! Adoption is also inherently selfish. Just imagine paying $20-40k for an infant or bouncing several kids through foster care until you find the one that fits your perfect mental image perfectly, then severing that child from its biological family just so you can have one that belongs *solely and exclusively* to you and putting it in your name like a freaking car. The hero narrative in adoption is fake. Adoption is primarily about parents. The best thing for the kid is usually the original family receiving support, and in the limited exceptions where that isn’t possible, legal permanent guardianship can provide all the love and stability adoption can without changing their legal rights to a wide number of things, including their own medical history and birth certificate.
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how can I be a happy anitinatalist woman?I'm not having kids because I don't want them to experience the burden of existence and capitalism and all that stuff. It sounds logical to me. I've read that women who don't have kids become sad later in life. I don't want that to happen to me. It's pathetic.
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Parents should not have to stay together for the kids. They should be responsible and care for the kids but that doesn’t require them being married.
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I love kids so much in fact I’m on the fbi watchlist
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No offense to your parents, but it’s kind of bullshit that you’re a legal guardian to a child and they’re not treating him/her like family. Edit: You can do genetic testing if you want to have kids, but are worried about health issues. There is also IVF. Which tests embryos before implanting them.
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I think teen moms can have cute moments with her kids without romanticizing teen moms. Teen motherhood is at a all time low in the United States due to better access to sex education and birth control. We don’t need to pearl-clutch because teen motherhood isn’t portrayed as a nonstop nightmare.
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Daddy-daughter dates/dances are a common thing. It’s weird that you’re sexualizing this situation.
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I can tell you as a mom who vaccinates her kid and has had this conversation with my kid’s pediatrician, that’s unlikely. We mostly vaccinate children because they’re highly likely to interact with high risk groups. Vaccines are largely a tool for public health. The US mostly treats childrearing as an individual or family responsibility. If you want parents to consider the public when raising children, advocate that the public care about children.
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Hey, do you have a disabled sibling/child like some of us do? Have you had to deal with changing nappies into their adulthood? 24/7 supervision? The constant dread knowing they are quite literally just existing instead of living? No? Then shut the fuck up. I personally have a severely disabled sister, it is no fun for anyone.
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Low effort posts seem to be the order of the day on this sub. What pisses me off is a bunch of people prancing about calling themselves antinatalist when they clearly just mean ‘I have chosen not to have kids’. The people trying to look clever here are the people who have made a perfectly reasonable choice in life not to have children, but want to dress it up with the term antinatalist because they think it sounds more sophisticated. It’s all just a bit like a bunch of teenagers feeling miserable and without reading anything deciding they should start posting on r/existentialism.
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You are extremely selfish and or a strait up narcissist. God forbid you take care of your ailing parents. And stop blaming decisions you made in life on anyone but who you see in a mirror.
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Wait I'm confused if she got a child where is the father? go with him? but there is also nothing wrong with the son escorting her either.
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HEALTH ASSESSMENT EXAM 1 SUMMER 2022
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r/whoosh There's not going to BE some MAGICAL rich benefactor stepping up to care for all of these fucking children, OR THEY ALREADY WOULD BE.
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What is trans masculine? How is it different from being a trans man? I don’t understand
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It depends. I have 2 older sisters. The first sister has 3 annoying brats who don't behave or respect anyone and I do my best to stay away from them. The second sister has 2 sweet daughters which behave good and shows respect and I enjoy spending time with. I should mention the first sister is divorced... It all basicly sums to a steady household and steady parents or the opposite.(+have to be emotional mature and steady)
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That’s the most beautiful thing in the world. The disconnect. Isn’t that how you got there? I guess you do things different. What you won’t have a funeral either? These are experiences that link all man kind. Be respectful. Especially if you are a woman.
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How far have people gone? Humans make mistakes everyday and we learn from them. We take drugs when we know it’s bad for us. But to push these types of behaviours and normalize them. Just wait for how kids in the next generation turn out. I know you don’t want to have kids on the simple fact of your irresponsibility.
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Or you could just exercise abstinence you hedonist
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You only live once do whatever the hell you want. The ones that gave you birth don't control you. Who needs friends anyways? Most disappear when you need them anyways. It's a solo party man enjoy it.
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"god would make sure everything went well". hi god, if you're reading this, could you not make the world a terrible dystopian capitalist hellhole? no? you don't want to? &#x200B; &#x200B; god does not do shit here and i doubt he exists, he could of easily ended rape and diseases and dystopic societies and all that plagues us, but he doesn't.
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Who will pay for it We should force random people to take responsibility for other people's mistakes? Nah
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They forced you to be alive They should be legally culpable for providing for the life they selfishly created Is it too much to ask that they take some damn responsibility I told my mother when she gets old I'd spend any money I had in putting her into the worst home I could find where they'll abuse her as recompense for all the abuse she put me through.
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Have you visited the childfree subreddit? They have a list of DRs friendly to the cause... https://reddit.com/r/childfree/w/doctors?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app
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Nazis supported and forced abortions for anyone not deemed Aryan enough. You know eugenics and all.... Who else thought like that 🤔 oh yes, thats right, Margaret Sanger! Planned parenthood founder. The fun loving racist eugenics Democrat who is hailed as a hero by modern democrats. Even today, 40% of abortions in America are black babies. Hitler and Margaret would be proud of what the Democratic party has accomplished in America. Sooooo maybe find a mirror. Maybe you aren't as smart as you think you are. Maybe, dumb suits you better.
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I'm sure you are quite the intellectual. You most likely think that murdering your offspring should be a right! And you don't see how that conflicts with anyone else's rights.....strange. I always love the illogical arguments of the pro-baby sacrifice movement. They are so indefensible. The funniest is how "the baby couldn't live without the mother - therefore she has the right to stop supporting it since it is her body." If you follow that to its logical conclusion, then you'd support murdering toddlers, children, and useless/helpless adults- like yourself.
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I agree, having children because you want them is selfish. I for one should have never had them because of my toxic family history and also because of the way the world is going in general. Why bring children into this evil? And it is not going to get better.
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Most people who are pro-life are also pro-castrating rapists. They are also in support of child support. Plan B will never go away. Most states will keep abortion, and if your state doesn't have abortions there will be one in driving distance that does. You are going to have access to kill your off spring - don't worry.
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you do understand that you have the choice to have sex, correct? No one is forcing you to have unprotected sex. There is literally only one way to get pregnant, seed+egg, do i need to continue? Not to mention contraceptives. I dated and had sex for 15 years before my now wife and I choose to conceive. Pulled the condom off one time, and boom pregnant. Pull out with condom on and you'll never have an unwanted baby. If you don't have that much self control that's on you.
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Ectopic pregnancy procedures aren't abortions. The baby can't grow their so every hospital will treat that and it is not considered an abortion. Just to be clear.
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You have your head on backwards. The Democrats support murdering babies, mutilating children, and pedophilia. They can't stand traditional nuclear families and they encourage drug use and unlimited sexual perversions. If you think those values will lead to an expanding flourishing society, I have news for you.
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Moderate conservative: "I don't think we should kill babies as a society. Exceptions for rape, incest, and mother endangerment can be made, but otherwise we should all be more responsible when creating life." Totally fucking insane liberals:"If you don't support murdering babies you are a HATEFUL MOTHER FUCKING BIGGOT - AAHHHHH" Tell me about it.
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I can feel his frustration, I have a sister with aicardi syndrome. If she was born male she would have been fine, but she was born female. Basically male hemispheres can work independently but females can't... she has a missing/malformed corpus callosum. She is still essentially a big baby at the age of 24, she can walk, she can understand basic sign language and speech, but that is where her mental faculties end. My whole family's life has basically been shaped for the worse by her presence. She needs close to 24/7 supervision and care, to make matters worse she is also an epileptic. Thankfully my parents haven't been like OP's but I still really can't find it in myself I guess to love my sister. It can be hard to love someone who is essentially lives parasitically (to no fault of their own), let alone raise them. I do remember growing up I just generally despised the fact she existed and I had to pretend in front of my alcoholic mother that I loved her, make matters worse I'm autistic and am prone to sperging out and speaking my mind when I shouldn't and it has gotten me in trouble. She is currently in a home, and my dad and mum can take her out whenever they please then bring her back, which is the best scenario. They still needed to wait 22 years for that. Having severely disabled children that will never be able to have any sense of self-sufficiency is NOT a fucking blessing, it's a fucking curse, I would ask anyone who says otherwise whether they have had a disabled sibling/child. YOU try literally spoon feeding someone who grabs other people's food for the sensation of squishing, YOU try being forced to change nappies all the way up to their adulthood, YOU try having to watch over them 24/7 because ones that walking are essentially lemmings, YOU try having to adapt your social life around them, YOU try having leisure activities which you can't take them on/can't do with them. Point being, severely disabled siblings/children are not a fucking blessing, not for parents, not for siblings, and CERTAINLY not for them, stop calling it that.
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The most pragmatic and clinical (no pun intended) advice would be to get a vasectomy so you can have as much sexual freedom as you like and move with your hypothetical future spouse to a country where adoption is legal. Don’t procreate if you don’t agree with it on an ethical level. Don’t do what makes you happy because it is selfish and irresponsible. Now, the more realistic advice: don’t do anything because others pressure you to but rather do things in moderation and with great consideration of the consequences. In my opinion (feel free to disagree, all) antinatalism is on a bigger level, about reigning in the rampant social problem of birth and urging more people to expand their narrow worldview as it pertains to the perceived necessity of procreation. I don’t think antinatalism is ALWAYS about literally sterilizing the entire planet but about educating and practicing mindfulness on the problems we face as a species. That said, have a child if you 1000% want to. It’s your choice at the end of the day. You also might find more clarity among those at r/fencesitter.
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>Parents want to put the baby down? Sure government will provide a room and burial materials for them to do the task themselves. They can't bring themselves to do it that is on them, if they do that is on them. It is their baby and it is their burden to dispose of or carry. I agree the parents should be the one's to do the deed, as I said above. But what you suggested was undignified for the child as well. I much prefer that they do not suffer needlessly, that's the whole point of sparing them a life filled with pain. I can accept the guilt for what needs to be done, but as I keep saying: consider the dignity of the person your doing this to, that child deserves to be treated with due dignity. Your suggestion above does not consider the pain you cause the child in your pursuit of creating a punishment for the parents. >Ur a grown ass adult, no one cares if u die in the scheme of things. Plenty people can put u down without blinking an eye. You seem like a psycho... I know if I had to take a life it would linger with me the rest of my life. Here's an example: Stefan Westmann, he was a soldier and what he did stuck with him for the rest of his life. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/wkgphi/german\_soldier\_from\_the\_first\_world\_war/
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