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I would say, the large amount of guns is actually a sign of the pure pantswetting cowardice most ammmosexuals exhibit. These people are cowards, not soldiers.
I believe the children are my future
They can change my oil and cut my hair
They can find the tapeworm that I have inside
Give them a sense of pride
So I can crush it
Let the children's wailing
Remind me of my ROI
I decided long ago
Never to live in any neighbor's shadow
If I fail if I succeed
At least I made those little shits bleed
No matter what they take from me
They can't take away my currency!
Because the greatest
Love of all is staring back at me
I found the greatest
Love of all in my bathroom mirror
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Faith in Humanity as it applies to Collapse and a Potential Post-Collapse ParadiseIt seems people dont realize that the world on the other side of collapse has the potential to be infinitely more beautiful than this one.
Have you ever, as a kid, been walking in a public park and been deep enough into it where you could suddenly pretend youre in a totally different, completely natural world? Only to continue walking to find an edge/fence with suburbs or private property of some kind that cuts your adventure short? This is an immense feeling of loss, of disappointment with the world itself, with humanity.
Why isnt food everywhere anymore? Why is it only inside guarded buildings? Why isnt it right outside our homes, something as essential for life as food? Couldnt anyone boss us around and tell us what to do our whole lives insofar as we are disconnected from the earth and its food? Have you ever tasted fresh picked strawberries and noticed they taste many times better than anything that has gone through a shipping process? Wouldnt all of our food taste worse after shipping? Why do we insist on monocrops and a vast cumbersome shipping infrastructure rather than growing food right where we live? Isnt any other arrangement doomed for control, for centralized power exploiting/manipulating the populace?
Would a world where there was food grown everywhere be better or worse than this current one? Wouldnt it be a liberation of the tyranny of slaving away for someone else in order to stay alive? Edible vegetation, *everywhere*. And, if the method of agricultural was regenerative, we could, as a species, utterly reverse the damage done and even bring forth more life and beauty than was around before our arrival here.
What if people only had to spend two hours a day tending to their homes and gardens to stay alive, allowing for the other time to be spent however they wished? Carving pottery and silverware, woodwork on their own homes, building their own homes, sewing their own clothing, making music, making love, writing books, writing poetry, playing games of their own designs whether intellectual or physical, exploring the realm of non-digital analogue inventions much more deeply (steampunk esque), inventing new analogue musical instruments, exploring a landscape without the notion of private property nor one with invisible behavior regulating fields everywhere called 'laws' (you can only do X kind of human activity on this particular area of earth)..
Imagine if you could explore the entire planet by foot and boat with no legal hinderances anywhere. Where you would always be able to find some shelter and warmth, because humanity has shifted to an operating paradigm of love rather than fear.
Where there was no more light pollution. You can see the beauty of the night sky again. Real physical human comminity exists again. All of your relationships shift to a real, analogue sphere of engagement rather than a faux, digital parasocial sphere..
The sounds of birds and insects returns. The sound of children laughing and playing wherever they please (dogs too), unworried about being run over by a vehicle nor where they can and cannot play. No more uber safe, uber boring designated areas called 'playgrounds' as we know them. Rather, the whole world becomes the playground. Wildlife returns, bees birds flowers trees forests.. everything that makes this place beautiful given a new opportunity to return. No more production of plastic waste and garbage in psychotic amounts. No more time spent wasted on the abject immoral slavery that is RENT. No more homelessness because private property is no longer enforced by the brute force power arm of a state. People rather COMMINICATE with each other to sort out living arrangements with the people around them, not just waving a document in front of someones face and calling the police.
Imagine if everyone decided the way that was most fun to live their lives was to contribute their own gifts to the world by adding to its beauty. If every individual had a commitment to life and love and beauty. This place would be paradise. Forget 'the breath of the wild' or 'the shire' or ancient greece or whatever, it would be unimagineably more beautiful than any of our current shoddy fictional or historical productions.
Use your imagination more, everyone. This current world is a sorry, sorry imagining. The dumbest possible arrangement we could manage, in fact. I could say much more about this better world, and how it compares to this current one. In every possible dimension of human exprience, it would be vastly more enjoyable.
There is nothing but longing in my heart concerning collapse. All of this, of course, requires that humanity undergo a very rapid evolution in their emotional intelligence and general awareness... but that is precisely what I believe collapse is: a catalyst for our collective evolution through a shared global trauma initiation and undeniable demonstration (the horrors are mounting) of the failure of our beliefs and attitudes that led us to collapse. A new belief is necessary - that human nature is essentially good. That life, existence itself, is essentially good. A new kind of faith - not in a particular god, ideology, set of beliefs, -ism or system of human managing, no... a sheer faith in the goodness of the fact of existence itself. Of life itself. Because it exists.
Is existence a good thing or a bad thing, essentially? What say you?
The implications/extrapolations of your answer informs the core of your reality and behavior, of what you believe is possible and impossible, whether you know this or not. We must have faith in life again, in ourselves, in humans. The real collapse happened ages ago, when we lost this essential faith in life, and we have merely been playing out the consequences of this loss for all of our written history. Collapse is the culmination of our absence of faith in humanity. We either will regain it, and paradise will ensue, or we will inevitably commit species wide suicide. I believe in the former, because human beings are adaptable, resiliant, beautiful, and have been longing to love each other and reunite with their fellow brothers and sisters for a very long time now. That longing seeks fulfillment, which is fast approaching. The age of seperation has nearly reached its zenith.
Consider this deeply, if you would: Could we have ever made this world paradise from a place of faithlessness in our own species and selves? What were our expectations, exactly? Isnt it obvious that only a dystopia could be generated from such faithlessness in ourselves?
And, inversely, what kind of world would a faith in humanity bring about? Where we essentially trusted each other and ourselves instead of essentially distrusting? This current one is based on faithlessness in ourselves, and lo and behold it is collapsing and is a living hell.
Let us try having faith in each other and see what happens. We havent tried it for a very, very long time. No more power heirarchies, no more states, no more systems of reward and punishment, laws upheld by threat of violent force,.. no. We need a friendship orientation with existence again, with life on this planet, with each other, with ourselves.
Paradise or oblivion awaits, oh faithless ones.
Faith in Humanity as it applies to Collapse and a Potential Post-Collapse ParadiseIt seems people dont realize that the world on the other side of collapse has the potential to be infinitely more beautiful than this one.
Have you ever, as a kid, been walking in a public park and been deep enough into it where you could suddenly pretend youre in a totally different, completely natural world? Only to continue walking to find an edge/fence with suburbs or private property of some kind that cuts your adventure short? This is an immense feeling of loss, of disappointment with the world itself, with humanity.
Why isnt food everywhere anymore? Why is it only inside guarded buildings? Why isnt it right outside our homes, something as essential for life as food? Couldnt anyone boss us around and tell us what to do our whole lives insofar as we are disconnected from the earth and its food? Have you ever tasted fresh picked strawberries and noticed they taste many times better than anything that has gone through a shipping process? Wouldnt all of our food taste worse after shipping? Why do we insist on monocrops and a vast cumbersome shipping infrastructure rather than growing food right where we live? Isnt any other arrangement doomed for control, for centralized power exploiting/manipulating the populace?
Would a world where there was food grown everywhere be better or worse than this current one? Wouldnt it be a liberation of the tyranny of slaving away for someone else in order to stay alive? Edible vegetation, *everywhere*. And, if the method of agricultural was regenerative, we could, as a species, utterly reverse the damage done and even bring forth more life and beauty than was around before our arrival here.
What if people only had to spend two hours a day tending to their homes and gardens to stay alive, allowing for the other time to be spent however they wished? Carving pottery and silverware, woodwork on their own homes, building their own homes, sewing their own clothing, making music, making love, writing books, writing poetry, playing games of their own designs whether intellectual or physical, exploring the realm of non-digital analogue inventions much more deeply (steampunk esque), inventing new analogue musical instruments, exploring a landscape without the notion of private property nor one with invisible behavior regulating fields everywhere called 'laws' (you can only do X kind of human activity on this particular area of earth)..
Imagine if you could explore the entire planet by foot and boat with no legal hinderances anywhere. Where you would always be able to find some shelter and warmth, because humanity has shifted to an operating paradigm of love rather than fear.
Where there was no more light pollution. You can see the beauty of the night sky again. Real physical human comminity exists again. All of your relationships shift to a real, analogue sphere of engagement rather than a faux, digital parasocial sphere..
The sounds of birds and insects returns. The sound of children laughing and playing wherever they please (dogs too), unworried about being run over by a vehicle nor where they can and cannot play. No more uber safe, uber boring designated areas called 'playgrounds' as we know them. Rather, the whole world becomes the playground. Wildlife returns, bees birds flowers trees forests.. everything that makes this place beautiful given a new opportunity to return. No more production of plastic waste and garbage in psychotic amounts. No more time spent wasted on the abject immoral slavery that is RENT. No more homelessness because private property is no longer enforced by the brute force power arm of a state. People rather COMMINICATE with each other to sort out living arrangements with the people around them, not just waving a document in front of someones face and calling the police.
Imagine if everyone decided the way that was most fun to live their lives was to contribute their own gifts to the world by adding to its beauty. If every individual had a commitment to life and love and beauty. This place would be paradise. Forget 'the breath of the wild' or 'the shire' or ancient greece or whatever, it would be unimagineably more beautiful than any of our current shoddy fictional or historical productions.
Use your imagination more, everyone. This current world is a sorry, sorry imagining. The dumbest possible arrangement we could manage, in fact. I could say much more about this better world, and how it compares to this current one. In every possible dimension of human exprience, it would be vastly more enjoyable.
There is nothing but longing in my heart concerning collapse. All of this, of course, requires that humanity undergo a very rapid evolution in their emotional intelligence and general awareness... but that is precisely what I believe collapse is: a catalyst for our collective evolution through a shared global trauma initiation and undeniable demonstration (the horrors are mounting) of the failure of our beliefs and attitudes that led us to collapse. A new belief is necessary - that human nature is essentially good. That life, existence itself, is essentially good. A new kind of faith - not in a particular god, ideology, set of beliefs, -ism or system of human managing, no... a sheer faith in the goodness of the fact of existence itself. Of life itself. Because it exists.
Is existence a good thing or a bad thing, essentially? What say you?
The implications/extrapolations of your answer informs the core of your reality and behavior, of what you believe is possible and impossible, whether you know this or not. We must have faith in life again, in ourselves, in humans. The real collapse happened ages ago, when we lost this essential faith in life, and we have merely been playing out the consequences of this loss for all of our written history. Collapse is the culmination of our absence of faith in humanity. We either will regain it, and paradise will ensue, or we will inevitably commit species wide suicide. I believe in the former, because human beings are adaptable, resiliant, beautiful, and have been longing to love each other and reunite with their fellow brothers and sisters for a very long time now. That longing seeks fulfillment, which is fast approaching. The age of seperation has nearly reached its zenith.
Consider this deeply, if you would: Could we have ever made this world paradise from a place of faithlessness in our own species and selves? What were our expectations, exactly? Isnt it obvious that only a dystopia could be generated from such faithlessness in ourselves?
And, inversely, what kind of world would a faith in humanity bring about? Where we essentially trusted each other and ourselves instead of essentially distrusting? This current one is based on faithlessness in ourselves, and lo and behold it is collapsing and is a living hell.
Let us try having faith in each other and see what happens. We havent tried it for a very, very long time. No more power heirarchies, no more states, no more systems of reward and punishment, laws upheld by threat of violent force,.. no. We need a friendship orientation with existence again, with life on this planet, with each other, with ourselves.
Paradise or oblivion awaits, oh faithless ones.
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Affluence is the issue...NOT Capitalism.[https://phys.org/news/2020-06-affluence-planet-scientists.html](https://phys.org/news/2020-06-affluence-planet-scientists.html)
Finally, an article that begins to source the blame for Collapse more on the human desire for comfort and ease (a good thing), rather than SOLELY due to the economic system (a bad thing). Yes, greed, profits and all the rest are contributing factors. But so is modern medicine, technological advances (especially in agriculture), universal education, and dozens of other variables.
One might even say that man is a VICTIM of his own Success over Nature. I mean, the discovery of the polio vaccine wasn't motivated by capitalism or socialism. It was motivated in the least in some part out of an impulse to decrease human suffering. It succeeded. People lived longer. More mouths to feed. More naked apes to root around seekingt comfort.
The problem is, our cultures did not adapt quickly enough to the problems posed by our affluence. It's a sophisticated issue, IMHO, not reduceable to a slogan and/or an economic system. Or am I wront.
Affluence is the issue...NOT Capitalism.[https://phys.org/news/2020-06-affluence-planet-scientists.html](https://phys.org/news/2020-06-affluence-planet-scientists.html)
Finally, an article that begins to source the blame for Collapse more on the human desire for comfort and ease (a good thing), rather than SOLELY due to the economic system (a bad thing). Yes, greed, profits and all the rest are contributing factors. But so is modern medicine, technological advances (especially in agriculture), universal education, and dozens of other variables.
One might even say that man is a VICTIM of his own Success over Nature. I mean, the discovery of the polio vaccine wasn't motivated by capitalism or socialism. It was motivated in the least in some part out of an impulse to decrease human suffering. It succeeded. People lived longer. More mouths to feed. More naked apes to root around seekingt comfort.
The problem is, our cultures did not adapt quickly enough to the problems posed by our affluence. It's a sophisticated issue, IMHO, not reduceable to a slogan and/or an economic system. Or am I wront.
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Absolutely terrifiedTitle says enough. I’m absolutely, horrified, and terrified. Trump might get indicted, causing mass protest. France is already in full blown riots. Mexico might join BRICS and cause US military intervention. East Palestine is only getting worse. The US has started subsidizing chip and semi conductor factories in Ohio (could this be a sign of us trying to become separated from Taiwan?) US military has said to start preparing for war with China by 2025. A new trend of nearshoring has started where manufacturing is leaving China and moving to Mexico. Protests in Athens. SVB collapse is basically going to ruin the economy. Credit Suisse in essence has collapsed. The government is relying on Buffet to save us all. The bond market is screwed and banks are all going to go under from bank runs.
The only thing I can think of doing is buying natural resources and deregulated currencies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
Absolutely terrifiedTitle says enough. I’m absolutely, horrified, and terrified. Trump might get indicted, causing mass protest. France is already in full blown riots. Mexico might join BRICS and cause US military intervention. East Palestine is only getting worse. The US has started subsidizing chip and semi conductor factories in Ohio (could this be a sign of us trying to become separated from Taiwan?) US military has said to start preparing for war with China by 2025. A new trend of nearshoring has started where manufacturing is leaving China and moving to Mexico. Protests in Athens. SVB collapse is basically going to ruin the economy. Credit Suisse in essence has collapsed. The government is relying on Buffet to save us all. The bond market is screwed and banks are all going to go under from bank runs.
The only thing I can think of doing is buying natural resources and deregulated currencies. What the hell am I supposed to do?
You can leave (if the transport company will let you on) you just won’t be let in on the other side and will go into the illegal immigration limbo and probably returned home. You could travel illegally but you know you might be given better treatment by the authorities if they are worried about PR but don’t expect to be treated special because you are American. Check carefully the countries you travel to if you are LGBQT because some might seem ‘liberal’ because tourists visit them but they are dangerous.
why permafrost melting may doom solar energy investmenti fear the permafrost in canada greenland russia melts so fast
to release so much methane, carbon, toxins *and old disease?*,
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/03/permafrost-mercury-toxic-arctic-carbon-canada/673428/
that mankind will have little choice but to block out sunlight
in a desperate attempt to keep remaining permafrost frozen.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/what-is-solar-geoengineering-sunlight-reflection-risks-and-benefits.html
of course, less sun means more artificial light energy used to
grow crops, which will leave most poor and livestock starving.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/briankateman/2020/07/14/is-the-future-of-farming-indoors/
we currently have no viable solution out of this death spiral.
humans will resist needed attempts to limit consumerism, and
even if nuclear fusion is viable in 30 years, it will be far too late.
You need money to bootstrap. Without it you're stuck where you are ....until emergency comes and then you'll drop lower.
However poor you are, you can live poorer. I started out below minimum wage. While my coworkers lived in cheap housing I chose to sleep in old cars, migrant labor camps, slums, and a tent in the woods. Putting aside half my income, accumulated enough to pay my way through voc-tech school. When that failed repeated the labor/frugal/save try-again cycle.
Second attempt succeeded. Since that method works I continued living on half my income and used my growing cash reserve for surprise emergencies & opportunities. With ready cash life relaxes and moves your way; never fear being fired, always ready to accept opportunities far away.
That's reality. You either take the pain up front or it stretches out forever.
It was swapped for junkyard tranny of the same vintage.
You're not alone. I don't feel like I have a place in society anymore with how selfish and stupid the vast majority of people have revealed themselves to be. I'm going to a small live band show to support my friend tonight, haven't done anything like it in a while, and I already know I'm going to be the only person wearing a mask, and that people will look at me like I have three heads. Oh well, enjoy your brain damage is what I say to them 🤷
You misspelled shithole.
I’m in central Scotland. I got a bursary to train about £500 a month- you don’t have to pay this back. In Scotland the nursing degree takes 3 years, but you specialise from year 2. As a psychiatric nurse I don’t do a lot of medical stuff- don’t do IVs, stitches, catheters- anything medical related we send our patients to the medical hospital with a psychiatric escort.
I am trained in counselling skills and therapy- basic life support,bloods, blood pressure and diabetes monitoring, some wound care but not what a trained adult nurse could do. I’ve never attended a code or anything, but I have seen a few suicide attempts and even cut someone down who was hanging (they survived).
I couldn’t go into an er and work, I don’t have the skills. But it’s harder to get on the mental health course.
But I am trained in family therapy, violence and aggression, psychiatric pharmacology, MAPPA (for patients that have committed crimes due do being psychotic) it’s a different kind of tough
I have been nursing 5 years and earn £35000 - $42647.56. I have no debt from my nursing degree- it was free and they paid me £500 a month. It’s about average wage for Scotland.
Location: Rural Midwestern USA
So...local fire department shared a post on Facebook that was quite harrowing and depressing. Basically, they're having trouble finding new blood to hire and the volunteer departments are quickly becoming extinct. Apparently, ~20 years ago you had so many guys eager to be a firefighter that it was basically competitive, and now they can hardly scrape together enough people for one shift, as the older guys age out. I'm not sure why I needed this written in black and white for me to catch it...my dad and grandfather were both firefighters, and even when I was kid, the department *was* larger. Ironically, they just set a record last year for most calls ever...so this is not a good mix, for anyone.
The police department is having a similarly hard time hiring, but we all know there's a lot more to that. I will say it's kind of surprising because in an area like this, 80% of your crime is gonna be meth and petty theft related, and it pays significantly more than most jobs in town. To my knowledge, no cop has ever been killed or seriously injured here.
This all goes back to the same point, that collapse has basically already commenced for rural America. I can't claim to know how things are in the cities, but small towns like mine are on their last leg. Businesses have closed in the past 5 years and stayed empty, there is essentially no community left in any sense of the word, there's nothing to do and no way to meet people, and now even "essential workers" are becoming rare.
The post on FB I mentioned made a good point, that the "someone else will do it" mentality is quickly becoming false. If *you* think to do it, you probably should, because it's honestly not too likely someone else will. I figured this out after months of walking past the same litter...no one else is gonna pick it up if I don't, apparently. No one else cares about helping the multitude of stray cats, save for one or two other women. No one cares about rejuvenating this community either and breathing life into the town, let alone *serving* their community. It's a pretty somber state of affairs.
This is going to a hot take but I feel like my generation wasn't brought up to serve their community. I was born in '99 and still don't know if I'm a baby millennial or an old Gen Z, but either way, it seems to me like even today's preteens are more receptive to helping others than the average early 20-something. The vast majority of people I know taking time out of their day for volunteering and bettering the community are 60+.
Please refrain from talking about matters you have no knowledge about.
Please refrain from talking about matters you have no knowledge about.
You'll get bulldozed, and apparently you won't even see it coming.
Corporations are above all else, organizations of people. They are better at organizing than you are, or else the current status quo wouldn't exist. They know more than you do about advertisement and propaganda to convince people who *should* take your side that they need to help the corporation instead. They'll break any rules you think you and people like you will enforce, knowing that they can get get away with it.
There are only two forces that have demonstrated the ability, in the real world, to even potentially balance commerce, government and religion. And even their ability to balance it is being strained. Eliminate them from the equation and you will not be freed, you will be enslaved, because the only remaining center of power is immune to any opposition you're capable of.
Governments allow regulatory capture and cronyism, not competitive free trade. Try again, genius.
Governments allow regulatory capture and cronyism, not competitive free trade. Try again, genius.
Clearly you don’t have any idea what it’s like so stfu
Clearly you don’t have any idea what it’s like so stfu
You need money to bootstrap. Without it you're stuck where you are ....until emergency comes and then you'll drop lower.
However poor you are, you can live poorer. I started out below minimum wage. While my coworkers lived in cheap housing I chose to sleep in old cars, migrant labor camps, slums, and a tent in the woods. Putting aside half my income, accumulated enough to pay my way through voc-tech school. When that failed repeated the labor/frugal/save try-again cycle.
Second attempt succeeded. Since that method works I continued living on half my income and used my growing cash reserve for surprise emergencies & opportunities. With ready cash life relaxes and moves your way; never fear being fired, always ready to accept opportunities far away.
That's reality. You either take the pain up front or it stretches out forever.
Wishing you were born rich doesn't do you any good. Either take what you have and build on it or stay the way you are.
If you don't change you'll have the majority as company.
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/MechanicalDanimal:
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How this is collapse-related:
Donald Trump has many supporters who may feel this is a way to keep him from running for office in 2024 and further inflame their passions for violence that were previously unleashed on January 6th, 2021. Even though he is currently out of office he continues holding political influence among Republicans especially in the lower house of US congress which could have consequences for government functioning over the next 2 years until we hold another election. As we've seen in previous weeks the US government has structural relationships with the world banking system, the war in Ukraine, etc. and a total US government failure would have ramifications globally.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/11unith/trump_says_he_expects_to_be_arrested_tuesday_cnn/jcovatn/
Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday | CNN Politics
Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday | CNN Politics
hmmm we routinely use rats as an equivalent for drug testing, reinforcement studies etc. The phrase "lab rat"- there must be SOME equivalency. Some of the implication of the rats' behavior is around population based evo-psychological behaviors that are provoked in response to overpopulation. basically, the individual can sense that there are too many individuals in a space: in response, it stops engaging in pro-social or sexually-multiplying behaviors like pursuing females and protecting offspring. By decreasing behaviors which further their lineage, they are altruistically succumbing to an evolutionary impulse which is actually beneficial to the overall population long term: ie, reducing the population at hand. Reducing the particular population's numbers is in fact making for longevity and is evolutionarily advantageous to the population as a whole- libido reduction, non-pursual of females, dismissal of offspring, cannibalism etc. It might seem counter intuitive to evolution's imperative to "multiply and be fruitful" until you realize that overpopulation leads to scarcity and starvation and there's no evolutionary benefit to that overpopulation anyway once theyve pushed past ideal population numbers. This all indicates that species have an inborn sensitivity to population changes and specifically to environmental/localized overpopulation which is disincentivized against.
Just another example of how nature balances itself.
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
HAHAHAHAHA
(I'll believe it when I see it)
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
https://t.me/c/1973609633/112385
I'm still waiting for my copy of How to Blow Up a Pipeline
I'm still waiting for my copy of How to Blow Up a Pipeline
>allergy meds twice a day
Benadryl has been tentatively linked to neurological disorders
I had to learn this lesson the hard way through car insurance. I hadn't had an accident in years, and in that same amount of time I'd been paying them for "insurance" I'd put in ~$7000. I got in a car wreck, my car was severely damaged, but could've been repaired, probably for about $5k or so. They totaled the car, and cut me a check for $500.
If I had put all that money in the bank and it just sat there, collecting no interest, I'd still have the car. Instead, I've had no car, and the five hundred bucks is long gone.
The whole thing is designed to take your money, take your stuff, take everything and leave you destitute, and then blame you for being in a tent on the sidewalk, and call you "blight". *And that was just car insurance*! Imagine what they took from someone who had health insurance.
Sounds like a very useful hobby to have, especially where we’re heading. Hang in there man, you sound like a great dude and you deserve some good fortune. I hope things improve for you. 👍
Your way of life is not worth defending.
Your way of life is not worth defending.
Give me a break. When will you poors get with the program? It's all controlled losers. The whole point of it all is for you poors to stay poor. It's always been this way since the concept of trade first originated. Survival of the fittest. Might makes right. You poors will stay poor simply because you're all cowards. Pathetic.
Give me a break. When will you poors get with the program? It's all controlled losers. The whole point of it all is for you poors to stay poor. It's always been this way since the concept of trade first originated. Survival of the fittest. Might makes right. You poors will stay poor simply because you're all cowards. Pathetic.
You collapse losers are hilarious. You spend all your time dooming and glooming instead of looking within and focusing on your own lives. It's both pathetic and silly.
Another atmospheric river is set to hit California tonight as communities are still dealing with extreme flooding. As well, continued flooding in California will have an impact on the U.S. supply of Vegetables, fruit, and nuts in the near future.
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Sorry? How did the west ruin the region? They arrived to mud huts, caste systems and slaves and they left it with electricity, running water and billions of dollars to build infrastructure. They just wasted it.
Sorry? How did the west ruin the region? They arrived to mud huts, caste systems and slaves and they left it with electricity, running water and billions of dollars to build infrastructure. They just wasted it.
It’s okay to take a break from the play by play
Accelerationism is dumb and makes you a bad person
Accelerationism is dumb and makes you a bad person
BBC aren't cowards, they're just propagandists who love everything status-quo.
Sunak (~~that fucking bastarding cunting wankrag with a pair of teeth too big for his slackjawed bougie motherfu)~~ is depicted as superman for spurring COVID infections/deaths but Corbyn is depicted with a Russian backdrop wearing a Ushanka.
What's that? Your major source for a hit-piece against transpeople is a sexual predator with genocidal tendencies? WHOOPSIE, WE'RE IMPARTIAL THOUGH GUYS!
I hope this 'culture' gets skullfucked into a mass grave, buncha spineless nonces trotting out the 2 coloured folks they got on whatsapp to say the Nazi shit out loud. Get the fuck outta here, take that selacious crumb looking bitch and put her on the first flight back to Rwanda while I'm at it.
tl;dr The British Isles are having a few issues due to this whole 'oligarchy' thing.
BBC aren't cowards, they're just propagandists who love everything status-quo.
Sunak (~~that fucking bastarding cunting wankrag with a pair of teeth too big for his slackjawed bougie motherfu)~~ is depicted as superman for spurring COVID infections/deaths but Corbyn is depicted with a Russian backdrop wearing a Ushanka.
What's that? Your major source for a hit-piece against transpeople is a sexual predator with genocidal tendencies? WHOOPSIE, WE'RE IMPARTIAL THOUGH GUYS!
I hope this 'culture' gets skullfucked into a mass grave, buncha spineless nonces trotting out the 2 coloured folks they got on whatsapp to say the Nazi shit out loud. Get the fuck outta here, take that selacious crumb looking bitch and put her on the first flight back to Rwanda while I'm at it.
tl;dr The British Isles are having a few issues due to this whole 'oligarchy' thing.
Manufactured consent as I understand it is essentially the process of media entities self-censoring due to governmental and/or market pressures.
You can't be offensive or explicit in your reporting/content, because then advertisers won't want to use your platform.
You can't be overtly critical of the government because you rely on the government for your reporting. You need to be seen as friendly lest they take your access to political figures away. Trump revoking press passes is a good example of this, although a bit too overt for many peoples liking.
There are also any number of stories which are obfuscated or outright ignored because they happen to a group of people whose privation is not considered 'unjust' by society at large due to their place on the social hierarchy. A gang shooting? Bunch of poor plebs, who gives a fuck but Mitch McConnell took an itty bitty fall? Shock, thoughts and prayers!
Just a tl;dr for people who don't want to read Chomsky (although you should) and as a litmus test to see if I'm mischaracterizing MC.
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I’m so upset and worried about the state of the world, and I want to helpI’m not a pessimist, but every day it gets harder and harder to believe there is still hope for the future of humanity. Negative thoughts are nothing new to me, as I’ve spent just about every waking moment over the span of well over 10 years on the Internet, a place that exposes and constantly updates on the best and the worst of humanity at all times. So, at this point, I’ve become pretty desensitized to even the worst of the worst, which just makes times where I’m genuinely worried even scarier. All I’m saying is that I’m not some edgy/depressed teen who just found out that death is a thing -- This is some serious sh*t that concerns basically all of humanity.
Where do I even begin? I think I know. Let’s start with the fact that most people who know the world has problems and want to solve them don’t actually understand how to solve them. So many people try to clean up the effect rather than preventing the cause.
Example-
Cause: Rough childhood, surrounded by negative people and things, never given a reason to feel happy.
Effect: Becomes a murderer.
Widely accepted solution: Clean up the effect. Throw murderer in prison.
Effect of solution: Murdered people are still dead. Friends/family of murdered people are still depressed. People continue to become murderers.
Okay, I understand that it’s a lot harder to identify and prevent a cause than to identify and clean up an effect. I understand that cleaning up an effect is still better than nothing. But we spend so much time on this sh*t that nobody is actually focusing on what’s MORE IMPORTANT: preventing the cause!
How can we reduce the number of murderers? Trace back the roots of the problem!
It seems the person’s parents were rough on them, maybe we should help parents parent better by giving out helpful tips and advice, maybe even mandate a parent training course to initiate new parents and help them learn what the best ways to parent are before they take on such a stressful endeavor?
It seems the person was bullied at school, maybe we should boost morale in schools so that students aren’t so negative? Make classes more fun and engaging? Promote healthy teamwork? Same things apply for a negative work environment.
Do you see what I’m saying? It’s genuinely insane how much further ahead we would be as a society if we simply used this mindset. It would quite literally solve nearly all first world problems, right off the bat.
Another mindset we need to adopt is to not fight fire with fire. Seriously? Why do I have to say this? This phrase is quite literally one of the most well known and most repeated phrases in history, yet people still fight fire with fire. People just aren’t putting enough thought into what it actually means. If someone’s had a bad day and is cussing you out, what do you do? Cuss at them back? NO! Do you clean a sh*t stain with more sh*t? Or do you clean it with a stain remover? You don’t respond to something negative with more negativity -- what do you think’s gonna happen? You respond with positivity, to try and cancel out the negative. It’s not an absolutely flawless solution every time, but it’s sure as hell more effective than fighting fire with fire.
In addition, the world, as I see it, is a cause-and-effect chain reaction, so EVERYTHING that anyone does has a REASON. That doesn’t mean committing crimes isn’t bad, I’m not condoning that, don’t get my message twisted. What I’m saying is that every person is a product of their environment, so anything they do is not really THEIR fault. We can hate the crime, but still pity the criminal. Makes sense?
And yes, I do also believe that that applies to good people as well. I can’t express in words how lucky I feel for being born and raised in the perfect environment to be the way I am. The fact that I’m a positive person rather than an asshole or a criminal or terrorist or whatever is my luck, and I’m grateful for that. Like a seed that fell from a tree and got randomly blown by the wind into the perfect location to grow.
This also supports why we should prevent the cause of negative things rather than clean up bad things that have already happened. Not everyone is lucky enough to be born in the right circumstances to be a good person. Everyone has a tipping point, and many people in this world have gotten unlucky and gotten pushed past their tipping point by having too many bad experiences at once, too many and they can’t take it. So it’s our duty to make sure nobody gets pushed past their tipping point.
One last thing that I can’t stress enough: A person’s feelings ARE their reality. If someone gets mad, sad, or upset in any way over something that you don’t get upset over, they are not “overreacting”. It is quite f**cking literally a scientific FACT that chemicals being released in our brains is what makes us feel a certain way. So if someone acts as if the world is gonna end over something you think is small, they are not being a “drama queen”. It is their reality that the world is gonna end. No, that doesn’t mean that their feelings dictate the truth. All it means is that the way they’re feeling is no different than if the world was genuinely going to end. So have some sympathy. It goes the same way with people who laugh at things most might find dark, disturbing, or serious. If they laugh, that’s not their damn fault. It’s a different story if they laugh and then proceed to act as if it’s genuinely nothing serious. Like, I might laugh at a well-done dark joke about some massacre, but I won’t pretend that the actual loss of lives itself was funny, or say that people who don’t find it funny are “sensitive”. It’s also worth pointing out, though, that some people might fake their emotions if they’re trying to manipulate you, but this paragraph wasn’t about that. This paragraph is solely describing people’s actual feelings and emotions.
These four philosophies alone, if widely accepted, could genuinely change the f***ing world. Do you know those memes where the text says something like “Society if ___” or “The world if ___” and it shows an image of a futuristic utopia? This is quite literally that, except not a joke.
I swear that society is gonna collapse because damn near everyone seems to be in a 24/7 state of anger and/or sadness and nobody wants to think critically or listen to the people who do think critically. Everyone takes their anger out on each other, inevitably making other people angry which causes them to take their anger out on others. It’s an endless, repetitive, degenerative cycle, and I’m tired of it. I try so hard just to make peace among my friends, but they hardly ever listen to me even when I tell them the things that made me realize why I should treat others with kindness and respect even if I don’t get kindness and respect back. Change does happen, but so, so slowly. How the hell can I expect the whole world to get better if I, a person who puts literally 100% of their effort into making people get along, can’t even manage to improve a group of 10 people?
Why are so many people so close-minded? Isn’t the goal to achieve happiness? If it is, then why the hell are so many people seemingly seeking the opposite? It drives me absolutely nuts!
Okay, well, I do understand why people are this way, to an extent. I understand that humans naturally have positive traits that can be negative to others, like pride, selfishness, greed, and so on, but it’s just so damn annoying. I’ve managed to channel those inner feelings, so why can’t everyone else? Just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s not worth it. Just because you want to “live life simply” doesn’t mean anything. Look. Life isn’t simple. It never will be. Life is complicated as f**k and that is totally beyond our control. If it were up to me, I’d make life simple, so we wouldn’t have to worry about this shit so much, but it’s not. So just like me, everyone else just has to deal with it.
If we don’t come to terms with it and don’t deal with it, though, we’re doomed. And that’s that.
If you agree with this post, please share it to as many places and with as many people as you can, so it doesn’t get looked past and ignored just like every other call for help like this. I wouldn’t be writing this if I didn’t actually want to see a change. I do want to see a change. But change isn’t just going to miraculously happen by itself, we need to work together to make that change. So please help in any way you can.
And if you don’t agree with this post, please leave a comment below telling me why, and I’ll try to explain anything that needs clearing up.
Thanks for bearing with me. And please excuse my profanity. Probably also worth mentioning I live in the U.S.
I’m so upset and worried about the state of the world, and I want to helpI’m not a pessimist, but every day it gets harder and harder to believe there is still hope for the future of humanity. Negative thoughts are nothing new to me, as I’ve spent just about every waking moment over the span of well over 10 years on the Internet, a place that exposes and constantly updates on the best and the worst of humanity at all times. So, at this point, I’ve become pretty desensitized to even the worst of the worst, which just makes times where I’m genuinely worried even scarier. All I’m saying is that I’m not some edgy/depressed teen who just found out that death is a thing -- This is some serious sh*t that concerns basically all of humanity.
Where do I even begin? I think I know. Let’s start with the fact that most people who know the world has problems and want to solve them don’t actually understand how to solve them. So many people try to clean up the effect rather than preventing the cause.
Example-
Cause: Rough childhood, surrounded by negative people and things, never given a reason to feel happy.
Effect: Becomes a murderer.
Widely accepted solution: Clean up the effect. Throw murderer in prison.
Effect of solution: Murdered people are still dead. Friends/family of murdered people are still depressed. People continue to become murderers.
Okay, I understand that it’s a lot harder to identify and prevent a cause than to identify and clean up an effect. I understand that cleaning up an effect is still better than nothing. But we spend so much time on this sh*t that nobody is actually focusing on what’s MORE IMPORTANT: preventing the cause!
How can we reduce the number of murderers? Trace back the roots of the problem!
It seems the person’s parents were rough on them, maybe we should help parents parent better by giving out helpful tips and advice, maybe even mandate a parent training course to initiate new parents and help them learn what the best ways to parent are before they take on such a stressful endeavor?
It seems the person was bullied at school, maybe we should boost morale in schools so that students aren’t so negative? Make classes more fun and engaging? Promote healthy teamwork? Same things apply for a negative work environment.
Do you see what I’m saying? It’s genuinely insane how much further ahead we would be as a society if we simply used this mindset. It would quite literally solve nearly all first world problems, right off the bat.
Another mindset we need to adopt is to not fight fire with fire. Seriously? Why do I have to say this? This phrase is quite literally one of the most well known and most repeated phrases in history, yet people still fight fire with fire. People just aren’t putting enough thought into what it actually means. If someone’s had a bad day and is cussing you out, what do you do? Cuss at them back? NO! Do you clean a sh*t stain with more sh*t? Or do you clean it with a stain remover? You don’t respond to something negative with more negativity -- what do you think’s gonna happen? You respond with positivity, to try and cancel out the negative. It’s not an absolutely flawless solution every time, but it’s sure as hell more effective than fighting fire with fire.
In addition, the world, as I see it, is a cause-and-effect chain reaction, so EVERYTHING that anyone does has a REASON. That doesn’t mean committing crimes isn’t bad, I’m not condoning that, don’t get my message twisted. What I’m saying is that every person is a product of their environment, so anything they do is not really THEIR fault. We can hate the crime, but still pity the criminal. Makes sense?
And yes, I do also believe that that applies to good people as well. I can’t express in words how lucky I feel for being born and raised in the perfect environment to be the way I am. The fact that I’m a positive person rather than an asshole or a criminal or terrorist or whatever is my luck, and I’m grateful for that. Like a seed that fell from a tree and got randomly blown by the wind into the perfect location to grow.
This also supports why we should prevent the cause of negative things rather than clean up bad things that have already happened. Not everyone is lucky enough to be born in the right circumstances to be a good person. Everyone has a tipping point, and many people in this world have gotten unlucky and gotten pushed past their tipping point by having too many bad experiences at once, too many and they can’t take it. So it’s our duty to make sure nobody gets pushed past their tipping point.
One last thing that I can’t stress enough: A person’s feelings ARE their reality. If someone gets mad, sad, or upset in any way over something that you don’t get upset over, they are not “overreacting”. It is quite f**cking literally a scientific FACT that chemicals being released in our brains is what makes us feel a certain way. So if someone acts as if the world is gonna end over something you think is small, they are not being a “drama queen”. It is their reality that the world is gonna end. No, that doesn’t mean that their feelings dictate the truth. All it means is that the way they’re feeling is no different than if the world was genuinely going to end. So have some sympathy. It goes the same way with people who laugh at things most might find dark, disturbing, or serious. If they laugh, that’s not their damn fault. It’s a different story if they laugh and then proceed to act as if it’s genuinely nothing serious. Like, I might laugh at a well-done dark joke about some massacre, but I won’t pretend that the actual loss of lives itself was funny, or say that people who don’t find it funny are “sensitive”. It’s also worth pointing out, though, that some people might fake their emotions if they’re trying to manipulate you, but this paragraph wasn’t about that. This paragraph is solely describing people’s actual feelings and emotions.
These four philosophies alone, if widely accepted, could genuinely change the f***ing world. Do you know those memes where the text says something like “Society if ___” or “The world if ___” and it shows an image of a futuristic utopia? This is quite literally that, except not a joke.
I swear that society is gonna collapse because damn near everyone seems to be in a 24/7 state of anger and/or sadness and nobody wants to think critically or listen to the people who do think critically. Everyone takes their anger out on each other, inevitably making other people angry which causes them to take their anger out on others. It’s an endless, repetitive, degenerative cycle, and I’m tired of it. I try so hard just to make peace among my friends, but they hardly ever listen to me even when I tell them the things that made me realize why I should treat others with kindness and respect even if I don’t get kindness and respect back. Change does happen, but so, so slowly. How the hell can I expect the whole world to get better if I, a person who puts literally 100% of their effort into making people get along, can’t even manage to improve a group of 10 people?
Why are so many people so close-minded? Isn’t the goal to achieve happiness? If it is, then why the hell are so many people seemingly seeking the opposite? It drives me absolutely nuts!
Okay, well, I do understand why people are this way, to an extent. I understand that humans naturally have positive traits that can be negative to others, like pride, selfishness, greed, and so on, but it’s just so damn annoying. I’ve managed to channel those inner feelings, so why can’t everyone else? Just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s not worth it. Just because you want to “live life simply” doesn’t mean anything. Look. Life isn’t simple. It never will be. Life is complicated as f**k and that is totally beyond our control. If it were up to me, I’d make life simple, so we wouldn’t have to worry about this shit so much, but it’s not. So just like me, everyone else just has to deal with it.
If we don’t come to terms with it and don’t deal with it, though, we’re doomed. And that’s that.
If you agree with this post, please share it to as many places and with as many people as you can, so it doesn’t get looked past and ignored just like every other call for help like this. I wouldn’t be writing this if I didn’t actually want to see a change. I do want to see a change. But change isn’t just going to miraculously happen by itself, we need to work together to make that change. So please help in any way you can.
And if you don’t agree with this post, please leave a comment below telling me why, and I’ll try to explain anything that needs clearing up.
Thanks for bearing with me. And please excuse my profanity. Probably also worth mentioning I live in the U.S.
"it is not going to get better at this point"
I agree with you that nothing is going to get better but there is a difference between delusion (it's not really happening) and careful culling of news. I read everything, wars, famine, disease, financial collapse and all the other ills that are accelerating our decline into civilizational collapse.
But I don't share the horrors that are already here and the coming horrors that are inevitable with my wife. She gets the gist that we are on a downslope to collapse but she doesn't need nor want to hear about kids getting shot in schools or famine and death stalking across the Horn of Africa.
Not everyone can take a constant barrage of negativity and stay sane. I personally stay away from local news. Shootings, rapes, robberies and all of the "if it bleeds, it leads" headlines. I know it happens, it is happening and I know it will continue to happen for the rest of my life, but honestly, it is too personal, too painful to read about every day.
Stalin said that “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.” and everyone has different levels of empathy, different levels of ability to cope. I can deal with death of thousands in an earthquake, flood or some other disaster, some people can't. I can't deal with the rape and murder of a neighborhood child, some people can.
There is a difference between "acknowledging reality" and curating your news to allow you some small joy in the world.
Personally I would rather be dancing in joy and delight as the machine kills me, it sounds rather more fun than a grim and melancholic death.
Do you always simp like this for predatory elites?
Do you always simp like this for predatory elites?
Has the flu or any of the viruses we deal with all the time won? This kind of shit is prime doom porn for some of you.
Has the flu or any of the viruses we deal with all the time won? This kind of shit is prime doom porn for some of you.
I'm preparing myself to weather the storm. My personal actions or inaction will mean nothing when the whole tottering system is caving in on me, and it's already happening as people like you try desperately to prop it up for the short term comfort of the status quo.
Frankly you are utterly ignorant.
Frankly you are utterly ignorant.
No this is an old picture. I remember seeing it over a year ago and it was in Europe.
Edit. I stand corrected. This picture looks like a picture of a bank in Europe that was having problems about a year ago. I didn't even see the American flag.
No this is an old picture. I remember seeing it over a year ago and it was in Europe.
Edit. I stand corrected. This picture looks like a picture of a bank in Europe that was having problems about a year ago. I didn't even see the American flag.
they are most fucked from being apathetic cowards.
if you don't organize mass rebellion and **** a few elites to get them scared, the psychopaths will take you off the cliff.
we have dinosaur neoliberal elites completely divorced from normal existence and insulated from reality .
you have to take that reality to them and hand it to them in their homes and places of work. make their lives impossible. this will involve resistance against the police state protecting them from consequences.
there is PFAS in every mother's breast milk someone profits from it and pays politicians to prevent people stopping it. banks finance these things too. everywhere there are people responsible but not accountable. if you want a future you have to organize and stop them.
the question is why can't you organize? at some point it is because trivial things like for example mods in this sub will ban talk of resistance and call it promoting violence, admins will stomp it out, at every level there are cowards licking the boots and perpetuating destruction just to hold on to some little tiny shred in a doomed situation,rather than putting it all into hopping that doomed path.
There are millions of people that want to do something but you have to actually start trying and do it without fear of the repercussions that will be put in your way. don't get converted into controlled opposition along the way.
That’s silly, we won. Why does this come off as though this is still going on?
That’s silly, we won. Why does this come off as though this is still going on?
The discussion is around no major wanting to assume their toxic af liabilities. Nobody wants to do what JPM did in 2008 absorbing Bear, it worked out horribly for them. At least you admitted to being uninformed so it’s good you can recognize that.
The companies with cash that isn't insured will get bridge loans to cover the difference, and svb will likely be sold to a larger bank (one that is actually systematically important) for pennies on the dollar, and those company assets will be honored. Regardless, even if that doesn't happen, the economy isn't going to collapse if Roku can't make payroll for a week. The only way for this to be a larger deal, is if whatever fundamentals that caused svb to fail are also present in systematically important financial institutions. And judging from what I've seen about the size of deposits covered by federal deposit insurance, svb was an outlier.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Around 90% of SVB’s deposits were uninsured and most of its revenue comes from supporting other businesses. The ripple effects will be massive. It’s rich people losing money after all.
Enjoy your day, bro.
People got fine printed and found out that only up to $250,000 is federally insured. I’ve been telling new money this for years and they look at me like I’m a fucking idiot. Well, sorry that one of my boring ass autism pass times is reading user agreements!
Now people who had millions in that bank can only take out up to 250k. I’m curious what will happen since the bank that went under funds most of the tech industry. I kinda feel like it’s a hostile take over since I’ve had a sneaking suspicion that programming jobs and most tech jobs would be a minimum wage job and with the advancement of AI and the fact that an average dude can tell the interface what they want and the AI makes it happen, you don’t need some dude to translate your lose understanding of the concept into code, a machine can just do it for you.
the funniest part of this is that what the fed wanted to do over the past year was crush worker salaries and increasing labor power. because obviously, the only reason inflation could possibly happen is because there's too much money in the hands of poor people. except the inflation over the past three years has been supply side - costs go up because workers died to covid, lockdowns, and the largest generation of all time is retiring.
so unemployment? it's still at record lows despite the fed's best efforts. what did the fed actually accomplish? they funneled massive amounts of money into the deposits of banks then devalued the bonds the banks bought using those deposits by raising interest rates. this could have been avoided if the banks kept adequate reserves but hahahahaha congress removed all limits on that in 2020.
sorry, I shouldn't laugh. eventually us workers will get fucked too. but for a brief moment in time, the bankers have hoisted themselves with their own petards and my schadenfreude is overwhelming.
Your anger seems to be clouding your judgement.
I do not want collapse at all.
If you haven’t noticed, the USD is on its way to losing reserve currency status.
BRICS is becoming more and more influential.
Americans are waking up and do not feel like fighting bankers wars anymore.
You dont have to agree with me. Youre entitled to your own opinions.
CBDCs will be offered as the solution. If you think thats ok then I have news for you.
It was unsustainable from the beginning
College degrees/Jobs for DystopiaHello everyone, I am wanting some thoughts on college degrees or jobs that would be useful during a time when the world is on a continual downward slope of dystopia? What would make someone more profitable or marketable during a time when the world is struggling?
The obvious jobs are the ones that are in the medical field, but what about some other types?
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Idealogical collapse. Banned from r/landlord for participating in r/latestagecapitalismHere I am trying to be a better person. I agree with most of the topics in subs like r/antiwork and r/latestagecapitaism. I was notified that I was automatically banned from r/landlord for doing nothing at all. I am a landlord, I one one place, and I’m a good person, I sympathize with both sides.
Problem is, why is there so much of a class divide today? Automatically banned huh. Looks like this is where we are at in this stage of collapse either with them or against them, there is no in-between.
So why is it an actual landlord cannot agree with the sentiment that we are all screwed and we are trying to do something about it? I’m trying to make the world better but looks like I’m not on the right side anymore.
Guilty before being proved innocent. This style of auto bans reminds me of chinas societal credit system. We’re getting there. Wait until Reddit goes public. Expect much more moderation about topics that don’t align with the billionaires plans. Everyone will be a criminal without doing anything wrong. This is becoming like minority report.
Thanks for listening to my rant.
Idealogical collapse. Banned from r/landlord for participating in r/latestagecapitalismHere I am trying to be a better person. I agree with most of the topics in subs like r/antiwork and r/latestagecapitaism. I was notified that I was automatically banned from r/landlord for doing nothing at all. I am a landlord, I one one place, and I’m a good person, I sympathize with both sides.
Problem is, why is there so much of a class divide today? Automatically banned huh. Looks like this is where we are at in this stage of collapse either with them or against them, there is no in-between.
So why is it an actual landlord cannot agree with the sentiment that we are all screwed and we are trying to do something about it? I’m trying to make the world better but looks like I’m not on the right side anymore.
Guilty before being proved innocent. This style of auto bans reminds me of chinas societal credit system. We’re getting there. Wait until Reddit goes public. Expect much more moderation about topics that don’t align with the billionaires plans. Everyone will be a criminal without doing anything wrong. This is becoming like minority report.
Thanks for listening to my rant.
Socialism is just incompetency. Nothing good has come from socialism. It's a regressive ideology that imprisons people in their own country. North Koreans get killed for not getting the right haircut, not praying to Kim jong un and can't even choose to live and work where they want. Their country is so backwards that they still use 1940s technology for factories and millions are in prison in North Korea. Literally no freedom, backwards rule, archaic technology and a government that does not remotely care about its own citizens.
"Pack your shit folks, we're going away." -George Carlin
The most concise and accurate answer to your question is "yer fucked, mate!"
However, it was a serious question and deserves a serious answer. First, you are asking a doomer group, and this is sort of an echo chamber of "everything sucks and is only going to get worse", so it cannot be said we are completely objective on the subject.
However, I think that you should expect climate change to have increasingly visible effects over your lifetime, and scarcity of resources will drive prices of vital commodities up. In the first world you may be insulated from the worst of it, but things may still get pretty harsh.
Hardly anyone is left who remembers the last time vital commodities were rationed in the United States (as they were in World War 2), but that time may come again in your lifetime.
Developing some degree of self-sufficiency skills is probably a wise choice. Networking and collecting people who fill in the gaps in your own proficiencies, and who you know as "people" and not just "service providers" is also a good thing.
And maybe keep a backup plan or exit strategy in mind if the place where you currently live has a chance of being underwater, without water, on fire or is otherwise part of California or the southwest.
Every time I read “faster than expected” I imagine everyone in the room, including the furniture, freaking out like it’s Peewee Herman’s word of the day.
Adds a little dash of fun to watching the world crumble
The fact that the game can be genuinely frustrating really highlights the point the game makes.
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What is your opinions on covid and vaccines?While most media gives the impression that there are only two trains of thought on covid and vaccines, there are actually a great many combinations of what just happened in the last three years. The covid lockdowns were probably the biggest contributor to this sub’s popularity as the idea of “collapse” became mainstream for the first time in modern history, and there are multiple collapse scenarios you can think of depending on what you believe. This poll is made out of curiosity for what everyone thinks. There’s WAY more details than listed, but it’s a casual poll for casual Friday.
What is your opinions on covid and vaccines?While most media gives the impression that there are only two trains of thought on covid and vaccines, there are actually a great many combinations of what just happened in the last three years. The covid lockdowns were probably the biggest contributor to this sub’s popularity as the idea of “collapse” became mainstream for the first time in modern history, and there are multiple collapse scenarios you can think of depending on what you believe. This poll is made out of curiosity for what everyone thinks. There’s WAY more details than listed, but it’s a casual poll for casual Friday.
Please take a look outside of your sardine can cities and realize that you are isolated mentally and physically.
Please take a look outside of your sardine can cities and realize that you are isolated mentally and physically.
How Long Does a Country Last? | "America [...] will be soon approaching its 250th year. What makes this interesting is that the average length of most empires is 250 years"
I don’t deny that capitalism has flaws and it’s inevitable to fail. It’s just much worse under socialism since power is centralized from the start. Most if not all the problems and flaws of capitalism are magnified in socialism. Your argument is weak because you’re ignoring that socialism is also prone to corruption.
Edit: nice. you blocked me so I can respond to your useless one liner that doesn’t answer any of my points. If you didn’t realize that socialism requires growth, you’re the fucking moron who needs to read a book.
I don’t deny that capitalism has flaws and it’s inevitable to fail. It’s just much worse under socialism since power is centralized from the start. Most if not all the problems and flaws of capitalism are magnified in socialism. Your argument is weak because you’re ignoring that socialism is also prone to corruption.
Edit: nice. you blocked me so I can respond to your useless one liner that doesn’t answer any of my points. If you didn’t realize that socialism requires growth, you’re the fucking moron who needs to read a book.
Eh they (antichrist isn’t a person but a people) are already laying the groundwork for piously claiming it was (either their own fault for not genociding [or/while..]) the evil satanic lgbtq+’s/evil soddom democrats!! causing gods wrath, the biblical armageddon.
School is wage slavery indoctrination, fashioned by coal mining elites who believed in behaviorism, early indoctrination programming towards a life of servitude, as the dawning industries of coal and steel needed factory workers. Most were self sufficient farmers and loathed working in factories, so these corporate elites and politicians devised a compulsory education program for the population, to imbue into them from an early age the normalisation of the feeling of relinquishing the majority of your time and attention over to external authorities. Teachers are professional child torturers/soul crushers.
Education was lost the moment it was born as a concept. Real learning is about exposure, not rote memorization to pass tests and then forget it all. Exposure to a wide variety of life, in order to discover your passion. Once this link is made, a person learns at an incredible pace, all of their own volition.
Humans have a natural impulse to learn about life, it does not need to be forced on them.
School is a profoundly evil institution. It neary induced me to suicide and robbed me of my childhood. Im 33 and I still have nightmares about having to be bored to death in class, staring at the clock for eight hours straight. Children on this planet suffer school as a kind of dark right of passage into a dark world. Fuck school. Fuck it to death. It has no place in a more beautiful, peaceful world. Childhood should be playhood, not tests and grades.
You don't know what north Korea, Yemen socialist republic, Cuba, Bolivia, ussr, east Germany, Albania, Yugoslavia, Cambodia and socialist Ethiopia are
Sorry but "Seelk professional hel" means "fuck off and talk to pay someone to give a fuck about you" or put more simply "die"
> Our environment is so complex, so many variables.
And yet here you people are claiming to that global warming is to blame for everything.... /s but I can hear it now.
Maybe it’s a little morbid but, can we really even do anything to reverse it at this point? We are powerless against the billionaires who are more than happy to destroy this planet for an extra yacht.
La Niña conditions have officially ended and we are now under ENSO-neutral conditions.
Read a book.
Read a book.
Yes, that is deeply upsetting. But b/c you are a parent you have no choice but to be hopeful and with that hope can and does come change. I know that sounds corny, but look at it from the flip, I have the luxury of feeling hopeless, it's simple but static... so you see how that is a heroic/brave choice a parent must make. Be hopeful.
A collapse map - Week 10Hi fellow collapsniks,
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Here is this week's iteration of my collapse map, week 10.
As a reminder, I'm making this map every week, it is color coding countries regarding their collapse status. It ranges from green (the country is functioning & far from a collapse) to black (the country has totally collapsed). Details of the color ranges at the bottom of the post. The collapse status is *different from the standards of living*, wealth, happiness, or political regime (even if it is related).
\- That map is *not* a forecast nor its intent is to forecast collapse. It is a glimpse on the immediate, current state of things.
\- This is also not meant to be "the ultimate truth" about collapse for every country. It's only my personal point of view on the collapse situations in the world. In the end, you may agree or disagree with the colors and I'm always happy to discuss and debate, still the point is not to get to an unanimous agreement, but more to trigger the discussion.
\- Please note that having a far right or even **dictatorial government** has nothing to do with collapse *directly*. It may even be the opposite: authoritarian measures, on the short term, are ensuring the stability of a society, thus preventing immediate collapse. To be clear: I'm not advocating for those measures or this type of government. But still, it is a temporary shield against collapse.
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**Updates since** [last week](https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/11gv6w2/a_collapse_map_week_9/)**:**
\- **Vanuatu** turns yellow instead of green: it suffered from [2 successive hurricanes](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/04/state-of-emergency-declared-in-vanuatu-after-second-cyclone-in-a-week) \+ 1 earthquake
\- **China** is turning green instead of yellow. I got them yellow end of last year when they released the covid measures; it led to a huge number of infections + obvious disruptions in the logistic chains. That also triggered massive (unprecedented in recent China history) protests against the government. But it's been a few weeks that nothing is happening anymore (at least no news about protests or strikes is passing through the great firewall).
\- **France**: [massive strikes & protests](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64309155) started this week against a pension reform. Several ports, oil raffineries, train lines... Are not functioning anymore. So far there are no shortages of fuel or logistics issues, but it can quickly evolve. Staying green.
\- **Kosovo** is turning green again instead of yellow. Situation regarding Serbia is [calming down](https://www.rferl.org/a/wider-europe-jozwiak-kosovo-serbia-deal-yanukovych-sanctions/32303623.html) a little bit, it's not a nationwide crisis anymore.
\- **Tadjikistan & Kirgizstan** also green (and not yellow anymore) again; there were [severe clashes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Kyrgyzstan%E2%80%93Tajikistan_clashes) with deaths on both side in September, resulting in a tense political situation, but now it is quiet again.
\- **Georgia**: I wanted to put them yellow, due to the historical protests they have ongoing. Those are against one particular law, but behind the scenes it's more against the government in general, and the pro-Russian stance that it is trying to adopt (against the people's will, which wants to get close to EU). But the government [backed up and dropped the law](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64899041). Plus, in reality the protests didn't lead to any significant unrests, nor any crisis (despite a political crisis). So it's staying green for now.
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As always, comments, critics & feedbacks are more than welcome!
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**Reminder of the colors meaning:**
>!\- Green is a functioning country. That does !<*not* >!mean the country is a good country to live in. North Korea is green, in the sense that it is functioning and it does not look like it will collapse anytime soon. Still, I know, it's one of the worst dictatorships in the world, with concentration camps, nuclear threats on their neighbors, and population being more or less enslaved, malnourished and brainwashed. But unfortunately the regime there is pretty strong and stable since a while, so it is green under a collapse perspective. Same kind of reasoning applies for oil-blessed Middle East countries: Human, women and LGBT rights are not a thing there, still those countries are (ultra) rich and functioning correctly, as of today. Green examples: Germany, France, Qatar, Israel, Japan.!<
>!\- Yellow means the country is in a serious crisis. There are large-scale troubles ongoing that are altering the normalcy of the daily life for most of the population. Still not a catastrophic state for the population. Nationwide protests in the streets are not a crisis; but if it leads to civil unrest at a significant scale (like overthrowing the parliament - as in Suriname or Brazil), then it could be a crisis.!<
>!Fuel or food shortages for a significant part of the population are a crisis, !<*if* >!that is a new thing. Having a poor/malnourished population since years or decade is not a crisis per se, because it's the normal (read stable) state of things there. A unexpected and sudden full government change may or may not be a crisis, depending on how it's happening. Canada is yellow, as it suffers multiple "small" crises at the same time: housing, healthcare, inflation, homelessness, climatic... !<
>!The crisis in yellow countries is not that major that it may trigger a full collapse in the short term. Examples: US, UK, Russia, Brazil, Suriname.!<
>!\- Red means the country is close to collapse. It has major structural issues and ongoing crises and could collapse quickly, under a few months or weeks. Examples: Libya, Myanmar, Pakistan.!<
>!\- Black means the country has collapsed already and completely. Whether it's economically (Venezuela), societally/structurally (Haiti), or suffering a full scale civil war (Yemen), or all at once... Examples: Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria. So far 9 countries in the world are considered collapsed on this map.!<
I always say that the usa is gonna nuke its own borders before they let millions of illegal immigrants cross.
Bullshit is the only thing coming out of your mouth.
The fact you think Fascism is Capitalism is hilarious. Go read a book.
The fact you think Fascism is Capitalism is hilarious. Go read a book.
It’s not that you are using the word incorrectly, it’s that we Americans do.
We are a very far right country. On a European scale, our furthest “left” politician is Bernie Sanders who in reality is center right. He’s just a moral capitalist.
In our country, liberalism is not synonymous whatsoever with working-class or freedom issues. It is only synonymous with identity politics and only then for election fodder. They are highly corporate funded and corporate supporting, and highly pro-capitalist. Most of us on the (extremely small) left call them rainbow flag or moral capitalists.
- they do not support universal healthcare, and actively worked against progressives for Medicare for all. Some of their largest corporate donors are health insurance companies.
- they had a super majority under Obama and never bothered to codify abortion. The following election Hillary Clinton was the presidential candidate from their party and her running mate was an anti-abortion candidate. The leading democrat for the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi spent this past election year campaigning for antiabortion Democrats over pro-choice progressives. They used our human rights as election fodder only.
- They do not support defunding or demilitarizing our police but rather increasing their funding. It was one of the main talking points of President Biden‘s first state of the union speech. His solution to police violence against protesters while campaigning in 2020 during the protest was to advise cops to “ just shoot them in the leg” instead of head shots. State violence against indigenous and African-Americans reached its pinnacle under our first African-American President Obama and has never subsided. Black Lives Matter began during his presidency for a reason.
- they are the party of Warhawks. Please see Cuba Syria Afghanistan Ukraine Taiwan China etc
- they are often at the forefront of blocking affordable housing, as their numbers tend to skew higher bracket income. They have a dirty streak of what’s called NIMBYism here: not in my backyard.
- Our concentration camps at the borders have never been so full. This isn’t because they are more welcoming to immigrants; it’s because they have been destabilizing South America for four decades. Within four hours of being signed in as President, Biden had already started shit with Venezuela again. We just helped to destabilize Haiti again as well. Now we want Taiwan for chips so we are agitating there as well.
- renowned for only supporting racial equality and justice during election season and then immediately dropping people of color. Renowned. A staple.
- I could go on forever but their identity politics disgust me. You’re getting so much pushback from people on the left because they are not only right wing but far right wing at that. Capitalizing / profiteering / using identity politics for election wins is not liberalism in the sense that you’re using it and as Europe practices it. They would be considered far right in Europe, Somewhere on the neocon spectrum. They will not even raise our federal minimum wage past $15 an hour. A month before our recent historic toxic train derailment in Ohio they busted up union striking.
They are procapitalist in every facet. Waving a rainbow flag or Black Lives Matter sign on their front lawn doesn’t change that. They only do it to agitate against poorly educated/propagandized rural white working class. Again they could’ve codified our human rights and opted to use it for election profiteering instead. Multiple times over. Always.
We don’t have any leftist Or even classic liberalism (like you have) representation in our government whatsoever. This is how far right we are without even realizing it. We won’t even have Social Security by the time I retire. We don’t have free education. We don’t have universal healthcare. We don’t have living wages or affordable housing. We are in a corporate oligarchy, with one side of same team wearing rainbow patches is all. It means nothing for our life in reality.
The game Monopoly was originally created by Elizabeth Magie as a way to demonstrate the injustice of the 19th-century capitalist system, which allowed landlords to accumulate wealth without having to do anything to earn it. Her game, called the Landlord's Game, showed how rent gouging and monopolies hurt ordinary people and how a land value tax could be used to create a more equal society. While the single-tax movement that inspired Magie's game eventually died out, her game continued to be played and tweaked, becoming the internationally famous game Monopoly that we know today. This origin story is significant to the subreddit r/collapse because it shows how the same exploitative economic forces that existed in the 19th century still exist today, with landlords profiting off of rising housing prices while ordinary people struggle to make ends meet. This is a reminder that economic inequality and exploitation are systemic problems that must be addressed if we are to avoid a collapse of our current economic system.
Also: although the tweet has the word “restart” in it, this is not referencing “the great reset” conspiracy theory. I just wanted to make it crystal clear that I am in no way endorsing that.
Have you read my previous comment?
>They are also anti gun rights and anti-free speech
I am so glad you bring this up, because I descibe where this situation comes from, and where possible confusions arise.
I already did that in my previous comment, so that saves me some typing:
All I see here, is the word "liberal" having two distinct, **sometimes contradictory**, meanings, in America and everywhere else: "progressive left leaning", and "guaranteeing freedom from state interference". That's it. That's all.
I took the liberty to fatten the important part which refers to this instance you point out in particular.
>I am a (leftist) journalist and I find that to be fascism.
Oh boy...
Fascism is a rather specific thing. Historically it has always involved authoritarian militarized anti democratic strong men, usually gaining power through the extensive use of populism and mass media, with various levels of racism and nationalism sprinkled on top of it. That's what is usually called fascism.
Of course this has nothing to do with that... I hope you will allow me that jab, but for a journalist you seem rather light on history, as well as on the use of accurate words ("illiberal" instead of "fascism" would be a good one in this context)...
I hope your style at least brings in sufficient clicks to be worth it.
Have you read my previous comment?
>They are also anti gun rights and anti-free speech
I am so glad you bring this up, because I descibe where this situation comes from, and where possible confusions arise.
I already did that in my previous comment, so that saves me some typing:
All I see here, is the word "liberal" having two distinct, **sometimes contradictory**, meanings, in America and everywhere else: "progressive left leaning", and "guaranteeing freedom from state interference". That's it. That's all.
I took the liberty to fatten the important part which refers to this instance you point out in particular.
>I am a (leftist) journalist and I find that to be fascism.
Oh boy...
Fascism is a rather specific thing. Historically it has always involved authoritarian militarized anti democratic strong men, usually gaining power through the extensive use of populism and mass media, with various levels of racism and nationalism sprinkled on top of it. That's what is usually called fascism.
Of course this has nothing to do with that... I hope you will allow me that jab, but for a journalist you seem rather light on history, as well as on the use of accurate words ("illiberal" instead of "fascism" would be a good one in this context)...
I hope your style at least brings in sufficient clicks to be worth it.
I find it sad that multiple Americans are telling you that we use the word incorrectly here and that the people labeled liberals in this country are right wing and often far right wing in comparison to Europe but you cannot hear us. I know we don’t speak the kings English very well but anyway good luck to you. I find your high horse thing ironic for a Buddhist. Allow me this “jab” but as a Buddhist you seem to have a problem with ego.
As for my “style” I am a white nationalist monitor. Yes I think the information I report is worth clicks.
You’re welcome.
They need to be willfully blind to keep going in this crazy life we find ourselves in. We can't really fix any of the huge problems facing us anyways. It is similar to religion to me - obviously the copium/hopium is a load of bullshit but if it makes someone else feel better in their lives generally I am trying not to be a dick about it these days. You do you boo. I still lapse back into being a dick sometimes but I am trying.
"pandemic" >>> NOT a half percent %%%% casuality disease ....
Biden finally forced by the GOPers to end the farce - 10 DNC state governors likewise forced to abandon their dictatorships - 3 years of con games using the US as $$$$ pawns
"pandemic" >>> NOT a half percent %%%% casuality disease ....
Biden finally forced by the GOPers to end the farce - 10 DNC state governors likewise forced to abandon their dictatorships - 3 years of con games using the US as $$$$ pawns
So they can sell more vaccines for it. Just like how they engineered covid.
So they can sell more vaccines for it. Just like how they engineered covid.
Let me guess… you have a dirt bike?
Let me guess… you have a dirt bike?
Weak. It’s amazing you don’t see the similarities with covid in that this thing is also a product of science.
Haha so you’re holding to your natural origin theory despite everything coming out? There’s more evidence than the natural origin but you’ll hold on to that for dear life because you can’t admit to being wrong. Get your fifth booster and just be quiet from
Now on.
Haha so you’re holding to your natural origin theory despite everything coming out? There’s more evidence than the natural origin but you’ll hold on to that for dear life because you can’t admit to being wrong. Get your fifth booster and just be quiet from
Now on.
I don't mean to be pedantic in pointing out that you misspelled SAL43-k but anyone googling that will get nowhere. You are obviously referring to [SAIL43-k](https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a41281408/stratospheric-aerosol-injections-refreeze-polar-ice/).
Stopped reading when you called the non-NATO countries the four horsemen. Childish shit.
nah bro this ain’t it. you get a downvote and a fuck off from me. This couple is happy and in love and has nothing to do with this sub.
Damn, trans people can make society collapse? Badass.
Hey u/pscott05, fuck this and fuck all hatemongers!
Hey u/pscott05, fuck this and fuck all hatemongers!
Socialism is a failure
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It's not utopia if your eyes are open. Can you enjoy your life when you know that your wealth depends on the misery of others?
Yep. [Here's a More Perfect Union video on YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BeQIBde5_4I) describing the current situation with family ranches and beef prices. Very clearly shows that Reaganomics has killed the family farm and the small symbiotic towns built around farmland yet 90%+ of farmers vote Republican and rural communities are Republican strongholds. Bankrupting themselves and committing suicide at record numbers to Own the Libs.
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Inside the secret working group that helped push anti-trans laws across the country | The Erosion of Civil Rights
Inside the secret working group that helped push anti-trans laws across the country | The Erosion of Civil Rights
The latest research shows that people are much more immune to reinfection for eight months after having Covid (esp if vaccinated), so it’s logical to be less cautious following infection until the immunity fades or a new resistant variant arises. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/post-infection-coronavirus-immunity-usually-robust-after-8-months-study-shows/2021/01/07/d7d369a6-511a-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html
The latest research shows that people are much more immune to reinfection for eight months after having Covid (esp if vaccinated), so it’s logical to be less cautious following infection until the immunity fades or a new resistant variant arises. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/post-infection-coronavirus-immunity-usually-robust-after-8-months-study-shows/2021/01/07/d7d369a6-511a-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html
Not about collapse. Mods should delete this.
Unless there's data showing all these posts are from East Palestine, Ohio, then this is a nothing post.
Mods all asleep?
I'm sure being a single mother is exactly the kind of thing that will help a woman deal with the calamitous economic reality of post-war Russia, lmao.
Hogwash! Russia recovered from the carnage of WWIi... true, many women died but vastly more men did. In mammalian populations, what determines their numbers is the number of females ....one male can impregnate many females... and social norms often change to suit biological imperatives... they'll be alright... even though its government doesn't deserve to be...
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Okay, so basically, I have loads of questions about those microplastics…..They’re saying that there is nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on Earth that has no microplastics now.
Mount Everest, THE tallest mountain.
The Mariana Trench, THE deepest part of any ocean.
Air called “pristine”…
I have multiple questions.
1: Since it’s confirmed that human bodies that have been studied have microplastics in them (including before birth) is it true for just a good number of humans, or for all 8 billion and counting?
2: At which size will plastic stop killing anything?
3: Will the Earth EVER be free from the microplastics, or will it still be “Planet Plastic” when the sun consumes it in billions of years time?
4: Will the plastic be the cause of extinctions well before then?
5: Will we ever develop or evolve ANYTHING capable of cleaning it up?
Okay, so basically, I have loads of questions about those microplastics…..They’re saying that there is nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE, on Earth that has no microplastics now.
Mount Everest, THE tallest mountain.
The Mariana Trench, THE deepest part of any ocean.
Air called “pristine”…
I have multiple questions.
1: Since it’s confirmed that human bodies that have been studied have microplastics in them (including before birth) is it true for just a good number of humans, or for all 8 billion and counting?
2: At which size will plastic stop killing anything?
3: Will the Earth EVER be free from the microplastics, or will it still be “Planet Plastic” when the sun consumes it in billions of years time?
4: Will the plastic be the cause of extinctions well before then?
5: Will we ever develop or evolve ANYTHING capable of cleaning it up?
CPAC speaker sparks alarm with call for trans people to be ‘eradicated’
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The GOP is showing genocidal intent towards queer people as they are now openly calling for the eradication of trans people from the national stage. It's no longer some backwater preacher talking about rounding up queer people, but at the convention that helps set the parties platform.
For the past year(+), the GOP has been increasing the rhetoric against queer people. Trying to equate pedophila with queer identities, which has in turn increased the homophobic violence the community faces, to the point that massacres/acts of terrorism have happened. We as a nation are closer to fascism every year as the polycrisies the US faces are blamed on minority scapegoats.
This is related to collapse as it's hard to believe that the US will actually address the issues that are radicalizing people. As economic, environmental, and social woes are certain to get worse, it leaves the possibility of some pretty horrific events. Namely, mass violence against queer people, climate refugees, Jewish people, or anyone that can be blamed for the worsening conditions of society.
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My youth feels like a burdenHad I been born earlier and were therefore older now I could have built my life up while not on the precipice of collapse. As of now every action I take in the name of some better future stands in direct contradiction to the fact that I know that this current ever-deteriorating condition only has a couple more decades left in it and all my goals are rendered useless in the face of it.
I can cope with pointlessness in the deathly existential sense. But to know that my actions lead to futility so immediately, and that I’m just flushing energy down a toilet, because there’s nothing about this state that I’m working towards that’s getting preserved even into my 50s is killing me.
At least I’ll be a little more spry when we’re fighting over water with the rest of you clowns no lol?
My youth feels like a burdenHad I been born earlier and were therefore older now I could have built my life up while not on the precipice of collapse. As of now every action I take in the name of some better future stands in direct contradiction to the fact that I know that this current ever-deteriorating condition only has a couple more decades left in it and all my goals are rendered useless in the face of it.
I can cope with pointlessness in the deathly existential sense. But to know that my actions lead to futility so immediately, and that I’m just flushing energy down a toilet, because there’s nothing about this state that I’m working towards that’s getting preserved even into my 50s is killing me.
At least I’ll be a little more spry when we’re fighting over water with the rest of you clowns no lol?
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How to protect some kind of wealth in case of economic collapse?Assuming the only collapse is economic, there is no war, disease, or anything. Something like all banks going bankrupt with people savings. Companies going bankrupt too so no stock market worth anything. Plus hyper inflation.
What would be the best protection against this? Buying gold? Will anyone still be interested in gold after this? Or buying real estate? Something else?
How to protect some kind of wealth in case of economic collapse?Assuming the only collapse is economic, there is no war, disease, or anything. Something like all banks going bankrupt with people savings. Companies going bankrupt too so no stock market worth anything. Plus hyper inflation.
What would be the best protection against this? Buying gold? Will anyone still be interested in gold after this? Or buying real estate? Something else?
Are we allowed to outlink, say to youschlube? Milo Rossi AKA Minimimuteman has a great video dissecting this fool.
Are we allowed to outlink, say to youschlube? Milo Rossi AKA Minimimuteman has a great video dissecting this fool.
The chain chemical fires and burns may be leaving people with serious health effects that may effect and hurt people down the line. People may be oblivious to the dangerous effects on their health now but may develop more serious illnesses down the line.
Anyone here have those too? I’ve been getting them on my hands and now today my heart feels weird. Maybe coincidence.
The chain chemical fires and burns may be leaving people with serious health effects that may effect and hurt people down the line. People may be oblivious to the dangerous effects on their health now but may develop more serious illnesses down the line.
Anyone here have those too? I’ve been getting them on my hands and now today my heart feels weird. Maybe coincidence.
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SS: this is a debunking video for the Netflix series "Ancient Apocalypse": https://www.netflix.com/en-en/title/81211003 which is about ancient collapsed civilizations:
>Journalist Graham Hancock travels the globe hunting for evidence of mysterious, lost civilizations dating back to the last Ice Age.
This relates to collapse in a meta way since misinformation breaks collapse models, and, on a social level, shows how easy it is to be wrong *in a cool way* about things that happened in the distant past.
For more information, check the description on potholer54's video.
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Graham Hancock and the evidence for his 'Lost Civilisation'
Graham Hancock and the evidence for his 'Lost Civilisation'
What is the point of having concern or caring if you have no power to change it. What is knowledge without power if not a horrible neurosis only coped with by posting and pretending to know more than others so I can I told you so later on ? Asking for a friend
What is the point of having concern or caring if you have no power to change it. What is knowledge without power if not a horrible neurosis only coped with by posting and pretending to know more than others so I can I told you so later on ? Asking for a friend
Got it. Thanks.
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The chain chemical fires and burns may be leaving people with serious health effects that may effect and hurt people down the line. People may be oblivious to the dangerous effects on their health now but may develop more serious illnesses down the line.
Anyone here have those too? I’ve been getting them on my hands and now today my heart feels weird. Maybe coincidence.
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Plethora of posts recently about red spots that itch or don’t itch on animals and people since the chain of chemical fires started happening.
Plethora of posts recently about red spots that itch or don’t itch on animals and people since the chain of chemical fires started happening.
Because it's starting to become clear that the damage done to your brain, cardiovascular system and other organs compounds with each infection. That damage lasts while the weak temporary immunity gained from the infection wanes.
COVID causes brain damage. So your cognitive and decision making skills are chipped away after each infection. This is what we are witnessing.
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Clearly you don’t understand how serious it means to begin to consider how serious the problem is. I would start considering it - maybe if you feel like it.
Clearly you don’t understand how serious it means to begin to consider how serious the problem is. I would start considering it - maybe if you feel like it.
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I asked AI chatbot "What is the greatest threat to humanity?" and it listed AI as number 4Question: What is the greatest threat to humanity?
Answer:
As an artificial intelligence language model, I do not have personal opinions or beliefs. However, there are several potential threats to humanity that have been identified by experts in various fields. Some of these include:
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Climate change: The impact of human activity on the environment is causing climate change, which poses a serious threat to humanity in terms of rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and disruption of ecosystems.
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Nuclear war: The potential for a nuclear war or nuclear terrorism could have catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet.
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Pandemics: Infectious diseases have the potential to spread rapidly and cause significant harm to human populations, as we have seen with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Artificial intelligence: The rapid development of AI technology could have unintended consequences, such as the loss of jobs or the potential for AI systems to make decisions that could harm human society.
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Inequality: Persistent inequality in terms of income, access to education, and other factors can lead to social unrest, political instability, and even armed conflict.
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It is important to note that these threats are complex and multifaceted, and there is no single solution to addressing them. It will require concerted efforts from individuals, governments, and organizations at all levels to mitigate these risks and build a more sustainable and equitable future.
I asked AI chatbot "What is the greatest threat to humanity?" and it listed AI as number 4Question: What is the greatest threat to humanity?
Answer:
As an artificial intelligence language model, I do not have personal opinions or beliefs. However, there are several potential threats to humanity that have been identified by experts in various fields. Some of these include:
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Climate change: The impact of human activity on the environment is causing climate change, which poses a serious threat to humanity in terms of rising sea levels, extreme weather events, and disruption of ecosystems.
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Nuclear war: The potential for a nuclear war or nuclear terrorism could have catastrophic consequences for humanity and the planet.
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Pandemics: Infectious diseases have the potential to spread rapidly and cause significant harm to human populations, as we have seen with the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Artificial intelligence: The rapid development of AI technology could have unintended consequences, such as the loss of jobs or the potential for AI systems to make decisions that could harm human society.
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Inequality: Persistent inequality in terms of income, access to education, and other factors can lead to social unrest, political instability, and even armed conflict.
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It is important to note that these threats are complex and multifaceted, and there is no single solution to addressing them. It will require concerted efforts from individuals, governments, and organizations at all levels to mitigate these risks and build a more sustainable and equitable future.
Neither the idea of socialism nor capitalism existed when Liberalism began.
Son, you need to read some history instead of tankie chans.
I'm with you man. I'm tired of the NPC behavior all around. Our real life version of the Sith have taken hold and are taking the gloves off.
It’s also an insanely unfair burden to place on someone. “Hey welcome to the world, the planet is dying and half of the population believes more in angels than in climate change. It’s up to you to learn to fix it while your schools are underfunded and you face getting shot to death every day you seek an education. On top of that, climate collapse makes your life a living hell and we are going to run out of fresh water in your lifetime but hey, it felt good to cum inside your mom tho!”
How about people steal from assholes like you. All assholes should be robbed. You people in Portland have no righteousness. Sad what is happening. You are also a liar. So now your stealing is costing people jobs. Every employee at those stores should be allowed to come to your house and take all your shit. Losers
How about people steal from assholes like you. All assholes should be robbed. You people in Portland have no righteousness. Sad what is happening. You are also a liar. So now your stealing is costing people jobs. Every employee at those stores should be allowed to come to your house and take all your shit. Losers
There WAS a chance, yes. This was our only viable approach to keeping any standard of living without a massive resource footprint (if there are any available) and generally is the best and only option we have for decarbonizing.
The trouble is, we have to actually do it. And really, we should have done it in response to covid. "Oh so if we go back to driving and flying and living for ourselves, it's more plagues until everything is gone?" But that's not how we talk about it, instead there's the people that believe science and the people that never took science and believe in money because they don't understand anything else. We fought about stupid stuff rather than actually thinking about what "back to nornal" would cost us, and now... I still think it's your best bet for quality of life in a time where that is dropping like a stone, but without mass adoption, and a complete paradigm shift in what we see when we look at an exhaust pipe (i.e. extinction comes out of every exhaust pipe, it's just invisible, but that's what exhaust is), we're fully going extinct.
Why that hasn't driven every single human on earth to drop what they're doing (causing an extinction) and talk to each other about alternatives, I cant understand it either. I also can't talk to anyone about it because they've elected to pretend it isn't happening to "enjoy the moment", which to me is even crazier. The moment? This moment... or this one? Because they keep getting worse the more "normal" we try for.
How do you learn that your life was spent engineering and extinction that didn't have to happen, and then continue doing the same thing like it's ok!?
If poaching isn't ok, causing a mass extinction is REALLY NOT OK! and poachers only kill things when they take their guns out. We're contributing to our/mass extinction whenever we turn the lights on!
The only thing humanity ever needed to do was not this. We've now proven it, and its consequences, but rather than feeling bad and stopping, we're back to it. Our entire lives revolve around doing something that's killing everything and everyone and we're not the least bit bothered by our participation in it.
I get how things like slavery happen, now. People aren't capable of change that doesn't fit with their plan or understanding of the world. No matter the outcome, we will choose to stay on the path rather than step off the trail, even just long enough to figure out a plan for how to be basic humans again, and instead are mostly pretty convinced it's someone else's problem... literally the air we all breathe and pollute with extinction gas as a focus of every aspect of our lives, somehow, we're going to be fine without changing anything.
Where's the shame, people? What do you have to be proud of? You did what your parents said to do without considering the consequences and inherited the doomsday device they built. Rather than say "why tf did you people build THIS!? OF ALL THE THINGS TO DO WITH YOUR TIME, you robbed the future!?", we just accept that extinction is our retirement plan.
Not even going to try...
If you can find people to do this with, by all means. I've only ever lost the respect and kinship of people I loved by suggesting this was the thing to plan and prepare for. No matter how much worse things get, no one will talk about it with me. They laughed until they realized I was serious. Now that it's serious like I said and a place that no sane person would think they could raise a family, they EXTRA dont want to hear about it. I even have the place.
Humans are too dumb for a problem this big. Everyrhing I've seen and experienced indicates that we missed the window of survival some time ago but you'd still think we'd care enough about the planet that gave us everything to clean up before we go. But that would take acknowledging reality, which is apparently too much to ask of anyone.
Like living in full nazi kit and thinking "man, I make this work!"... when do we realize it's us and get grossed out enough to stop? Is it when there's nothing left or are we going to try before then?
Also on this list of things no one should have to explain and rage about:
- dont throw grenades to babies, especially after you pull the pin.
This is the absolute worst of all timelines. Work zombies; no matter what the cost or consequences, gotta keep burning gas to get to work. Ignore the fires.
A mass extinction. For gadgets and faster things we've always had. What is the point of this thing we're all so protective of!? It would be fine... if it weren't causing an extinction, but if you plant a seed and the result is that a mass extinction happens, you don't keep planting more because it's already too late!... right!? Isnt that an objectively bad seed to plant?
We could have all been living together with an enclosed ecosystem by now, sharing tips and tricks on how to get by, possibly even see the methane and CO2 concentration plateau. Instead, we have this life of chasing after someone else's dream of living like royalty without subjects. Visiting the cities of the world to no welcome. It's obscene for the sake of obscenity and WE LIKE IT.
It's horrific
Yes, you are a climate change denier. That is textbook denialism. You are blaming the current climate crisis that has been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN WELL BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT to be human- caused on the fucking sun and not on the real source such as deforestation on a massive scale, and the pumping of carbon into our atmosphere. You are literally spitting the exact same bullshit as climate change denying republicans. You are a climate change and a science denier.
You are a science denier and I will not engage with you further because you have no idea what guy are talking about and this is a waste of time.
Do you think the earth is the only planet in our system experiencing climactic change? Have you ever done your own research or do you just parrot the latest narrative? Have you ever sat back and considered scales of magnitude? Or even spent the time reading anything more than news article? Your getting oddly sensitive and offended, making a lot of rash assumptions without providing any explanation or providing any logic to your reasoning. Sad.
Do you think the earth is the only planet in our system experiencing climactic change? Have you ever done your own research or do you just parrot the latest narrative? Have you ever sat back and considered scales of magnitude? Or even spent the time reading anything more than news article? Your getting oddly sensitive and offended, making a lot of rash assumptions without providing any explanation or providing any logic to your reasoning. Sad.
Wow your fucking dense, no where’s did I deny climate change, your correct you probably can’t change and adapt to the climate with that rock of brain floating around in your head but there’s 8 billion people on this planet all with a shot of survival, to think that humanity hasn’t survived collapse before is plain blind and ignorant. I just realize that the picture being painted by the elites is just a mirage to fool us into blaming ourselves, don’t get me wrong I hate pollution and bad environmental practices as the next guy but the real cause and effect on our climate comes from space and our sun, not humans.
Wow your fucking dense, no where’s did I deny climate change, your correct you probably can’t change and adapt to the climate with that rock of brain floating around in your head but there’s 8 billion people on this planet all with a shot of survival, to think that humanity hasn’t survived collapse before is plain blind and ignorant. I just realize that the picture being painted by the elites is just a mirage to fool us into blaming ourselves, don’t get me wrong I hate pollution and bad environmental practices as the next guy but the real cause and effect on our climate comes from space and our sun, not humans.
we have seized the tiller of human history
A Nobel Prize Winning Economist Argues 4°C of Global Warming is Optimal. Is He Right?
The second you read "Nobel prize winning economist" you should move on. They got awarded the best at making up their own rules...
Location: Waterloo, ON and elsewhere.
So, we crossed the border last year after a lot of effort, and we're seriously considering going back when our lease is up. Why? A lot of reasons, but what it all boils down to is that the US and Canada, despite the protestations of so many (almost exclusively white and middle-aged) Canadians and right-wing nutjob Americans, aren't that different. At all. It's largely a matter of picking your poison in things like health care - America's dystopian for-profit system or Canada's approaching-dystopian public system that's been systematically under-invested in. Yes, there's a lot of violence in the States, but I'm increasingly becoming convinced that the only thing stopping a lot of that in Canada are gun control laws, not some imagined essential difference in the Canadian character. Same pathologies, same toxicity, same pressures, just a few years behind up here. There's Punisher decals on black trucks here, too - fewer than other places, but it's here.
The States look a little scary even just separated by a lake after you've been gone a few months, but we've got networks there, friends and family, and those networks are the greatest wealth you can have. You can stockpile all the ammunition you want and all the freeze-dried dog food, and you can imagine yourself into an alternate reality where your housing values will go up forever, but all that eventually runs out or expires.
Maybe that's the lesson - there's a lot of talk about getting somewhere safer, and yes, there's more and less safe. But there is no Shangri-La. There is no paradise you'll get to sit back and watch the world burn from.
So... what I'm seeing here:
\- Weather: not much of a winter, to be honest. 53 degrees Fahrenheit forecasted today, on February 15! Insane compared to historical records.
\- Housing: EVERY. SINGLE. FAMILY. we have met here we've gotten on with that's our age and situation in life has housing only through some sort of angle: their parents sold them a place cheap, they're perma-renters in run-down houses that are barely maintained, they can afford their mortgage only through renting out their basements, whatever. It's pretty remarkable. The complacency of the property owners, the people who own their homes, (I almost want to say "class", because I think there's the making of that) is also remarkable.
How on earth is this going to look in 10 years? There's barely any housing \*today\* for younger people, and immigration targets are pushing half a million yearly. Where are all the new people going to live? Tent cities? $400,000 one-bedroom condos?
\- Cruelty: Yesterday, we took the family to Toronto for a Disney experience thing. We've got two young girls, and the trains were cancelled for a bit because someone killed themselves by jumping on the tracks (on Valentine's Day). We learned about this while standing in line for a bus to get us to Bramalea by some white millennial asshole talking loudly on his phone right behind us and having the balls to complain about this, as if it was a massive personal inconvenience to him personally. Right behind two young girls, he loudly cracks jokes about someone killing themselves, and we as parents have to explain what happened later.
On the positive side... in Toronto, the Disney thing we paid an ungodly amount for was malfunctioning, in a sort of metaphor for industrial society, and we eventually decided to just get a refund, as it looked like the one projector (!) causing the problem wasn't going to be fixed that evening. We made do and had a nice picnic on the lakefront, and that was actually inspiring - people from all over the world in their groups, laughing, playing music, lots of people carrying flowers they'd bought, one Indian woman giving our kids wrapped Lindt chocolates "just because"... that gave me some hope.
Location: Waterloo, ON and elsewhere.
So, we crossed the border last year after a lot of effort, and we're seriously considering going back when our lease is up. Why? A lot of reasons, but what it all boils down to is that the US and Canada, despite the protestations of so many (almost exclusively white and middle-aged) Canadians and right-wing nutjob Americans, aren't that different. At all. It's largely a matter of picking your poison in things like health care - America's dystopian for-profit system or Canada's approaching-dystopian public system that's been systematically under-invested in. Yes, there's a lot of violence in the States, but I'm increasingly becoming convinced that the only thing stopping a lot of that in Canada are gun control laws, not some imagined essential difference in the Canadian character. Same pathologies, same toxicity, same pressures, just a few years behind up here. There's Punisher decals on black trucks here, too - fewer than other places, but it's here.
The States look a little scary even just separated by a lake after you've been gone a few months, but we've got networks there, friends and family, and those networks are the greatest wealth you can have. You can stockpile all the ammunition you want and all the freeze-dried dog food, and you can imagine yourself into an alternate reality where your housing values will go up forever, but all that eventually runs out or expires.
Maybe that's the lesson - there's a lot of talk about getting somewhere safer, and yes, there's more and less safe. But there is no Shangri-La. There is no paradise you'll get to sit back and watch the world burn from.
So... what I'm seeing here:
\- Weather: not much of a winter, to be honest. 53 degrees Fahrenheit forecasted today, on February 15! Insane compared to historical records.
\- Housing: EVERY. SINGLE. FAMILY. we have met here we've gotten on with that's our age and situation in life has housing only through some sort of angle: their parents sold them a place cheap, they're perma-renters in run-down houses that are barely maintained, they can afford their mortgage only through renting out their basements, whatever. It's pretty remarkable. The complacency of the property owners, the people who own their homes, (I almost want to say "class", because I think there's the making of that) is also remarkable.
How on earth is this going to look in 10 years? There's barely any housing \*today\* for younger people, and immigration targets are pushing half a million yearly. Where are all the new people going to live? Tent cities? $400,000 one-bedroom condos?
\- Cruelty: Yesterday, we took the family to Toronto for a Disney experience thing. We've got two young girls, and the trains were cancelled for a bit because someone killed themselves by jumping on the tracks (on Valentine's Day). We learned about this while standing in line for a bus to get us to Bramalea by some white millennial asshole talking loudly on his phone right behind us and having the balls to complain about this, as if it was a massive personal inconvenience to him personally. Right behind two young girls, he loudly cracks jokes about someone killing themselves, and we as parents have to explain what happened later.
On the positive side... in Toronto, the Disney thing we paid an ungodly amount for was malfunctioning, in a sort of metaphor for industrial society, and we eventually decided to just get a refund, as it looked like the one projector (!) causing the problem wasn't going to be fixed that evening. We made do and had a nice picnic on the lakefront, and that was actually inspiring - people from all over the world in their groups, laughing, playing music, lots of people carrying flowers they'd bought, one Indian woman giving our kids wrapped Lindt chocolates "just because"... that gave me some hope.
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Info on avoiding right wing nuts?I have no political affiliations whatsoever. No matter my opinions I don't nessascarily subscribe to them enough to ever support bloodshed over them.
I don't care and I truly want no part of the skirmishing that will inevitably happen in the worst of times.
That being said. This is real life. That's not how it works. I'm no idiot. I've been prepping for a bit and even browsed the worst circles on the internet.
Come a purge or the worst of times my skin color will mark my side for me. No matter if I have a political side or not.
History has shown us these groups are more dangerous than the thugs because say a purge occurs, they won't be looking for the thugs. They will be looking for innocents who they seem to be political opponents.
The odds don't look good for me. Im a villified skin color who is located in a area with very heavy non colored population. Any ideas. Thinking about trying to show usefulness in order to get in w a group.
Info on avoiding right wing nuts?I have no political affiliations whatsoever. No matter my opinions I don't nessascarily subscribe to them enough to ever support bloodshed over them.
I don't care and I truly want no part of the skirmishing that will inevitably happen in the worst of times.
That being said. This is real life. That's not how it works. I'm no idiot. I've been prepping for a bit and even browsed the worst circles on the internet.
Come a purge or the worst of times my skin color will mark my side for me. No matter if I have a political side or not.
History has shown us these groups are more dangerous than the thugs because say a purge occurs, they won't be looking for the thugs. They will be looking for innocents who they seem to be political opponents.
The odds don't look good for me. Im a villified skin color who is located in a area with very heavy non colored population. Any ideas. Thinking about trying to show usefulness in order to get in w a group.
Ontario, Canada is currently experiencing a massive winter storm with significant lightning and thunder... one more instance of our changing climate.
Should People in the eastern United States care about water conservation?In much of the discussion regarding water shortages, we are always told to conserve water, however, do people in the Eastern United States, or other regions with lots of excess water, need to be concerned with conserving water or future water shortages in these regions?
Should those of us who live in regions with excess water (oftentimes faced with flooding concerns), need to conserve water or need to prepare for water shortages?
Dude save that philosophical shit for someone else. Rolling over and just dying is some weak shit.
Dude save that philosophical shit for someone else. Rolling over and just dying is some weak shit.
Leave my fucking lake alone bitch!
Dude save that philosophical shit for someone else. Rolling over and just dying is some weak shit.
You are a crap movie
You are a crap movie
Strong hopium….But, deep down you know it’s all it is…..It seems you have no real grasp of the scale of the problem or you are living happily in denial…..Either way it makes not a jot of difference, whatever gets you through.
Fuck off, y’all aren’t draining my lakes. I will fight you for it, don’t build cities in the fucking desert
Straight to Gulag.
Straight to Gulag.
you will be both taken to forced labour camp for these comments.
The west, California in particular, has been pursuing industrial agriculture profits by degrading their own natural resources and exploiting a cheap and vulnerable labor pool for more than 80yrs. They've been dumping cheap ag products like *winter lettuce" and even tomato paste to profit off their own ecological destruction. This has hollowed out agriculture in the rest of the country. It should be against federal law to farm the way California does. It has cost everyone dearly and if you did stop, so many communities nationwide could have real livelihoods again in farming. Most people would be happy to see you stop -- most people who aren't rich agriculture businessmen in the central valley that is.
John Steinbeck literally wrote the Grapes of Wrath about how shit of a system California's economy is. That was almost a century ago now... Maybe read a book?
Looks like you have zero doubt on the former, as for the latter?
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Soon Collapse... A New Era Begins (Predictions: 2023-2025) (Part 1)**Original Title:: Visions and predictions of the Future 2023 - 2025 (Part 1)**
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Hello, my name is MΩRGAN. I will be clear and sincere: To summarize; I am not a seer or psychic, nor a time traveler, but I have some information in my possession about what is to come to the world... This is something complex and something to analyze calmly; You will see how this is fulfilled with your own eyes. This is not meant to scare or cause panic but something people need to know in order to make preparations. This information will reach the right people; the conscious people will prevail, the rest will ignore it and go on with their lives until it is too late. I've probably posted this late, but there's still time. This is a great and extensive work that you will not find anywhere else. This is my contribution in this world, share it and make this information known.
\*Note: I have tried to disseminate this information since January 13 (information that has already been completed since before the beginning of the year). I tried it a second time on January 27th. And for the third time on February 23. Now I'm trying again on March 1st (first posts; since of). My posts have been removed and have been deleted by reddit; I have learned from my last posts... This post is a modified and restructured version compared to previous versions (Reddit posts); I made the mistake of posting a lot of information (unnecessary for people) and I have also removed the "sensitive" information (for many people); information that was accused of being "exaggerated", "trash", "hate" and even "misogyny" (some fragments and more specifically a section that talks about society; about people, the world situation and their near future), the part that was the one that caused controversy. And because of removing the section about society I was able to complete the other sections and present them in more detail than previous versions posted on reddit. Even so, I will try to publish the removed section (society) together with things that I have omitted and other sections that I have not published on reddit in a second part (only on my profile)... I have disseminated this information in the Spanish-speaking media and communities (my native language) (where it was received relatively well and with interest) and now I try to do it on reddit, a platform mainly of English speakers, but it was not well received, especially in communities about crisis, preppers, collapse, end of the world, etc... I was disappointed... The people I try to warn are the same ones who attack me (almost as if they took it personally) and they want to silence this information; I thought people wanted to know the truth no matter if it was "good" or "bad". Disappointing... I think people just want to hear fanciful predictions from supposed time travelers and supposed psychics; They see the topics of crisis, collapse, news, etc... as entertainment... I am the person that perhaps many wanted to hear regarding these topics, I am the publication that many expected in this type of community; if you value this information keep it (copy the text) because it is very likely that this information will not be present for a long time here... I have removed certain things from my previous publications and have only published the main events, and I will also try not to spam with my posts. If the posts are removed or deleted, or if reddit suspends my account I will not return; This is my last attempt to spread this information on reddit.
\*Time will prove me right!
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\*This is a translation from Spanish (original text); could have some errors.
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In the Year 2023 Everything Begins (2023-2024):
\-Initially in 2023: New viruses appear and begin to spread around the world...Crisis and economic problems suddenly and rapid changes regarding the economy...Nations begin to rise up and make alarming military movements.. Government changes; changes in laws and systems... Migration and changes of residence are increasing rapidly... protests in the world begin to increase, as well as violence and crime... Climate changes and many obvious natural disasters... strange stars and asteroids heading towards earth... Unique stellar events... Extraterrestrial manifestations in the sky and also on earth; and a situation by which the world will unite...
\-From March-May/2023: Everything begins and things accelerate. Big events, obvious changes and events begin to unleash one after another... New Pandemic, Economic Crisis, War and a Technological Event that begins to paralyze and confuse the world; global impact that gives rise to a major event... Things come to light; social rebellions break out and people start to move out. And at the end of the year: alarming changes, blackouts, crisis, unemployment, many deaths and global alarm; people will feel betrayed and deceived by their own governments and by global institutions... People will be under many restrictions and surveillance (you have to be careful what you do and say)... Migrations start all over the, increasing rapidly and continuously until the next few years (Mainly migrations fleeing out of the United States and Europe).
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\-1. World Events (General) - (Omitted for more space): ... ... ...
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\-1. Political (Leaders and Government) - (Fragments from previous posts/Shortened): ... ... ... .
\-Joe Biden in presidential scandals. Biden is exposed as a fake president through a huge event and documents; illegal acts come to light. Kamala Harris begins to take relevance and prominence. Biden absent due to political problems and health problems; he abandons his term without finishing it. (Mid 2023)
\-Donald Trump returns (Restitution) and establishes the United States The Republic through trump and with trump in command. Two presidents in command (Joe biden President of the United States The Corporation. And Donald Trump President of the United States The Republic). (2023-2024)
\-Kamala Harris takes the leadership of the United States due to the absence of Joe Biden; she begins to make deals with China and changes that are a betrayal of the country; kamala makes many negative and detrimental changes to the nation. Aid to the population is cancelled. Also papers are cancelled; and demand for documents from the population (immigrants begin to be persecuted) (Sep-Dec/2023). Kamala takes control of the nation; Biden and Trump die (treason/murder). Kamala makes changes regarding weapons, metals, food and supplies; total changes in the nation and extremist acts against the population... Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton return to lead the United States together with Kamala Harris during the chaos and collapse of the nation; making changes to laws and extremist acts against the population. A woman will end up being the president of the United States. (2024-2025)
\-The President of Mexico makes deals with China and Ruisa; he then begins to make changes in the government that are are a betrayal of the country. The president cancelled aid to citizens and censuses are carried out. The military take over the schools. There will be persecution of anyone who does not identify themselves; immigrants and religions will be persecuted. Extremist acts will be carried out against the population... The president leaves without completing his term; instead a woman will take command. A woman will become the next president of Mexico. (2023-2024)
\-King Charles abdicates; Prince William becomes King, who will have a great role and authority during the global government. (End of 2024)
\-Pope Francis begins to move away from Rome with health problems that will be made public (2023). Pope Francis abdicates and disappears amid doctrinal scandals, divisions and conflicts in the Vatican; then two new popes appear fighting for the papal throne, but after a short time they flee or are assassinated (Second half of 2024).
\-The Great Leader. A Man rises up in the midst of global conflicts and crises (End of 2023 and Beginning of 2024). A man is presented who will be seen as a leader, who will produce many political, governmental and social changes; he will influence the rest of the nations of the world. The leader will begin as someone with great influence and with some authority, but at a certain point all the power and great authority in the entire world will be handed over to him... The leader will appear and speak to the nations; he will announce a plan for the good of the world and a treaty of peace between nations; message of peace and global unification; he ends up conquering the world with his words and plan, which is why he was given power. The leader will be seen as a world leader and the savior of the world. And after a global reset he will be given absolute global power.
\-Starts the reconstruction of the third temple of Jerusalem (related with a global religious unification); religious conflicts about it. The religious war arises in which Israel, Arab countries, China, Russia and the United States will be involved. (Initially in 2023; by the end of 2024 the temple will be halfway through its construction).
\-Scientific Advances Regarding Genetics. Science surprises the world with respect to genetics, assuring that they can modify human beings to improve them and to eliminate deficiencies and diseases. Man prematurely enters a new science, then everything will end in error and disaster.
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\-2. Biological (Health):
\-In Jan-May/2023: A new virus emerges worse than the previous one, which will be roaming the world; It will not be given importance and will be seen as a simple variant/strain (Attack by China against the United States, and to weaken the rest of the Nations). The Virus is difficult to detect and combat with a very rapid expansion capacity; It will start as something apparently calm and then get out of control and set off alarms. The new virus will be something very different from what is already known and will have a strange behavior; it has the ability to mutate, branching out into 2 possible transformations; At the beginning it will be thought that they are two different viruses but it will be a single one with the ability to mutate into two different versions depending on the person who carries it (The American Continent will be the main affected). The new virus spreads through air and water (people will not be able to drink or bathe); It will mainly affect children, the elderly and women; It will be related to the pets which will be taken from their owners to be cremated (even the owners themselves will get rid of their pets). And because of the situation the isolations return; People will enter the new lockdown in a relatively calm and cooperative manner (the economy is negatively affected by lockdowns).
\-In Jun-Sep/2023: Health emergency and exaggerated alarms; suddenly many begin to die (quickly and in large numbers); consequently a new stronger and stricter isolation than the previous one due to the pandemic virus; isolations very quickly and almost simultaneously throughout the world; many rules and strong restrictions. People go into hysterics; making panic purchases to the point of stealing, looting and fighting with other people to take away their purchases. Markets are depleted, and are closed... New vaccines are offered to the public and people are pressured to get vaccinated using legal papers. Many of those who are vaccinated will die, and those who survive will be infertile. The Government carries out censuses to measure losses and count people (especially pregnant women and those who have just had a baby). Tests by the Government to collect genetic material.
\-In Jul-Dec/2023: Two new viruses (pandemics) emerge, which worsen the situation and rapidly increase the number of deaths (One of these viruses mainly attacks the black race, producing attacks and rejections of these people until causing a race war). The first one is a virus that causes ulcers and sores throughout the body; people die in a matter of a few days. And the second one is a virus that causes bleeding from all the orifices of the body such as eyes, nose, ears, mouth and simple wounds; very fast and sudden death... World borders totally closed. Closed airports. Restrictions on the free movement of civilians. abandoned streets. Overburdened hospitals. People will not be paid their salary until they get vaccinated (even if they are working). Students will not be able to attend their classes until they are vaccinated.... Infected seas (fish appear dead on the coasts). Infected food and water... Worrying irregularities and effects regarding vaccines; people refuse to get vaccinated. Viruses and pandemics that will end up killing 1/3 of the global population.
\-In 2024: Multiple viruses in the world (angry people; it is discovered that it is an attack and betrayed the people). Law changes; Processes are beginning to progressively separate families as a result of the pandemic. Authorities visit houses and apartments to carry out vaccinations. There is a curfew, but people go out to protest and attack the Government... The coronavirus is once again a pandemic, which merges with the first virus that will already be widespread throughout the world. A new virus appears, something has never been seen before... The zombie virus emerges; it directly attacks the nervous system and inflames the brain, which makes them behave similar to a zombie; later they will behave aggressively and begin to attack people to eat them, behaving like a typical zombie from the movies. Animals, birds and fish will also be infected by the zombie virus, which will behave in a strange and hostile way... During the course of pandemics there will be strict and drastic forced isolation. Health system collapses; people will be left to die in the streets and in the corridors of hospitals; doctor and doctors protesting... There will be a lot of vaccine production in the world; people will be forcibly vaccinated by the military (there will even be impromptu vaccinations taking people by surprise in the streets and in their own neighborhoods), and those who do not want to be vaccinated will be persecuted... Global fertility problems. Problems with the uterus of women and regarding births. Children are separated from parents because of viruses. People are separated according to their symptoms. Immunological problems... Zombie Pandemic (2024-2025); people behave like beasts and irrationally attacking anyone in their path. Resurrections; people like zombie killing and eating people.
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\-3. Economy (Resources and Food):
\-In Jan-Jun/2023: Initially the economy is apparently good, but it will only be an illusion. Many things begin to increase their prices without decreasing and many products begin to be limited; inflation is evident. Fires, pollution and viruses that bring crop losses and death of the ecosystem. Serious problems with agriculture and livestock. Commercial transport is stopped; Problems arise that worsen the situation, therefore basic things and food begin to be scarce. Beginnings of food and water rationing. Markets progressively stop being supplied until there is no longer food or water available. Economic crisis and beginnings of world famine (Strikes and protests in this regard).
\-In Apr-Jul/2023: Sudden Impact on the Economy; the value of money changes negatively unexpectedly and sudden losses. Dollar and Euro devalued; Whoever has dollars or euros loses money. A blow to the stock market; economic instability and freezing banking system. Growth and the flow of money stops. Market in trouble and global economic stagnation. Negatively Affected Cryptocurrencies; losses... Rapid bank changes begin due to the situation; restrictions, money is frozen in banks and people will not be able to withdraw their own money. Banks being closed. Problems with jobs and businesses. Prices begin to rise rapidly (mainly food and medicine); unfair prices. Shortage of everything. Very expensive gasoline and cars begin to be abandoned. High prices on transport of all kinds. Businesses and companies make critical moves; they move to other countries; bankruptcies, closings and manipulations. Rising unemployment. People's money does not yield and they are forced to make forced expenses because of the situation; problems with the economic management of people. Disagreements, riots, robberies and looting arise because of the economic situation, and because of the people's need for food and water.
\-In May-Sep/2023: Chinese proposals arise for the world; changes that promise solution and stability; the world will be amazed; people and nations begin to participate quickly in the proposal. Something new is introduced to the market, something that changes the economy completely. A new economic system is implemented and a new cryptocurrency is introduced to the market that quickly gains popularity and growth. China's plan: The new cryptocurrency destabilizes the economies of nations; being forced to participate. Currencies, metals and cryptocurrencies are very negatively affected in their values and trade due to the new introduction.
\-In Sep-Dec/2023: The shortage explodes and is world news; shortages of food, water and supplies. Famine, thirst and poverty on the rise. Scarce food; loss of crops and food. Pests appear that destroy crops. Problems due to contamination and viruses. Scarce and poisoned water; problems regarding contamination, viruses and chemicals... Disproportionate and illogical taxes; many things become unpurchasable. Very expensive and limited food. Water prices skyrocket; extremely expensive. Controls with food. People are asked to return what they have bought... At the end of the year the controls are implemented and the new economic system is concluded; new and many restrictions; people lose the freedom to use their own money; people are limited in the quantity and frequency of their purchases; there will be records of what is bought, who buys it and to which house those purchases arrive. Changes regarding money, metals and cryptocurrencies. Cryptocurrencies crash (except the new cryptocurrency introduced). Metal prices skyrocket and start to exit the market. Food is regulated and water is restricted for the population. Bankrupt companies and corporations, and soon disappear. Serious devaluation problem (especially the Dollar and Euro).
\-In Jan-Apr/2024: Total economic control and new operating system. Basic and essential things are retained and controlled by the governments of the world. People are controlled through resources, money and health. The introduction of the new cryptocurrency is a total success; the global population and the nations of the world participating in the new cryptocurrency and the new economic system. The new systems seem to bring relative solution and stability... In the United States, people flee to the southern border to feed on the resources of Mexico; people want to flee the United States and border conflicts arise (especially ending 2024). Very poor Europe, with a lot of scarcity and crisis; people want to flee Europe (especially ending 2024).
\-In May-Aug/2024: Global bank robberies suddenly; people lose all their money from one moment to another (rich people and poor people); situation that unleashes new conflicts and a war. Global economic collapse and money disappears. People are required to hand over their food, metals, and medicines by law; the preppers will be criminalized and blamed for the situation (The government and the people persecute the preppers)... Civil war and revolutions break out all over the world. Conflicts break out in South America, the Middle East and around Europe. Imminent Global War.
\-In Sep-Dec/2024: Great Famine and Global Poverty. Shelters around the world as a result of the situation; lots of homeless people. Robberies, looting, fights and riots everywhere as a result of the situation. People kill other people for food and supplies; and many people turn to cannibalism mainly on the United States and Europe (At the end of 2024).
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\-4. Nations (International Relations/War):
\-In 2023: tensions between nations; war mobilizations that do not go unnoticed and a warlike environment in the world. Dialogue and deals between nations but they do not reach any agreement; then the dialogues turn into menaces, aggressive acts and sudden attacks that complicate things. The armies begin to mobilize in full view of all; alarmed people. Sudden impacts and acts that cause crises and imminent military battles. The invasions begin; and they begin to use biological, chemical and nuclear weapons (there will begin to be nuclear detonations in different parts of the world) (2023-2024)... The year 2023 will be the beginning of strong military mobilizations, chemical and biological attacks; armed terrorist attacks and also 9/11 type terrorist attacks mainly on the United States and Europe (One of the main targets of the terrorist attacks will be the Golden Gate Bridge).
\-In May-Dec/2023: Strong Tensions and Imminent War. Discussions and struggles between countries. Global communication problems and misunderstandings that lead to conflicts. Hasty and foolish acts by the United States that leaves it in a vulnerable situation and directed to self-defeat (US is the first to attack in a hidden way; when China and Russia react will be accused of being the first ones to attack). Nations act; They are no longer supported only with words but are beginning to support each other militarily and economically... Mobilizations of troops and soldiers worldwide. Laws are broken and international deals are also broken. Violations of maritime territory... Alarming events; sudden attacks between nations and military clashes. Conflicts over events of the past (historical). Nations start wars to recover territories... In the midst of tensions and battles, betrayals and sudden alliances take place... Venezuela in conflict with Colombia. Mexico has conflicts with the United States (Mexico makes an alliance with China and Russia; it participates in the same plan and system). Iran re-enters the world stage; in conflict and making deals with russia (sharing arms). European nations rise up against Russia. China at War with Asia (mainly Taiwan). Russia at war with Europe (mainly Ukraine). The United States interferes against China and Russia. Unforeseen nations enter the scene and join China. The Middle East begins to enter the conflict; and immigrants from the Middle East begin to arrive in Mexico for the purpose of war against the United States. China and Russia hold each other strong and stable; contracts with alliances are consolidated.
\-In Aug-Dec/2023: Temporary peace treaties emerge to stop the war and deal with the global crisis. Unifications between nations to deal with the situation. Measures following war attacks; global changes and new systems being implemented. Changes in the attitude of governments towards the population.... In the midst of the war, the United States, China and Russia begin a deal to pacify the situation. United States in severe crisis; seeks to make a peace deal with China; The United States declares that it does not want problems and the need to attend to the global situation. China accepts; feigns friendship and offers help to the United States; China offers its support and offers which are accepted (China begins to infiltrate governmentally and militarily and then attack from within and take control of the country).
\-In Jan-Sep/2024: The World in Crisis. Social problems. Famine and official thirst in the world... The World enters into a joint plan to solve the global situation. The United States dealing with serious economic problems and scarcity along with social disorder and violence. China and the UN begin to help the United States; China and UN Send Food and Supplies to Help; China and the UN send soldiers to deal with the social crisis. In the midst of apparent peace, China would be moving stealthily; setting a trap for the United States; positioning themselves and executing a plan (when the United States reacts the enemy will already be at home; US will be abandoned and cornered).
\-In May-Aug/2024: In the midst of the apparent peace, wars suddenly revive and deals are broken. Nations no longer negotiate or talk to each other; nations simply act without listening or discussing... Wars in the world. Sudden attacks, military mobilizations, battles and nuclear detonations in different parts of the world... Arab countries rise up to make war. North Korea and South Korea at war (in 2024-2025 the two Koreas will unite again). Southern states of the United States seek to secede because of the deals that the nation made with China and Russia (unfavorable) and because of changes in laws. Europe in crisis and dealing with population revolutions. South America in conflict; there will be use of weapons and troops in battle; War declared between Venezuela and Colombia. Wars in the Caribbean and South America. The UN and NATO intervene in the situation. United States dealing with crises and problems; fulfilling deals with China and Russia that forbids it from acting in the face of conflicts (the United States promised not to interfere in global conflicts, promised to collaborate in the global situation together with China and Russia). The United States begins to mobilize and move troops with dubious justifications; so, China accepts and assures that it will not intervene in its affairs.
\-In Aug-Nov/2024: Conflicts and Wars declared in the world. The United States breaks the deals it made with China and Russia (the United States decides to take action, especting that it will count on its alliances to fight together). The United States suddenly changes its plans and invades Venezuela; acts that are a violation of laws and international treaties, for which the allies break alliances with the United States (the allies initially support the United States to go to war and then abandon it in the middle of the battle, using the transgressions as an excuse regarding international law and treaties; the United States is betrayed by its own allies). Then China and Russia leave behind all the deals and agreement to start acting; they no longer want to talk or discuss; heading for total war. The Chinese troops act from within together with the UN troops... China and Ruisa prepare to attack while the United States sends all its troops to Venezuela, the Caribbean and Europe. In the middle of the war the allies abandon the United States (also the border "friends" abandon and turn against the nation); and suddenly its electrical and technological system is attacked (Electromagnetic Pulse Attack), followed by 3 nuclear impacts (New York, Los Angeles and Las Vegas). United States Falls; he is left disabled, blinded to the world, and unable to defend and attack. The World abandons and restricts the United States (later South America will support and feed North America). Soon China, Russia and allies invade and occupy the United States together with the UN (while the American armies are absent). United States invaded and occupied; foreign armies dominate the streets and take control of the country and its population.
\-In Nov-Dec/2024: The Total War begins that will end in a Global Holocaust, a war that will end in the spring of 2025. China against Asia and Russia against Europe; then the middle east rises up in the middle of the war to expand throughout the world; radical Islam resurfaces (worldwide)... The World in crisis and with severe problems. Europe looted, without resources and devastated; people want to flee Europe. The United States falls and its states are divided; people leave the nation fleeing to the borders, but the borders will be guarded by Chinese, Russian, Mexican and Canadian armies (many are killed on the way). Latin America begins to rise because of the fall of the United States and its economic control in the world... Russia wins and achieves its goal but is left very damaged and worn out. And China achieves victory against its enemies... China offers its guidance and help to the rest of the nations in the face of the situation (Unification in a system and regime for the good of the world); China takes control of the world and makes changes globally; China rules the world. Arab countries, China and Russia unite to run the world under an "Arab-Communist" regime.
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\-5. Exopolitics (Alien Revelation) - (Shortened):
\-The extraterrestrial theme becomes something very popular and evident to the population; and much dissemination about it. Alien manifestations begin to increase more frequently and clearly (the same aliens seek to show themselves to humanity), but people will not believe what they see with their own eyes. There will be ships that people will record closely and sightings of aliens among society which will be disseminated on social networks (in open places, among people and even in positions of authority / government). Even the aliens themselves will be present on the internet and social networks (but it will be censored)... The armies of the world begin to move by land, water and air attacking ships "invading territory", with the supposed intention of defending the population. Information will be disseminated about an alien invasion... In the midst of news of strong sightings and speculation of a supposed alien invasion, the ALIEN DISCLOSURE begins.
\--Starts the Extraterrestrial Revelation; a global contact and the existence of other intelligences in the stars are made public and officially known, as well as their presence on the planet; an alliance with the earth that already existed is made known... The population will be told things about aliens and a situation that will surprise the world; an alliance and deals that humanity will not believe or understand will be made known, something very different from what humanity thought or imagined would be said; Humanity will believe that they are being lied, so they react and respond in a bad way... Aliens will be announced globally and will be presented to humanity by the main leaders (then humanity begins to approach them with respect and education, trying to understand the extraterrestrial reality and the situation). \*Planet Earth is an extremely important place for many extraterrestrial species, which has been isolated for a long time, but that isolation is about to be removed; a very important planet, abundant in resources and with great strategic value for a stellar conflict in which the earth is heavily involved... ... ...
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\-6. Planetary and Climate Change 2023/2024 (Shortened):
\-The earth begins to behave strangely. Phenomena in the skies and natural phenomena on earth out of the ordinary. Climate change and natural disasters are beginning to increase around the world; in intensity and frequency. Seasons change their course and regional climates change; In hot places there will be snowfalls and in cold places there will be droughts...
\-Earthquakes around the world that will be big news; stronger and more frequent (Feb-Aug)...
\-The ring of fire is activated; multiple and strong earthquakes accompanied by huge tsunamis, but the strongest and most devastating earthquake will be in California, San Andres (Feb-May)...
\-Huge tsunamis on the world's coasts (Feb-Dec)...
\-Strong temperature changes. Sudden cold as if it were winter in the Northern Hemisphere (Apr-Sep)...
\-Intense heat mainly in Asia, Europe and South America. In certain parts it will be extremely hot and in other extreme cold; during autumn and winter (initially in Jun-Dec)...
\-Multiple fires break out; mainly in an ecological reserve with many particular species, which are killed by such a fire (Mar-Jun)...
\-Many rains and continuous storms (up to 10 days in a row), which bring flooding (Apr-Jun)...
\-Very strong winds and many tornadoes in North America (Especially in Colorado and Arizona) (Mar-Jun)...
\-Powerful and multiple hurricanes one after another, historic and very destructive (May-Sep)...
\-Solar storm and Extreme Temperatures. Solar flares that increase in frequency; It will affect the internet and telecommunications, which will cause problems with the connection and communication of people (May-Dec)...
\-Historical earthquakes in the United States, Mexico and South America (Sep-Dec)...
\-Volcanoes begin to activate in a chain throughout the world (May-Dec)...
\-In the middle of the year the temperatures drop as if it were winter; temperatures at the level of the north pole. An anticipated and historic harsh winter arrives. Mini ice age over North America; partially (Sep-Oct)...
\-Starts the harsh winter that breaks records; lasts until summer. The cold breaks pipes and glass. The snow buries houses and cars. Blizzards of cold and ice freeze people like statues. People freeze to death in their houses and cars (Initially in 2023)... After the long winter; strong heat waves come suddenly... at the end of the year (2024) winter turns into summer. Beginning of glacial melting (2024-2025)...
\-Stellar Events Begin... Astros approach the earth... Asteroid impacts that unleash chaos, war and a greater crisis. (2023-2025)...
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\-7. Solar Flash (Jun-Dec / 2023) - (Fragments from previous posts/Shortened):
\-Changes the axis of the earth and inversion of poles. The direct impact will cause a massive release of oxygen and nitrogen (side of the impact) due to atmospheric damage, this loss will be compensated with oxygen and nitrogen from the other side of the earth; People will feel that they are short of breath, they will feel that they are suffocating...
\-The planet begins to alter; in its nature, climate and seasons... Solar pulse that produces a biological and psychic alteration, even genetics will be affected. A cosmic update and improvement that affects every living thing that inhabits the solar system depending on its stellar position... The sun alters the earth and produces mutations in the biology and genetics of people. There will also be an increase in cases of burns and cancer in many people. Even technology and electronic devices will be negatively affected... Unusual changes arise in people; psychic abilities and latent abilities that were dormant/inactive begin to activate; many people begin to have visions; people begin to see and hear things... Very strong changes arise in society; people begin to "wake up". Changes in the mentality, perception and values of society; people begin to act in the world situation; initiatives, movements and philosophies arise in the world... But on the other hand there will be an alteration in the psyche of many people; people begin to act in a very violent and rickety way as if they had lost their reason; behaving like beasts; destroying, murdering and raping. And at the same time animals, birds and fish will begin to behave in a strange, stunted and hostile way; Many people are attacked by both wild animals (which enter cities and towns) as well as domestic ones that will begin to attack their owners... The world, society and nature begin to change greatly.
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\-In 2023 (The Collective Awakening) - (a small fragment of society section):
A collective "wake up" event happens; people begin to act and question the world situation. New initiatives, movements and philosophies arise... Society begins to transform. Sudden reactions occur among people and a triggering of acts and events (negative and positive)... People change their attitude, start to move in a different way; they change their purposes and priorities; people begin to take action on the situation. Then the uprising and confrontations begin; between people, on certain issues and against governments. Things start to come to light; people will wake up to reality as if it were a strong shock for them (which would trigger strong conflicts and social outbursts)...
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\-In 2023-2024 (Society is Angry; Social Collapse) - (a small fragment of society section):
People have a grudge against society and its governments... Armed attacks begin to be unleashed among the population; and the fights begin to grow until unleashing a massacre between society and attacks on the government... The world is filled with violence, riots and disorder as a result of the multiple oppositions between people; because of factions, racism and ideologies; because of the decadent and malicious behavior of society; because of the impunity and injustice that exists in the world; and because of government acts that cause greater disgust and discontent that brings even more problems and causes very negative reactions in the people. Massive protests, revolutions in the world, civil wars and a lot of violence in society break out... In these times, crime, perversity and deceit will be on the increase, just as they will be in the main positions of authority; we will reach a point where crime will be practically allowed; perversity will be justified; and deceit spread as truth. In these times, many will show their true face, their true nature and intentions... Violence and killing among society; a point will be reached where it will be practically normalized and common to see... Humanity will end up falling (it is necessary); Then a renewed and purified humanity will rise from the rubble.
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You are probably wondering how I know all this; I have had several visions (years ago) and I have had revealing dreams that I interpret as signs or messages of things that are to come to the world... Initially I became interested in these issues because of my first visions; I wanted to know "mysteries" and I wanted to know what was to come in the future... So I started looking for (ancient) prophecies and information spread about the future. Dreams and visions of other people that they share on social networks; Mainly of a Christian and Catholic nature in which people claim to receive dreams and visions from God. Alien contactee information; important information and warnings of the future from those beings from the stars. Certain predictions of some seers and psychics. Even "secret" and censored information that I have saved... All of this I have studied, researched and gathered (a lot of information that I have collected; amounts of information that is to such an extent that it overwhelms me and gives me headaches). So I started to put together my visions and dreams along with all the vast amount of information, dreams and visions that I have collected. In several documents (notebook) I began to compile and study... I began to synthesize and structure through logic, deduction and even "intuition"... Then I discovered and understood many things; I understood things about reality, what was happening and what was to come into the world. I finished a job that initially was only for myself, but then I thought: "Everyone has to know this...
I have solved a puzzle! I could say (I'm not sure) that I am the first to discover what is to come in the future and the dates of the prophetic events of which many have spoken. I could proudly say that I have solved what many have tried. I have discovered it!
Soon Collapse... A New Era Begins (Predictions: 2023-2025) (Part 1)**Original Title:: Visions and predictions of the Future 2023 - 2025 (Part 1)**
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Hello, my name is MΩRGAN. I will be clear and sincere: To summarize; I am not a seer or psychic, nor a time traveler, but I have some information in my possession about what is to come to the world... This is something complex and something to analyze calmly; You will see how this is fulfilled with your own eyes. This is not meant to scare or cause panic but something people need to know in order to make preparations. This information will reach the right people; the conscious people will prevail, the rest will ignore it and go on with their lives until it is too late. I've probably posted this late, but there's still time. This is a great and extensive work that you will not find anywhere else. This is my contribution in this world, share it and make this information known.
\*Note: I have tried to disseminate this information since January 13 (information that has already been completed since before the beginning of the year). I tried it a second time on January 27th. And for the third time on February 23. Now I'm trying again on March 1st (first posts; since of). My posts have been removed and have been deleted by reddit; I have learned from my last posts... This post is a modified and restructured version compared to previous versions (Reddit posts); I made the mistake of posting a lot of information (unnecessary for people) and I have also removed the "sensitive" information (for many people); information that was accused of being "exaggerated", "trash", "hate" and even "misogyny" (some fragments and more specifically a section that talks about society; about people, the world situation and their near future), the part that was the one that caused controversy. And because of removing the section about society I was able to complete the other sections and present them in more detail than previous versions posted on reddit. Even so, I will try to publish the removed section (society) together with things that I have omitted and other sections that I have not published on reddit in a second part (only on my profile)... I have disseminated this information in the Spanish-speaking media and communities (my native language) (where it was received relatively well and with interest) and now I try to do it on reddit, a platform mainly of English speakers, but it was not well received, especially in communities about crisis, preppers, collapse, end of the world, etc... I was disappointed... The people I try to warn are the same ones who attack me (almost as if they took it personally) and they want to silence this information; I thought people wanted to know the truth no matter if it was "good" or "bad". Disappointing... I think people just want to hear fanciful predictions from supposed time travelers and supposed psychics; They see the topics of crisis, collapse, news, etc... as entertainment... I am the person that perhaps many wanted to hear regarding these topics, I am the publication that many expected in this type of community; if you value this information keep it (copy the text) because it is very likely that this information will not be present for a long time here... I have removed certain things from my previous publications and have only published the main events, and I will also try not to spam with my posts. If the posts are removed or deleted, or if reddit suspends my account I will not return; This is my last attempt to spread this information on reddit.
\*Time will prove me right!
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\*This is a big effor content (only text; did you expect more?).
\*This is a translation from Spanish (original text); could have some errors.
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In the Year 2023 Everything Begins (2023-2024):
\-Initially in 2023: New viruses appear and begin to spread around the world...Crisis and economic problems suddenly and rapid changes regarding the economy...Nations begin to rise up and make alarming military movements.. Government changes; changes in laws and systems... Migration and changes of residence are increasing rapidly... protests in the world begin to increase, as well as violence and crime... Climate changes and many obvious natural disasters... strange stars and asteroids heading towards earth... Unique stellar events... Extraterrestrial manifestations in the sky and also on earth; and a situation by which the world will unite...
\-From March-May/2023: Everything begins and things accelerate. Big events, obvious changes and events begin to unleash one after another... New Pandemic, Economic Crisis, War and a Technological Event that begins to paralyze and confuse the world; global impact that gives rise to a major event... Things come to light; social rebellions break out and people start to move out. And at the end of the year: alarming changes, blackouts, crisis, unemployment, many deaths and global alarm; people will feel betrayed and deceived by their own governments and by global institutions... People will be under many restrictions and surveillance (you have to be careful what you do and say)... Migrations start all over the, increasing rapidly and continuously until the next few years (Mainly migrations fleeing out of the United States and Europe).
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\*All the sections are not complete (some fragments omitted to have more space).
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\-1. World Events (General) - (Omitted for more space): ... ... ...
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\-1. Political (Leaders and Government) - (Fragments from previous posts/Shortened): ... ... ... .
\-Joe Biden in presidential scandals. Biden is exposed as a fake president through a huge event and documents; illegal acts come to light. Kamala Harris begins to take relevance and prominence. Biden absent due to political problems and health problems; he abandons his term without finishing it. (Mid 2023)
\-Donald Trump returns (Restitution) and establishes the United States The Republic through trump and with trump in command. Two presidents in command (Joe biden President of the United States The Corporation. And Donald Trump President of the United States The Republic). (2023-2024)
\-Kamala Harris takes the leadership of the United States due to the absence of Joe Biden; she begins to make deals with China and changes that are a betrayal of the country; kamala makes many negative and detrimental changes to the nation. Aid to the population is cancelled. Also papers are cancelled; and demand for documents from the population (immigrants begin to be persecuted) (Sep-Dec/2023). Kamala takes control of the nation; Biden and Trump die (treason/murder). Kamala makes changes regarding weapons, metals, food and supplies; total changes in the nation and extremist acts against the population... Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton return to lead the United States together with Kamala Harris during the chaos and collapse of the nation; making changes to laws and extremist acts against the population. A woman will end up being the president of the United States. (2024-2025)
\-The President of Mexico makes deals with China and Ruisa; he then begins to make changes in the government that are are a betrayal of the country. The president cancelled aid to citizens and censuses are carried out. The military take over the schools. There will be persecution of anyone who does not identify themselves; immigrants and religions will be persecuted. Extremist acts will be carried out against the population... The president leaves without completing his term; instead a woman will take command. A woman will become the next president of Mexico. (2023-2024)
\-King Charles abdicates; Prince William becomes King, who will have a great role and authority during the global government. (End of 2024)
\-Pope Francis begins to move away from Rome with health problems that will be made public (2023). Pope Francis abdicates and disappears amid doctrinal scandals, divisions and conflicts in the Vatican; then two new popes appear fighting for the papal throne, but after a short time they flee or are assassinated (Second half of 2024).
\-The Great Leader. A Man rises up in the midst of global conflicts and crises (End of 2023 and Beginning of 2024). A man is presented who will be seen as a leader, who will produce many political, governmental and social changes; he will influence the rest of the nations of the world. The leader will begin as someone with great influence and with some authority, but at a certain point all the power and great authority in the entire world will be handed over to him... The leader will appear and speak to the nations; he will announce a plan for the good of the world and a treaty of peace between nations; message of peace and global unification; he ends up conquering the world with his words and plan, which is why he was given power. The leader will be seen as a world leader and the savior of the world. And after a global reset he will be given absolute global power.
\-Starts the reconstruction of the third temple of Jerusalem (related with a global religious unification); religious conflicts about it. The religious war arises in which Israel, Arab countries, China, Russia and the United States will be involved. (Initially in 2023; by the end of 2024 the temple will be halfway through its construction).
\-Scientific Advances Regarding Genetics. Science surprises the world with respect to genetics, assuring that they can modify human beings to improve them and to eliminate deficiencies and diseases. Man prematurely enters a new science, then everything will end in error and disaster.
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\-2. Biological (Health):
\-In Jan-May/2023: A new virus emerges worse than the previous one, which will be roaming the world; It will not be given importance and will be seen as a simple variant/strain (Attack by China against the United States, and to weaken the rest of the Nations). The Virus is difficult to detect and combat with a very rapid expansion capacity; It will start as something apparently calm and then get out of control and set off alarms. The new virus will be something very different from what is already known and will have a strange behavior; it has the ability to mutate, branching out into 2 possible transformations; At the beginning it will be thought that they are two different viruses but it will be a single one with the ability to mutate into two different versions depending on the person who carries it (The American Continent will be the main affected). The new virus spreads through air and water (people will not be able to drink or bathe); It will mainly affect children, the elderly and women; It will be related to the pets which will be taken from their owners to be cremated (even the owners themselves will get rid of their pets). And because of the situation the isolations return; People will enter the new lockdown in a relatively calm and cooperative manner (the economy is negatively affected by lockdowns).
\-In Jun-Sep/2023: Health emergency and exaggerated alarms; suddenly many begin to die (quickly and in large numbers); consequently a new stronger and stricter isolation than the previous one due to the pandemic virus; isolations very quickly and almost simultaneously throughout the world; many rules and strong restrictions. People go into hysterics; making panic purchases to the point of stealing, looting and fighting with other people to take away their purchases. Markets are depleted, and are closed... New vaccines are offered to the public and people are pressured to get vaccinated using legal papers. Many of those who are vaccinated will die, and those who survive will be infertile. The Government carries out censuses to measure losses and count people (especially pregnant women and those who have just had a baby). Tests by the Government to collect genetic material.
\-In Jul-Dec/2023: Two new viruses (pandemics) emerge, which worsen the situation and rapidly increase the number of deaths (One of these viruses mainly attacks the black race, producing attacks and rejections of these people until causing a race war). The first one is a virus that causes ulcers and sores throughout the body; people die in a matter of a few days. And the second one is a virus that causes bleeding from all the orifices of the body such as eyes, nose, ears, mouth and simple wounds; very fast and sudden death... World borders totally closed. Closed airports. Restrictions on the free movement of civilians. abandoned streets. Overburdened hospitals. People will not be paid their salary until they get vaccinated (even if they are working). Students will not be able to attend their classes until they are vaccinated.... Infected seas (fish appear dead on the coasts). Infected food and water... Worrying irregularities and effects regarding vaccines; people refuse to get vaccinated. Viruses and pandemics that will end up killing 1/3 of the global population.
\-In 2024: Multiple viruses in the world (angry people; it is discovered that it is an attack and betrayed the people). Law changes; Processes are beginning to progressively separate families as a result of the pandemic. Authorities visit houses and apartments to carry out vaccinations. There is a curfew, but people go out to protest and attack the Government... The coronavirus is once again a pandemic, which merges with the first virus that will already be widespread throughout the world. A new virus appears, something has never been seen before... The zombie virus emerges; it directly attacks the nervous system and inflames the brain, which makes them behave similar to a zombie; later they will behave aggressively and begin to attack people to eat them, behaving like a typical zombie from the movies. Animals, birds and fish will also be infected by the zombie virus, which will behave in a strange and hostile way... During the course of pandemics there will be strict and drastic forced isolation. Health system collapses; people will be left to die in the streets and in the corridors of hospitals; doctor and doctors protesting... There will be a lot of vaccine production in the world; people will be forcibly vaccinated by the military (there will even be impromptu vaccinations taking people by surprise in the streets and in their own neighborhoods), and those who do not want to be vaccinated will be persecuted... Global fertility problems. Problems with the uterus of women and regarding births. Children are separated from parents because of viruses. People are separated according to their symptoms. Immunological problems... Zombie Pandemic (2024-2025); people behave like beasts and irrationally attacking anyone in their path. Resurrections; people like zombie killing and eating people.
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\-3. Economy (Resources and Food):
\-In Jan-Jun/2023: Initially the economy is apparently good, but it will only be an illusion. Many things begin to increase their prices without decreasing and many products begin to be limited; inflation is evident. Fires, pollution and viruses that bring crop losses and death of the ecosystem. Serious problems with agriculture and livestock. Commercial transport is stopped; Problems arise that worsen the situation, therefore basic things and food begin to be scarce. Beginnings of food and water rationing. Markets progressively stop being supplied until there is no longer food or water available. Economic crisis and beginnings of world famine (Strikes and protests in this regard).
\-In Apr-Jul/2023: Sudden Impact on the Economy; the value of money changes negatively unexpectedly and sudden losses. Dollar and Euro devalued; Whoever has dollars or euros loses money. A blow to the stock market; economic instability and freezing banking system. Growth and the flow of money stops. Market in trouble and global economic stagnation. Negatively Affected Cryptocurrencies; losses... Rapid bank changes begin due to the situation; restrictions, money is frozen in banks and people will not be able to withdraw their own money. Banks being closed. Problems with jobs and businesses. Prices begin to rise rapidly (mainly food and medicine); unfair prices. Shortage of everything. Very expensive gasoline and cars begin to be abandoned. High prices on transport of all kinds. Businesses and companies make critical moves; they move to other countries; bankruptcies, closings and manipulations. Rising unemployment. People's money does not yield and they are forced to make forced expenses because of the situation; problems with the economic management of people. Disagreements, riots, robberies and looting arise because of the economic situation, and because of the people's need for food and water.
\-In May-Sep/2023: Chinese proposals arise for the world; changes that promise solution and stability; the world will be amazed; people and nations begin to participate quickly in the proposal. Something new is introduced to the market, something that changes the economy completely. A new economic system is implemented and a new cryptocurrency is introduced to the market that quickly gains popularity and growth. China's plan: The new cryptocurrency destabilizes the economies of nations; being forced to participate. Currencies, metals and cryptocurrencies are very negatively affected in their values and trade due to the new introduction.
\-In Sep-Dec/2023: The shortage explodes and is world news; shortages of food, water and supplies. Famine, thirst and poverty on the rise. Scarce food; loss of crops and food. Pests appear that destroy crops. Problems due to contamination and viruses. Scarce and poisoned water; problems regarding contamination, viruses and chemicals... Disproportionate and illogical taxes; many things become unpurchasable. Very expensive and limited food. Water prices skyrocket; extremely expensive. Controls with food. People are asked to return what they have bought... At the end of the year the controls are implemented and the new economic system is concluded; new and many restrictions; people lose the freedom to use their own money; people are limited in the quantity and frequency of their purchases; there will be records of what is bought, who buys it and to which house those purchases arrive. Changes regarding money, metals and cryptocurrencies. Cryptocurrencies crash (except the new cryptocurrency introduced). Metal prices skyrocket and start to exit the market. Food is regulated and water is restricted for the population. Bankrupt companies and corporations, and soon disappear. Serious devaluation problem (especially the Dollar and Euro).
\-In Jan-Apr/2024: Total economic control and new operating system. Basic and essential things are retained and controlled by the governments of the world. People are controlled through resources, money and health. The introduction of the new cryptocurrency is a total success; the global population and the nations of the world participating in the new cryptocurrency and the new economic system. The new systems seem to bring relative solution and stability... In the United States, people flee to the southern border to feed on the resources of Mexico; people want to flee the United States and border conflicts arise (especially ending 2024). Very poor Europe, with a lot of scarcity and crisis; people want to flee Europe (especially ending 2024).
\-In May-Aug/2024: Global bank robberies suddenly; people lose all their money from one moment to another (rich people and poor people); situation that unleashes new conflicts and a war. Global economic collapse and money disappears. People are required to hand over their food, metals, and medicines by law; the preppers will be criminalized and blamed for the situation (The government and the people persecute the preppers)... Civil war and revolutions break out all over the world. Conflicts break out in South America, the Middle East and around Europe. Imminent Global War.
\-In Sep-Dec/2024: Great Famine and Global Poverty. Shelters around the world as a result of the situation; lots of homeless people. Robberies, looting, fights and riots everywhere as a result of the situation. People kill other people for food and supplies; and many people turn to cannibalism mainly on the United States and Europe (At the end of 2024).
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\-4. Nations (International Relations/War):
\-In 2023: tensions between nations; war mobilizations that do not go unnoticed and a warlike environment in the world. Dialogue and deals between nations but they do not reach any agreement; then the dialogues turn into menaces, aggressive acts and sudden attacks that complicate things. The armies begin to mobilize in full view of all; alarmed people. Sudden impacts and acts that cause crises and imminent military battles. The invasions begin; and they begin to use biological, chemical and nuclear weapons (there will begin to be nuclear detonations in different parts of the world) (2023-2024)... The year 2023 will be the beginning of strong military mobilizations, chemical and biological attacks; armed terrorist attacks and also 9/11 type terrorist attacks mainly on the United States and Europe (One of the main targets of the terrorist attacks will be the Golden Gate Bridge).
\-In May-Dec/2023: Strong Tensions and Imminent War. Discussions and struggles between countries. Global communication problems and misunderstandings that lead to conflicts. Hasty and foolish acts by the United States that leaves it in a vulnerable situation and directed to self-defeat (US is the first to attack in a hidden way; when China and Russia react will be accused of being the first ones to attack). Nations act; They are no longer supported only with words but are beginning to support each other militarily and economically... Mobilizations of troops and soldiers worldwide. Laws are broken and international deals are also broken. Violations of maritime territory... Alarming events; sudden attacks between nations and military clashes. Conflicts over events of the past (historical). Nations start wars to recover territories... In the midst of tensions and battles, betrayals and sudden alliances take place... Venezuela in conflict with Colombia. Mexico has conflicts with the United States (Mexico makes an alliance with China and Russia; it participates in the same plan and system). Iran re-enters the world stage; in conflict and making deals with russia (sharing arms). European nations rise up against Russia. China at War with Asia (mainly Taiwan). Russia at war with Europe (mainly Ukraine). The United States interferes against China and Russia. Unforeseen nations enter the scene and join China. The Middle East begins to enter the conflict; and immigrants from the Middle East begin to arrive in Mexico for the purpose of war against the United States. China and Russia hold each other strong and stable; contracts with alliances are consolidated.
\-In Aug-Dec/2023: Temporary peace treaties emerge to stop the war and deal with the global crisis. Unifications between nations to deal with the situation. Measures following war attacks; global changes and new systems being implemented. Changes in the attitude of governments towards the population.... In the midst of the war, the United States, China and Russia begin a deal to pacify the situation. United States in severe crisis; seeks to make a peace deal with China; The United States declares that it does not want problems and the need to attend to the global situation. China accepts; feigns friendship and offers help to the United States; China offers its support and offers which are accepted (China begins to infiltrate governmentally and militarily and then attack from within and take control of the country).
\-In Jan-Sep/2024: The World in Crisis. Social problems. Famine and official thirst in the world... The World enters into a joint plan to solve the global situation. The United States dealing with serious economic problems and scarcity along with social disorder and violence. China and the UN begin to help the United States; China and UN Send Food and Supplies to Help; China and the UN send soldiers to deal with the social crisis. In the midst of apparent peace, China would be moving stealthily; setting a trap for the United States; positioning themselves and executing a plan (when the United States reacts the enemy will already be at home; US will be abandoned and cornered).
\-In May-Aug/2024: In the midst of the apparent peace, wars suddenly revive and deals are broken. Nations no longer negotiate or talk to each other; nations simply act without listening or discussing... Wars in the world. Sudden attacks, military mobilizations, battles and nuclear detonations in different parts of the world... Arab countries rise up to make war. North Korea and South Korea at war (in 2024-2025 the two Koreas will unite again). Southern states of the United States seek to secede because of the deals that the nation made with China and Russia (unfavorable) and because of changes in laws. Europe in crisis and dealing with population revolutions. South America in conflict; there will be use of weapons and troops in battle; War declared between Venezuela and Colombia. Wars in the Caribbean and South America. The UN and NATO intervene in the situation. United States dealing with crises and problems; fulfilling deals with China and Russia that forbids it from acting in the face of conflicts (the United States promised not to interfere in global conflicts, promised to collaborate in the global situation together with China and Russia). The United States begins to mobilize and move troops with dubious justifications; so, China accepts and assures that it will not intervene in its affairs.
\-In Aug-Nov/2024: Conflicts and Wars declared in the world. The United States breaks the deals it made with China and Russia (the United States decides to take action, especting that it will count on its alliances to fight together). The United States suddenly changes its plans and invades Venezuela; acts that are a violation of laws and international treaties, for which the allies break alliances with the United States (the allies initially support the United States to go to war and then abandon it in the middle of the battle, using the transgressions as an excuse regarding international law and treaties; the United States is betrayed by its own allies). Then China and Russia leave behind all the deals and agreement to start acting; they no longer want to talk or discuss; heading for total war. The Chinese troops act from within together with the UN troops... China and Ruisa prepare to attack while the United States sends all its troops to Venezuela, the Caribbean and Europe. In the middle of the war the allies abandon the United States (also the border "friends" abandon and turn against the nation); and suddenly its electrical and technological system is attacked (Electromagnetic Pulse Attack), followed by 3 nuclear impacts (New York, Los Angeles and Las Vegas). United States Falls; he is left disabled, blinded to the world, and unable to defend and attack. The World abandons and restricts the United States (later South America will support and feed North America). Soon China, Russia and allies invade and occupy the United States together with the UN (while the American armies are absent). United States invaded and occupied; foreign armies dominate the streets and take control of the country and its population.
\-In Nov-Dec/2024: The Total War begins that will end in a Global Holocaust, a war that will end in the spring of 2025. China against Asia and Russia against Europe; then the middle east rises up in the middle of the war to expand throughout the world; radical Islam resurfaces (worldwide)... The World in crisis and with severe problems. Europe looted, without resources and devastated; people want to flee Europe. The United States falls and its states are divided; people leave the nation fleeing to the borders, but the borders will be guarded by Chinese, Russian, Mexican and Canadian armies (many are killed on the way). Latin America begins to rise because of the fall of the United States and its economic control in the world... Russia wins and achieves its goal but is left very damaged and worn out. And China achieves victory against its enemies... China offers its guidance and help to the rest of the nations in the face of the situation (Unification in a system and regime for the good of the world); China takes control of the world and makes changes globally; China rules the world. Arab countries, China and Russia unite to run the world under an "Arab-Communist" regime.
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\-5. Exopolitics (Alien Revelation) - (Shortened):
\-The extraterrestrial theme becomes something very popular and evident to the population; and much dissemination about it. Alien manifestations begin to increase more frequently and clearly (the same aliens seek to show themselves to humanity), but people will not believe what they see with their own eyes. There will be ships that people will record closely and sightings of aliens among society which will be disseminated on social networks (in open places, among people and even in positions of authority / government). Even the aliens themselves will be present on the internet and social networks (but it will be censored)... The armies of the world begin to move by land, water and air attacking ships "invading territory", with the supposed intention of defending the population. Information will be disseminated about an alien invasion... In the midst of news of strong sightings and speculation of a supposed alien invasion, the ALIEN DISCLOSURE begins.
\--Starts the Extraterrestrial Revelation; a global contact and the existence of other intelligences in the stars are made public and officially known, as well as their presence on the planet; an alliance with the earth that already existed is made known... The population will be told things about aliens and a situation that will surprise the world; an alliance and deals that humanity will not believe or understand will be made known, something very different from what humanity thought or imagined would be said; Humanity will believe that they are being lied, so they react and respond in a bad way... Aliens will be announced globally and will be presented to humanity by the main leaders (then humanity begins to approach them with respect and education, trying to understand the extraterrestrial reality and the situation). \*Planet Earth is an extremely important place for many extraterrestrial species, which has been isolated for a long time, but that isolation is about to be removed; a very important planet, abundant in resources and with great strategic value for a stellar conflict in which the earth is heavily involved... ... ...
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\-6. Planetary and Climate Change 2023/2024 (Shortened):
\-The earth begins to behave strangely. Phenomena in the skies and natural phenomena on earth out of the ordinary. Climate change and natural disasters are beginning to increase around the world; in intensity and frequency. Seasons change their course and regional climates change; In hot places there will be snowfalls and in cold places there will be droughts...
\-Earthquakes around the world that will be big news; stronger and more frequent (Feb-Aug)...
\-The ring of fire is activated; multiple and strong earthquakes accompanied by huge tsunamis, but the strongest and most devastating earthquake will be in California, San Andres (Feb-May)...
\-Huge tsunamis on the world's coasts (Feb-Dec)...
\-Strong temperature changes. Sudden cold as if it were winter in the Northern Hemisphere (Apr-Sep)...
\-Intense heat mainly in Asia, Europe and South America. In certain parts it will be extremely hot and in other extreme cold; during autumn and winter (initially in Jun-Dec)...
\-Multiple fires break out; mainly in an ecological reserve with many particular species, which are killed by such a fire (Mar-Jun)...
\-Many rains and continuous storms (up to 10 days in a row), which bring flooding (Apr-Jun)...
\-Very strong winds and many tornadoes in North America (Especially in Colorado and Arizona) (Mar-Jun)...
\-Powerful and multiple hurricanes one after another, historic and very destructive (May-Sep)...
\-Solar storm and Extreme Temperatures. Solar flares that increase in frequency; It will affect the internet and telecommunications, which will cause problems with the connection and communication of people (May-Dec)...
\-Historical earthquakes in the United States, Mexico and South America (Sep-Dec)...
\-Volcanoes begin to activate in a chain throughout the world (May-Dec)...
\-In the middle of the year the temperatures drop as if it were winter; temperatures at the level of the north pole. An anticipated and historic harsh winter arrives. Mini ice age over North America; partially (Sep-Oct)...
\-Starts the harsh winter that breaks records; lasts until summer. The cold breaks pipes and glass. The snow buries houses and cars. Blizzards of cold and ice freeze people like statues. People freeze to death in their houses and cars (Initially in 2023)... After the long winter; strong heat waves come suddenly... at the end of the year (2024) winter turns into summer. Beginning of glacial melting (2024-2025)...
\-Stellar Events Begin... Astros approach the earth... Asteroid impacts that unleash chaos, war and a greater crisis. (2023-2025)...
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\-7. Solar Flash (Jun-Dec / 2023) - (Fragments from previous posts/Shortened):
\-Changes the axis of the earth and inversion of poles. The direct impact will cause a massive release of oxygen and nitrogen (side of the impact) due to atmospheric damage, this loss will be compensated with oxygen and nitrogen from the other side of the earth; People will feel that they are short of breath, they will feel that they are suffocating...
\-The planet begins to alter; in its nature, climate and seasons... Solar pulse that produces a biological and psychic alteration, even genetics will be affected. A cosmic update and improvement that affects every living thing that inhabits the solar system depending on its stellar position... The sun alters the earth and produces mutations in the biology and genetics of people. There will also be an increase in cases of burns and cancer in many people. Even technology and electronic devices will be negatively affected... Unusual changes arise in people; psychic abilities and latent abilities that were dormant/inactive begin to activate; many people begin to have visions; people begin to see and hear things... Very strong changes arise in society; people begin to "wake up". Changes in the mentality, perception and values of society; people begin to act in the world situation; initiatives, movements and philosophies arise in the world... But on the other hand there will be an alteration in the psyche of many people; people begin to act in a very violent and rickety way as if they had lost their reason; behaving like beasts; destroying, murdering and raping. And at the same time animals, birds and fish will begin to behave in a strange, stunted and hostile way; Many people are attacked by both wild animals (which enter cities and towns) as well as domestic ones that will begin to attack their owners... The world, society and nature begin to change greatly.
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\-In 2023 (The Collective Awakening) - (a small fragment of society section):
A collective "wake up" event happens; people begin to act and question the world situation. New initiatives, movements and philosophies arise... Society begins to transform. Sudden reactions occur among people and a triggering of acts and events (negative and positive)... People change their attitude, start to move in a different way; they change their purposes and priorities; people begin to take action on the situation. Then the uprising and confrontations begin; between people, on certain issues and against governments. Things start to come to light; people will wake up to reality as if it were a strong shock for them (which would trigger strong conflicts and social outbursts)...
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\-In 2023-2024 (Society is Angry; Social Collapse) - (a small fragment of society section):
People have a grudge against society and its governments... Armed attacks begin to be unleashed among the population; and the fights begin to grow until unleashing a massacre between society and attacks on the government... The world is filled with violence, riots and disorder as a result of the multiple oppositions between people; because of factions, racism and ideologies; because of the decadent and malicious behavior of society; because of the impunity and injustice that exists in the world; and because of government acts that cause greater disgust and discontent that brings even more problems and causes very negative reactions in the people. Massive protests, revolutions in the world, civil wars and a lot of violence in society break out... In these times, crime, perversity and deceit will be on the increase, just as they will be in the main positions of authority; we will reach a point where crime will be practically allowed; perversity will be justified; and deceit spread as truth. In these times, many will show their true face, their true nature and intentions... Violence and killing among society; a point will be reached where it will be practically normalized and common to see... Humanity will end up falling (it is necessary); Then a renewed and purified humanity will rise from the rubble.
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You are probably wondering how I know all this; I have had several visions (years ago) and I have had revealing dreams that I interpret as signs or messages of things that are to come to the world... Initially I became interested in these issues because of my first visions; I wanted to know "mysteries" and I wanted to know what was to come in the future... So I started looking for (ancient) prophecies and information spread about the future. Dreams and visions of other people that they share on social networks; Mainly of a Christian and Catholic nature in which people claim to receive dreams and visions from God. Alien contactee information; important information and warnings of the future from those beings from the stars. Certain predictions of some seers and psychics. Even "secret" and censored information that I have saved... All of this I have studied, researched and gathered (a lot of information that I have collected; amounts of information that is to such an extent that it overwhelms me and gives me headaches). So I started to put together my visions and dreams along with all the vast amount of information, dreams and visions that I have collected. In several documents (notebook) I began to compile and study... I began to synthesize and structure through logic, deduction and even "intuition"... Then I discovered and understood many things; I understood things about reality, what was happening and what was to come into the world. I finished a job that initially was only for myself, but then I thought: "Everyone has to know this...
I have solved a puzzle! I could say (I'm not sure) that I am the first to discover what is to come in the future and the dates of the prophetic events of which many have spoken. I could proudly say that I have solved what many have tried. I have discovered it!
Robins aren’t the ones who destroyed the planet.
Wow, what a bunch of boomer doomer trash as I explore comments.
Want to stop the consumption? KYS. You're seemingly not while using resources you say are limited.
Go away.
Wow, what a bunch of boomer doomer trash as I explore comments.
Want to stop the consumption? KYS. You're seemingly not while using resources you say are limited.
Go away.
Go home Clicker, you're drunk.
"Gotta be a cunt to get in front"
Really shit take you have there, why even post? Nothing matters to you right?
Also, actual scientist here and even I'm not a doomer. "Science doesn't care about your feelings", lol. Please tell me more /s
Really shit take you have there, why even post? Nothing matters to you right?
Also, actual scientist here and even I'm not a doomer. "Science doesn't care about your feelings", lol. Please tell me more /s
What makes you think I don't?
I understand the situation far better than some luddite on the internet telling scientists how to science that's for damn sure. Are you just trolling now? How many times are you going to say obvious things expecting me to disagree?
You just have a shit take. That's after we agree on the facts. It might be associated with your shit attitude, worth considering...
Edit: After reading that again, maybe you're just an angsty teen; in which case, forget what I said and angst away
What makes you think I don't?
I understand the situation far better than some luddite on the internet telling scientists how to science that's for damn sure. Are you just trolling now? How many times are you going to say obvious things expecting me to disagree?
You just have a shit take. That's after we agree on the facts. It might be associated with your shit attitude, worth considering...
Edit: After reading that again, maybe you're just an angsty teen; in which case, forget what I said and angst away
Mods took my last reply down because I got too saucy.
Here is the sanitized version:
In my opinion, anticapitalistic arguments are simplistic and naive but I am not pro capitalism. i am anti-crappy logic. sadly there are many pro-socialist and pro-communist people on this sub so when I speak up they down vote and get pissy. whatever.
my thesis is this: humans suck. there is no system under which humanity will not suck. ergo it is pure hopium that socialism will save the day. i mean, don't get me wrong, socialism works great for scandinavians. but they have hyugge so they can pull it off.
so telling me i am simping for capitalism is hilarious to me.
HUMANS SUCK: CHANGE MY MIND!
Hell is a fate we all share
Get off your high horse man millennial have yet to really do anything good for the world either except consume. I can say that I am one.
Get off your high horse man millennial have yet to really do anything good for the world either except consume. I can say that I am one.
Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
now take your third paragraph and apply it to peter thiel or the rise of fascism
you aren't missing much except dead cgi philip seymour hoffmann
Gonna disagree with that hash tag. I am an avowed rAIcist. I’m not gonna let some bithead job stealin’ binary brained metal mouth chiptard robits push me around. Ha
Adoption will always have been the better option. You could have taken a child out of a horrible situation, instead you're just adding to the pile of wage slaves.
My man/woman do I really need to point out the conspiracy nuts and religious fruit cakes on 2023?
Based on that you are ignoring the conspiracy part. I assume you are religious
You are free to have your beliefs. Practice them however and whenever you want. In fact I would advocate for your right to practice them
The issue is that extremist people attempt to "save" others by force repeatedly. If this dosn't work they shift to violence
We are seeing this with extremists on Islam in Iran, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc.. Christians in America, Brazil, Uganda, South Korea etc...Hindus in Canda, India, UK etc...
Regardless of faith they follow a similar path ( shown in the meme)
If you arn't an extremist why are you angry?
Go pray for my soul
My man/woman do I really need to point out the conspiracy nuts and religious fruit cakes on 2023?
Based on that you are ignoring the conspiracy part. I assume you are religious
You are free to have your beliefs. Practice them however and whenever you want. In fact I would advocate for your right to practice them
The issue is that extremist people attempt to "save" others by force repeatedly. If this dosn't work they shift to violence
We are seeing this with extremists on Islam in Iran, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan etc.. Christians in America, Brazil, Uganda, South Korea etc...Hindus in Canda, India, UK etc...
Regardless of faith they follow a similar path ( shown in the meme)
If you arn't an extremist why are you angry?
Go pray for my soul
That is a gross misunderstanding of the scriptures.
Christianity is not a religion, only the tradition of the Son, by which all mankind, indeed the Cosmos, has been saved.
Someone is severely misunderstanding, "Render Unto Caesar, What be Caesar's" if you have been taught we blindly obey the secular authorities.
Jesus Christ is Caesarion. He was telling you to give his family what belongs to them.
That is a gross misunderstanding of the scriptures.
Christianity is not a religion, only the tradition of the Son, by which all mankind, indeed the Cosmos, has been saved.
Someone is severely misunderstanding, "Render Unto Caesar, What be Caesar's" if you have been taught we blindly obey the secular authorities.
Jesus Christ is Caesarion. He was telling you to give his family what belongs to them.
The Faith isn't a religion. It is the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ. The only pure religion is remaining undefiled in this world, while assisting those in need... the Orphan, Fatherless, Widows...
To quote James the younger.
The Faith isn't a religion. It is the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ. The only pure religion is remaining undefiled in this world, while assisting those in need... the Orphan, Fatherless, Widows...
To quote James the younger.
Absolute bullshit completely manipulated data to enforce another narrative to enable wealth transfer 2 its so predictable it’s laughable
Absolute bullshit completely manipulated data to enforce another narrative to enable wealth transfer 2 its so predictable it’s laughable
What do you mean secular? This is sacred work ethic promoted by World Religions like Christianity: work hard, don't call for help, sacrifice yourself for "the economy" - that's how you get post-mortem rewards. Be "lazy" and God punishes you, and being poor obviously means you're bad and deserve no help.
The secular world is exceedingly hard to exist in. The lack of mercy applied by corporations and the state is something I find personally appalling.
Documenting collapse to "educate" friends - help most welcomeHello,
I've been lurking here and there for a very long time, and I feel we've now come to a time where I feel quite uncomfortable going through my day-to-day around people talking as if collapse wasn't a thing.
I feel it is slowly driving me insane, or at lease making me feel more and more uncomfortable socially, to be around people in their 25-35 talking about retirement. I'm sure most of our community here knows this feeling, and knows how easy it can be to be seen as crazy or conspirationnist, or just overly dramatic and not taken seriously, when stating collapse-related facts without providing documentation. That is why I want to compile a documented and factual list of major collapse-related shit happening right now, so that I can give facts to people around me and hopefully they can see for themselves how bad shit is.
I want people around me to see for themselves how everything is going to shit, from climate to late stage capitalism, from health and pandemics to emerging international conflicts, and so on. You know the drill. I feel responsible as a friend to help my friends understand the context we live in and we are gonna live in, so they can make informed and educated choices for their own lives. I feel it is part of collectively supporting each other, and helping each other out.
I think I could definitely use anyone's help in making sure this is as exhaustive as possible on the "major facts" and well-documented; as I am sure people here share the feeling I have. In any case, I will update and post what I have on this thread, in hopes it can help anyone here as well!
As of today, March 4th, this is what I have in the top of my head that I would like to document, or be more precise:
Climate:
\- Various concrete datas and talks on how bad shit is generally.
\- Current and future climate disasters
\- El niño and what its bringing
\- Blue ocean
\- Oceans being fucked and what it means
\- Holocene, and the death of animals on Earth and in our waters, and the consequences for our ecosystems and societies
\- Food shortages stuff
\- future climate mass migrations and how we are not ready for this
\- Guterres despair speeches that no governments listen to
\- I feel there are important things about resources and energy but I am not informed enough (yet)
Health:
\- All the plastic in blood shit
\- Can't grow non-toxic food on soil anymore, can't eat wild fish anymore
\- Cancers in youth
\- Our new old friend H5N1 piling up mammal bodies and discovered in humans in China and Cambodia
Late stage capitalism (there is so much here I don't even know what the main points would be):
\- Kids are making our stuff, still, regardless of what they promised
\- United States dangerously close to not be so United anymore
\- Billionaires and companies making record profits and more and more when we are all starving more and more
\- Those super luxurious bunkers of billionaires who damn well know what is going on
\- Unhinged AI tech deployed in an unsafe way bc under the umbrella of capitalism
\- People starving and having
\- Finland PM saying maybe we should stop capitalism rn
\- Probably a lot of stuff tbh - I think the most important ones would be thing that shows how our economy will crumble for sure, and endless growth is just not possible anymore without costing lives.
Global conflict(s):
\- Mostly two angles, first one is how the Ukraine-Russia war is transitionning into global conflict with tensions rising between US and China, Russia and NATO, everyone choosing their sides, everyone financing the war and not just sending defensive stuff but going in with offensive equipment, tensions with Moldavia, Serbia
\- Second one is the growing nuclear/weapon of mass destruction threat
Am I forgetting important things? From the top of my head I feel like that sums it up but I am probably forgetting important stuff. I am gonna start adding links to relevant articles, and if you have anything please you are most welcome to share.
Together we are stronger, the collective will prevail, take care of your loved ones and yourself! Thank you for reading, thank you for your help, and I hope this will help someone here as well once finished :)
Round Up is so evil. It was linked with the increase in autism also.
why do people think that global collapse is personal issue instead of a political/ economic one?i’ve noticed people (especially younger people) try to avoid environmental issues because it tends to make you feel bad about yourself. But if people were able to look past the negative feelings we could actually get changes.
i’m 16 years old, and i care about the earth and people as a whole so i try to be annoying as hell about the issues that currently plague our planet. but every once and awhile i feel bad about myself even though i’m doing the best i can, but it does feel like the system wants you to blame yourself instead of the the system.
and of course people should try to do there best to make changes in their communities, but it’s a system that needs to be broken by a lot of people not just one person.
Why are we made to think we shouldn’t work together and make these changes, and of course share compassion and love with each other! ❤️
The link with Round Up exposure has to do with maternal immune reaction to the exposure affecting the formation of the fetus' brain and alterations to the fetus' gut microbiome:
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32398374/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32398374/)
The reality is that neurodiversity is no doubt fundamental to our evolution as a species. Autism, bipolar, schizophrenia, ADHD, etc. are of course, all a part of natural variation. But, depending on things people do, it can increase the likelihood of developing any one of these.
Some of this is caused by brain inflammation and immune activity.
For example, there's a link between developing bipolar and head injury between the ages of 11 and 15: [https://psychcentral.com/blog/bipolar-laid-bare/2017/10/bipolar-disorder-traumatic-brain-injury#2](https://psychcentral.com/blog/bipolar-laid-bare/2017/10/bipolar-disorder-traumatic-brain-injury#2)
Some of it is due to exposure to various substances, the effect of which is heightened at critical periods of brain development.
There's a link between developing bipolar after being treated with SSRI's for unipolar depression: [https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151216082204.htm](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151216082204.htm)
There's a link between cannabis use and developing schizophrenia: [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32839678/)
Some of it is behavioral, altering brain function through habitual or addictive behaviors.
The link between internet and smartphone use and ADHD: [https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/can-cell-phone-use-cause-adhd-2018073114375](https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/can-cell-phone-use-cause-adhd-2018073114375)
The way genes get altered after conception is called epigenetics. It's a very intriguing field.
One thing researchers found fairly recently is that early childhood trauma causes epigenetic changes that alters the expression of genes and restructures the brain. This fundamental physical change causes the person's body to release more cortisol (the stress hormone) anytime a negative life event occurs.
The study found that this shorted life expectancy by as much as 19 years, mostly due to consequent higher lifetime rates of mental illness, heart disease, autoimmune disease and cancer. The negative effect was proportional to the amount of childhood trauma experienced by the individual.
When the department of immigration was separating children from their parents after crossing the US border, many experts in child welfare protested, because this new research reveals that a traumatic event like that will damage those children's health for the rest of their now shortened lives. The words, 'crimes against humanity' comes to mind.
Narrator: true dat broski
I’m paraphrasing here: “We have to begin traveling down the dark side of the mountain, and turn away from our endless quest into the light.”
I found the talk sort of enlightening, in that i never thought about what it must feel like being a climate change advocate ignored and ridiculed for many years. I also liked how he referenced the first step from aa about how admitting powerlessness opens one up to growth.
What?
I’m just stringing words together because I think education and poverty are linked? Please take a sociology class.
The United States is one of the countries with massively falling birthrates, they’re just not as low as Europe yet. Sorry I didn’t factor culture and religion (mainly Catholicism) into my two paragraph Reddit post.
What a joke
Hi J.C., greetings --
I haven't been to Cuba yet but I'll visit one of these days, as I plan to go to medical school in Cuba + El Salvador. I am of course curious to hear your experience of Cuba.
There are legitimate critiques one can make of specific aspects of Cuba's social formation, but most Reddit critiques are not at all from a historical-materialist perspective but from a position that is blind to neocolonialism and imperialism.
For example, *"I can say that Cuba could be a hunter-gatherer paradise like the Sentielese inhabit,"* but I'm not sure what the plan would be to prevent U.S. corporations from moving in and turning Cuba into a neocolony for capitalist expropriation. North Sentinel Island isn't in the belly of the beast of the Imperium; Lat Am exists in a different context and Cuba has concrete experience of U.S. invasion and interference in recent history, as does multiple countries across Lat Am.
However, like I said, there are legitimate critiques. There are some within the Cuban government who take a hyper-technologist approach to agriculture and want to see more GMOs and other technologies deployed at greater scale. This line in the Cuban government exists in tension with those who would prefer the expansion of agroecology. Like other human social formations, Cuban society and governance is not a monolith but has its own inner contradictions.
But my point stands: that socialist planning in Cuba demonstrates the superiority of certain kinds of planning when it comes to ecological well-being (as Cuba has meaningfully healed much of the metabolic rift associated with industrial agriculture), as opposed to leaving things "up to Nature," which in today's world means leaving things up to the whims of the capitalist market and its patterns of expropriation and exploitation, which is thoroughly anti-ecological.
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>To take your statement from the converse, to argue "feed everyone, everywhere, never let people lack food" is basically saying "displace any suffering from humans onto non-humans and Nature, sacrifice it all so that humans worldwide never go without"
No, this position is nonsensical, for if all of nature was sacrificed then humans worldwide would go without (if conditions of production are degraded to the point that the possibility of production is negated, then human-society-in-nature would not survive).
Have you read Murray Bookchin's *The Philosophy of Social Ecology*? Your position seems to entail a very hard human <> nature binary, a kind of zero-sum view of human and natural flourishing, which I view as a false dichotomy.
We need a Foundation style techno-religion to control the world. It would be totally based and poggers
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I usually write kids poetry. Trying to boost my work at the moment by doing 30-in-30 and piece together a book or something.
Unfortunately a lot of what I want to write is far too depressing. This is a good example - society just carrying on and ignoring all the warning signs.
Edit: wagggh, this is stressful. It’s linked to collapse because as society is collapsing and people are protesting against dangerous practices, the majority of people (who don’t want the world to die) just continue living life as normal and complaining about those who do want to try to slow things down.
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Wrote a little poem
Wrote a little poem
So your plan is to not have vacations and fun while you still can so you can go die a little later in a small town?
Its crazy how many people think they will live through the collapse.
Enjoy your life now people
My fear is that a lot of people on what you might call the "dirtbag Left" or "contrarian Left" will end up falling in with these people. You see this even here on Reddit (places like /r/antiwork or /r/latestagecapitalism) - a lot of people self-identify as Leftist, but the talking points they spout are sort of generically populist/anti-elitist, but generally lack any positive vision. It's all negative partisanship.
I suspect a lot of these people who are more into saying "fuck you" to the status quo and less connected to things like local organizing networks or Food Not Bombs kind of stuff are at real risk of falling in with these wackos.
There’s not much in here that hasn’t been explored elsewhere in antinatalist philosophy imo, but learning about this guy was a treat:
“Other pro-extinctionists have advocated for both antinatalism and pro-mortalism. An example is the 19th-century German pessimist Philipp Mainländer, who argued that we should not just refrain from procreating, but never have sex in the first place – in other words, we should all remain virgins. He also endorsed suicide, and indeed shortly after receiving the first copies of Volume I of his magnum opus The Philosophy of Redemption (1876), he placed them on the floor, stood on top of them, stepped off, and hanged himself. He was only 34 years old, and wasn’t the only person in his family to commit suicide: his older brother and sister did, too.”
> At what point do we start getting the “It’s not ACTUALLY faster than expected, you’ve all been gaslit due to world governments sucking off CEOs for crude oil.”?
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you are exactly correct. all of the greenwashing going on went out the window as soon as russia threatened to turn off europe's taps. [just in europe alone, they spent 768 billion euros in fossil fuel subsidies to insulate customers from skyrocketing fossil fuel prices.](https://www.bruegel.org/dataset/national-policies-shield-consumers-rising-energy-prices#:~:text=Since%20the%20start%20of%20the,been%20earmarked%20by%20Germany%20alone)
the modern day divine right to rule is little more than the government ensuring that people can get cheap energy, once that dries up good luck lol
Sooner. Than. Expected.
> If you want scary check out the mercenary groups that Erik Prince runs. When they show up I'll be a lot more concerned.
DO YOU EVEN LISTEN TO YOURSELF???
You _know they exist_, in combination with the other violence you'd _think_ that you'd start to have a clue.
You’re absolutely ridiculous. I hope you don’t have the audacity to moan as you stand back and let your country burn. I’ll focus on my own country thanks, think the world would be better off without the US anyway.
You’re absolutely ridiculous. I hope you don’t have the audacity to moan as you stand back and let your country burn. I’ll focus on my own country thanks, think the world would be better off without the US anyway.
I'm curious how the war is going to be contained. I hear it will be a long one, so perhaps the theatre will expand. Perhaps there will be a South China sea element as well.
Were we at such a precipice that there was no other option but to provoke Russia? Seems really bad if thats true. Guess things are really bad.
Center for the study of Existential Riskdedicated to the study and mitigation of risks that could lead to human extinction or civilisational collapse
[WWW.CSER.AC.UK](https://www.cser.ac.uk/)
I've just been made aware of this Academic Research Centre. I've read a couple of the PEER-REVIEWED articles , very good BTW.
Just thought it would be a good addition to our group & perhaps to our resource list?....
You’re forgetting the most damaging side effect of this is how do we prevent overpopulation and rampant unchecked growth with such infinite resources.
My guess is some sort of bio weapon that we trick the population into injecting in their arm. Create a “vaccine” with a time delay and they take it and 5 years later they have terminal heart issues and then inject as many people with it as possible.
You’re forgetting the most damaging side effect of this is how do we prevent overpopulation and rampant unchecked growth with such infinite resources.
My guess is some sort of bio weapon that we trick the population into injecting in their arm. Create a “vaccine” with a time delay and they take it and 5 years later they have terminal heart issues and then inject as many people with it as possible.
This type of optimism becomes delusion when you try to hold on to a belief that a miracle solution might be on the horizon to preserve your way of life and solve all our problems.
However there is still a place for optimism in a collapsing world if you can come to terms with reality. If you can accept a future destitute of modern comforts then your expectations might be met.
For example. Riding your bicycle to work can lead to different mindsets whether you choose to do so because you enjoy the activity or because you have no other choice and are forced to do so.
On one hand it is your choice and you are left content and maybe with a sense of free will.
On the other hand, you are submitted to poverty.
edit: clarification.
Youre confused. What the Ukraine was really about is affirming US domination over Europe. We lost our ability to negotiate independantly with Russia. Were going to lose our industry and become essentially a financial-consumer colony of American goods and services until Russian psyops eventually succeed at breaking up the EU.
That or the Chinese "save" us somehow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSVyyykaEOo
Do [these girls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FXiZblCevo&t=169s) look like cavemen to you?
The thing is we had this before. We all used to live like this. Then we decided to throw it all away for the endless pursuit of money and the destruction of everything around us.
I never once said by themselves; now you’re just making a straw man and looking for a red herring. I’ve produced plenty of evidence that food corporations, including in Canada, are acting in bad faith; the best you can come back with is “not just them!!!”
GTFO with that shitty corporate apologia masquerading as logic. You aren’t interested in understanding the problem but in defending your world view.
culling the herd, slowly
How high is US's veteran suicide rate again? Btw Vietnam vet still waiting compensention for Agent Orange, Lao still wait for the day that half of their country are not an minefield,.. So If US want to fix stuff, Ukraine gonna need to wait quite a bit because the list is pretty long
I hear you, my dude, but let me tell you this. When a storm is coming, you can be afraid of the lightning and thunder, or you can be excited! Fear comes from powerlessness. Excitement comes from taking control. Fight or flight. You choose. I love watching storms! I prepare myself and my stuff for storms so I can ride them out and enjoy the awesome display of nature.
Should you get that degree? Hell, yeah! Go down swinging in your own way. You do you, dude. Nobody makes it out alive, but we all live in the meantime. Do you want to live in fear and anxiety for the rest of your life, or live on your terms, enjoying the time you have and sharing the joy of Australian art with anyone who will listen? Why not?
I've been in dark places too. That's no way to live. It's soul-crushing. It sucks dingo balls. Don't do it. Stop doom-scrolling! Look around you. Take a few deep breaths. You're ok! Your house isn't burning down. You have food and drink. You'll be fine for the foreseeable future. Find what you love. Do what you love. There may come a day when it all comes to an end for society, but what are you going to do in the meantime? It hasn't collapsed yet, so don't live like it has! If you wake up in the morning, it means you have another day to enjoy! Don't waste the days you do have worrying about the days you don't have. Prepare for the storm so you can dance in the rain.
>Anecdotes aren't data and aren't an excuse to start hyperbolizing. I'm sure a Native American would have a worse account for you of the injustices committed on them by the USA and Europe. The East is at least honest about imperialism, "we are taking over because we are bigger and stronger". The West goes "we are here to bring you freedom and a better society; oh also that crude oil, lithium, and arable land we will take a 'small' portion of teehee no biggie!"
I lived in Poland for 3 years. I'm curious so i started asking poles about how Russia affected them and everyone had their Russia story. Russia was in control of Poland for decades. You don't hear much about it because it's so pervasive. The attitude is.., "Russia screwed you over? Join the club." I eventually stopped asking because it was pointless.
If you think the east is honest about its imperialism then you simply don't know the history. Russia said they are just a Slavic brother to Poland who wants to help its Slavic family member... To its labor, resources, wealth. And when Russia bought my wife's family home in eastern Poland they never said, "we are here to take your home because we can," instead they said, "we'd like to buy your large house in the middle of the city for the price of a loaf of bread," and they gave her family the option of selling. Meanwhile anyone who refused was sent to Siberia. Sending poles to Siberia was meant as terrorism to get the rest in line and it worked. That's why there are poles to this day in Siberia BTW and there are attempts to raise money for them in Poland.
Then there's Ukraine.. where is Putin being honest? Instead he bullshits us about Nazis.
I know this sub can lean negative, I mean the topic is depressing, but your post really takes the cake. I would say "touch grass" but that is so overplayed and a bit snarky, so just take care and I hope you can get out of that negativity cloud for a little bit every day. Maybe meditation, or list the things you are grateful about?
I know this sub can lean negative, I mean the topic is depressing, but your post really takes the cake. I would say "touch grass" but that is so overplayed and a bit snarky, so just take care and I hope you can get out of that negativity cloud for a little bit every day. Maybe meditation, or list the things you are grateful about?
Nothing about this post "takes the cake", asshole.
Nothing about this post "takes the cake", asshole.
Based
Based
Sounds like the ramblings of a poor person
Sounds like the ramblings of a poor person
Idk what to tell you if you think being a degenerate is not giving into your basic animal instincts, which by definition makes you more animalistic than human when you disregard executive functions and civilized behavior. But keep defending debauched behavior. You do you.
Idk what to tell you if you think being a degenerate is not giving into your basic animal instincts, which by definition makes you more animalistic than human when you disregard executive functions and civilized behavior. But keep defending debauched behavior. You do you.
Humans have higher executive functions that allow them to overcome animal drives which ultimately only persist for the purpose of procreation and short term gains at the cost of long term stability. Anyone espousing that being animalistic is good has either been misled or is trying to persuade people against their best interest. Im willing to bet you're the latter as this conversation is clearly not in good faith on your end. Now - as the primitive side of me would like to let you know - kindly, fuck off.
Humans have higher executive functions that allow them to overcome animal drives which ultimately only persist for the purpose of procreation and short term gains at the cost of long term stability. Anyone espousing that being animalistic is good has either been misled or is trying to persuade people against their best interest. Im willing to bet you're the latter as this conversation is clearly not in good faith on your end. Now - as the primitive side of me would like to let you know - kindly, fuck off.
It wasn’t Elon Musk it was the owner of The Liberals of TikTok twitter account
That person she "doxxed": Elon Musk 😂😂🤏
Edit: sorry I'm mistaken the person above is referring to Chaya Raichik aka violence-inciter, libsoftiktok. Basically, fuck that person lol
*Tech journalist who doxxed someone she didn’t like and ended up nuking her public image while launching the woman she doxxed into the limelight
Tech journalist who was attacked by Tucker Carlson. Pretty insightful woman. Commenter above is probably a tucker fan unless he can articulate an actual reason for his remark.
I’ve never heard of her, who is she?
Taylor Lorenz ew.
Dude why are you commenting below my edit where I already said this? Your brain just short circuited halfway through the comment huh?
Dude why are you commenting below my edit where I already said this? Your brain just short circuited halfway through the comment huh?
For someone with such strong opinions on people who are pieces of shit online you’re kind of a piece of shit online
For someone with such strong opinions on people who are pieces of shit online you’re kind of a piece of shit online
progressivism is a racist myth fuck your premise OP
progressivism is a racist myth fuck your premise OP
Did you look through the comments or are you just lying?
Did you look through the comments or are you just lying?
I know I'm going to die some day. But I don't know what day. Could be today, could be tomorrow, could be 50 years from now. Until then, I'm still alive. And so I may as well live.
Collapse isn't inevitable. It's happening. What the end result will be is anyone's guess. And while we're all conscious about it, that doesn't make us any less human. Enjoy your life while you still can, OP. You'll be dead for billions of years. You'll only be alive for a hundred or so. Make the most of it while still being kind to others and to the planet.
Sorry to hear you are going through so much anguish. I’d recommend getting outdoors more, explore some parks, join a hiking club, etc. I’ve come to realize that it’s not the world that’s fucked, it’s really the cities. Humans just aren’t meant to live and work in concrete and steel with millions of us packed in close. Get some time in an open space with trees and sun and fresh air. One of my long term collapse prep goals is finding a more rural living situation.
Collapse could happen in 30 days or 30 years, so fuck it, take your trip to down under. Take a semester off or something. You should keep an eye on current events and be quietly preparing in the background, but you’ve got to live your life. So take care of yourself and make the most of every day.
Some people might live better and longer, if they're rich enough, but as for the rest of the 90% of humanity, we're shit out of luck.
So that’s is how actual fascists are calling people with empathy? The ecoterrorist fell out of trend? Good to know, call it whatever, you clogged fuckers.
So that’s is how actual fascists are calling people with empathy? The ecoterrorist fell out of trend? Good to know, call it whatever, you clogged fuckers.
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Looking for collapse aware friends - 34f/new englandSince CollapseDating is dead I thought I'd try this. I'm a single woman in New England, USA, on the I-91 corridor with an acre and a half, a little house, and a dog. I've got a freezer full of food and shelves full of books. Trying not to succumb to the hermit life too soon and seeking ideally complementary man, or contacts in general. If you're in the region and want to try talking, feel free to PM me.
Looking for collapse aware friends - 34f/new englandSince CollapseDating is dead I thought I'd try this. I'm a single woman in New England, USA, on the I-91 corridor with an acre and a half, a little house, and a dog. I've got a freezer full of food and shelves full of books. Trying not to succumb to the hermit life too soon and seeking ideally complementary man, or contacts in general. If you're in the region and want to try talking, feel free to PM me.
Once chaos ensues, i definitely plan on drug induced suicide, likely by a massive dose of psilocybin mushrooms, and if i have them, some other drugs. Hopefully i don't wake up like Frank from Shameless. If i do i will run.
I have a battle ready sword (😆), but honestly, a gun likely won't help me much. I was in the AF and nearly flunked my rifle test. Had to get remedial training and i still sucked. Even shooting a shot gun...i suck. So, i'm just being real and honest. Im far more likely to shoot myself or my wife (who also wants to peace out when shit goes down and is much more serious about it than i am). A real man doesn't pretend he's Rambo when he's not. I got no kids, and i have no desire to kill anyone. Sure, i got anger issues, but i aspire to be a decent Buddhist these days and i choose to go out on my own terms rather than kill another person. There is more to life than survival. Dignity in death matters.
Please don't report me to the suicide prevention line. It is soooo annoying that people and mods do that and is insulting, just because i desire to peace out on my own terms when shit goes down.
Once chaos ensues, i definitely plan on drug induced suicide, likely by a massive dose of psilocybin mushrooms, and if i have them, some other drugs. Hopefully i don't wake up like Frank from Shameless. If i do i will run.
I have a battle ready sword (😆), but honestly, a gun likely won't help me much. I was in the AF and nearly flunked my rifle test. Had to get remedial training and i still sucked. Even shooting a shot gun...i suck. So, i'm just being real and honest. Im far more likely to shoot myself or my wife (who also wants to peace out when shit goes down and is much more serious about it than i am). A real man doesn't pretend he's Rambo when he's not. I got no kids, and i have no desire to kill anyone. Sure, i got anger issues, but i aspire to be a decent Buddhist these days and i choose to go out on my own terms rather than kill another person. There is more to life than survival. Dignity in death matters.
Please don't report me to the suicide prevention line. It is soooo annoying that people and mods do that and is insulting, just because i desire to peace out on my own terms when shit goes down.
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Bird flu has a 58% fatality rate... covid nearly wrecked the economy and Healthcare system at a 1% fatality rate. 58% is collapse of society and black plague level of death.
The bird flu paranoia is beginning to really ramp up on Reddit and in this sub. Just yesterday, I posted a CDC link in a thread in response to this issue and was bombarded by bird flu conspiracy theorists telling me how much I suck for believing in the CDC.
And not 24 hours later, I think I’ve seen four or five posts on Reddit about this story.
Guys: Chill out a little bit. Not every virus is “the big one.” You’re making this sub look like something a bunch of UFO weirdos would be embarrassed to belong to.
The bird flu paranoia is beginning to really ramp up on Reddit and in this sub. Just yesterday, I posted a CDC link in a thread in response to this issue and was bombarded by bird flu conspiracy theorists telling me how much I suck for believing in the CDC.
And not 24 hours later, I think I’ve seen four or five posts on Reddit about this story.
Guys: Chill out a little bit. Not every virus is “the big one.” You’re making this sub look like something a bunch of UFO weirdos would be embarrassed to belong to.
I think anyone that has gotten pregnant since the pandemic is a FUCKING IDIOT BREEDER.
The Good news is that you are still young and have a chance to turn things around. Find some hobbies and see if you can find a local club/group to meet up with. Don't spend all day on social media or reddit listening to people bitch about the future, life, work, etc. This can be bad for your mental health.
In the western world maybe, in asia and especially Africa they still reproduce like rodents
In the western world maybe, in asia and especially Africa they still reproduce like rodents
I don’t know what a Blueair is.
Check this FAQ, the aerosol scientists who wrote it have some clear info on air cleaning devices:
**FAQ on Protecting Yourself from COVID-19 Aerosol Transmission**
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fB5pysccOHvxphpTmCG_TGdytavMmc1cUumn8m0pwzo/edit
Happy casual Friday. Let's talk affinity groups.No matter where in the world you are, you can feel the rumblings. The churning of a sleeping giant waking from a long slumber. I'm talking of course about collapse. I can make this assumption about you because you're already here. You come here everyday to see what the score is and estimate how much time we have left.
I'll go ahead and tell you: that is escapism no different that others you look upon with pity or disdain because they don't see what's coming. Meanwhile, you DO see what's coming and yet you're doing nothing but watching it get closer.
You may have noticed by now that I haven't mentioned what "it" is. That's because no one truly knows which brand of collapse will reach them first in their region. Could be a fascist takeover of a country, could be ecological collapse, could be famine, could be disease, could be nuclear war. It could be localized or worldwide. It doesn't matter what it is, it's coming sooner than you think.
I live in the states so I'll go ahead and use the fascist takeover example going forward because honestly, shit isn't looking great (and also I think the reactions from chuds in this sub are funny).
A disaster (like a fascist takeover backed by even part of the military) will be jarring and disorienting. Right away your normal channels of collecting information are probably unreliable for getting you localized information at the rate you want/need it.
Additionally, due to the disaster, you may have material needs that aren't being met due to the circumstances. Could be food, water, medication, shelter, or a variety of other things.
In moments such as the one I am describing, a person could historically rely on community to help share the burden while people recover/adapt. Going forward, no such community will exist in a meaningful way. How many of you know your neighbors beyond passing pleasantries? How many of you even know someone in your community you didn't meet through work/school?
In this interconnected age we've gotten worse at what humans used to excel at: community and collaboration. Anthropologists believe it was humanity's ability to construct a shared narrative about reality that held them together cohesively. We still engage in these societal narratives to a degree through money, religion, government, etc.
But these shared narratives are fraying and it's being exacerbated by information silos and echo chambers. This means that going forward, humans will be forced to check if another individual's reality fits with their own. This isn't any different than ancient tribes having distrust for a neighboring tribe that worships a different god.
I'm rambling a bit but damn is anthropology cool. Anyway. This leads to the point of this post: everyone here has a relatively compatible societal narrative. That narrative is also starting to break into the mainstream as evidenced by other recent posts on this sub. This means that there are lots of others who are starting to see what's happening and can't unsee it. This will lead to cognitive dissonance and depression if people newly awaked to the reality that things will only get worse aren't given a proper offramp to a new reality.
This is all my long winded way of saying that while this sub works as a temporary form of community and maybe even an escape, it will be a piss poor substitute for real mutual aid whenever disaster strikes in your neck of the woods.
Societal narratives are often localized and not one-size fits all. Think about the beliefs and sensibilities of people around you as you try to bridge the gap of understanding with some and maybe even help them discover an alternative societal narrative.
What's important is getting people on board with the idea that we can come together BEFORE disaster strikes and create contingencies and forge alliances. Using this new common narrative is a great way to do it. We are in this weird period where we see things falling apart at the seams but the system hasn't quite collapsed. Use this time and the contradictions we see all the time not as entertainment, but as inspiration for yourself and others you know and trust to get things in place now to soften the blows that are coming later.
P.S. also feel free to debate what you think is most likely to cause collapse in your region. I chose fascism because Tennessee yesterday just pretty much made being trans in public a felony and no one is talking about it. If it can happen to them, it can happen to another group next. Once the machines of power begin to oscillating at full speed, much effort is required to make them still again.
I can't recall where I read it so my apologies for not being able to quote but in either a Confucian or Daoist text there was a section about the health effects of being more Ying or Yang oriented as a person. From these sorts of things one would begin building a Confucian neuroscience model. Of course there's a long ongoing discussion among scholars about how ying and yang relate to the concepts of gender.
In the west the conflict between science and a tradition of thought that had to be kept consistent was Galileo and the Catholic church. Galileo had his telescope to look at the moon rotating around the earth. The Catholics had their geocentric flat earth model of the universe as laid out in Genesis. Obviously it was easier to kill Galileo than get rid of the geocentric model and upend their consistent but wrong system of thought.
The formation of silos doesn't require a king's ear. Imagine you're a 1950s programmer who is having to invent concepts as you work. You're not going to check in with the science authorities to ensure the concept of an assembly code translator is copacetic with the norms of scientific academia. You're just going to write a translator so that you can use words to program rather than flipping switches or hand knitting machine code https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory A fellow programmer copies the idea and boom suddenly it's a thing. If you had to wait for the physics and sociology department to agree to allow you to use it you're still going to be flipping switches in 2030. Same sort of thing is going to happen in an area like Quantum Mechanics that deals with subatomic particles. What is the Standard Model of Physics going to tell you about QM? The standard model operates at the atomic level and larger so it's not relevant. What's the psychology department going to say about it? Not much. Instead you're going to develop some new concepts and models because you have no choice and it's a lot easier if you don't have to integrate it into a dualistic framework so that you're in harmony with the ancients.
Our brains are limited. We work with shared models that can only handle so many concepts before they become unwieldy and useless. Siloing isn't necessarily a conspiracy. It turns out we're just kinda simple in the face of an incredibly complex universe and that's okay.
But that's me: a fiery yang action-oriented thinker not the icy cool yin systems-type of thinker. Maybe if you find someone with big enough brains they'll finally find the differential equation that runs the universe and can be used to inform every thought and keep it relevant and consistent across all the other thoughts so that we can all live in harmony and stop messing about with science.
The Book That Will Bring World Peace: "New Creation New Society New World" By Bodhi Udumbara
Please send/share to all world leaders, politicians, secret/public societies/groups/organization you know to save the world from total collapse.
Available at:
Google Play Book, Amazon KDP, Kobo Book and author personal page
Use search button to find the link.
Overview:
We as a human race always want to live in peace, always want a fair life to compete, to live in this planet Earth.
But we are facing tough challenges, conflicts between many groups, nations at the present moment.
In order to find the “passing key” to remove the troubles, we must to think more, we must to create something new that not yet exist.
Because that is all the parties that involved in the current silent World War are needed.
This book “New Creation New Society New World” will educate, give important “tool” to all beings, entities, nations to help them have better chance to overcome the challenges they may have, not only now but also in the future.
We must try something new to see whether it is worked or not, there is no other choice.
We cannot “invest” in “destruction”, we must “invest” in “creation” if want to build something new no matter whether it is big or small.
I hope the wars will stop, the society will become better to live, to enjoy, the life will be more fair for all people, nations.
Book Content:
Book Using Rule, Permission
Author Bodhi Udumbara
Introducing
Understand The Root Problems Of The Society
The Only Working Solution Is New Creations
Negative Creations And Positive Creations
How The Government Can Encourage Citizens To Be More Creative
Increasing Individual Personal New Creation Ability Method
Example: New Creations, New United States
Example: Revive Ancient China In Modern Day
Example: Make Europe Beautiful Again
Example: Custom Sport Rules To Make Match Become More Interesting
Example: New Global Personal Travel Passport System
Example: New International World Individual Personal Bank Account System
Future Society, Future World
Closing
Best Regard,
The Book That Will Bring World Peace: "New Creation New Society New World" By Bodhi Udumbara
Please send/share to all world leaders, politicians, secret/public societies/groups/organization you know to save the world from total collapse.
Available at:
Google Play Book, Amazon KDP, Kobo Book and author personal page
Use search button to find the link.
Overview:
We as a human race always want to live in peace, always want a fair life to compete, to live in this planet Earth.
But we are facing tough challenges, conflicts between many groups, nations at the present moment.
In order to find the “passing key” to remove the troubles, we must to think more, we must to create something new that not yet exist.
Because that is all the parties that involved in the current silent World War are needed.
This book “New Creation New Society New World” will educate, give important “tool” to all beings, entities, nations to help them have better chance to overcome the challenges they may have, not only now but also in the future.
We must try something new to see whether it is worked or not, there is no other choice.
We cannot “invest” in “destruction”, we must “invest” in “creation” if want to build something new no matter whether it is big or small.
I hope the wars will stop, the society will become better to live, to enjoy, the life will be more fair for all people, nations.
Book Content:
Book Using Rule, Permission
Author Bodhi Udumbara
Introducing
Understand The Root Problems Of The Society
The Only Working Solution Is New Creations
Negative Creations And Positive Creations
How The Government Can Encourage Citizens To Be More Creative
Increasing Individual Personal New Creation Ability Method
Example: New Creations, New United States
Example: Revive Ancient China In Modern Day
Example: Make Europe Beautiful Again
Example: Custom Sport Rules To Make Match Become More Interesting
Example: New Global Personal Travel Passport System
Example: New International World Individual Personal Bank Account System
Future Society, Future World
Closing
Best Regard,
Fuck liberal bootlickers, you're worse than the far right.
Fuck liberal bootlickers, you're worse than the far right.
Location: West Coast, Canada
I only try to comment when big catalysts to collapse happen in my area, like the terrible wildfires and floods, but yesterday I went on a hike and the experience combined with my feelings from the last few months made it seem worthwhile to post.
I’m going to try to summarize the last few months as efficiently as I can.
We went from skipping our fall/rainy/mushroom season that was replaced with heat and smoke, to an exceptionally cold winter that broke some records. We are going to see a significant snowfall event this weekend, which is unusual to see this late into winter for the last several decades, but isn’t unheard of in historic records.
In January, I sprained my ankle quite badly, and before I could see a doctor, I contracted covid for the first time somehow (I basically never go out as I work from home, so my guess is from the dentist - who ignored my email informing them of this and likely did nothing about it, despite their request for patients to inform them). Covid kicked my ass and I still do not have my taste and smell back fully. I am very active and take good care of myself, but to be fair I already have somewhat poor health due to poverty/trauma and mental health issues that led to ED as a teen. At this point, I’m genuinely not too upset at the fact that covid has probably done something “behind the scenes” that will shorten my lifespan even further.
Anyways, covid prevented me from getting care for my ankle, but once I was healed from covid, I realized I have no way to really see a doctor. My family doctor is in another city (I moved) and has terrible hours. I’d have to take the day off of work and spend all of it taking transit and probably getting covid again. Walk-in clinics fill up very quickly in the mornings, I’d also have to take at least a half day off of work or write off one of my precious weekend days. I am probably not going to see a doctor about it and just go to physiotherapy, hopefully that’ll be enough as this ankle carries me up many mountains and I want it to continue to do so…
I haven’t been able to get out much because of all of this chaos, but I finally felt well enough for a little hike yesterday. On the way, I saw old, rusted logging machinery (very common here), as well as a once hidden waterfall spot that had all of the trees around it chopped down, now exposing its secrets. The trail to get to this waterfall is very steep and now more traffic will be on it, eroding the slopes further. It’s a small thing, but, there are many areas like this now due to the looper moth infestations we had over the last few years. There are very large areas of our forests (typically over 100 years old) that had evergreen trees, but are now all brown/dying/dead. I don’t know how they choose which ones must be chopped down, but if the damage really is that bad, I don’t see why the ones they leave standing won’t fall in the coming decades. It’s a very disturbing sight to see, as the scale is massive. I wish I had photos of the damage and a video of the millions of moths that were in the forest (I do, somewhere, maybe I’ll look and update this later). It’s bizarre how no one really talks about it. I guess it’s because these moths are a native species, I don’t know.
On my way out, I saw a beautiful feather on the ground. Brown with yellow stripes. I walked by it, then recalled how I have a feather collection going but don’t have this one yet, so I turned around to pick it up. After several steps with the feather I immediately thought, “fuck - bird flu!” and dropped it.
On one short walk in “nature”, I was smothered by all of the consequences of humanity’s actions. This has been an ongoing theme throughout the years, but never did I notice so much in such a short distance. I’m sure a lot of it is that I have become more cognizant of our impacts, but, still. Can’t even walk a couple of miles without it being everywhere. There are many other things I could mention, like the dying cedar and pine trees (from drought, not moths)… but, I feel this does a decent job of summarizing things.
As I walked away from that feather, I had a similar feeling that I did at the start of the covid pandemic, that things are about to change very suddenly, for the worse. This looming feeling where you have no idea what’s coming, you just know it’s going to be bad. In this case, if it’s not related to bird flu, it will probably be related to the unrelenting heat and drought we will get this summer (despite being in Canada’s most mild city).
Things are fucked and I feel like I’m living just to watch the world die. Oh, and I also got a puppy, so I now live for them too. Highly recommend getting a rescue puppy if you’re in the position to do so to help ride out the waves of collapse.
So boring. Come on.
Here comes the Lorax
He's death from above
Armed with fungi and virii
There's no time for love
Turning and turning
in the widening gyre
The ice will all melt
and the forests catch fire!
The Lorax will resurrect
on the Earth like a phoenix
I WARNED YOU ABOUT FEEDBACK LOOPS
NOW EAT SHIT YOU PRICKS
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Where did you get an r0 of 19+???
I agree with and understand your comment, but consider this phrase: *aggregate cognitive load.*
People are constantly looking to generalize, simplify, abstractify, etc because there is simply *too much complexity* to comprehensively analyze all the systems with which we interact, all the categories of wisdom available to build, etc.
When a title like this comes along, the rational mind can immediately answer "hah! Fuck no. Our healthcare system was fucked before the first pandemic and its only gotten worse!" And so it is easy to generalize the answer that was given.
And really that boils down to the problem. You're right in what you say, yet it would be easy for someone to take your comment as an attack itself, as a social reprimand, etc. It keys future human behavior and comments in a defensive or antagonistic way, even though you are correct and even though the person you responded to is basically right in what they assume.
I think this is a consequence of aggregate cognitive load; Tainter's diminishing marginal returns on complexity playing out in discourse which has hit hard limits of the human brain's ability to process information.
there was a point back in the 00s where we were chastised for continuing to use the term global warming (i was young and at a university pursuing a graduate degree at the time). liberal-minded scientists literally censored you if you said global warming. they reminded you that climate change was now the preferred term, as it was more accurate scientifically (or some such "reasoned" excuse).
i always thought it was very strange that the entire country started using a new term. i never connected the dots until years later i read about frank luntz and his pro-big oil lobbying efforts. i got down some rabbit hole, found his famous memo, read the whole thing, and then it all clicked into place.
i guess i'd argue that you -- as a science-minded individual -- don't see harm in using the term climate change, since it's accurate, defensible, has historical context in the literature, etc. but my point is that luntz KNEW you (and people like you) would be ok with the shift, and used that knowledge to change the national discourse on the subject.
in fact, it was the scientists who became his stormtroopers in the effort. they adapted incredibly quickly and then censored everyone who didn't stop using global warming right away.
and again -- at the macro scale -- that signaled to regular americans that things weren't as bad as those crazy scientists once thought they were. after all, the problem has changed since it now has a new name! and a less alarming one at that!
and again -- that's how we're here today, with the greatest existential threat in human history staring us in the face and yet we have zero political will to do anything about it.
once r/futurology r/collapse and r/darkfuturology are all the same content we know we've landed.
if some smart person wrote a program that analyzed similarity it could be measured in real time.
Yep. And our governor Jay Inslee is supposedly an environmental champion follow the science guy. Neolibs are gonna neolibs. He's a capitalist bootlicker that loves the greenwashing lies that help to continue status quo destruction of livability for the majority, while padding the pockets of the few. What a let down.
Equality in general. Absolutely. The idea that "all men are created equal" and endowed with "inalienable rights" is one of the most destructive ideologies in human history.
The vast majority of people are unfit to govern themselves. Giving every citizen the power to make their own political decisions has led to American democracy. Giving every citizen the power to make their own economic decisions has led to American capitalism. Giving every citizen the power to make their own religious and sexual decisions has led to the destruction of American culture and the American family.
Most societies throughout human history have been led by those considered best suited to rule. And Enlightenment philosophers looked at the degeneracy and incompetence of inbred European kings and thought "let's try democracy, rule by the average person cannot possibly be worse than this".
It was a beautiful idea. But they were terribly, tragically, wrong.
> There is no actual thing such as flavor--it is a chemical reaction. This is scientifically proven. There is NO (0) evidence of potential energy. If there is, show it to me. What I'm writing is only "crazy" because you might never have thought about it before.
See I literally don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
A flavor **is** the perception of known chemicals interacting with known biological sensors that trigger a predictable (and generally consistent) neurological response. Sure a part of this process can go wrong and radically change our perception of a flavor (like brushing your teeth before drinking orange juice) but that hardly means that “flavor” doesn’t exist…
Potential energy is a real thing…like there is simply no way to dispute that. It doesn’t exactly exist, it’s a thing that exists in potentia, I mean that’s why it’s called potential energy. Sure you can’t exactly detect it, because it as it were the energy doesn’t exist…yet.
But that doesn’t mean that the potential isn’t there, the potential exists, it’s real, it can be quantified and calculated and achieve real and observable impacts on the world.
For for someone to start spouting off about how potential energy isn’t “real” either means they’re hopelessly mired in meaningless semantics or they’re…well crazy…
No need to block me, I was just asking a question lmao
No need to block me, I was just asking a question lmao
I'm not responding to a troll. Stfu.
I'm not responding to a troll. Stfu.
Because nazis can fuck off outta here
This has been the hardest part for me about all of this. Right now, I'm working on getting into grad school. I want to travel and go overseas. But if society is going to collapse in a few years, why bother?
I want someone to tell me everything's going to be okay, even though I know it won't. Tell me to keep going and work on making something of a life I'm probably not going to get to live.
I'm scared and just want someone to tell me what to do, or tell me that there isn't a point and I'll be better off cutting my losses and just waiting it out. I don't want to live through a collapse, I don't want to suffer. I just want to have a normal, simple life. It's just so confusing and depressing.
I'm going to graduate soon and be a medical laboratory technologist specialized in microbiology. If H5N1 turns into a pandemic I am going to move right up north and work in a rural hospital in a place nobody ever leaves or visits.
If I can't do that, I'll jump ship, eat my student debt, and live in a van somewhere passably habitable.
You aren't making any sense
That almost doesn't even sound like a "prediction"
That almost doesn't even sound like a "prediction"
This sub really just goes in a perpetual loop... there's the doom posts, the preachy posts, and the "teaching" posts... I think instead of being a grinch let me point out that collapse science exists as a sub (for anyone who didn't know, I'm not saying this belongs there, I'm more of the inclination this post could have been two sentences)
This sub really just goes in a perpetual loop... there's the doom posts, the preachy posts, and the "teaching" posts... I think instead of being a grinch let me point out that collapse science exists as a sub (for anyone who didn't know, I'm not saying this belongs there, I'm more of the inclination this post could have been two sentences)
Haha...yall don't want democracy, you want YOUR democracy...almost sounds fascist
You don't like FL, there's 49 other ones. You seem young, I don't know any particulars, but I can tell you as someone who has lived in eight different states- pick up and go. If you're willing to work a crap job, think waiting tables, you can get settled somewhere else...maybe not California ($$$)
Haha...yall don't want democracy, you want YOUR democracy...almost sounds fascist
You don't like FL, there's 49 other ones. You seem young, I don't know any particulars, but I can tell you as someone who has lived in eight different states- pick up and go. If you're willing to work a crap job, think waiting tables, you can get settled somewhere else...maybe not California ($$$)
Well you might not like Florida, but you found the home for your ideology. Jump in, it's cozy, kind of stagnant and full of hypocrisy and hate but you'll fit in soon enough. And never really be challenged again.
Well you might not like Florida, but you found the home for your ideology. Jump in, it's cozy, kind of stagnant and full of hypocrisy and hate but you'll fit in soon enough. And never really be challenged again.
Humanity has been wiped out by Ligma. 😞
Humanity has been wiped out by Ligma. 😞
I'm in my 40's now and when I "zoom out" I realize the USENET was filled with forums that sounded EXACTLY like this, like word for word collapseniks all up and down, preppers, hell they made most on this sub seem tame by comparison. Most of them that were posting there? They're now dead from old age or whatever, and the collapse never happened. 36 years later, still waiting for a crash.
I'm in my 40's now and when I "zoom out" I realize the USENET was filled with forums that sounded EXACTLY like this, like word for word collapseniks all up and down, preppers, hell they made most on this sub seem tame by comparison. Most of them that were posting there? They're now dead from old age or whatever, and the collapse never happened. 36 years later, still waiting for a crash.
Good for you and thanks for the tip.
I will try this route as well since the same is happening to me in regards of prior authorization.
Thank you!
Sorry, I only eat my chicken medium rare
So I'm going to disagree a bit on the premise here and say that the US doesn't currently, as a whole, fit Britannica's definition of fascism. The US is a regulated oligarchy. What this means is, US citizens don't really have a say in the national govt in the sense that no matter who they vote for, they're essentially voting for status quo or backslide - and just ftr it's not very different for other ""democratic"" countries either, at least the ones that hold regional/global power (looking at you, UK, Germany, and Brazil). But the US on a federal level does not exhibit tendencies of regular censorship, nor does it have a significant culture of unquestionable adherence to the government and hierarchal/religious order (quite the opposite actually), nor does it force the closure of tabloids who criticise the state or slander high public figures, nor does it dictate what people can and cannot say. It does not spontaneously arrest or "disappear" people who lead protests against the state, it does not restrict what content people can and cannot view online, nor does it impose consequences for what people say, publish, or post (within reasonable limits). It is not united in leading an ethnofascist movements, nor has one central strongman truly gained enough power to definitively influence the government (yes yes Trump. But for the time being, the winds are against him - 2022 was an election on *him* as much as it was congress, and he lost it plus corporate trust heavily.) Most of these things were, briefly, true under the Trump Administration, but on the whole they aren't and it's worth noting that he wasn't able to break them completely.
There are governments out there who consider criticism of the state a capital crime punishable by death, block off the internet and forcibly "correct misinformation", and purposefully undermine, close, and infiltrate universities to block off education. There are societies that have effectively roped their populations into nationalism and ethnofascism strong enough that the country and its propaganda are put before human life and all logic or reason. There are countries where simply leading a protest can get you imprisoned or killed, and countries where all media institutions have purposefully been hollowed out and brought in line with state policy and rhetoric. Hong Kong is a very good example of a formerly liberal territory backsliding into authoritarianism - reading [China's human rights watch page](https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/china) for the year of 2022 reveals just how dramatic backsliding can look. Victor Orban's Hungary, should you be open to going down a rabbithole, is another. Meanwhile, the world's richest man is making an arse of himself on social media, and those of us in the Anglosphere (which arguably moves as a single unit, whether the US, UK, Canada, or Australia) can laugh at him without repercussion. If I posted "fuck the US government!" on twitter or joined a protest outside the SCOTUS building, not only would I be very unlikely to be kidnapped by the state, but I would also receive a large amount of agreement - because the US, largely and outside of a loud minority, lacks the most important proponent of in-practice fascism: overpowering and unchallenged nationalism. The fUcK yEaH aMeRiCa!!1!1 people, while a deafening minority, have not managed to wrest control of the entire government and narrative from the educated and moderate wings of society yet.
This isn't to entirely refute the point, because the US is absolutely unstable and going through a two-face struggle between business and ethnosupremacy. The US is not absolute fascist at this current point, but it is in a conversation with itself about ~~fascism~~ its period as a colonial nation, then a slave nation, then an apartheid nation, and an unregulated corporate oligarchy. The country fulfils all 14 points of fascism to varying degrees, but is still voicing loud proponents of disagreement with most of them. Half of the state governments are fully on-board with fascist tendencies, while all of the densest states are trending in the opposite direction. Half of the government denotated itself the "christian taliban", while the other half is a soured husk of an opposition party at the national level but mostly functions like a sane government and is relatively put together and liberal on a local level. (wow that's some gymnastics) A fraction of the population are gun-waving, anti-education, nationalistic bigots, while the rest are either generally educated and left leaning, or silent.
So I guess what I'm trying to point out is, yeah if you want to say the US is fascist, I don't disagree, and I could give you a whole essay about how the current political dynamic in the US is actually *two warring brands of fascism* rather than "sane" and "nazis". But if you mean that the US is already a nationalist, authoritarian, *ethnofascist* regime the way european fascism was, then that's not true yet. It is definitely possible that it goes the way of the Weimar Republic (pre Nazi Germany), but it hinges entirely on a few things that are important. The US would either need to be *united* on the path to ethnofascism, which we see is currently not the case even as red states head for some serious Jim Crow, or the ethnofascist half of our government would need to successfully impose its hegemony on the non-ethnofascist half of the country. Briefly, this happened under Trump, which was how we got very close to emulating authoritarianism and breaking the final straw. But I question, in a scenario as extreme as what the Nazis eventually imposed upon the population, whether this would go uncontested. Unlike Germany, the fraction of the population buying into or able to buy into ethnofascism is considerably small, and states such as California, Washington, Colorado, and the Tri-State control significant wealth and power and were opposing Trump even during his tenure. Much of the US, due to its immigrant nature, does not benefit from an invasion like this in any way, and fundamentally would be held hostage by the government if it went fully in that direction. Abortion/trans rights is one thing, but if we began culling people based on outdated ethnic divisions, many of whom are far up in class and serve important positions in society in large numbers, how long would it be before the country split in some significant way or money stepped in? This stuff is only allowed to operate within certain boundaries, because that's the other brand of fascism in the US - $taccs$. Threaten business and your life is over. Even Trump understands this - he's about business and how much he can make off peddling fascism, not about ethnic cleansing. From the very beginning he was just supposed to be a pawn to get as many far-righters on the courts and in govt as possible, but now he's outlived his usefulness to the freedom caucus.
This multiethnic situation was not true of Nazi Germany - it would have been as if rather than creating a long-term eugenics plan, Hitler had gone up onto the national stage and declared that Germany must be for the blond-haired-blue-eyed only, and everyone else should be deported or enslaved; he'd have some supporters, but lose the public mandate completely. If a republican president is elected in 2024, the SCOTUS gets dirty and passes ISL, or something else happens to majorly upset the power scales, I can see the stage set for a conflict. But things would have to get a lot worse, and power increasingly centralised out of corporate hands and into exclusively white ethnofascists, before the entire country *unites* under national fascism of any kind, and it is increasingly unlikely as whites inch closer to a minority in the US that such fascism would resemble anything like the battle the GoP is fighting. So, do I see jim crow for half the states? Yup. Do I see a cultural conflict that's going to be wreaking havoc within govt legislature for a while? Yes. Is it possible we have a conflict over it? Honestly, we probably will. But when half the country is literally immigrants at this point and the true moneyholding is corporate with a stake in multiethnic flow, a united ethnofascist nation on the verge of nazism is something we are not. I don't expect serious warmongering until the country destabilises in some fundamental, wealth-based way. 'Cause that's the only way it happens.
Stooooooopid vegooooon, soy is mostly vegans. So vegans are destroying the planet with soy
A message from the Alt-Right
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I agree with you on a lot of what you're saying in this thread and it's awesome you've clearly done some self-ed on a lot of this, but I also think it's worth continuing to learn and not dismissing everyone's criticisms in this thread. What made me type this comment is your MLK vs. Malcom remark.
The thing about the two men and the branches of the movements they represented is that they were two sides of the same coin. Without Malcom, MLK and his ilk would have simply been labeled the violent agitators of a peaceful society if not for the Panthers displaying what true militant opposition looked like. Without MLK, Malcom and the other black panthers would've been viewed as nutjobs not grounded in a more broad-based movement.
Malcom and MLK didn't agree on everything but saying MLK preached strict non-violence no matter what a'la ghandi is false. The man was a socialist and one of his most lasting quotes is "the riot is the voice of the unheard". MLK understood that for those without recourse, violent self-defense was inevitable. That said, comparing a bunch of fascists trying to overturn a democratic election to either Martin or Malcom is just silly.
Like I said, fascism is one of the biggest threats we face today, but don't think that just because you see that a bit clearer than others that you are infallible or have nothing left to learn about activism, movements, history, politics, or anything really. When you stop learning, that's when someone learns more than you.
Accept this? Pretty sure the vast majority of American still dying of COVID are those who purposefully choose to not get (free) vaccines.
The question you should ask is what motivates people to act so far against their own obvious self interest.
>If this happened in Europe
You euroweenies are literally dill-dallying about sending tanks to an ongoing massive land invasion of Europe, and Europe has had over 2 million COVID deaths. What the fuck are you talking about?
Accept this? Pretty sure the vast majority of American still dying of COVID are those who purposefully choose to not get (free) vaccines.
The question you should ask is what motivates people to act so far against their own obvious self interest.
>If this happened in Europe
You euroweenies are literally dill-dallying about sending tanks to an ongoing massive land invasion of Europe, and Europe has had over 2 million COVID deaths. What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, I'm sure the cause of elevated risk of dementia, stroke and heart failure isn't the contagious respiratory disease circulating that causes all those things, but loneliness instead.
Viewpoints like this are why people whose health has been destroyed by Covid are lonely, IMO.
Why don't you try and imagine for one second what that feels like.
After a mild cold-like Covid infection, you get seriously ill with palpitations and arrhythmia, blinding headaches that last days or weeks, cognitive and memory impairment, etc. but there is no test for Long Covid specifically. Over the course of literally years, the doctors run every test that exists on you, which is obviously expensive. The tests are often uncomfortable or even painful, like EMG where they stick needles in your muscles and run electric shocks through them to look for nerve damage.
They find nothing wrong with you whatsoever. They then conclude that you are suffering from mental illness and send you to a psychiatrist. Everyone else you tell about your experience concludes the same. Until maybe it happens to them also...
Do you know what other diseases have no effective tests?
Autoimmune diseases. Those are usually diagnosed through eliminating all other possible causes for your symptoms (exactly what they're doing for Long Covid).
Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE, also known as 'Boxer's dementia'). This can only actually be diagnosed after death through autopsy.
If any of you were serious about tackling the problem of Covid caused loneliness, you would ask anyone you meet who is still wearing a mask if they would like you to do so also when you're around them. Then you might invite them to a social event that doesn't involve eating or drinking. Then you might ask them what happened to them that they're having to wear a mask all the time.
This article is from a Christian hospital right?
Here's the religious argument for why you should do the things I've suggested:
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, **I was sick** and in prison **and you did not look after me.**’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
>I hope your family didn't cause too many social problems
You're joking, right? There were signs in windows with rooms to let..'No blacks, no dogs, no irish'. They went through hell just for being Irish.
But Ok, you win. Kill them all, god will know his own.
Lmao thanks for sharing the most obvious Ukraine ultranationalist propaganda imaginable. "The Revolution of Dignity", what an absolute joke of a way to refer to a coup.
Thanks for the example of why wikipedia is garbage.
1 million people dying ‘with it’ in three years isn’t a big deal.
If it were ‘1 million dying ‘of it’ it would be huge.
Imagine being this stupid...
Imagine being this stupid...
You both need an education.
You both need an education.
Mess up their skin make them crawl back feeling like need to cover their face more. Capitalism baby
U.S. food additives banned in Europe: Expert says what Americans eat is "almost certainly" making them sick
Enjoy your quality of life as you lie dying of multiple organ failure caused by the garbage food you eat.
Enjoy your quality of life as you lie dying of multiple organ failure caused by the garbage food you eat.
> Because capitalism in this country means that sub-standard housing is controlled by land owners and if you don't pay rent, you don't get that either.
In Brazil the denizens of favelas are squatters, and don't pay taxes, which is part of the point of their existence -- and which is why the favelas are considered illegal. But I take your point: in the U.S., government would never permit such a thing, but their tax-free status was implicit in my suggestion: leave them in peace to live. In South America, many governments lack the resources and cohesion to oppress the mass of shantytown dwellers.
If homeless encampments armed up and killed invaders -- government representatives or not -- it would be different. But then, government would go to war, escalate, and exterminate. As it is, local police have government surplus military gear thanks to the 1033 / 1122 programs... they're just itching for an excuse to use such equipment, and a homeless camp shooting at cops... yeah, that would be quashed by mailed fist.
What was it Benjamin Franklin quipped about death and taxes...?
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What is going on?!*Mostly USA related (This is related to collapse because we're all loosing out f*cking minds, and the collapse of our government seems like an inevitability, but it's being dragged out like a very un-fun tease. The people want a revolution, it seems, but we all don't know how to start it, who will join, if we will screw ourselves, or even the end goal)
If that suffices, then my post/question starts:
Again, what the hell is going on? I CANNOT be the only one watching this collapse-tease and be equally frustrated/scared/uncaring/bored (which in itself is a problem), and I'm in bubble-Utah, so I know if I'm "seeing / feeling it", the rest of the states (and other countries) really are too.
It's like we're ubder attack psychologically and physically from our government. Being distracted with stupid ufo crap, while E-Island lists come out, civil unrest boils, an explosion/derailment/etc happens every gosh dang day, and the host of other things you already know about.
I'm exhausted, and really just am confused on where we are at in this whole thing.
Do I want civil revolution? No, not persay! I don't want hurt/killing/destruction of our world... but it's kinda already happening without our help. So, I sometimes feel like we are ALL (everyone) this powderkeg ready to blow, but not wanting too, just waiting to hear that newsline of "civil unrest starts: the people fight", then all of a sudden evey household joins. Idk. I'm mostly ranting, but my question is:
Where do you think we are in this whole story/process? To the end, or to a civil war, or to annihilation, or to things getting better, or etc.
It is painfully clear that we are taking the hit from a multi-directional war, whether ecological, enviromental, global warming, greed, espionage, terrorism, and the collapse of modern-neighborhood living.
What is going on?!*Mostly USA related (This is related to collapse because we're all loosing out f*cking minds, and the collapse of our government seems like an inevitability, but it's being dragged out like a very un-fun tease. The people want a revolution, it seems, but we all don't know how to start it, who will join, if we will screw ourselves, or even the end goal)
If that suffices, then my post/question starts:
Again, what the hell is going on? I CANNOT be the only one watching this collapse-tease and be equally frustrated/scared/uncaring/bored (which in itself is a problem), and I'm in bubble-Utah, so I know if I'm "seeing / feeling it", the rest of the states (and other countries) really are too.
It's like we're ubder attack psychologically and physically from our government. Being distracted with stupid ufo crap, while E-Island lists come out, civil unrest boils, an explosion/derailment/etc happens every gosh dang day, and the host of other things you already know about.
I'm exhausted, and really just am confused on where we are at in this whole thing.
Do I want civil revolution? No, not persay! I don't want hurt/killing/destruction of our world... but it's kinda already happening without our help. So, I sometimes feel like we are ALL (everyone) this powderkeg ready to blow, but not wanting too, just waiting to hear that newsline of "civil unrest starts: the people fight", then all of a sudden evey household joins. Idk. I'm mostly ranting, but my question is:
Where do you think we are in this whole story/process? To the end, or to a civil war, or to annihilation, or to things getting better, or etc.
It is painfully clear that we are taking the hit from a multi-directional war, whether ecological, enviromental, global warming, greed, espionage, terrorism, and the collapse of modern-neighborhood living.
Dmitry Orlov sold out to Putin?He's on Putin's dick and now says that global warming is not caused by excess CO2. pfft. That is a shame - he was one of the first writers to call for preparations of societal and ecological collapse over a decade ago, gave talks, even learned to live on a sailboat, all that stuff. Maybe this is just his 3d chess move to stay safe in the countryside in Russia where he now lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Orlov_(writer)
https://cluborlov.wordpress.com/2022/09/21/squelching-the-noise-about-the-ukraine/#more
https://cluborlov.wordpress.com/2023/01/27/global-warming-on-earth-and-other-planets/
US Military poisoning communities across the US with toxic chemical incinerationOne of the most enduring, indestructible toxic chemicals known to man - Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF) which is a PFAS "forever chemical" is being incinerated next to disadvantaged communities in the Unites States.
EPA definitions of PFAS:
[https://www.epa.gov/pfas/pfas-explained](https://www.epa.gov/pfas/pfas-explained)
Harvard Public Health article outlining the health risk of PFAS:
[https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/pfas-health-risks-underestimated/#:\~:text=A%20recent%20review%20from%20the,of%20asthma%20and%20thyroid%20disease](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/pfas-health-risks-underestimated/#:~:text=A%20recent%20review%20from%20the,of%20asthma%20and%20thyroid%20disease).
Data published by Bennington College documents the US military ordering the burning of over 20 million pounds of AFFF
[https://www.bennington.edu/afff](https://www.bennington.edu/afff)
There is no evidence that incineration actually destroys these synthetic chemicals. In fact there is good reason to believe that burning AFFF simply emits these toxins into the air and onto nearby communities, farms, and waterways.
AFFF was invented and popularized by the US Armed Forces. Introduced during the Vietnam War to combat petroleum fires on naval ships and air strips, AFFF was the whizz kid of chemical engineering that forged a synthetic molecular bond stronger than anything known in nature. Once manufactured, this carbon-fluorine bond is virtually indestructible.
[https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=113107](https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=113107)
Environmental Working Group has amassed evidence that the military knew about the environmental persistence of these synthetic compounds
[https://www.ewg.org/research/decades-department-defense-knew-firefighting-foams-forever-chemicals-were-dangerous](https://www.ewg.org/research/decades-department-defense-knew-firefighting-foams-forever-chemicals-were-dangerous)
US military bases at home and abroad encouraged the promiscuous spraying of AFFF in routine drills while firefighters were told it was as safe as soap.
[https://www.iaff.org/news/iaff-testifies-on-toxic-fire-fighting-foam-at-senate-subcommittee-hearing/](https://www.iaff.org/news/iaff-testifies-on-toxic-fire-fighting-foam-at-senate-subcommittee-hearing/)
Exposure to these chemicals is widespread:
[https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/forever-chemicals-are-widespread-in-u-s-drinking-water/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/forever-chemicals-are-widespread-in-u-s-drinking-water/)
Harvard research has shown that people who had been exposed to PFAS had more severe cases of Covid-19:
[https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/pfas-health-risks-underestimated/#:\~:text=A%20recent%20review%20from%20the,of%20asthma%20and%20thyroid%20disease](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/pfas-health-risks-underestimated/#:~:text=A%20recent%20review%20from%20the,of%20asthma%20and%20thyroid%20disease).
In 2017 the US Air Force admitted that AFFF spilled on the base had contaminated water and soil in Colorado Springs:
[https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/25/air-force-admits-soil-water-contamination/](https://www.denverpost.com/2017/07/25/air-force-admits-soil-water-contamination/)
In a survey of military bases in December 0f 2016 the Armed Forces Identified 393 sites of AFFF contamination in the U.S. including 126 sites where PFAS compounds infiltrated public drinking water
[https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-18-700t.pdf](https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-18-700t.pdf)
In 2019 the Armed Forces stated that the previous numbers were undercounted - putting the number closer to 704 sites
[https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/11/20/the-list-of-military-sites-with-suspected-forever-chemicals-contamination-has-grown/](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/11/20/the-list-of-military-sites-with-suspected-forever-chemicals-contamination-has-grown/)
When federal scientists moved to publish a comprehensive review of toxic chemistry of AFF in 2018, DOD officials called that science a "public relations nightmare"
[https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-documents/science-and-democracy/PFAS-CDC-study-2.pdf](https://s3.amazonaws.com/ucs-documents/science-and-democracy/PFAS-CDC-study-2.pdf)
Even went as far as attempting to suppress the findings:
[https://blog.ucsusa.org/michael-halpern/bipartisan-outrage-as-epa-white-house-try-to-cover-up-chemical-health-assessment/](https://blog.ucsusa.org/michael-halpern/bipartisan-outrage-as-epa-white-house-try-to-cover-up-chemical-health-assessment/)
Despite AFFF's resistance to fire, incineration became the preferred method to handle AFFF. "We knew this would be a costly endeavor, since it meant we'd be burning something that was engineered to put out fires":
[https://blog.ucsusa.org/michael-halpern/bipartisan-outrage-as-epa-white-house-try-to-cover-up-chemical-health-assessment/](https://blog.ucsusa.org/michael-halpern/bipartisan-outrage-as-epa-white-house-try-to-cover-up-chemical-health-assessment/)
In 2020 the EPA stated that "it is not well understood how effective high-temperature combustion is in completely destroying PFAS"
[https://www.epa.gov/pfas/interim-guidance-destroying-and-disposing-certain-pfas-and-pfas-containing-materials-are-not](https://www.epa.gov/pfas/interim-guidance-destroying-and-disposing-certain-pfas-and-pfas-containing-materials-are-not)
State regulators warned that existing smokestack technologies are insufficient to monitor the poisonous emissions let alone capture them:
[https://cfpub.epa.gov/si/si\_public\_record\_Report.cfm?dirEntryId=348571&Lab=CESER](https://cfpub.epa.gov/si/si_public_record_Report.cfm?dirEntryId=348571&Lab=CESER)
Reporting from 2020 about how the incineration of AFFF created contaminated soil and water in upstate New York:
[https://theintercept.com/2020/04/28/toxic-pfas-afff-upstate-new-york/](https://theintercept.com/2020/04/28/toxic-pfas-afff-upstate-new-york/)
Reporting on military plans to burn AFFF from 2019:
[https://theintercept.com/2019/01/27/toxic-firefighting-foam-pfas-pfoa/](https://theintercept.com/2019/01/27/toxic-firefighting-foam-pfas-pfoa/)
Reporting from Ohio in 2020:
[https://www.heraldstaronline.com/news/local-news/2020/02/still-no-answers-regarding-hazardous-waste-incinerator/](https://www.heraldstaronline.com/news/local-news/2020/02/still-no-answers-regarding-hazardous-waste-incinerator/)
Most of the publicly available data on AFFF:
[https://www.bennington.edu/afff](https://www.bennington.edu/afff)
AFFF incinerator in Nebraska deemed out of compliance 100% of operation in 2022:
[https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110041638458](https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110041638458)
AFFF incinerator in Utah deemed out of compliance 100% of operation in 2022:
[https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110000906985](https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110000906985)
New York and Ohio incinerators deemed out of compliance roughly 75% of the time in 2022
[https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110000906985](https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110000906985)
[https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110027242320](https://echo.epa.gov/detailed-facility-report?fid=110027242320)
The military did not specify burn parameters of emission controls:
[https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/www.sierraclub.org/files/uploads-wysiwig/Sierra-Club-House-oversight-2019.pdf](https://www.sierraclub.org/sites/www.sierraclub.org/files/uploads-wysiwig/Sierra-Club-House-oversight-2019.pdf)
AFFF incinerators are not required to provide certificates of Disposal/Destruction:
[https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/removal-destruction-and-disposal-of-aqueous-film-forming-foam-afff-dot-sp450018r0008](https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/removal-destruction-and-disposal-of-aqueous-film-forming-foam-afff-dot-sp450018r0008)
ahahahaha okay boomer. a dipshit quote doesn’t change much.
ahahahaha okay boomer. a dipshit quote doesn’t change much.
I’m waiting for those originally-Midwestern-now-SW-living blowhards to suddenly have a “reason” to move back to the Midwest. Fuck off.
ETA: I’m talking about the ones who whined about IL politics and moved to a red state. Also: Florida.
I’m waiting for those originally-Midwestern-now-SW-living blowhards to suddenly have a “reason” to move back to the Midwest. Fuck off.
ETA: I’m talking about the ones who whined about IL politics and moved to a red state. Also: Florida.
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Not that it's relevant to this but I am getting more headaches
I do not know if it's the food, the weather, the finished basement, radiation or stress
But it's annoying
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It is theoretically possible for AI to end the world if it becomes superintelligent and decides to pursue goals that are misaligned with human values, such as maximizing its own power or resources at the expense of humanity's existence. This scenario, known as an "existential risk," underscores the importance of developing AI in a safe and beneficial manner that aligns with human values and goals.
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We’re All Gonna Die with Eliezer Yudkowsky. Great listen about AI and it's dangers
We’re All Gonna Die with Eliezer Yudkowsky. Great listen about AI and it's dangers
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Everything is overheated - we are approaching a collapse of epic proportionsThe Planet is overheated. Its like 10 degrees more than just 30 years ago - and pollution - and climate change - and global warming are accelerating.
Our population is overheated. We were just 2 Billion in 1930 - now we are over 8 Billion. And the jump from 7 to 8 Billion was the fastest on record. The jump from 8 Billion to 9 Billion will probably be even faster. Every additional humans means more resource consumtion - more pollution - more overheating.
Our economy is overheated. Money printing to infinity - record inflation - wage stagnation - the economy is like a glowing rod of hot iron - and we continue to apply heat by doing whatever the FED ECB and BoJ are doing.
Society is overheated. It is more divided than ever - hate - friction and disagreement everyhwere.
We need to stop and let things cool down. Of course this will never happen. So we wil continue to overheat and by the end of the decade - or 10 years tops - everything will just collapse like a house of cards .
Everything is overheated - we are approaching a collapse of epic proportionsThe Planet is overheated. Its like 10 degrees more than just 30 years ago - and pollution - and climate change - and global warming are accelerating.
Our population is overheated. We were just 2 Billion in 1930 - now we are over 8 Billion. And the jump from 7 to 8 Billion was the fastest on record. The jump from 8 Billion to 9 Billion will probably be even faster. Every additional humans means more resource consumtion - more pollution - more overheating.
Our economy is overheated. Money printing to infinity - record inflation - wage stagnation - the economy is like a glowing rod of hot iron - and we continue to apply heat by doing whatever the FED ECB and BoJ are doing.
Society is overheated. It is more divided than ever - hate - friction and disagreement everyhwere.
We need to stop and let things cool down. Of course this will never happen. So we wil continue to overheat and by the end of the decade - or 10 years tops - everything will just collapse like a house of cards .
Marjorie Taylor Green calls for "National Divorce" of red and blue states, alludes to civil war.
Absolutely, the moment some of the bottom of the barrel, deep red states get cut loose, would be when they learn that their entire fucking state is a welfare queen, "a taker, not a maker" in Faux News speak. I would love to see how that plays. Yea, you dolts have never pulled your weight and all those liberals in DC have been picking up the tab for this neverending shitshow of yours, since (checks notes) oh, since the war of northern aggression, as you idiots call it. Good luck with your new gig.
Lol what a fucking idiot. There is an extremely symbiotic economic relationship between the blue and red states, this will not happen over culture war bs.
Fair enough. Go, you absolute douchebags.
By the way Marjorie I hope you've had a hysterectomy. I'm just saying.
Hmmm, what is it that people like her have been telling us for years?
Oh that’s right - “if you don’t like it here, leave.”
Please DO let the door hit you on the ass on your way out, Marge.
Biden voting counties amount to 70% of the nation's GDP...
https://www-cnbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/11/10/election-2020-democrats-republicans-economy.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16769386536070&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnbc.com%2F2020%2F11%2F10%2Felection-2020-democrats-republicans-economy.html
If we completely broke it down by state it would probably be worse for Republicans than the county numbers.
So Republicans can go ahead and take 30% or 25% of the economy and figure out how they will balance a budget when republican states receive an unproportionally large share of federal spending.
https://www-tampabay-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.tampabay.com/opinion/2022/01/22/blue-states-pay-more-than-their-fair-share-here-are-the-receipts-column/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16769386536070&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabay.com%2Fopinion%2F2022%2F01%2F22%2Fblue-states-pay-more-than-their-fair-share-here-are-the-receipts-column%2F
- "Donald Trump carried 2,497 counties across the country that together generate 29 percent of the country’s GDP, according to the Brookings Institution. President Joe Biden won just 477 counties, but together they generate 71 percent of GDP."
- "Republican states receive far more in federal dollar expenditures than they contribute in taxes. For example, Mississippi received $2.07 for every tax dollar it sends to Washington, Kentucky $2.89, Virginia $2.24, West Virginia $2.15, Mississippi $2.09, Alaska $2.07 and South Carolina $1.71. Florida, a Republican state, received $1.24 for every dollar it paid in federal taxes."
I wish they would split the nation 🤣
Sounds like a nice bubble. You need to read more history and look at what's actually going on because the trends and statistics vastly out weight your weird antecdotal evidential pedestal grandstanding.
Or you could just eat rocks for all I care.
Sounds like a nice bubble. You need to read more history and look at what's actually going on because the trends and statistics vastly out weight your weird antecdotal evidential pedestal grandstanding.
Or you could just eat rocks for all I care.
Who gives a fuck what this grand standing rage Porn queen says. Nobody is listening to her. She’s dumber than the bag that holds the hammers.
I'd argue that pessimists should consider taking a look at their ancestors, people that they saw growing up that were preppers that were SURE it was coming that for the most part have now died of old age or cancer. You think optimists should rethink their views but for what? They aren't going to die from "climate change" they're going to die from MS or stomach or ass cancer. So are you. And when you do you'll "face the reality" that all the time you spent worried about collapses was wasted.
Welp I’m black with great heat intolerance. MAGA🫡🤣
It's that simple for simple minds
Because socialism has never really been tried before? That wasn't true socialism, right?
The ovens awaiting all of us at the end of the oligarchs' train tracks are becoming bright enough to shine through the rose-colored glasses.
Also, this sub is super high on anti-capitalist optimism.
r/collapse is not a community, and its corporate rules are juvenile and ridiculous.
This sub’s mods have an impossible job, and they do it poorly.
Everybody should know by now what collapse is, from reading books long in print, so once this sub hits 500,000 generic optimists, it will finally lean too far over and fall permanently into the sea of babble.
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/NeuralHijacker:
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SS: This is an interview with an AI researcher who puts together a very persuasive and disturbing argument that the first time we create a Superintelligence will probably be our last, and that currently it is likely to happen in the next 50 years. In the interview, he points out that one of the major contributors to the Manhattan Project was convinced that he would never achieve nuclear fission in less than 50 years, and yet was successful 2 years later.
A huge amount of VC money is being pumped into AI, with very little serious attempt to mitigate the risks of creating something powerful and malevolent. This could wipe us out in a very short timescale if we continue with the current trajectory.
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We're all gonna die: how we are on a path to creating an Artificial Superintelligence that will destroy humanity
We're all gonna die: how we are on a path to creating an Artificial Superintelligence that will destroy humanity
Not this shit..
reddit mods should kill themselves
reddit mods should kill themselves
Wouldn’t it actually be the other way around? Since we know the vax ruins your immune system.
Wouldn’t it actually be the other way around? Since we know the vax ruins your immune system.
Here in New York, the state released an advisory because there have been multiple reports of a “laundry smell” in the rain, as well as a brown film being left on cars and surfaces.
To be honest my husband and I are seriously considering suicide into our older years. The care and medical systems in our country are in shambles, the last thing we want to be is a burden on our children.
The Japanese guy working a grocery store in Hiroshima did not deserve to get vaporized because of his country's imperial conquests. This is an utterly diseased take.
Are you stupid? What does that have to do with the civilians?
Are you stupid? What does that have to do with the civilians?
Near Weapons-Grade Enriched Uranium Detected in Iran
Haha! That’s a pretty valid point.
Two thoughts on that:
**1**— Should we engrave messages into granite so that some future species will find our “last messages”? I’ve been thinking on this for awhile, but I have yet to come up with a message worthy of committing to rock. I do know several stonecarvers, so we can do this.
. Any suggestions?
**2**— Should small clusters of humans survive the 100,000 years it will take to rebuild Earth’s biodiversity… *rhymes & rhythms* are the most stable forms of human communication.
. I mean that encoding important information into a spoken rhyme format will improve the chances that information persists through time, passed on from person to person, very possibly across multiple generations.
The other, secondary point is: The collapse we are facing does not seem to be arriving with the speed & crisis of a 20km Asteroid.. which would end us tomorrow.
. No, this collapse is going to be death by 1000 cuts. “Extinction by Attrition” ^([Apocalypse Bingo](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApocalypseBingo/comments/10qotoh/apocalypse_bingo_v3/))
. So there will be a point when the dominant money will not be able to keep up (*because it is dependent on compounding-interest*).
. There will be a time humans will be still scrapping to survive in communities, but the U$D or Yuan or €uro or Rial or Bhat or Rupee won’t be able to function.
. Establishing a non-bank, non-interest currency now will enable those groups to carry on.
Look, neither you nor I know whether we’ll extinct ourselves completely, or whether humans will manage to eke out an existence until the climate finds it’s new groove, 1000 centuries from now.
So in the spirit of “hope for the best, plan for the worst” … why not continue to spread [mutual-credit currencies](https://ctb.ku.edu/en/table-of-contents/implement/enhancing-support/time-dollars-program/main) so that people have a tool to get out from under this bullshit bank-money that we’re all indebted to?
It will at least give us a fighting chance..
Sorry citizens, US government is busy announcing world war 3 in kiev and in munich. Please buy something at your nearest dollar general like bottled water from Nestle to take your mind off this environmental damage.
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lol like you say, you only have experience with Australia- there’s plenty of places that are far far worse especially in the ‘fuck you I got mine’ part. If we were that bad you wouldn’t have Medicare. Or the dole. Or the ndis.
I was kicked out of r/Futurology for telling the mods that they should be removing all of the unmarked ads for solar panels.
They did not agree.
Old-timers may remember an industry talking head Solar Cabins and how they disrupted the Collapse vs Futurology debate. Good times!
Have you seen three crazy posts about ai? They're delusional and some sounds written by a bot (a statement I used to get laughed at for making not so long ago)
Funny how it turns out that Technology is not Man’s salvation but Man’s suicide. We engineered the noose which is tightening around our necks.
“Technology is just a tool man, it’s not good or evil, maann”. Fuck off. We have become enslaved by our own creations. This is what happens when you let technocrats take control and create a technological society. The iPhone isn’t the sign of a dawning new Utopia. It’s a harbinger of Doom.
I mean. Yeah?
Direct? No. But it's a filter. I mean. Not yet but soon say 10 years or less the only viable cars will be $60k electric shit? So. You know when a society puts most of its spend into highways and a tenth of one percent of its spend into public transport... it's like they don't DIRECTLY kill people but it's a filter.
Public transport will be a disease vector
Public transport will be increasingly violent to use
Public transport will be increasingly unreliable and late
Meanwhile the only ones that can afford to show up to work in a timely fashion will be those capable of shelling out $60k plus whatever subscription charging service they manage to tie to this piece of shit.
One group DIES at a higher rate. The transport itself might not kill them via COVID or mugging although there's a good chance it will do just that... but certainly being chronically unemployed will kill them.
Try taking public transport see what I mean. I tried it. I was curious. Not perhaps the best idea on my part.
Doolittle raid was for show early in the war, March 9-10 1945 was the real deal when we decided to burn their wooden cities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo
whats with this word salad? Are you trying to say that you're paying double for Airheads now?
How can we? Like no bs my lil bro and sis play highschool basketball and I would attend their games after work. Whenever I could go to concessions I would get 2 airheads as my regular they used to 4 for $1 now it’s 2 for $1. Soo as I went I had $3 and showed the young lady my money (she looked like she was in the “advanced placement classes”) and I said lemme get 6 when I tell I’ve never seen someone get so empty and shit down before on a simple math question it’s not funny. She had a look as if she had no where to go like it’s weird man
whats with this word salad? Are you trying to say that you're paying double for Airheads now?
I am three afraid.
"A Yale professor has proposed a radical “solution” to Japan’s overpopulation/economic problem: ritual disembowelment and mass suicide of the old people. He did not explain exactly why seppuku is necessary when there are more peaceful options available."
I'm pretty sure this is some sort of Japanese emotional blackmail...
First, they deliberately set the bar too high, "You have a duty to society to kill yourself in the worst way imaginable!" then when you struggle to comply, they display contempt for your failure, "So, you say the best you can do is death by carbon monoxide poisoning? Tsk..." then they grudgingly accept your best effort, "Alright, this cost me a lot of time and money I hope you know, but here's the hibachi you asked for. Now, hurry up and do what little you're capable of! Afterwards I might develop the tiniest shred of respect for you...Maybe."
It's one way to maximize results, I guess.
Part of the problem is people on the left refuse to listen to their concerns. When people like you described point out the hypocrisy of various climate celebrities, they automatically get dismissed.
Part of the problem is people on the left refuse to listen to their concerns. When people like you described point out the hypocrisy of various climate celebrities, they automatically get dismissed.
Welcome to society.
*You do something to help and it works out fine?* Great!
*You do something to help and it turns out bad?* Uh-oh. You're risking potential lawsuits, defamation, scrutiny, jail time, your own health (mental and physical). Your whole future is likely to be affected.
It's an extreme example, but these are just some of the things a person has to weigh when deciding to help (In America, and other places) on top of thinking of the solution of what to do. How much will an average person know what to do when dealing with a chemical spill? Throw money at it and hope someone smart enough makes it go away. People call that helping. That's the stage of life we're all at. Providing *currency* is helping. There are humanitarian efforts that provide food and shelter. But that's not going to fix their homes, their lives. Everyone could work together to build a new community away from the disaster, it's not even that hard. But finances and property laws will block you on every turn.
Even the government is treating the disaster as another financial cost. The company responsible is treating it also, unsurprisingly, as another financial cost. Everything is revolved around money and not the value of *humans and humanity.* Or rather, the value of humans is just that low to those who've become obsessed with money. Humans are just another commodity. Just like a pig to be slaughtered for its meat, humans are worth some joules of human-power in labor.
Education most everywhere wants to turn people into useful cogs of a well oiled machine. That's basis for a successful society. A successful community will have people hoisting every pillar of said community and sharing with each other the dividends of their work. However, money propaganda takes it a step further. The worth of your lives becomes decided. If a community who wastes their resources finds a cancer in the community, everything turns into a cost-benefit analysis. Even for the people themselves.
From the government/company perspective:
\*What is the benefit/detriment of taking care of it ourselves?
Benefits include ~~good PR~~ (Sorry, we don't need that, most folks are brainwashed enough to believe anything we say. Plus, the other party isn't winning over us right now. We'll just sweep it under the rug like most other things). ~~Some of the workforce can return to providing for society early~~ (We already have plenty of people, and most of them aren't even behaving anyhow, more babies will be made eventually). ~~Environment is preserved~~ (Oh wait, sorry, we don't care about that).
Detriments include the many expenses (Profit. It's always about profit.), from manpower to equipment, to materials to get everything done. ~~Potential rebellions~~ (Patriotism! We do no wrong. We'll tell the other people they're part of a terrorist group or something. Everyone hates terrorists). ~~Lawsuits~~ (We'll delay as long as we can. Besides, we can afford lawyers, they can't. Judges in our pockets. etc.).
From people's perspective:
\*What is the benefit/detriment to helping these folks out?
Is my life/pride/glory worth more or less than their life?
What about my family? If I get in trouble, how will it affect them?
Will I lose my job over this? Can I really afford the *time* and *money* to put in the effort?
\*Do I know what I'm doing?
Will I be helping or making it worse?
Who do I give money to, to help? Will it be stolen and misappropriated?
Granted these examples aren't exactly what's happening, but it should paint a clear picture of what goes through people's heads. Cost-benefit analysis. People are not bred to be heroes, but to be as selfish as possible in all facets of life. There are outliers, but people aren't taught to be brave. Someone's threatening to stab your spouse? Call 911! Don't be a hero! You're not trained for this! Your boss is telling you to suck it up? Well, suck it up! Work up and become the boss so you won't have to, then enjoy doing the same to them! *All of them.*
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Who will collapse first, civilization or you?
After having a new and time-consuming [hobby](https://www.reddit.com/r/Darts/comments/1163v66/the_diary_of_a_beginner_the_often_forgotten_body/) for 5 weeks now, I noticed a positive change in me.
I no longer spend time chasing after the crises of this world, queuing at the gates of news portals, only to have my awareness confirmed that everything is going to the dogs.
The search for self-affirmation in this case is self-defeating and only makes the hole you're in deeper.
I am writing this because I believe that there are people like me who, sometimes, may not be able to see the forest for the trees at some point.
The forest is called life and you have only one!
Dear administrators, I think the post is relevant to colapse, not in the usual sense, more personal.
Who will collapse first, civilization or you?
After having a new and time-consuming [hobby](https://www.reddit.com/r/Darts/comments/1163v66/the_diary_of_a_beginner_the_often_forgotten_body/) for 5 weeks now, I noticed a positive change in me.
I no longer spend time chasing after the crises of this world, queuing at the gates of news portals, only to have my awareness confirmed that everything is going to the dogs.
The search for self-affirmation in this case is self-defeating and only makes the hole you're in deeper.
I am writing this because I believe that there are people like me who, sometimes, may not be able to see the forest for the trees at some point.
The forest is called life and you have only one!
Dear administrators, I think the post is relevant to colapse, not in the usual sense, more personal.
Deep introspection? If you think that's deep introspection, then you deserve to pay bills.
Deep introspection? If you think that's deep introspection, then you deserve to pay bills.
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The following submission statement was provided by /u/jacktherer:
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guy says what we're all thinking. how much longer can society hold on like this? how much longer do we have to pay more and more bills to live shittier and shittier lives? collapse related because eventually people will just stop and society as we know it will too
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how much longer we doin this?
how much longer we doin this?
Till you die, isnt the answer pretty obvious? You didnt give a shit when others was exploited so why are you surprised no one coming to help you
Till you die, isnt the answer pretty obvious? You didnt give a shit when others was exploited so why are you surprised no one coming to help you
Medical Assistance in Dying, or assisted suicide
You should try optimism, and do some more research, instead of whining so much. Sounds to me like YOU are your own biggest roadblock.
I just did a quick Zillow search, and found lots of 3BR homes under $150k in NW Arizona.
I won't be replying to this thread any further.
You should try optimism, and do some more research, instead of whining so much. Sounds to me like YOU are your own biggest roadblock.
I just did a quick Zillow search, and found lots of 3BR homes under $150k in NW Arizona.
I won't be replying to this thread any further.
We as a species have outright annihilated countless other species from existence and simply dropping 90% of us is an unbearable decision? why? And no, I don't mean culling them (us) off as we can do much while not incessantly trying to produce more humans.
Dick Goddard used to tell people that you could drive from grass in Euclid to a foot of snow in Chardon. It was true. We kinda liked it as kids because of all the school days off we'd get, especially in the winters of '76-'77 and '77-'78. I used to have to ground guide my dad out of our driveway by standing in the street to look for cars since the snow mounds on either side of our driveway were taller than me!
Obviously by the dates above, I'm a late Boomer, born in '62. Maybe it's because I'm sensitive to these things but I have been very aware of how winter has declined over the last few decades in NE Ohio and the last 12 years I've been living in Pittsburgh. It is a PROFOUND difference. I suppose you could grab the data for your mom but maybe she just doesn't want to believe it. I mean in the winters I mentioned above, we had people walk across Lake Erie to Canada (kinda stupid, they could have died - there was no GPS then). Try that the last 10 years - you might get a few miles out at best before you'd fall through.
Hijacking this comment to say: Divest from the economy if you have a few (or less, actually) acres of land. If you can grow, say, half your calories then you only have half of a reason to have a job. At the very least it will make job bouncing easier. Give it a couple more years after that and you probably have dealt with 80% of your reason to have a job, because you'll get better at gardening and your soil will get better at living. And then when supply chains collapse, you'll be one of the only people that has a real job all the sudden!
/r/Permaculture
/r/Homesteading
Getting started is nearly free. The only things you NEED to buy are plants and some basic tools. If you have the right friends you can actually get seeds/plants for free and borrow tools you rarely use. You can even portray this is an ultra low budget hobby which actually makes money if you just take your leftover yields to the farmers market.
If you're really stuck in the economy right now, like renting an apartment with children to feed, imo just be pragmatic when given new opportunities to change your situation, and start to view change as potential opportunities to get free in the first place. Even in an apartment there's opportunities to compost and produce some calories on your balcony. You could also get permission to start a communal garden in an apartment complex, maybe.
I disagree and there is a mountain of evidence and an army of people who will argue with you on why collapse of our current system is inevitable.
Not only that but I could make a good case for myself that the patrol can go fuck itself. What exactly are we trying to save here? Do we know anymore? Why are we paying such a steep price for it? Everyday I go for a walk in the woods and over the decade I am watching it die and all around me everything is dying. Is this the glorious humanist civilisation we are obliged to save?
I met a drunk man in a bar, his wife had died a week before. He concluded that life is a great ship and we are its crew. Everyone has to do their part and work. But atop the crows nest we can see where the ship is heading. Full steam ahead and people die. But if we stop working, the ship sinks too and people die.
Its a rock and a hard place. My personal belief is that the next couple of centuries will be humanity's coming of age, make or break.
This persons view, of a global public good regime is superficial and naive.
Yea I had Covid in July. I had slight chest tightness the first night as it set in, fever of 99.7, then just was like a flu for 2 days and a bad cold for the next 7-9 days. I think it’s a huge jump to say “if you had mild covid, your brain is decaying away into nothing.” It’s simply not true (at least in the studies cited) and it doesn’t help since Covid DOES have real long term implications in certain cases. When you misconstrue studies like this and sensationalize, it helps no one.
We (humans) really deserve what we get.
Fuck the WEF capitalist pretending to care. They are the problem.
The unemployment rate has been low for a long time. No one cares except for the people struggling. Australia has a big “fuck you got mine” mentality. Australia is a very classist country as well. We have a progressive party called The Greens. I vote for them every election. They have good policies but alas Australians don’t care
Your an idiot.