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Nothing beats a deep, intellectual conversation over coffee. Revolutions have started that way.
Without the conversation you'll find me on my phone too - just skip the cafe in that case imo.
People like you are gravediggers of human civilization.
Okay so you are either a troll or so have little ecological knowledge that I don’t feel like taking the time to explain, sorry.
We are causing the sixth mass extinction hence we are not only harming us, did you not read my comment?
When you are protesting pension reform but still take your breaks your union fought for.
No. White European western civilization is the pain.
Most of humanity lived in balance and harmony with the planet for 10's of thousands of years, but two thousand years of unchecked white European conquest has put the planet on the edge of extinction.
It is a warrior culture cult that leans on a "might makes right" philosophy as it's only true pillar and it is destroying everything it comes into contact with as that is all it is capable of doing trying to force infinte growth into a finite system.
No one is saying that you are going to die young. With or without collapse we could all die young.
It's the collapse of industrial society, our unsustainable way of life.
Will people die because of e.g. climate change related disasters? They already are and will, and it will get worse.
Does collapse mean human extinction? No, but it could. It does mean a decrease in human population.
But your comments are screaming into a void, this sub won't take it seriously as it is literally about collapse.
Again, just stop viewing this sub, don't watch the news, don't pay attention to the economy, pretend the 6th mass extinction isn't happening, fossil fuels are forever and don't cause any environmental damage, we can feed 8 billion without energy dense oil etc., never mind the increasing natural disasters and pestilence... Be an ostrich, and I mean it -- if it comforts you go ahead, collapse doesn't change it's mind because 1 person doesn't like the trajectory that we are on. Guess who also doesn't like it? All the species that we are driving to extinction.
Sorry but it's futile coming to a place like this and begging for mercy. We're just paying attention to what's going on here and it obviously isn't pretty. Just "don't look up," distract yourself.
Just try to enjoy your life. Paying attention to this stuff obviously is interfering with that. Yeah it's one of those things where you can't unsee it, but... If it affects you this much, continuing to be upset over it does no good.
I picture the guy on the left thinking "Don't look at the fire, just listen to her and act like you really care. Don't look at the fire."
they will result in the total collapse of late capitalist civilization though, and human extinction, assuming none of our other problems beat them to the punch. two biggest concerns have to be the end of the aerosol masking effect when industry collapses, causing a rapid amount of global warming in 5 days - 6 weeks. then there's the 450 nuclear reactors currently operating that'll cease to be maintained, definitely won't be decommissioned properly (takes decades), and will all meltdown as the temperatures rise. when they all meltdown, that's *goodbye ozone layer*.
there is no "much further out," even if it wasn't for the above problems, we are in the middle of the sixth mass extinction and it can't be stopped. humans were not around for any of the previous five, and we will not survive this one. we're at the top of the food chain and dependent on every level in the chain beneath us, and those levels are dying off faster than we can catalog them. in mass extinctions, the most complex organisms die first and only the simplest survive. it's a wonder we've made it this far.
They sure like their politics, eh whatever we are in one league anyway. Even if big brother is a bit demented at times family is family
The collected pro-tobacco essays of Mike Pence will be required reading for graduation.
"...we can reach a state where people won't care because they don't know that it's happening."
They won't care because of ignorance it's true, but well before that they may also not care because of delusion and disbelief.
The breakdown of shared reality and systematic undermining of facts has been gaining steam rapidly since at least 2016. At some point, most likely very soon if it hasn't happened already, it will become largely impossible to distinguish reality from imagination, speculation, lies, rumors, etc.
I think this process was set in motion a decade or more prior, mostly due to the unregulated rise of social media, the widespread adoption of smartphones, and faster internet connections allowing for extensive use of visual media. Disinformation has thrived as a consequence, but also...
I'm not sure how to express this, so I'll indulge in throwing words at the wall and see what sticks:
Curated realities, information silos, atomization of worldviews, technologically driven solipsism, schizotypal personality becoming the norm?
Something like that.
At any rate, IMO deep fakes will be the killing blow for addressing the problem of climate change well before communications blackout. Once people can 'see' video footage that supports whatever they would like to believe, then they can point to that as 'proof' and disbelieve what anyone else says. They may even come to disbelieve their own lived experience and their own eyes in favor of a simulated reality that makes them happier. (I'm seeing a lot of 'early adopters' of this attitude lately. How about you?)
For individuals that are more social, I think they will actually become even more delusional. Psychological studies have found repeatedly that many people's perception of reality is so strongly mediated by peer pressure that their brain scans show activation in portions of the brain devoted to perception rather than emotion when they give in to the group's mistaken views.
So, as people continue to self-segregate into ideologically bonded tribes, their shared picture of 'reality' will only become more and more convincing, no matter what actually happens. Mass psychosis seems imminent...Hm, you know what this reminds me of? That story about the Tower of Babel. It also makes me think about the MK-Ultra experiments with mild altering substances. Maybe having 'the sum total of all human knowledge' at your fingertips is just as confusing and dangerous, lol.
We are living in a different world. It almost seems like the 90s never existed....
We need to bring back the 90's.....
On your ugly face!
Should have tightened their boot straps.
And why do they call it global warming if it's actually colder outside!
This climate change nonsense is bullshit!
AmiRiGht?!?!
> Ah, Mississippi, a stronghold of anti-science and theocratic bootlickers.
Why would He do this?
Like, what’s the justification for Him evoking ever-increasing natural disasters?
Fuck off
What does that have anything to do with a deadly tornado outbreak? How does politics have any connection to the weather? Fucking idiot. Have some compassion.
Ah, Mississippi, a stronghold of anti-science and theocratic bootlickers. I wonder how many of them believe Brandon is to blame. Imagine your final thoughts are cursing the democrats as you're sucked up out of your trailer.
These guys are use to nazis, That little trash fire means nothing to my brothers.
Vive Là France rentrez chez vous insurgé
This is collapse related because at least 23 people were killed, dozens injured and four missing after powerful storms and at least one tornado pummeled Mississippi on Friday night, ripping roofs off homes, nearly leveling some neighborhoods and knocking out power for thousands, officials said Saturday morning.
In ravaged Rolling Fork, the tornado damaged homes and buildings, gutted trees and tore down power lines in the area, Showah told CNN. The tornado was moving at 50 mph when it was located over the town just after 8 p.m. CT, the National Weather Service said.
There have been at least 11 tornado reports across Mississippi and Alabama over the last 24 hours, according to the Storm Prediction Center. These reports include the storm that impacted Rolling Fork, Silver City and Winona in Mississippi.
The storms knocked out power for more than 83,000 homes and businesses across Alabama, Mississippi and Tennessee as of 8:50 a.m. ET, with more than 47,000 outages reported in Tennessee alone, according to tracking site PowerOutage.us.
You are the master of your inner self and your mental health. No one else is going to care about you. You need to take control of your life and stop complaining.
Classic
If it means keeping the pension age where its at, then by all means.
People should also be talking about the possibility that those pension funds do not exist, as in bankrupt.
I'm sorry. I need a baguette in any video to be considered "Francois". Lol. (Irony and humour)
We are a pivotal moment right now.... It is scary when you see how the media is portraying the protests in France. (These people are fighting for what is right.)
,....and how the media is portraying the protests here...(cop city and protests to come)...
Pivotal time, for sure but I agree, this is not a sign of collapse but rather of a country ruled by the rich
Minnesota had tax rebates for filmmakers? That's cool.
lol
You need to immigrate. Seriously.
.r 1
Ah, Mississippi, a stronghold of anti-science and theocratic bootlickers. I wonder how many of them believe Brandon is to blame. Imagine your final thoughts are cursing the democrats as you're sucked up out of your trailer.
I would leave this sub, all of your comments sound like it's taking a toll on your mental health. It's okay for you to ignore all of this if it's hurting your well-being. Collapse isn't going to go away, but you can suspend it in mind. Take care of yourself.
Eventually it's possible to succumb to acceptance. Most people go through denial, then reality slips in a teeny tiny amount and they start smoking techno-hopium, then the bigger picture sets in and there may be despair and grief... The last step is acceptance, and you can find a bit of solace in that if you just take deep breaths.
It's okay to be scared, but if it is seriously damaging your well-being, just quit peeking in this sub, do not watch the news etc. Might have to lie to yourself, but if it makes you happy it makes you happy.
Hah, this is such a thinly veiled way of saying they want to teach that climate change is not real.
By the time these kids are in their mid teens it won't be possible to ignore it and the other "side" will just move the goal posts.
Here's how it'll go
Climate change isn't happening.
And if it is, it isn't that bad.
And if it was, it isn't a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean for it to happen.
And if I did, fuck you, hurr durrr I'm gonna chug some horse pills, rectally insert a UV dildo and be outsmarted by what's left of the climate ravaged potato crop.
Nuclear Assault - Critical Mass
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wntm7QVXQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wntm7QVXQ)
This song is from 1989. This band was able to foresee all this 34 years ago. The lyrics were really prophetic for their age.
​
The bio-sphere, the place we live
It seems like we don't give a damn
Other species flushed down the tubes
We need another race to rape
The way we live we will destroy
Every other living thing
'Til none are left except our race
And then we will destroy ourselves
​
Another oil spill
Atomic waste displaced
Another forest dies
​
Bring on the acid rain
Slightly insane, the type of greed
That makes a world unfit for life
Toxic wastes destroy the seas
While poison gas pollutes the air
A waste of life, while no one cares
The world becomes a giant tomb
Critical mass will be achieved
And ruins will be all that's left
​
Another oil spill
Atomic waste displaced
Another forest dies
​
A Hell on Earth, what we create
Dragging life to death with us
All living things destroyed or used
By shortsighted human beings
We do these things, let them be done
Apathy creates despair
The damage done will be too great
The world wounded beyond repair
​
Another oil spill
Atomic waste displaced
Another forest dies
All ^white ^land ^owning men are created equal!
Pretty soon the only thing you'll be able to trust at all is face-to-face interactions and events that you've witnessed personally with your own two eyes.
Disagreeing with other people over anything read or seen through media will then become like two people with schizophrenia arguing about their delusions.
Everything is coming full circle, isn't it?
My kids aren’t learning anything in school. My high school son told me they all checked out after the pandemic started and they just copy lesson plans from other teachers and hope no one cares enough to call them out. He listens to podcasts all day. My middle school daughter is in the same boat.
My point is public school isn’t where kids are getting their education anymore it’s the internet.
Is this more of the "not being a cheerleader for capitalist modernization/greening with technofixes that maintain Business As Usual makes you a climate change denier"?
Let's see..
>When Sean Youra was 26 years old and working as an engineer, he started watching documentaries about climate change. Youra, who was struggling with depression and the loss of a family member, was horrified by what he learned about melting ice and rising extreme weather. He started spending hours on YouTube, watching videos made by fringe scientists who warned that the world was teetering on the edge of societal collapse — or even near-term human extinction. Youra started telling his friends and family that he was convinced that climate change couldn’t be stopped, and humanity was doomed.
Ah, yes, *I'm a good writer because I include anecdotes to make a nice believable story for the uncritical readers*.
>And some scientists and experts worry that their defeatism — which could undermine efforts to take action — may be just as dangerous as climate denial.
By all means, provide the studies. It should be within the realm of sociology, maybe anthropology.
>“It’s fair to say that recently many of us climate scientists have spent more time arguing with the doomers than with the deniers,” said Zeke Hausfather, a contributing author to the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and climate research lead at the payments company Stripe.
lol, the ending of that paragraph really cancelled everything else nicely.
> like retired ecologist Guy McPherson — who claim that human extinction, or at least the breakdown of society, is imminent.
He's an outlier doomer.
>“‘Twelve years to save the planet’ was actually: We have 12 years to cut global emissions in half to stay consistent with a 1.5C scenario,” Hausfather explained. “Then ‘12 years to save the planet’ becomes interpreted by the public as: If we don’t stop climate change in 12 years, something catastrophic happens.”
1.5℃ becomes, after intensive BAU, 2℃ soon enough, and then it gets worse as the risk of crossing tipping points increases exponentially. Losing the 2030 deadline means that the window to make changes is shrinking faster and faster, and the accumulated risks that end up in the near-term and mid-term future with a high certainty are getting more probable. It's like detecting a cancer too late; sure, it's not in metastasis yet, but the closer it is to that, the more severe and damaging the interventions have to be and the smaller the chance for successful outcome.
The scientist there is talking about climate, that doesn't make him an expert in psychology or sociology or politics or other ways of understanding human behavior at different scales.
Let me put this in a simple way that can be understood statistically: the more we fail to adapt and mitigate, the more we fail to adapt and mitigate. The COPs do not show evidence of *performance*, but of failure. Failure to transform is the most probable scenario (BAU), so that is the rational position. It is not rational to rely on hope that some researchers will discover or invent real solutions to the planetary hard problems in the future - what that is is called **gambling**. And since it's gambling the entire biosphere, us included, it's some type of Russian roulette game. If you're gambling with everyone's lives, you better have everyone's consent for such decisions.
The planet is not in some stable state for us to keep trying different passwords for a lost account for the next century. The situation is not improving, GHG emissions are going in the opposite direction, as is the temperature. The probability of a sudden and surprising turnaround due to some technofix is very small. Meanwhile, we have more concrete / weighty promises for new fossil fuel extraction; those are likely to happen.
>“It’s not like 1.9C is not an existential risk and 2.1C is,” Hausfather said. “It’s more that we’re playing Russian roulette with the climate.” Every increase in temperature, that is, makes the risks of bad impacts that much higher.
Hah.
>In 2018, he briefly considered quitting his job to travel the world — hoping to see what he could before society and the natural world collapsed. Slowly, though, he started getting involved in local climate groups, and when he attended a meeting in Alameda for the California city’s climate plan, something clicked. “I think that for me was key,” he said. “It made me start realizing the power of good policy.” Now 32, he has earned a master’s degree in environmental science and policy and works as the climate action coordinator for the California towns of San Anselmo and Fairfax.
Lol, talk about a non-sequitur. Yeah, you feel better when you do actions. It's not a secret. It also doesn't mean the problems went away. Unfortunately, actions within the *BAU* system are already accounted for by the system, and they'll be used to grow the system even more (I'm referring to the professional NGO sector). That's Capitalist Realism. In practice, improvements in GHG reductions in some places will be used to increase GHG emissions in others (that's the carbon trading market, but it also applies to non-market policy balancing).
>“It’s a question of risk, not known catastrophe,” Hausfather said.
Thank you, another useless paragraph.
>But finding the balance between constructive worry — that is, concern that motivates you to do something — and a sort of fatalistic doom is difficult. Nowadays, climate scientists try to emphasize that climate change isn’t a pass/fail test: Every tenth and hundredth of a degree of warming avoided matters.
If by activism they mean monkeywrenching and property destruction, sure.
>For his part, Youra has advice for those who are suffering from the same sort of fatalism that he once felt. “Stop engaging excessively with negative climate change content online and start engaging in your community,” he said. “You can be one of those voices showing there is support for the solutions.”
Yeah, in case the pandemic wasn't enough for you, go connect with the community around and discover the depths of human ignorance, stupidity, callousness. That'll do wonders for your mental health.
Yeah, but I was actually thinking since there will be nothing left to eat, so I would probably have to eat my own flesh, but I remembered that might taste real BAD. I said to myself. That's basic chemistry :(
This is the WSJ, right? The mouthpiece of the omnicidal civilization we all labour under?
"Cool story bro"
This is the bougie ruling class telling us that we're denialists if we don't jump for joy at their non solutions to the problem.
Let's see how many of these WSJ fuckers have their fingers in the pies of arms and oil.
They piss in your face and demand praise, fuck em.
Wherever you are, or are thinking of going to, make sure you have water. It's spring here, and it's raining, raining, raining. My two IBC barrels are *FULL*. I would like at least one, perhaps two or even three more, spread around the property, just for peace of mind. Probably won't happen this year. But, over the next two or three, it likely/hopefully will.
The second thing is to think about how/where you'll find sources of nutrients for your soil in the future. Keeping animals around can be a source of meat, money when you sell them, and at least as importantly as anything else, their manure is compost for your gardens.
Whatever plants you grow, you will be depleting the soil year over year. In order to have and maintain good souls you'll need to be amending it. Animal manure - from sheep, cows, chickens, goats, horses, pigs, whatever - is *the* traditional, and sustainable way to do so.
Rotating your pasture is the next, important thing to do/think about. Keep your animals off of sections for months in order to let it regrow and, also to help cut off the cycle of worms in your herds. Ours is currently just two large sections, but I'd like to get it set up so it can be moved into 4 or more. The more, the better.
Finally... If you aren't already farming, and think you'll be able to just pick up and start post-collapse and be fine. Gods, but do you have a lot of hard lessons coming. Gardening is *hard*. Crops fail. Not everything works in all places. Some things take *years* to become established and producing.
If you think gardening is hard though... Fuck me if raising animals isn't harder. My mantra right now is *know better, do better*. We lost our first three lambs. The last two seem to be doing ok, so far, along with a goat kid. It's our first year with sheep, but we've had goats for years. Didn't think they'd be this damned different. Chickens I feel like we have mostly down - though we just buy chicks from hatcheries, so maybe that's cheating.
Anyhow. Point is, if you have some illusion, that causes you read a book or five on gardening, homesteading, farming, etc you can just pick up and do it? You're delusional at best.
11:18
The Nations were angry, but your anger has come. The time has come to judge the dead, and to reward your servants the prophets and your holy people, all who respect you, great and small. The time has come to destroy those who destroy the earth.
Health insurance has you captive too?!
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What retard put BMO on this list
But I like my comforts!! They are one of the only things bringing me comfort in my life. I can't take this climate change BS anymore!!
I’M NOT GOING TO DIE BRUTALLY!!! I AM SO SICK OF PESSIMISM!!!
You do you tho. If you wanna hold their pocket, and be their change purse, you do you boo.
Haha whatever buddy, enjoy your bags, I'm going to keep doing me
Dude, if you really can't stand all the pessimism, why the fuck are you hanging out on /r/collapse?
Unsubscribe, go outside and touch grass
get a 3d printer print the fgc9 submachine gun rest of it can be purchased at hard ware store then print off 4 100 round drum mags and a suppresser. Buy an red dot sight . Then find the what about ammo guide make your own primers and brass case then go yo atlas arms go to the intellectual property then copy the sabot design and copy the bullet core design send bullet core to alibaba metal manufacturing company export it as drill bits made of tungsten.
congrats you now have a full auto smg that can punch rifle plates
https://www.docdroid.net/l4AjR92/how-to-make-9mm-ammo-in-europe-pdf
https://twitter.com/russellEstes84/status/1638318383761424387?s=20
https://www.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/whzwed/full_auto_fgc9_mk2_hell_yeah_boooy/
https://www.atlasarms.com/document/download/3/3eb6acfc-9243-4468-9b28-1464665e15e1/6
get a 3d printer print the fgc9 submachine gun rest of it can be purchased at hard ware store then print off 4 100 round drum mags and a suppresser. Buy an red dot sight . Then find the what about ammo guide make your own primers and brass case then go yo atlas arms go to the intellectual property then copy the sabot design and copy the bullet core design send bullet core to alibaba metal manufacturing company export it as drill bits made of tungsten.
congrats you now have a full auto smg that can punch rifle plates
https://www.docdroid.net/l4AjR92/how-to-make-9mm-ammo-in-europe-pdf
https://twitter.com/russellEstes84/status/1638318383761424387?s=20
https://www.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/whzwed/full_auto_fgc9_mk2_hell_yeah_boooy/
https://www.atlasarms.com/document/download/3/3eb6acfc-9243-4468-9b28-1464665e15e1/6
[Duke University Professor, in 2019, found low-income buyers weren’t to blame for the financial collapse that led to the recession, dispelling the Sub-Prime Mortgage Myth b/c it didn't align with the data. 2008 was a clearing firm settlement crisis like 2021.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/10rwfaw/duke_university_professor_in_2019_found_lowincome/)
The anime perpetuates the subprime mortgage myth.
The full picture is that our leaders have convinced us that to enjoy life on earth we must be their indentured servants for ~~30~~ ~~40~~ 50 years...all while they destroy our only home.
They control the land ownership system, the men who will evict you at gun point, and the fake money supply.
When people have the natural desire to have a place to call home, we are preyed upon. Our leaders are more than happy to enslave us with interest-bearing loans.
Compare this to a system where people work together to ensure everyone has a place to stay. Look at any tribe and you can see they don't charge their children 6-figures for the plot of jungle or steppe to raise their family on.
Isn't it time for us to stand up like those in the Global South?
Those who say "Enough!". " Enough! We are not here on Earth to be slaves to you. We remember who made this earth and it wasn't you. You have more than enough. And we have more of a right to be Mother Earth's caretaker than you greedy destroyer!"
What an absolute waste of a post. Can mods delete this? It doesn't further discussion.
It is washington post, these guys are crooked as fuck. Owned by corporate interests and always pushing the anti WFH, anti millenial kind of nonsense. Superstonk doesnt think much of these guys or wall street journal and all those similar propoganda outlets. They truly are just propoganda at this point
Thanks for this. I tend to forget how powerful this movie is. Not to mention it's Qui Gon Jinn taking on this role too.
I understand what you are ruminating over strangelander29. Zombieland celebrated and showed the necessity of blowing off steam. The collapse news and revelations is getting to all of us. I can see the patterns.
Be kind to yourself no matter how much or little doomscrolling you end up doing.
As ecocide/crooked bastards exposed as economic destruction is being engineered. Fascism rising worldwide- weak sick fucking people infiltrated everything everywhere. US Supreme Court, judges, lawmakers, disturbing % of police/ military, kkk variant proudboy crybullies marching out in the open being protected by said police.. all of them being funded by billionaires and ultra/extra national corporations with only loyalty to the almighty dollar and their own legacy- who have made it clear they swing towards fascist against our begging of social safety nets (FUCKING commie SOCIALISTS!!!). Cost of living (disgusting phrase justifying any of this) unstoppably out of control(intentionally), homeless crisis exploding as they criminalize homelessness. Energy crisis/water crisis/ BOE IMMINENT. Fascists can easily be seen using all this to increase their control/outreach/recruitment and political/hard power.
Nobody’s coming to save us. Anyone who has hopes or plans for a future should probably cancel those because you’re gonna, you’re gonna die. I hope with little suffering/quickly and before you have to watch your loved ones do the same. ARM UP and protect those who are on the kill lists before you. Understand they will (if they aren’t/haven’t against you already) demonized and dehumanized everyone left of Goebbels as satan worshipping pedophile groomer parasite marxist trash.
I don’t know what do to about it, I’m just one (asshole) person (SAID FUCKING BILLIONS). I do envision them forcing us to dig our own mass graves at some point(as part of the lesson- which is that we should have stopped them when we had the chance, be we didn’t).
Good luck out there
No.
I don’t want to die a long slow death of hunger, thirst, heat, homelessness, preventable disease, pollution, radiation, debtor’s prison, regular prison, fascist culling, roving gangs and raiders, or anything else that the chaos brought by the slow and certain demise of climate change and resource depletion tripping into fast and frantic apocalypse when things get too uncomfortable for people to continue with business as usual.
What I would prefer to do can’t be spoken of here, and besides, the majority of people would prefer to die in the ways described above or scurry away to their hideouts than take the action that would write into history a noble end to civilization, rather than a spineless sophomoric disappointment.
No, I don’t advocate inaction.
OH MY GOD!!! PLEASE DON’T BRING UP NUCLEAR WAR!!! CUT THE DOOMERISM BS!!!
Only if you let them. I’m not paying the government anymore if they do this fuckery. We already did this in 2008. That was the once in my life I’m willing to idly abide. They can eat my ass and send me to jail, where they’re gonna be on the hook for my meals, lodging and healthcare too. Fuck the system.
Are you not learning ANY lessons?
So lets irradiate the world is not a better option.
There is no real better option, but nuclear definitely isn't.
Don't post the letter and be very careful how much info you give out unless you don't care about your wife getting fired. Doing otherwise is career suicide.
Chesapeake Virginia
We had three nights of frozen temperatures in a row earlier this week. Today it was high 70s. It felt hot. Unnaturally hot. Looking at temperatures in the 80s as a high the next couple of days. No wonder people are crazy. Temperatures are wild and swinging.
As a great-grandmother, I defy any male to try to create what "identity" he thinks I am, or any born woman, for that matter.
Obviously, no one here lived through the Great Depression.
Far more than 5,000. Where did you even get that number? Your ass?
I agree they will break every law needed to not lose. But the problem is that they would have to create an entirely new set of rules to get out of this. There isn't any time to do that.
What an absolute waste of a post. Can mods delete this? It doesn't further discussion.
I'm done giving a shit about companies, the economy, and "markets". 6 or 7 companies own everything. that conversation is over and irrelevant besides the fact that they're hellbent on destroying everything for a buck.
if we can make a government functional in that way you describe that would be worth the work.
if we can help each other in this mess that's worth the work.
but fuck "the economy", that monster ate my father.
It loved MR and Clerks.
Clerks was so different at the time...cool yet slightly dorky.
No one cares that's why
Humans are a plague on this planet, disgusting and breed like roaches.
Oh this one again.
The one who couldn't not slip a little weird fashy stuff into a discussion about corporate art.
And then spends 90% of this video rambling and hopes you don't notice the two second glossing over of what the title promised to get into.
Go read Origins of the family, private property, and the state and tell me it's painting the stages of history it describes as progress toward enlightenment as control and brutality of dominant classes over the masses gets more solidified and refined.
When someone opens their mouth about communism, assume they know jack shit about it and you'll be right almost every time.
I'm not going to teach you what a straw man is, grasshopper.
Only because you refuse to learn.
The Tesla Ghouls are starting to wind up, usually with horrible renders of what he looked like. There is no such thing as 'free energy' which is what the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states. All that is going on now, is due to Thermodynamics and the human ape incapability for understanding it.
What Tesla said, in 1915, when there were 200,000 Internal Combustion Engine (I.C.E.) cars in the whole US.
**"If we use fuel to get our power, we are living on our capital and exhausting it rapidly. This method is barbarous and wantonly wasteful, and will have to be stopped in the interest of coming generations." - Nikola Tesla, Manufacturer's Record, September 9, 1915**
In 2023, oil and coal are still the primary and majority fuels, probably destroying the whole global ecosystem before they run out. Species suicide is the future. That is what the people want, that is what the people get.
Human extermination is the only option
we already have alternatives, but oil corporations said no
Consumption strike. Stop buying the shit they’re selling. IF we could collectively pull it off it would bring the system to it’s knees. Because too many won’t make that sacrifice I just try to get by with much much less. A drop in the ocean but I’m tired of giving them any more money than I have to. It’s my best fuck you at the moment and I realize that I don’t need a fraction of the shit I thought I did, goods, services, and otherwise.
Politicians know damn well what decisions would need to be made to avert catastrophe. It's just that those decisions would be unprofitable for their corporate donors, and potentially inconvenient for the hordes of reactionary bootlickers who refuse to make any sacrifice for the greater good, so we're not making them.
This is literally ALWAYS true, no matter how accurate a report is, which IPCC reports are not.
For them to be accurate, they would need to incorporate every variable on this interconnected planet. All our instruments are designed by humans, to extend human senses, which is inherently limiting.
Yes, we are more aware now than ever before because we can share information but we are all still running the same wet-ware that was designed to look for food and people to fuck, not track a planet in exponential decline (partially resulting from studying it).
For our predictions to be accurate, we'd need to understand the role of every species and interspecies interaction in the ecosphere and we're losing species faster than we can catalog them. Since that is the case, we're basically trying to get an idea of how much time there is left before a building collapses on our heads based on what we can see from the ground, inside, and the roof, with only the basic fundamentals of structural engineering and certainly not enough to repair any damage we've cataloged.
It is always worse and will always happen faster because of industry-friendly wording, the fear of causing a panic, and basic ass ignorance of how this system works. It's appalling that we're not paralyzed by the shame of sending the world down a path that was always a murder suicide pact. We won't even take responsibility, despite being the people that decided everyone could have a car and fly around the planet because we had to keep those war factories going because profits.
These are the people that are in charge and that is there ethos. The world is very much on fire, sinking, while pests consume any calories that haven't yet gone extinct... including human beings and the species we subsidize from falling victim to shifts in the climate/seasons. Might as well paint a target on their backs.
Many extremely deluded south Africans that refuse to abandon a sinking ship.
>yes there are places with much better ways of life... But they have a different approach to life and that can be a relief to people who might want to focus on the more important things in life and not be made to feel they have failed or are in danger.
OK, especially as a Leftist myself: point taken. It is human nature that people want to find better situations by changing location. (To an extent, I did that myself; more on that below.) There are places -- Scandinavia, primarily, arguably New Zealand -- that have a more enlightened culture than America as a baseline. And they don't have to deal with 35-45% of their fellow citizens being pig-ignorant Christo-fascists.
So if you're saying it is totally understandable that a young American might want to be in such a place, rather than in the U.S. ... OK I can understand that. (Speaking for myself, I'd love to live in a country that provides Multiple Sclerosis medication at cost of manufacture and delivery, ~$30/month, rather than for literally $3,000-$8,000 per month...)
But: is seeking to *emigrate* the right solution? Is it the best way to solve the problem?
**And -- critically and essentially -- is it *feasible*?**
Let's say you overcome the considerable problem of getting a resident visa for a place like Norway or New Zealand -- you're young and in perfect health and have a highly desirable skill set such that a potential employer with resources wants to bring you in, and you have the wealth to fund such a drawn out, expensive process; or you have a romantic partner from that country who wants to marry you; or, etc. -- my point is, you will find those places have their own problems, which are now your problems, and *you have to navigate those problems without the resources you'd have in your place of origin* (navigating in your native language; a personal network of friends and family; familiarity with social systems and ways of solving problems; etc.).
*And* you will find that moral darkness dwells in human hearts *everywhere*. Yes, statistically these places have less violence, but there have still been mass shootings (both example countries), there is still gay-bashing, and racism, and immigrant-bashing. (Ask Syrians in Sweden how welcome they feel...)
As an American myself, my main lesson from actually living in foreign countries is, they can have pluses you do not have at home, and minuses you do not have at home... they are, simplistically, just *different*.
Maybe it's a matter of choosing which problems you feel are most critical to solve. Life is a series of trade-offs, so maybe you deal with higher cost of living to be in a place where you feel physically more secure.
But my point is, **you do not need to emigrate out of your country to solve some of these problems**. You can solve some of these problems merely by *moving within the United States*. Even that poses challenges, but nothing like the prohibitive obstacles of moving to another country.
A few years ago, my partner and I both had remote jobs at the same time, and realized we could actually leave California (alleluiah!), the state where I grew up and lived 45+ years, where my large extended family lives. We wanted a place that had a good civil culture (politically blue), and would avoid some of the worst of climate change. So we moved to the Minneapolis region (where my wife has relatives and friends). Yeah, we have a police culture problem here, as the murder of George Floyd made evident. But, now my trans teenager lives in a state that just enshrined his right to gender-affirming care into law. And our state is now a mecca in the Midwest for the women of all surrounding states to obtain an abortion if they need one: roughly 20% of patients at Planned Parenthood clinics in Minnesota are now from neighboring states.
So yeah, we moved, and we're better off. Would I be better off in, say, Norway, with my MS? Fuck yeah, I would -- but I can't get into Norway, because of my MS. Countries that are gated communities of civilization make it hard to get in, for a reason: scarce resources.
I guess I'm saying, OK, sure, *move* to improve your situation -- but don't think it requires you to *leave your country*.
It is human nature to want to move to improve your life. We've been doing that since we came down from the trees. But I stick to my point: I don't think a young American needs to *emigrate* to create a better life. Change neighborhood, or town, or state, sure. But anywhere you have some personal resources is a better place to make a stand to confront what's happening than a place where you don't.
Incorporate yourself and then do crimes
Yes, we shall.
And for anyone paying any attention, this should prove that it's not our fucking system.
In theory, the GME thing is correct. In theory. If you assume the market rules apply to everyone in every situation.
In practice?
Lol.
You'll see. They're not going to burn their system over some fucking retail investor peons. "Pshh. Serfs."
And when they don't, that should tell everyone everything they need to know, but only like 5000 guys are paying attention. Not enough.
nuclear is a disaster waiting to happen already with all the global warming we have locked in, and with the 450 reactors we already have running around the world. there aren't enough resources on earth to build the tens of thousands more we'd need to replace fossil fuels, and each one takes decades of work to decommission when you shut it down.
all of the other power sources (and nuclear, too) are dependent on fossil fuels to make the materials (coal for smelting, etc), and to transport the materials in the global supply chain necessary to manufacture them. if you eliminate fossil fuels from the equation, they all become prohibitively expensive to make. and like nuclear, there aren't enough resources on earth to transition to them. for example, it would take more lithium than we mine in 16,000 years to transition all the remaining gas vehicles on earth to electric vehicles - and we'd use up the known reserves of lithium in just one generation.
there was never another option. there's no replacement for fossil fuels, just more opportunities for the same companies to make money by peddling the "cure" to the illness they gave you in the first place. they're not going to tell you the cure is dependent on the same thing making you sick.
What is this "market forces" stuff I for real do not get this market worship.
Interstate highways / space program / colonizing the West / police / postal service / utilities... ALL government. Using private contractors, sure. Telling them to fuck off with that if they don't make it to customer spec (where customer is .gov and they have a staff to check on that)? Sure.
Market forces will make you the easiest shit it can turn a profit on and get away with it, that's the entire definition of capitalism.
So you know. Spaghetti with rat turds in it. Baby formula full of radiator fluid. Entire container ships full of dildos.
This is what "the market" produces. If they could just straight rob you and sustain that, that's what they'd do. Maximum profit for minimum effort, that is their mandate.
All the everything you see around you that is in any way useful was a taxpayer funded government program.
That's also why it's all falling apart now, becuz we dernt believe in no communism y'all.
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This was a video from a dubai prostitute that openly admitted to pedo and more for 50k
was removed by reddit
I imagine the same women and instagram “models” visit the climate conference so anything goes
>Here are some of the things that we can do to prevent further climate change:
>Reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.
That's a very generic statement, sounds very innocuous, like "smoke less" or "go for a walk".
Alas....
Have you seen the movie Mall Rats? Its great.
Let’s break this theory down.
If I can grow crops better, cheaper, and more efficiently than the tailor down the road, and the tailor can make clothes better, cheaper, and more efficiently than me, and we both end up with a surplus of our goods, and we decide to trade with each other without a State telling us to do so, so that we both may have a surplus of both clothes and food, where exactly is the exploitation there?
So “basic Marxist theory” believes the economy is a zero-sum game with no ability for growth? I guess technological breakthroughs, improvements in process efficiencies, productivity improvements, distribution improvements, work efficiencies, etc etc can all be ignored because raw materials are finite? Capitalist country’s GDP are flat, right?
Two things can be true: we need much stricter environmental regulations and fines on businesses that pollute, and “basic Marxist theory” isn’t necessarily the solution, because it’s wrong.
Y’all Marxist sympathizers want to see legit r/collapse? Check out the waning years of the USSR.
Critical thinking is not the ape's strong suit.
Man this sub really has gone to shit! Did the mods just give up?
Once again, instead of creating a strawman and attacking that, and contemptuously laying down life lessons about your understanding of “socialism”, why don’t we try this one more time:
- User above said you cannot have profits without exploiting a worker or the environment or both.
- I provided an oversimplified example to refute that assertion.
- My assertion is that if “basic Marxist theory” believes the economy is a zero-sum gain, than it ignores the reality of economic growth.
If you’d like to respond to my actual comments instead of telling me to open a book and reminding me of what I don’t know, feel free. I just think you’re more comfortable being a watermelon - an “environmentalist” outwardly, but truly a Marxist - green on the outside, red within.
Lmao is that what I said? Or did I say that the “basic Marxist theory” about economies being zero-sum gains is bunk?
But on your topic, is it better to specialize based on personal interests, or even necessity, or is it better to specialize due to State fiat?
> Open a book
Imma strengthen my argument with a sprinkling of insult.
> Capitalism involves a capitalist class, not just free exchange of goods and services
This is such an ambiguous, theoretical, almost academic statement. When does the capitalist economy become “capitalist”, when a bunch of mom and pop stores open up? Or when one hires Johnny from down the block for an agreed-upon wage?
99% of businesses in the US are classified as “small businesses” per the SBA. It’s easy to point at the evil corporations and caricature them as the Monopoly man, but the reality is that most economic activity in the US is A) services rather than manufacturing (which has significantly less environmental impact) and B) a product of small businesses.
This notion of the “capitalist class” and the somewhat arbitrary classification of humans into tight little convenient groups may work on paper, but it isn’t realistic. In theory, there’s no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is.
To be fair, [the left-leaning areas are also roughly the least affected by this map.](http://gov.oregonlive.com/election/2020/general/gen20.png)
Now of course, that shouldn’t stop them from caring about the rest of the state. But the people who should care the most have largely been tricked into siding against their own interests. (I say mostly because these days I’m confident there are some among them who would willfully burn their own house to the ground to OwN tHe LiBs…)
The bot is pissed at you bc you didn't spell it out for the sub. The Mods want everyone to spell it out. Why you here. why post belong. You know. People need to understand. Chaos otherwise.
Location: Vermont, USA
Not just weekly observation. But this week spring appears to have come early, mirroring the weather earlier this winter when we were wondering if winter would come at all. I'd say we've had about a month of a "normal" winter here so far this season. It's been unseasonably warm, just as last summer and fall were. It rained on Halloween, didn't get below freezing, which is unusual. And it stayed warm and rainy until late mid February except for a snow storm here and there. It felt like winter finally came late February after the polar vortex, we finally had sub freezing temperatures during the day after that and finally got a bunch of snowstorms (ski resorts here have really been struggling, and with the high temps can't even make artifical snow. Some had to shut down). Decently cold temps and snow continued since then to now (late march) and it is now rainy and warm again and will be all week. Which is bit early for that. We've always had "thaws" but they don't last for weeks or months.
The rivers I haven't seen frozen over once this year because of the warm temperatures. Usually, you know, they freeze at the start of winter and stay that way until spring. They froze over during the 2 day polar vortex back in Feb, but melted right away afterwards.
Because we aren't staying consistently at or below freezing, things keep freezing and thawing, and it's really messing up the roads and asphalt this year. The roads are going to be bad this spring. Another overlooked aspect of climate change, more money spent on infrastructure. During the polar vortex a water main broke behind my apartment too, rapid freezing and thawing will do that.
Back in December we had a once in a generation "wind storm," another very unusual event. 100+ mph gusts all day, knocked down tons of trees, at one point the whole state was without power.
A few weeks ago I went to my local gas station to get some drinks one night, and some old dude is in there ranting at the cashier about "the gays" and I presume transpeople. It was really, really weird. He yells "what is a man anymore? I'm a 'cis-man' now?" or something like that, very visibly agitated. And I'm thinking to myself, we just went through two major severe weather events, unusual events where people died, and you're actually freaking out about "the gays"? I feel blackpilled, at the fact that we're facing an existential crisis, yet all the old people can do is complain about gay people and abortion. Not to mention all the other more pressing issues like homelessness and suicide and drug "overdoses" (many overdoses are really suicides) among young people especially, all which have been increasing year over year here.
I just went to Boston for surgery a month ago. Anyone here from Boston? It was so nice. The people were so nice compared to here. The vibe is very different. I'm not sure how to describe it. I feel like out here in rural areas people are more bitter and mean compared to the city. And I wonder why that is? Maybe because rural America is declining and collapsing but the cities are doing well? I did notice in Boston there was a lot of very obvious gentrification going on, like brand new expensive high rise apartments close to poor neighborhoods. But a lot of new buildings in general compared to the last time I was there 20 years ago. I'd love to live there but could never afford it unless I had family to split the rent with me.
I believe the doomish vibe on the sub (understatement) is a necessary state for the grief process to take place in people, and doesn't make the community unpleasant in itself. These are necessary conversations and yes, they tend to be glum. You don't go into a cancer ward singing and shouting "Hoorayyyyy this is GREAT!" (though maybe you should...but that's a post-doom subject and I digress).
I think what's biased about this sub is that once [if] the grief process is done, people tend to move on to the real world and live in the present moment, leaving doomscrolling behind, which results in a disproportionate amount of fatalistic and depressed users at any given time on the sub. Think of a rehab clinic: once people are cured, they don't hang around at the clinic, they fuck off and go live their new lives. This sub is a rehab clinic for hopium addicts. Not everyone gets better, but for the percentage that do, it's worth the whole shebang.
This process of "once you're better you go do your thing" is one I've observed among my IRL friends, and also some famous collapseniks who suddenly stop prevention efforts and media appearances and just go live a quiet life with their loved ones (eg Pablo Servigne in France)
_Obligatory disclaimer: it takes a certain amount of socio-economic luck, AKA privilege, to be able to transition to a happy healthy post-doom life. Nonetheless, I don't think it invalidates my observations._
Obviously, it's hard to prove the above observations because this is a community of internet strangers. However, I've noticed familiar usernames here disappear over time, being replaced by new 'regulars'. In my own experience, this 'hopium rehab' journey has been incredibly enriching, even though the sub's vibe has remained reliably glum over the three years I've been here.
Now in response to your comment about leaving the sub behind:
Some r/collapse users appear to choose to stay here for years to help others walk into, through, and out of the abyss. There are many roles to play, and all are important. For example, in my case, about three years ago u/dumnezero and u/Capn_Underpants walked [or rather yanked? 😅] me out of hopium and into doom, then later u/mbdowd helped me walk out of it. These were super necessary parts of the grief process. These people are still around, helping others. And today, OP u/Amazon8442 reminded me about the power of local, small-scale 'obviously good' actions I can take to find more meaning in my day-to-day life.
If you're able to see the bright side, and enjoy hanging around on r/collapse, it makes sense to keep visiting here, not necessarily for yourself but to transmit your insights to others. Doing this will help your own mental health too. It's like Ram Dass says: "We're all just walking each other home."
This planet is so ghetto.
I mean, couldn't a bunch of divers with a few suction tubes and boats with containers accomplish the task? That shouldn't be too expensive and they might even find volunteers with boats and volunteer divers who just want to make the ocean a better place to do it. The only thing really needed would be portable pumps to suck the pollutant away and containers.
How deep is the coast near the island anyway? I have diving equipment but unfortunatly I am half the planet away from that place.
Could be a suicide mission. Probably better not do it
OP, I mean this with the greatest respect but I suggest you take some down time from this sub, and perhaps the internet. I'd also recommend you speak with a GP and show them this video.
This video was like a glimpse into the mind of a mad man. You are not well, sir.
Look at you with your lead free brain!
Your submission statement is annoyingly humble. Why can't you pretend you're saving the world like everyone else, you dick.
Seriously though, very cool. My parents had a half acre in Kansas and I always wanted to try one of these seed bombs but they said it would look ugly. They're part of the green grass cult. Oh well.
This may be ultimately pointless, but so is art. I appreciate this a thousand times more than those viral "beach cleanup" posts. They're just volunteer janitors for tourists who couldn't give less of a shit. And they're proud of it. Yeesh.
Not really. But I look at it the same way Thanos does: *It is inevitable.*
Or while we're continuing pop culture references, for my fellow innalowda Expanse fans: The Churn.
>Kenzo: It must be nice, having everything figured out like that.
>Amos: Ain’t nothing to do with me: we’re just caught in the Churn, that’s all.
>Kenzo: I have no idea what you just said.
>Amos: This boss I used to work for in Baltimore, he called it the Churn. When the rules of the game change.
>Kenzo: What game?
>Amos: The only game. Survival. When the jungle tears itself down and builds itself into something new. Guys like you and me, we end up dead. Doesn’t really mean anything. Or, if we happen to live through it, well that doesn’t mean anything either.
I'm not a believer in apocalyptic events. Things like a life ending meteor, spontaneous supervolcano eruption, 10,000 nuclear missile detonatons around the world, other crazy bordering on sci fi events that wipe all life immediately are rare enough that I won't see them in my lifetime. Or fuck it it'll be bad enough that I won't want to be around for it anyway, as morbid as it sounds.
But catastrophic events, downfalls of society big enough to hurt, well that's life. Rome fell, the library of alexandria burned, a pandemic took millions of people from us. Who knows what the future holds for us, but I presume societal ''collapse'' of tough times ahead from more commonly occurring disasters both nature or human made. More floods, more derailments, more abuse.
It is why I follow groups like preppers and here so that I can remain comfortable through the tough times. It's already saved my ass a few times. When the city water went out for boil notice I already had a small stash of potable water. My training and supplies helped me feel comfortable venturing out of the house to gather more supplies during the 72 hour blackout in lethal temperatures in Houston Texas February 2021. When a hurricane ravaged my city in 2017 we were okay because I gathered beforehand items that we still use today. Supplies aren't to be stashed for a nuclear Armageddon that won't come, they are for you to build piece by piece to protect you and those you love through these tough times ahead.
The jungle is tearing itself down right now into something new. Whether I survive or not is ultimately up to fate's hands, but I was given these assets for a reason and will use them to my fullest advantage to make it through. I hope you do as well.
Most of them don't care or only care about their own survival. The same people with the resources to put the brakes on our civilizational suicide think we're doomed.
It's fuckin tragic
I live in Pennsylvania.
The Trump supporter down the street continues to flick me off every time I drive by him, this has been happening since October of 2020. It amazes me that this person is still angry over an election from nearly 3 years ago. Ever since this started happening I haven't really enjoyed living on this street.
I'd like to say something but would probably get censored again by Xi Jinping mod.
I am sorry to hear of your mom's illness. It Is entirely reasonable to expect her to pull thru just fine. Finding stuff early is a blessing these days.
I know it does not seem like it right this moment. Remembering to breathe is the smartest thing you can do. Keep doing it and you will pull thru this one too.
Keep us posted. There will be more, and harder, things to confront in the next years, with fewer resources. She still has access to medical care, this is really really good news. And it gives her a really good chance.
I’m sorry to hear that. Hopefully your mom will be fine. I lost my mom to terminal cancer a year and a half ago. It definitely sucked. I miss her every day. It was my own personal collapse.
That is such a bullshit response. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. “Compromise with fascists”? Last I checked fascists believed their way was the only way. Kind of like saying that the only way is being progressive left.
And so ultimately we will starve more than half the planet.
I'm absolutely an opponent of climate eugenics, it's horrific, but acknowledging that we're far beyond planetary carrying capacity is just stating facts at this point. The question isn't can we adapt, it's how. Because we either adapt or die.
“ mass scale geo engineering‘
This is suicide and is just more 20th century delusional thinking that is rooted in the very weird modern human belief that it is in charge here. The last remaining iteration of human isn’t going to micromanage all of Earth’s operating systems and shoot down every incoming chunk of comet debris forever and noting that increased heat and disruptive weather are just two elements of this fast moving multi-faceted cataclysm.
your word is a whisper, your deafness a shout.
Location: Upstate NY
I'm thinking of a certain T.E. Lawrence quote in writing this:
*'There seemed a certainty in degradation,' ... a kind of safety, for no matter how high one could rise there was a limit below which one could not fall."*
...except, our fall seems limitless; it feels as though the specter of 'social murder' is closing in all around - every day brings greater and greater uncertainty as the institutions that have shaped our lives slowly crumble. The most conspicuous example I've witnessed, which has grown to an absurd point, noticeable in every single aisle of the grocery store - is the phenomena of "shrinkflation". For those who don't know, it's essentially a form of "stealth inflation" where businesses shrink the amount of product they sell you in any variety of deceptive ways: the 92 fl oz laundry detergent you paid $9.59 for last year is now $13.99 and 69 fl oz - and if you weren't looking too closely, you would have barely noticed how much shorter the bottle had become. And this doesn't just happen to detergent - it's everything - foodstuffs of all kinds, sundry items, pet food, toilet paper... this isn't to mention the worsening quality of those products.
We're being squeezed to death for every last dollar we can produce, and are given less and less back all the time - like the 7.5 oz box of Wheat Thins that's exactly the same size as the 8.5 oz box of Wheat Thins from last month *(how do they even do that?)*, nobody would be as so kind as to tell you that this is what is happening. The writing may be on the wall for catabolic collapse all around us, and all we can truly perceive, day to day, is a life that grows increasingly insecure all the time.
Yet, somehow, everything just seems to keep plunking along, doesn't it? This isn't the 'collapse' the culture industry has advertised to us ad nauseam. My own personal collapse, already well underway, has taught me this.
I lost two family members last year - my father, and my uncle. The latter to a sudden heart attack, the former to Alzheimer's. One death was entirely unexpected and sudden, found out about through a stranger's phone call... and the other dragged on and on for 8 long, painful years. Our present collapse reminds me much more of my father's death - it's grueling, torturous in its slowness - like a creeping rot; every day, there's less and less 'there' of something you recognize, and more and more of something else, something that shakes you to your core, forces you to stare down your mortality and realize you're no more than a trembling, scared ape, born in this world naked, alone, whimpering - and just so often leaving it the same way.
I watched my father die in a hospital bed last April, and it was one of the worst things I've ever experienced. When I first came into the room, the hospital staff had this strange "peaceful" elevator music playing, with a video of "nature" imagery playing on a small TV set above my dad's deathbed. This backdrop to my father's 'death rattle' had the effect of disturbing me far and beyond the 'death rattle' itself, and after about thirty minutes I asked a nurse to turn off the music and the TV.
He died 7 hours later.
It strikes me that, in our own lives, we're all collectively the dying patient in the hospital bed, but we don't have the privilege of turning off the music and the TV set, regardless of how disturbing it is. And that's because not only are we part of the production crew, we're the show itself - producing the very thing that keeps us distracted from the reality of society's decay, and impending death.
If 70 is the age I’m expected to retire then I don’t wanna be alive.
Water scarcity leading to failed harvests, famine, political instability and the collapse of international cooperation. That is the weakest link for global collapse and I’m with the collapse aware that fear the collapse in a decade or two, not post 2050.
Too many people is still one of the problems. I don't speak for culling the population but it would be best if we stopped having so many children.
My retirement plan is dying of dehydration and dysentery in a refugee camp on the Canadian border, then buried in a mass grave.
>The NSA knows if you’re a threat even before you do.
"The Bell" conspiracy theory. The idea is that the reason why the NSA/CIA/others are so focused on collecting tons of data (even though the vast majority is useless) is to create a predicative algorithm that will be used to keep the people inline. Edit: Useless data like what types of cakes your mom likes or what Youtube videos you watch. The government collects as much as it can, so much so that it's impossible for a human operative to do it.
Example: Your data from every social media you use (like google, Tiktock, etc) will be used to create a profile of what you believe and what actions you will likely take.
So, if you like rock music and lean left, and the algorithm notices that you have gotten advertisements for a left leaning rock band in your area, than it will predict whether you will go or not with a fairly high success rate. It will also take into consideration things like your bank balance, how long you saw the advertisement, and your work schedule.
Essentially, the government would have near complete and total control of the population, with minimal effort needed they would be able to tell who will resist and who won't.
I heard that the French used molotov cocktails with Styrofoam dissolved in gasoline. Similar to Napalm. Those crazy French people! lol
Yes I agree it depends on what collapse looks like but we are chatting in a thread in which collapse looks like the death of 7/8 of the human population. Since that won't happen overnight, it will be a slow then fast authoritarian escalation until then followed by increased violence.
I agree it's not worth worrying about, especially since in a situation like that, you and I are unlikely to be among the billion that survive rather than the seven billion that die, so whatever.
we all are just worthless
I would say, the large amount of guns is actually a sign of the pure pantswetting cowardice most ammmosexuals exhibit. These people are cowards, not soldiers.
I believe the children are my future
They can change my oil and cut my hair
They can find the tapeworm that I have inside
Give them a sense of pride
So I can crush it
Let the children's wailing
Remind me of my ROI
I decided long ago
Never to live in any neighbor's shadow
If I fail if I succeed
At least I made those little shits bleed
No matter what they take from me
They can't take away my currency!
Because the greatest
Love of all is staring back at me
I found the greatest
Love of all in my bathroom mirror
We can't recycle ours so we just burn them.
its bad faith to tell someone to consider ending their life.
youre the nihilist for thinking unborn, nonexistent people dont have rights. the right to not come into existence.
please point out where i said there is no value in living.
please point out where i said im not happy.
>I don't like seeing people in pain and wish you weren't but
please dont fucking patronize me
>I'm not the one arguing all life is bleak and pointless.
again, please point out where i implied life was either of those things.
"... a popular argument for raising the retirement age was that life expectancy had increased, so people should work for longer."
Can someone help me understand that logic? "People should work for *Longer*?"
Why the f**k What the f**k?
F**k You! You slimy cigar-chompin' fat assh**les. It's astounding; the level of psychosis needed to come up with this, *And* to admit it openly as if you were talking about the f**king weather!
You're sickening!
– SLAVE05251960
Yea, it was definitely so interesting for me bc all my life I wondered. Is it real? My mom forced me to go to church as a kid until as a teen I said sorta loudly while in church, “ I don’t believe in any of this stuff anyways! “ or something close to it.the rest of the first NDE, the septic shock, where I was floating in the darkness… to add to that… it wasn’t darkness like if you turned off the light in a room. It was darkness like infinite darkness. More like the universe of darkness. Vast. And the peace which was there was living, flowing … tangible, like water… it flowed in me and thru me. It was so amazing. Then my husband saw there was no respiration ( a 35 yr master bear and caribou guide in Alaska so he had to take CPR every other year for all those years), tried to call 911 but I had dropped the phone ( trying to answer a call) and it didn’t work. He started to run for the back room where there’s another phone … then an inner voice said to him, stop! There’s no time to call ! You must pray right now. So he did stop and ran back to me where my best friend had showed up just a few minutes before. This itself was weird bc she also had two toddlers and lived 20 min away. So at 8 pm she was always at home getting the kids ready for bed etc. so her and my husband held hands over my body and prayed and I could hear the prayers. Feel them … they were a force. And they began to pull me down. I got to my body and had to get in and it was so hard, bc my soul was so vast and light. Fluffy almost… and my body was so dense, small and hot. It was like being forced to enter a Turkey in the oven which had already reached the temp to come out and be carved. It was so uncomfortable. Hot. But I was in. Couldn’t open my eyes… but aware I was back. They did call the ambulance after praying and the ambulance went to my old address and didn’t arrive until 45 min later and my heart rate was still just 16. Later I recovered and they let me go from the hospital. It was so clear and …. Amazing tho, ya know? Bc I knew we don’t die. It was more a life changing experience than having my kids. Fast forward to after the surgery… March 22… and then Christmas after, so a year ago. Just constant pain and not being able to lay horizontally ( as in sleep… in bed). So talking to god, asking is it ok to put a gun in my mouth? I’ve always heard suicide was not … so … god what to do here, bc I’m not able to keep this up. Just an hour or so a night isn’t enough …I want to come home. And then woken up early. Was aware I was in my cubby hole ( not a real “ bedroom” but two walls 45 inches apart and a platform for a bed. A window by my pillow to have fresh air … 3 kids, small house, it was good enough to sleep and all I needed ) so I’m aware… of all this, but eyes closed… and from very far away , Infinite far, comes an entity… zooming close to me in just one second . Fast! And he asks , are you ready to go? ( I knew he meant to the other side), and before I could say ( with my mouth), yes! I’m ready! … my soul answered, “ no. I still have stuff I want to do”, and with that, the entity reversed backwards, to the same direction and was gone . The entire thing just took like 2-3 seconds. So fast. And I was so disappointed to be still here.the opposite of me and my big mouth… my soul spoke too fast. Gave the wrong answer.., but it was the right one… My daughter is still a teen. And it’s been hard for her. She also isn’t connected to this life. Never was. Wants to “ leave” all the time. So staying … I try to encourage her to keep trying to find something fun or good here. She’s super smart, super wise… and could easily be a model. Just stunning beauty. But even all that… she struggles to stay. So it’s her, why I stay too. If I leave she will too i think. A few months ago, I had a church group who comes to help on the farm sometimes, call and ask if I wanted to call a woman bc she has a tree down. Do we want it? Judy is her name. She’s in her 80 s. We end up talking on the phone for a while. She’s super interesting . I tell her about first NDE. And she comes back and says she’s had two, and tells me them. Drowning when a kid was one, but then she says , and I’ve had one encounter with the angel of death. And he’s fast! I hadn’t told her about my encounter which I think was also the angel of death. I can imagine if you have a whole planet of ppl… 8 B, so many to help over, every second or so, you wouldn’t have much time for each one for sure! If only one word to describe him, it’d be “fast”. So that’s it. My two spiritual encounters. There’s more too… why I can sleep now. Lay horizontally… A pastor named Tom loud. He’s on you tube. Shoreline church just N of Seattle. You can look him up. When I’m super down I watch class 4 or 5 … can’t remember which … around min 18 is a very tall young man waiting for a bus with a baseball hat and marijuana socks! He’s so funny bc he gets so dumbstruck when it happens. I drove from near anchorage to Seattle ( actually my daughter drove me bc I could sit in driver seat for more than a few minutes) last October. He prayed for me and I can lay to sleep now. This is very long… a book even now. Ha!
Hey, can't tell if you're curious and want to discuss, or are trying to get me to blow a whole lot of time thoughtfully answering these borderline impossible to 'answer' questions just so that you can try to dismiss something I've said in each answer, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
You can ask any questions you want! I'm sure I don't have all the answers, or even most of the answers, and there's a non-zero chance that I can't answer a single one to your satisfaction.
I'm not ChatGPT but as a dumb primate language model, here are some suggested answers!
1.) If I had full control of the United States and I tried to do anything to meaningfully change the status quo I'm sure I'd get assassinated by someone.
2.) I am indeed worried about extremist groups rising to power all over the world, and it seems like this is underway in many countries as we speak. Freaked out people seek comfort from people claiming to have all the answers.
3.) WWIII - depending on your perspective, it's already started. Tensions seem to be at an all-time high, but I also have seen too many "sixteen times the world was almost obliterated and you idiots had no idea" videos on the internet to think that I have even 10% of the real information about what's happening behind the scenes. Things seem tense. At least, that's what the primates with lots of followers seem to be saying right now.
4.) If I had ten minutes to deliver a message to everyone in the world, I wouldn't talk about collapse. I would highlight how each of us has a completely unique set of experiences, and despite all our differences, we have a lot in common. I would express my respect and love to each of my fellow humans, and I would wish them well in the times to come.
5.) I don't know if I have a lot of thoughts about Anarcho-Nihilism. I'm sure I barely know what that is. But some sense that there should be no state, and that nothing matters? Am I in the right ballpark? I think it's inevitable that some people end up thinking that this [system*] is preferable to the current set of living arrangements. I don't really think that the system can be 'fought'. Maybe fighting it is the "right" thing to do but I don't know if it does anything. If you can't beat them, join them and get assimilated and feel bad about your life for the rest of your life? I don't know. I mean, if "resisting" feels like the right thing to do, for you, wherever you are, whoever you are, then I guess do that? There's certainly lots to resist. But at the same time, I wonder, is it simply causing the person doing the resistance a lot of stress for questionable results? I don't know. I'm not personally an Anarcho-Nihilist... at least I wouldn't title myself that way.
6.) We're just primates. Can we be violent, selfish, and greedy? Yes. Of course we all can be. Anyone is capable of murder. The vast majority of us don't, because we have stakes in conformity, because our mouths and bellies are full, and because we're not upset enough to do that. Only a very small number of people kill for reasons other than extremely profound emotional duress, maximal desperation, or self-defence. Greedy? I mean, we have the propensity. We are not always, though. Someone who is greedy one day could be generous with someone else, the next. Or have an epiphany. Or be generous, have trauma, and then become greedy. The word "deserve" is loaded. I think that the word comes from a lineage of religious-adjacent concepts and while you may not have meant it that way, I am reminded of that a lot when I see that word. Instead, I might say that what's happening is simply the inevitable, thermodynamic, biogeochemical conclusion of a race of barely-sentient primates (us) who figured out how to burn that black goop that was seeping out of the ground, and use it to power big stinky machines. We weren't really wise enough in any given moment, to look ahead and have enough foresight to change how we did things. Fossil fuels, right now, allow us to have enough food* for 8 billion people. Burning those fossil fuels is killing us, but it's also feeding us. Turn it off, and we starve. Is it greed that keeps the pumps running, or a desire to eat? Things are complicated.
7.) Morality, answered in a paragraph in a comment thread that sixteen people will read. Get it here, first, folks. No, I don't know. I have no idea how to answer that. What's right for "humanity"? What's right for "non-human mammals"? What's right for plankton? Should human life have more value than other life? Would a 'better' form of smarter, kinder, wiser life evolve if we were all gone? Do all lives matter, or are we just members of a population of vertebrate animals on a particular planet around a particular star in the corner of the galaxy, and there's nobody to judge what the morality of our particular circumstance is? I, personally, in my little, short life, go out of my way to help people in my immediate area when I can, when I see a need. I stop to ask if people with car trouble need help or need me to call someone. I stop if I see a dog that looks lost. I gave a homeless kid my jacket one day in 2013, because it was hella cold out. Am I a hero? No. Does it matter? Not really, except maybe that kid was warm for a little while until someone else stole it from him, or he lost it, or the cops threw it in the garbage when they arrested him a month later. I have no idea. Despite the fact that he killed himself a couple months after saying it on the Vice documentary about him, Michael C. Ruppert said something that stayed with me. Something about living with the 'warrior's stance' or something. Get up each day and face the world so that you can hold open the possibility of some kind of success or victory tomorrow. Seems like a good philosophy.
What are we at now... 8.)? Hope. Good question. I don't know. There's a Portuguese word (any native speakers jump in and correct if I have it wrong) - Saudade. It's like a nostalgic, melancholic, wistful sense of longing for something, but as much as you're sad, you're also kind of OK with it. At least, that's how it was explained to me. I feel that for the world. The planet is miraculous in many ways. Way nicer than Venus, or anywhere else we could fly to in our lifetimes. We did a lot wrong - to each other, to the planet, to life on the planet... to ourselves. Our way of life is coming down hard, no matter how you slice it. Maybe the bug-eaters will solve the problem. Maybe our great grandkids (all produced in test-tubes, of course, and owned by the company that made them), or the AI they program, will come up with some sustainable way to exist on this planet over the long term. Maybe collapse will come hard and quick and fast and a lot of us won't make it, and some will. Maybe in "the time after" to echo Derek Jensen, there will be fresh water flowing in the streams again, and children smiling and playing under a tree somewhere. Certainly humanity has been through tough times - ice ages, the Younger Dryas, volcanic eruptions that blacked out the sun for a hundred years... this is bad, and maybe worse than any of those single events, but it's still not as bad as Chicxulub. I know that was before our time by a lot of millions of years, but the Earth has been through worse. It's also (at least as far as we can tell) not sentient, has no feelings, and doesn't therefore care, the Earth doesn't. It's a ball of mostly molten nickel-iron, its core the same temperature as the surface of the Sun, with this impossibly thin hard rock crust on it, with a whiff of breathable gasses covering it, hurtling through a cold dark vacuum of space radiation. If any of the factors that enable life on this planet changed by 10%, all life would be over. In that scope, and at that level of zoom, I'm stunned and amazed that I'm able to hit a keyboard to make alphabet soup show up on the screen and communicate with someone elsewhere on the world whom I'll never meet and yet, we can still convey meaning at all... The future is infinite. In that, there's hope. I have no hope for the stock market though. Nor the Edmonton Oilers - they suck balls.
9 or something.) Plans for my future. Yeah, hard to make those when I think we've come loose from the roller coaster and are just falling through the mist into the abyss. Sometimes I'm in 'everyday dude mode' where I make sure I'm paying for my cable bill, getting my dog to the vet, making sure the dishes get done, and going to my job to be an EffEcTiVe TeAm MeMbEr, wHiLe GeNErAtInG VaLuE fOr tHe StakEhOlDeRs. Then, at other times, it's midnight and I'm writing a 10,000 word response to some dude on the internet (who I hope isn't just using this as an opportunity to call me a clueless shithead, though hell, if that makes you feel better, then fill your boots!), and I think, shit man, things are complicated. I still floss my teeth, but I'm not that sad that I'm middle-aged and have no retirement savings at all. Will I make it there? Doubtful. But, I'm excited to go to my buddy's wedding this summer. Gotta live each day still.
10?) Meaning of life. Yeah, you're really going for gold. Bro, I have no idea. I don't think it has one. Life exists. That much I know. Here, on Earth, anyway. We human primates, for whatever reason (doesn't really matter to me) had big brains enough to make noises to each other that allow us to generate and share complex ideas and plans and intentions with each other. Then we wrote it down, made tools, made tools with our tools, and kept climbing a tech tree until we can leave mean comments on YouTube from a phone with 8 CPU cores that lasts 48 hours on a charge of electricity that we pretty much all have running through our walls like fucking magic... We exist.
We exist. I have no idea about the rest of it. Thanks for asking. What do you think? Same questions.
This is the thing. Using politics to force people to do so is out of the question as well, it's political suicide. That's why we get municipal plastic bag bans and whatnot because it's all we can really muster without causing people to openly protest.
I know doomerism isn't helpful, but I don't see much room for hope in the future of "climate action". When the world goes to shit those who have the means will seize control of whatever and whoever they can.
And there's enough uncertainty in the future to stop most from jumping ship, not that there's any safety in jumping ship early. So, we'll cling to our crumbling economic systems as we get pushed further into poverty (I can't buy land now, and I certainly won't be able to as things get worse)
We're all just along for the ride... I don't think homesteading will be much better than holding on to our lives as we know them. When things start going really badly we'll make do as people are doing now, where things are already going badly, whatever that really looks like.
I just wonder how long we really have, and if there's anything we can really do to adapt in the face of such uncertainty.
Bless your heart...
U.S.A!!! U.S.A!!!
I was obviously talking about the person you were replying to since I am mocking the idea that underpopulation is a problem. Guess not everyone has reading comprehension.
What is this guy smoking? I want some. UNDERPOPULATION? Jesus CHRIST.
The aims of these countries' going into this depressing show must have been "Fucking Full Steam Ahead Cunt!" (FFSAC for short).
These countries signed the Paris Agreement. The UN rang "code red" eighteen months ago. We are at perhaps 1.2 degrees of warming at the moment, and we are beginning to see extreme and deadly climate events occurring at a greater frequency.
I'm clinging to the hope that this lunacy will cease, or at least subside, once the older generations fade, and the young become powerful.
You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl’s Jr.
You dunno about the whole WEF conspiracy theory?
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-57532368
The Great Reset means different things to different groups.
Stereotypically the Right in the US believes there will be an Authoritarian Socialist One World Government that only enriches oligarchs
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Then also stereotypically, the left sees elites and bastard capitalism letting leaders and oligarchs enriching themselves now and leaving us to the scraps, when it doesn't happen
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We're basically fighting over which type of apocalypse will happen and why.
Edit: Elites will want to get rich however they can. I don't blame people for believing the theory if they're not full on climate deniers.
You found the loophole!
> Ideally cats shouldn’t be allowed to roam at all, they’re an ecological menace and have devastated not only bird populations, killing billions in the United States every year alone
How human-centric. Cats are just part of the natural circle of life just like wolves - it's humans fucking the world up and killing off animal territories.
We are not the stewards we pretend to be.
Felis Catus is just filling the holes we left by eliminating Lynx Rufus, Puma Concolor, and Canis Lupus.
You used to have to walk the land with a weapon. Kids used to go missing in the woods.
Humans fucked it up. **Humans**
It does a little bit it doesn’t give my life back. it’s just such a deep deep trauma … inside my lumbar and pelvic area. Every move seems to make it worse and ya know, we are made to move…not sit. 20 years ago I ate some improperly handled salmon and went into septic shock. Died. ( no heartbeat, respiration. Eyes open and glazed) , left my body by a silver cord. Floated up into a vast darkness but attached to the cord still in my mid section, so I couldn’t go further. I was like a kite. My two toddlers were attached at the other end , anyway, had this whole spiritual experience and I had to come back ( bc of them)… but I know for certain we don’t die…our soul survives. It was such a gift to have this experience. It was more real on the other side than here. So I don’t fear death. It’s more a matter of having my kids ready to let me go. My son is ok I think, but maybe one or both daughters aren’t. It’s loving them so much is what makes it hard to go, ya know? They are so sensitive and this world is so harsh. Last Christmas after months of not being able to sleep for more than an hour or so bc laying horizontally made the nerve pain ratchet up. I just didn’t want to be here, and was having an inner dialogue trying to come to grips with the reality of my failed body… so weeks went by, asking god, is it ok to suicide out? I want to respect the life I was given. But … I can’t sleep, walk, ski, bike, play guitar, paint, enjoy any aspect of life. So … can I go now was my question. Another spiritual experience happened ( don’t want to bore u , unless u want …bc this is long already ) but it wasn’t my time just yet. So… I’m still here. But I think it won’t be too long until the time is right, and it’s ok to go.
I wonder what percentage of your brain is still functional.
The Trans witches in the liberal states keep summoning hurricanes!
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Just stop working people simple
I was thinking even more generally not just corporations but society at large and not just the S word but all types of death.
Careful now, they'll start calling you a breeder and talking like third rate Anime villains about how mankind is a virus
This sub has been invaded by a bunch of normies and fascists. Group has been very weird lately. Anti-Western sentiment and positive China talk. Praising the one child policy. Gen-Z are boomer level suicidal
>It's political suicide to advocate for an end to economic growth
It’s suicide suicide not to
Hey you seem like you know some stuff. Can I ask you some questions?
What do you think people should do to prepare for the likely outcomes of collapse?
If you had full control of the United States what changes would you make to give your people the best chances at survival?
Do you worry about the risk of the far right nazi-type using collapse/ environmental crisis to gain power and control?
Do you think a third world war is a likely possibility from the coming chaos?
If you had 10 minutes to deliver a message to everyone in the world regarding collapse of course - what would you say?
What are your thoughts on Anarcho-Nihilism? Which I think is fighting the system just for the sake of getting in some damage despite the fact the whole thing seems pretty damn hopeless.
Do you think mankind is generally violent, selfish, greedy? And on some level that we deserve whatever is coming for us?
Do you believe there is any moral obligations that people ought to follow in their lives in relation to all of this? Are you able to say you know what is right and wrong?
Do you think there is hope, at the very very least, for the survival of the hunter gather human?
What are your plans for your own future?
What do you believe the meaning of our lives will be living through what seems like a fast approaching hell?
We need a type of flu that is quick and painless and affects all eight billion of us (I know H5N1 is painful, this is hypothetical). It will take thousands of years, but eventually Earth will recover without humans.
And I sincerely appreciate your willingness to not just say "pill pushing Big Pharma stooge, don't you know if you take just ONE 50 mg tramadol pill, you're damned to a life of sucking dick for dope while you live in a garbage dump! Oh, is the big crybaby in pain? Just lose weight and do yoga you winy fucking fatass; or just be vegan, I'm vegan and clearly it makes me superior to all you losers." (These are all things that doctors say to anyone in pain, and also are the typical responses to every single health related topic on the internet).
Thank you for thinking for yourself and opening your mind.
Sorry if I'm so passionate. I have a PhD in pharmacology and have been on the front lines against The War On Drugs for the last 2 decades.
The French are rioting because the government raised the retirement age to 64. The US retirement age is 67. No one cares.
can you step out of candy land for 1 minute and join us here in the real world
The French are rioting because the government raised the retirement age to 64. The US retirement age is 67. No one cares.
In this sub there's a contingent of people who will just call you a fascist and tell you to kill yourself for bringing it up.
I'm glad there are plenty of people in this thread articulating this better than I could. I got into a small back and forth with some folk calling anyone talking about overpopulation fascists yesterday and ended up basically being told to kill myself. I don't think I articulated my thoughts well enough, but they're basically in line with what you said. There's no moral "solution" to overpopulation. Nature will take care of the issue in its own way if we can't find such a moral "solution" and it will be neither moral nor immoral, just nature doing its thing.
Are... are you trolling? Haiti, which has a capital overrun and in large part controlled by gangs (which have ties to various political factions and figures)? Sri Lanka, where last year the country ran out of fuel and thousands of people stormed various government institutions, including the residences of the prime minister and president? Pakistan, which is experiencing regular bombings (car, suicide, and otherwise) and attacks by extremists on police headquarters in major cities?
I mean...
I don't know. I can't really predict how future US policy will effect my travels. I imagine I just keep going until I find a place secluded enough where not even America cares. You can't stop the war machine. It's gonna get what it wants in blood and treasure. I understand that's an extremely cynical view, but when you see injured infants whose entire village was destroyed by hellfire missiles because it was a suspected Taliban training site; it kind hits that cynicism home. My hope is to stay far away from potential US targets.
Fuck I need to proofread better. This is a word salad lol. Basically I keep going until I don't have to. I don't intend on fighting or even being an issue. I just want to be left alone.
There’s also an html version here http://synthesis-report.com that’s easier to read on mobile!
I had a few jokes get removed because they r/whoosh the mods
Well thing is, let's say you do a lot of long form reading and you learn something. If you want to share it, you can do a lot of long form writing. Then other people who do long form reading will read it. No one else will though. So if you have some information you want to share with a lot of people, then you have to accept reality and figure out how to create something they'll engage with. What form is superior definitely depends on your goals.
The smart ones will find a way to profit from climate change. Until they can do that little will be done. I am sure a lot of people will lose their lives due to the changing environment and people not being used to the new diseases they are exposed to. Just like the American Indians died enmasse when settlers and explorers brought European viruses to the Americas. Will there be planned "culling"? Anything is possible especially when it comes to the poor and the displaced.
RIP 💙
Exactly
Not related too much but I became collapse aware after listening to the last Kauai 'O'o singing [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDRY0CmcYNU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDRY0CmcYNU)
So, thank you for at least caring enough to get angry about this.
Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada
The Western tanagers have returned in ever smaller numbers.
I remember the first years we lived up here seeing hundreds of them, I had never seen them before. The South Island supposedly has a summer breeding population, but not having been an avid birder I had never witnessed them. Up here though it's a tragedy befitting of a horror movie when they arrive.
They congregate on the highway, I have theorized It's for the grit and salt as well as the warmth of the morning sun on the asphalt. Of course being a highway trucks and cars barreling along at 90 to 100 km means it's an absolute massacre. the number of birds drop through the years, now it's a small scattering of bodies every few hundred meters that litter the road, in the past it was dozens every few meters.... more.... I worked at a local hotel when I first moved here, I remember a contractor truck driving into the parking lot, the guy jumped out and started picking lumps out of his grill and throwing them in the parking lot, upon closer attention I realized the lumps had tiny wings. I went over to the truck after he checked in, at my feet were the crumpled bodies of tens of tiny brightly coloured birds. It's a standout as one of the most gut wrenching moments in my life. Tossed aside as garbage, slaughtered en masse, the leavings of industrial scale genocide their fragile beauty reduced to annoyance.
Honking your horn and slowing down is all that's required to not commit a massacre. For a few years I preached this simple fact to as many as I could. I had the ears of not just locals in my hotel position. From mid March to early April, a few scant weeks a year. All that required of men is to use their fucking horn to not commit mass murder.... What do people do? Well a few of the really fucked up apes actually accelerate into the small clusters of birds on the road... But most simply don't give a shit ... Get out of the way. I'm certain they chant this under their breath as they plow through the flocks... I had the misfortune of being behind one such psychopath a couple of years ago watching the heads and bodies bounce off her car as she sped past me down the highway (I had to stop and have a cry, I hated that woman until the day she mercifully, for the birds, died of a stroke)
Long story short people are still plowing through the now tiny flocks of birds on the road, no horns, no shits given. They die in little clumps of a half dozen or so because that's all that is left. My last grocery trip was witness to the little red stains and feather piles spread out for 40+ km. It left me feeling homicidal for a while, but mostly just enforcing that hopeless impending sense of doom with the underpinning of hatred for my species.
I've never hit a single one in 20 years, for 2 to 3 weeks I drive under the speed limit ready to break and use my horn constantly... That's all it takes. 15 minutes more on your trip time for caring enough not to kill shit... The majority of people here only avoid hitting what might damage their cars... The rest? Fuck them, they shouldn't be on the highway if they don't want to die... (Side note many other species die because they come to feast on the bounty of squished and decapitated tanagers. I've seen eagles, ravens and some of the smaller corvids dead along side the little body piles)
When there are no birds left singing in the trees, make no mistake we did it intentionally, because doing anything else would be inconvenient.
Fuck humans
That's all
That's horseshit. The smart ones like Gates will obviously figure it out sooner, but the elite are all about self preservation. Even if that means no more growth. The economy is pointless when money loses it's value. Action WILL be taken. In the form of mass culling. The rich will kill people off, or just let them starve, while they hide away in bunkers.
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn
World serves its own need
Speed it up a notch, speed...
There's a neutral -suicide web forum that had to migrate off reddit when their sub got banned. I had never even heard of it til the media helpfully decided it was a great idea to draw attention to it in the guise of "we need to ban this horrible website!!!" like jfc people cant have **one place** to discuss suicide uncensored, they've had issues with hosting providers cancelling on them - ya know the "make your own website!" joke but that doesn't matter because how the internet works its impossible to be fully self sufficient. I think its still up right now but very controversial.
My partner got an aspergillus niger (black mold) infection in her lungs while on chemo. Really not great, like, hey, we're fighting cancer over here, could you fucking not?
So we all need to eliminate 7 people to get us to the goal.
We ken dew eeeet!!!
The pessimist in me says they want a pandemic to reduce the populations rather than war or nuclear war. AI is really going to create some unrest and mass unemployment and depression. But, most of the population are too naive and have no power to stop it.
AI is already smarter than most people.
The problem I have with this sort of thinking is that it assumes that the hierarchies and weapons and industrial capacity in society will just disappear and everything will be leveled out and the people with survival skills will fare better.
But that's not what will happen. There will be increasing fortification and doubling down on power structures, use of the police state and border walls and all of that. Long before you get the chance to live off your farm with those skills, some sort of police force, armed agents of the very rich and/or organized crime, will come and take it from you. They're going to take most of the land, they will dominate the roads and the supply chains and the ports and all of that long before we get to the point that everything just collapses. They already have plans like that in place (they just say it's for preparing for a contested invasion/occupation). They already have military and police training camps and have a lot of experience operating in civilian populations all over the world. They will ramp all that shit up in full force long before you get to be a skilled farmer. The road between now and the deaths of billions isn't short- it's probably going to be generations of increasing authoritarianism under extreme shortages. If the ruling class doesn't put you in a camp, what's to stop roving bands of desperate people from taking your cattle at gunpoint?
I just don't get how people think any of their skills could possibly be useful in a collapse like we are imagining here. Look at the migrant crisis right now, the millions of people fleeing their homelands. Do you guys think none of those people have handy real life skills? Most people on the planet still live relatively close to the land. Not everyone is as alienated from the products of their labor the way workers in the US are.
They don't understand much, I pity them. They run on xanax, anti depressants, sleeping pills, beer from 4pm on... while at the same time think they've found the formula on how to live.
I lived in Colorado for two years, so know exactly what you are talking about.
Don't get me started on the $75k Alzheimer's drug the FDA knows isn't effective and causes brain bleeding. In crazy times, going against the crowd becomes necessary
This baffles me to no end. Like, nobody WANTS to hear about another pandemic. It sucks all around. But just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it isn't happening or won't affect you...and I guess that's where I differ from the idiots out there, because they truly seem to believe that "out of sight, out of mind" is an appropriate worldview for pretty much everything. Infuriating.
If there is one country that is serious about weather, it’s Germany. Any hopes of fixing things would be there, but I will be a good German and be pessimistic.
It’s doctor approved for some chronic illness. I don’t wish to discuss my current situation as it is personal. But people thinking they know what is good for you is ridiculous. All this antibiotics hate is misguided. Using antibiotics off label is bad. And prescribing them when not needed causes resistance. But they save lives when used proper and definitely have a place in chronic illness
>It's political suicide to advocate for an end to economic growth
Only because the robber barons are in charge of the Politicians.
2023 called to tell you you're full of shit
Shouldn’t you have your head buried in the sand or something?
Yeah, I agree. Consumption would have to decrease. There is an argument to be made that if "green" sources of energy had been given the same the attention and research dollars that have gone into petroleum products for the last 120 years, we'd be in a far more comparable position in terms of energy density, efficiency, etc.
The other thing too is that lithium ion batteries and solar panels are almost 100 percent recyclable (not sure about wind turbines). I mean so is gasoline but it's a far more energy and resource intensive process.
At the end of the day all I'm saying is, we have the tools to do it, without culling 7 billion people. Contrary to OPs thesis and what the capitalists would have you believe. Although as long as the few control the world's resources and are only motivated by profit, we have no chance.
We could be living in a nuclear (relative) utopia, but no some rich cuck oil barrens had to fear monger to stay in power and rob the generations to come of their future
Let’s place some bets. What could this mean for northern hemisphere summer? I bet another heat dome in west coast North America, hurricane season past letter k, and drought all across Europe/ North Africa.
Well he sounds like a piece of shit.
If we were run by enlightened despots, it would be possible, maybe, to convince enough of the right people to change societies. We are for the most part run by a mix of imperfect democracies and secret or not-so-secret cartels. We don't even really know who runs the cartels, and the electorates are all brainwashed by cartel-owned and -influenced media.
So, yeah, "the economy" is a stupid justification for collective suicide. How will we change trajectory in the time we have to resolve this in a controlled fashion? If this were a plane, it would be time to put on the parachutes. A controlled landing is not a high-probability outcome.
Holy mother of Christ what a bunch of lies wrapped in propaganda.
A plague upon us masses. It’s all we deserve after our wicked ways
Easy to understand why. He was a piece of shit but the middle east seems to function better with strong hands. It would just be nice if the hands were strong and not absolutely sadistic and brutalist.
SS:
Richard Heinberg sober assessment of the dilemma of policy makers and politicians regarding energy policy. It's political suicide to advocate for an end to economic growth and a ramp down of per capita fossil fuel energy consumption, but that's the only way we have any chance of avoiding catastrophe.
Mm-hm, have you tried to convince others that Covid is causing these effects? Have you tried to get them to do anything whatsoever to protect themselves?
I printed out relevant articles, study abstracts, etc. put them in a binder and gave it to a friend to read. I made two presentations to give a friend over Zoom. I spoke to others about my own experiences with Covid over the phone.
Generally, they acknowledge the possibility somewhat, then start asking questions that reveal a mental process of trying to downplay it and make it somehow my unique situation rather than something that could affect or be affecting them, etc.
They seem to have either no awareness or memory of their own difficulties finding words, keeping track of time, feeling periodically dazed and confused, etc. Some are starting to show signs of poor judgement financially.
At least one person I tried to convince that wearing an N95 mask could protect her ended up having a stroke since then. She was surprised then troubled when I mentioned wearing a mask. She had lost that memory and thanked me for reminding her.
Another person I've tried to warn finds the information too stressful and reacts to everything with religious coping. Lately his daughter became unable to run competitively and got anemia. Now he absolutely refuses to hear any news about Covid and seems psychiatrically on the edge.
An older family member who's been scared of dementia ever since her mother died from it was getting severe headaches and felt dismissed by doctors who blamed it on anxiety and migraines. I asked her to wear an N95 around others for a month and see if her condition improved or even went away (which is what I found for myself). She agreed then the next time we spoke she said that her husband told her 'masks don't work' and asked me if I was really sick or just stressed. Since then, she's shown signs of unusually poor reading comprehension on social media.
For any disease that damages the brain, lack of insight is a problem. They can't tell or remember being impaired, so why would they believe me over their own experience? They will never feel enough of a sense of urgency or threat so long as they first downplay the situation to reduce their anxiety, then second, progress far enough along that they lose insight into their own degenerating condition.
Hopefully, the condition is temporary or self-limiting for most people and this will all come to nothing for them. They will continue to be lucky and feel no regrets about their choices.
But based on the Long Covid figures, as much as one in three will take significant, probably permanent damage. For those, it seems likely that the memory impairment will ensure that they will continue to enjoy their self-imposed ignorant bliss.
*They didn't want to know. Then they became incapable of knowing...*
It could be a good tag line for this horror movie we're living.
For everyone: carry narcan always and know the signs of an opioid overdose. You can save someone's life and it's super easy to administer. An overdose looks like pinpoint pupils, blue lips, rattling/gurgling, not breathing, not able to be woken up. If you have someone exhibiting these signs, administer one dose of narcan and call 911. Wait 2 mins and if no improvement, dose em again. If they've stopped breathing on their own at all, rescue breathing is recommended if you are comfortable with it. pinch nose, lean their head back, breathe into their mouth every 5-6 seconds. Generally these people do not need CPR. CPR is only required if their heart is not beating.
For people using any kind of drugs: always test your shit to the best of your ability before using. Fentanyl test strips and other reagent tests are available through dancesafe. I wouldn't waste them on anything presumed opiate because it's always going to be positive for fentanyl - but cocaine, meth, mdma, pressed pills - test. Get the ratio right! follow the instructions otherwise you can have false negative/positives. Next, use fresh clean equipment, metal straws that are yours alone, a clean surface, clean syringes, whatever. Next, use in small increments. You can always add more, not take away. Next, never use substances you are unfamiliar with alone. New batches can be unpredictable. Always have someone able to help nearby or call the hotline for don't use alone. They will just ask your location and stay on the phone with you to ensure that you are okay.
For people using illicit opiates / xylazine: All of the above applies. If you don't have access to clean needles, you can order them on amazon. Narcan should be available at pharmacies or health departments. Do research and always have these things. In addition, be aware of sores developing around injection sites. Early intervention is best. The best practice is the xeroform wraps with bismuth in em if you can order those. I've seen that to heal them up better than anything else before they become giant craters. Switch up the location you are injecting. Try to transition to smoking or snorting if possible. You may still develop issues, but it's less dramatic than injecting. I've heard of people shooting up once in the morning and then smoking all day to maintain, that way they give their skin more of a chance to heal. Don't use alcohol or peroxide on open wounds to dry em out. Just clean with a dial soap and warm water.
It is absolutely true that a lot metals are smelted in electric arc furnaces, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Thanks to thermal expansion, it can be quite catastrophic on the machinery used to carry out high temperature industrial processes to be allowed to cool down so that is avoided as much as possible. So while it is theoretically possible to smelt metals and do other high temperature processes using the intermittent so-called renewables, the massive overcapacity required to avoid costly power disruptions is why it has yet to happen in reality.
Furthermore, when it comes to solar PV, the Siemens Process is the one mostly used to purify metallurgical silicon into polisilicon and it is a multi-day high temperature chemical vapour deposition that also cannot tolerate power disruptions. [Source](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361250287_Troszak_TA_2021_The_hidden_costs_of_solar_photovoltaic_power_NATO_ENSEC_COE_Energy_highlights_Vol_16_pp_22_Copyright_2021_NATO_Energy_Security_Center_of_Excellence_httpsenseccoeorgdatapublicuploads202)
I've been attacked and called a fossil fuel shill for posting that article here before, so I have done some background research on it and the author. Turns out he opened a project on ResearchGate in 2011 where he hoped to be the first to be able to prove the viability of 'solar breeding' (using solar to make solar) through a meta analysis of the literature. He updated it in 2019 that after reviewing thousands of papers from all varieties of sources he still didn't have enough information to be comfortable giving an estimate and then he wrote a scathing indictment of solar and especially the dishonest way in which it is sold to the public. And by scathing indictment, I of course mean that he provided a detailed explanation of how they are made which very clearly highlights how they are anything but "clean" or "renewable". The point I found most interesting is that when cutting the wafers, around half of the material is lost to sawdust. Also this great line:
>Other than the continual deforestation necessary to provide the wood chips and charcoal used in PV manufacturing, no part of any PV power systems are self-reproducing in nature.
Sorry for the long comment, but I also recently revisited the controversy around the Siebert & Rees paper and I still agree with them that their critics, if they even read the paper, did not understand it. I couldn't help but notice the second author on the Fthenakis paper this time. Anyone who has attempted to get a handle on EROEI should be familiar with him because he really seems to be the reason that it is such a wasted concept. It's an interesting theory that is useful for explaining resource depletion, but a group of academics, of which Raugei appears to be the most prominent, have used it and some very questionable methodology to pretend the so-called renewables are equivalent to the fossil fuels in terms of EROEI. They are the ones that run highly theoretical models where every solar panel is perfectly oriented and every day is cloudless for the entirety of their "30-year" lifespan and nothing ever goes wrong. Seriously, [in his response](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421517302914) to Ferroni & Hopkirk, he assumed 0% downtime!
[He also attempted to get Prieto & Hall's book, Spain's Solar Revolution, censored](https://energyskeptic.com/2017/tilting-at-windmills-spains-disastrous-attempt-to-replace-fossil-fuels-with-solar-pv-part-2/) because they found, using real world data, that in sunny Spain, the EROEI of solar is less than 3:1. I have no doubt Prieto & Hall went the book route because they knew they would never get passed the academic gatekeepers, but that should not be an indictment of them.
One last note, in their reply to Diesendorf, Siebert & Rees mention that:
>We were therefore somewhat surprised that most of the comments and
questions that have come to us in private communications have been
markedly positive, many expressing gratitude for seeing such unpopular
yet evidence-based and common-sense assertions in a public forum. Some
have expressed relief for no longer feeling like a lone voice or that
they have privately held the same view but have been reluctant to
express it for fear of backlash.
Which is very similar to what we hear on the climate. I like to believe it's true, because the opposite is even worse.
For some reason I can’t respond to the mod comment. But this is not a local issue it is nationwide in the USA. It does seem to be most prevalent in Philly but Xylazine is everywhere.
I think this is more about the larger corporate push for automated censorship of suicide due to fears of it spreading like a disease, not the specific rules or policies of /r/Collapse
Yes, birds are essential to keeping our ecosystem in check, providing for food and culling populations.
We dont want great leap forward bird populations or we might end up with all kinds of horrific side effects as we reach warmer seasonal temperatures.
For now discussion of suicide is considered socially and economically disruptive and is to be shut down by the 'bots.
A few years from now the 'bots will find it necessary to aggressively market suicide as a solution to Human Resources problems. The Quietus kits depicted in *Children of Men* will no longer seem so far-fetched.
If you haven't already bought a bidet by now, you don't deserve a clean ass in the next pandemic.
Are you for real? Can you name a single object that doesn’t degrade in condition over time, from a macbook, to your body, to the goddamn sun?
I don't understand why the mods don't ban this type of toxic stuff
The current population growth rate is about 1% right now and the population has increased over 70% in the last 40 years.
Here's a list of populations and growth rates for the last 70 years: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/
You can see that the annual growth rate has always been at least 1% for every single year in that time.
there's a difference between talking about "your own potential death" and suicide as a societal issue or common problem or thought
>People who talk about suicide want help
Not always. soemtimes they just want to 'let go'
Thanks for the good info.
The trouble is unfortunately that in industrial scale bird meat farming, there are so many birds that the symptoms above might not get noticed until it is too late.
If bird meat farmers really thought of their birds as living creatures whose well-being was important, they wouldn't be in the field in the first place.
I have no problem with long-form music.
The trouble that Doom Metal is disappointingly bland and lacking in weirdness.
I was hoping for something more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz774iTTD0Q
It happened for a large number of reasons, including the fracturing of our attention, but also as we had more new means of entertainment, music simply became less important.
When I was young, someone would buy some albums, and then a bunch of people would come over to their house and all listen to these albums, because music was expensive, and rare, and what else could we do before the internet and home computers with a few TV channels, the radio, the cinema, books, records, and that's it?
If you bought an album you didn't really love, you would listen to it a lot anyway to get your money's worth out of it, and sometimes he discovered you really liked it. Or not, but you knew it anyway.
Lots of people learned skills in life, even just on the side. Don't worry, there are people who know how to take care of themselves and cook food. When the stupid, obese, lazy lot of the population can't order uber eats anymore and dies off, the smart ones will be okay.
>That was really good and surprisingly politically non-biased
Please don't think I'm trying to be a complete asshole to you, but the only people who think being "politically non-biased" is important are people who are so politically uneducated that I frankly have no words for it, and who don't understand that the vast overwhelming majority of all of our issues today in this nation are due to Republicans, full stop.
As Republicans strip us of our rights, use Nazi propaganda tactics, pack our courts and supreme court with unqualified partisan extremists, their leadership exclaims publicly that they're domestic terrorists, obstruct anything remotely actually useful to anyone and attempt to overthrow our democracy to install Trump as a dictator, politically uneducated people like yourself have begun to *boil my fucking blood*.
Did you not exist for the past 6 years? How in the absolute *fuck* can you not see what's been happening?
They're fascist authoritarians. They're quite open about this now. They check almost every one of the 14 points of fascism laid out in Umberto Ecos book Ur-Fascism.
Did you see how Tucker Carlson purposely and *completely* misrepresented what happened on January 6th, doctoring footage heavily?
They're out here creating full blown, in-your-face doublethink propaganda and people like you want to carry water for these fascists and sit around and proclaim we need to "listen to both sides," fuck outta here.
You think so? I have had major clinical depression and there was no choice I could make to solve my depression. It was simply not in my control to not be depressed. I get that addiction can rewire your brain to make a person want a drug and become ill if they don't do that drug. But you can physically remove yourself from access to those drugs. One can not remove themselves from their depression even with medication and therapy.
Holy mother of Christ what a bunch of lies wrapped in propaganda.
You cultists are hilarious. You need to actually read expert opinions on this subject, not dudebros on WSB man. I can't even imagine being this ignorant yet this confident. This is sad.
Do you know what a "predicament" is?
Why do you think there's always a solution?
Agree though - nothing can be done. Or, maybe more accurately, nothing _will be_ done. Nothing _has been done_, either.
Enjoy your Bang Energy drink, /u/BangEnergyFTW! This feels a bit like embedded advertising, now that I think about it.
Don't be mentally ill
Don't be born poor
Don't get abused
Don't get raped
Don't be a victim
Wtf.
Maybe don’t feel so bad. You have no idea if many of those Gen x’ers are drowning in debt to fund their lifestyle. I’m another Gen X’er that can’t take fancy vacations either but like you can pay all my bills and don’t have expensive debt (other than a mortgage but I’m ok with that type of debt if it means I don’t need to pay rent). Instagram and other social media show the absolute material highlights - we don’t know at what cost.
However, if people act as a community, rather than desperate individuals then there is hope.
Smart people would no longer be spending their time working pointless jobs and instead could work out the things that that need intelligence and showing those who don't, then its not such a problem. People with lower IQ can still do tasks, they just can't work out processes from scratch.
I've personally had the honor of being present during the deaths of multiple of my family members and friends family. I never saw fright, just courage and acceptance.
My grandfather was concerned. Not for himself, but for his family.
My grandmother *chose* to end her dialyses. She was gone in a day, after spending the day prior having one on one meetings with all the family she could.
My friends uncle ate some food, received his last rights, gathered his family, and died peacefully.
How much death have you personally witnessed?
Location: Philippines
3 students in my school committed suicide in one academic year (this year).
Current presidencial office refuses to address even the most common issues. Inflation is rising, more people are becoming homeless, and drug abuse is still an issue. Bulakan, Bulacan is being consumed by the ocean due to rising sea levels. Temperatures keep getting higher annually. Teenage pregnancy here is more common than ever, schools might become militarized due to the government wanting to reimplement the mandatory ROTC. Everyone is addicted to social media, believing everything they see.
This country had a chance, and it blew it.
8 billion clueless morons blighting a planet.
Wow you sound like you need a users manual bro.
I agree. Posts such as the one here are the primary reason I no longer subscribe to or even frequent this sub. Climate change will become increasingly disastrous, and virtually any degree of fear, frustration, or disappointment should be expressed and received with empathy.
But misinformation, such as that posted by OP, only contributes to the problem — unsubstantiated doomsday prophecy for those participating to feel wise and superior, often to scoff at any suggestion that harm reduction might be possible. Climate change is bad enough taken as a real, unpredictable phenomenon occurring in a complex world. It’s better discussed with critical thought and willingness to learn.
This subreddit worries me. What if some decentralized, malicious conspiracy cult like QAnon evolves to incorporate climate change effects to manipulate vulnerable people and make the world much, much worse?
PS: don’t get me wrong. I think climate change will someday be the death of humanity. But this crap is… crap. You can’t just pluck numbers out of thin air. Climate change and humanity’s adaption to it is extremely unpredictable.
Worse in your subjective opinion? I think it's pretty shit already
But the transformation to zombie causes activation of the animal finding, hunting and killing genes. So clearly you are wrong about that, at least in the (very likely) zombie scenario.
I believe TikTok actively censors words like suicide or died/death; that seems to be where I first noticed that trend online.
EDIT: typo
**Location:** Canada
Winter has been whacky where I live. February in particular was a mild month, with about two weeks of spring weather before getting reasonably cold again. In fact, this March has felt more like a classic winter than February did. I regularly checked [Ventusky.com](https://Ventusky.com) and saw that Canada and Russia were the only countries with a consistently classic winter this year. The United States and Europe were particularly mild in comparison to prior years.
Otherwise homelessness is on the rise, along with substance addiction and crimes. These problems are affecting urban/suburban areas that never once had these issues. It is geographically spreading, the police response is questionable and government policies aren't resolving this issue. The news media are circulating rumors about potential vigilantism from citizens who've had enough with the rising crime. I've personally watched my birth city's Downtown deteriorate over several years, as I once commuted there for work. Corporations withdrew their head offices, some businesses have shuttered, the homelessness is more visible, people are openly doing drugs in the streets and police are sentries on the subway trains.
The situation is getting worse.
you can do all that but are disabled? I'd call you extra-abled.
That fucking CareBot.
Yeah, I really don't know what to make of all these smarmy corporate measures to direct people to a suicide hotline. I know they mean well, but it always comes off as *"go call this number and leave us alone, this is the wrong place for that stuff"*
People try to be open about their ideation because they want to connect with someone, they need to just talk and be human. But it seems like there is a new push from higher ups to shut these conversations down. Is it just liability? Idk
I have found the speed with which this stuff has become ubiquitous to be curious.
I'll probably avoid it until I'm ready to die. Also vasoconstriction sucks for me big time.
Some people turn to these drugs from despair. It sounds as though this was the case with you. I’m genuinely happy that you were able to turn your life around. It must have been a Herculean effort and you should be commended. You have my utmost respect.
But be real - some people decide to start using because it sounds like fun. And by now, everyone has seen and heard what this use can and will do to them. It’s not a mystery and shouldn’t be a surprise. So even in despair, it is still a personal choice. Same as suicide. Can we react with compassion and support for someone who is seeking a better alternative? Certainly. But to remove all personal agency from the decision to use is at once ridiculously enabling *and* disempowering. Personal responsibility is always a factor.
Edit: That said, we absolutely need to increase support and treatment programs.
If you don't think there is anything new or different about the current age then I don't understand what interests you about this subreddit. You sound defeated, and admittedly many people share that sentiment, but everything you wrote in response to me just sounds like you're justifying to yourself why none of this is worth getting 'whiny' or 'emotional' about. And that sounds profoundly unempathetic. It also highlights a clear distinction between you and anyone who has the potential to salvage this mess, because those people will be emotional if history is anything to go by
You are musically deficient.
I doubt you're going to get much traction. Usually the sub is concerned with hard nosed stories about how close collapse and the probable extinction of homo sapiens is. Today however we seem to have been overrun with ex drug abusers who in a hideous display of virtuous signaling are attempt to gain sympathy for current drug abusers.
This subject doesn't seem to have much to do with collapse and everything to do with garnering sympathy. Hopefully, the mods will see it soon.
Look, man, it's a bummer what's happening to those addicts out there on the streets. But let's face it, society has always had a way of culling the weakest among us. It's just evolution, man. Survival of the fittest. And those junkies out there, they're not exactly at the top of the food chain, if you know what I mean.
Sure, it's messed up that they're getting mixed up with this xylazine stuff, but let's be real here. They made the choice to stick that needle in their arm in the first place. They knew the risks. And now they're paying the price. It's not pretty, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I mean, we can sit here and feel sorry for them all day long, but what's that gonna do? It's not gonna bring them back from the dead. It's not gonna cure their addiction. It's just gonna make us feel better about ourselves for a little while.
So let's just accept the fact that we live in a messed up world, man. A world where people die in the streets every day and nobody bats an eye. And let's just try to focus on our own survival, because that's all that really matters in the end.
Speaking as a former addict, I cannot stress this enough:
Your brain will not make rational, good, logical choices. Addiction grips you in your entirety. You know you may die a horrible death but you don’t care because more likely than not, whatever pain you are feeling (emotional or physical or both) needs to be drowned out by your high, even if it kills you.
They are real, vulnerable people that are at the mercy of these drugs.
I’m blessed to have gotten away, but just barely. I have been clean for over two years from heavy hard drug use. My brain is finally really healing and I understand now that addiction started off as a choice and eventually became something I was a slave to.
I used to be apathetic towards addicts when I was younger because my oldest sister was/is an addict and she hurt me. Then I became one decades later. Talk about karma.
-Edited for spelling.
I had one paragraph expressing my thoughts. You had two responding to it. Where did I say a single cop making a speed zone safer could fix poverty instead? If you have something to say then just say it. Don't make up arguments that your opponents never had.
I'll only really panic when it's spreading through our beef industry and they're downplaying half a million culling of calves and cows. Either that or people start reporting a huge uptick of pets in Vet ERs.
Anything else I'm just going to treat one day at a time and prepare as such.
cool! i have to consult a doctor before getting vaccines due to complications with one of my infant immunizations so i’d have to find a way to talk to a doctor in that world but good for you
> he way fent is in everything now, Xylazine will be in all fent.
Then this problem will take care of itself very quickly.
Sounds like you aren't interested in who is actually creating these emissions as much as you just want to complain about America. Classic reddit.
I didn't say lifespans, I was talking about population. And our lifespans increased due to what you said by aid of fossil fuels.
I never asked how we get out of fossil fuels.
I think you still don't get it. We have overshot our carrying capacity (which is artificially and temporarily inflated thanks to fossil fuels, exploiting the earth's finite natural resources, mowing down forsts etc.) the population will naturally fall whether anyone wants it to or not. Calling people eco-fascists when they don't mention culling anyone but are talking about reality, is delusional.
I'm not concerned about the population being too high, where did you read this? We are talking about ecological overshoot, a fact.
Copy any pasting "take the lead" is just goofy, and ironic as you are telling people to kill themselves. No one here called for genocide, or removing people; depopulation will occur no matter what. You can not grow forever.
Location: USA
There have been 2 jumper suicides on a college campus in my area this year so far.
It's just a miniscule data point, but in an era where any talk of suicide online is quickly being censored, shushed, or painted over, where people are increasingly afraid to utter the word "suicide", opting for "unalive" instead, because they are afraid that an algorithm or moderator will ban them for talking about it, and just this weird new puritanism that is arising around subject.... people gotta realize this strange fear of discussing it is probably only going to make the issue worse.
My life was better with my loved one in it. Again, you're psychotic.
Edit: I should probably address...
>Now, I may not have the best bedside manner...
Empathy. The word for what you are lacking in is empathy.
In Philadelphia you cannot find fent without Xylazine. The way fent is in everything now, Xylazine will be in all fent. You don’t need to inject it for necrosis to start and the withdrawal is worse than heroin and fentanyl
Looks like its junkie day on the old sub. Apparently, if you know a junkie, or knew someone who died from being a junkie, or if you're a junkie yourself, you have an absolute right to pitch a fit and stop all intelligent discussion on the subject. And, then of course you get called psycho for your trouble. Or better yet, you try to talk to them as if they still have any brain cells left, and they get all weepy, whiny and call you and an even bigger psycho. lol
My comments are quite insensitive and show a lack of understanding of addiction and its complexities. Addiction is not a choice, it is a disease that affects the brain and can have a significant impact on a person's behavior and decision-making abilities. It is not a matter of being weak or strong, but rather a complex interplay of biological, psychological, and environmental factors.
Furthermore, my comment about society culling the weakest among us is highly disturbing and lacks empathy. We should not be content with a world where people die on the streets and are ignored. Instead, we should work towards creating a society that is compassionate and supportive towards those who are struggling with addiction, providing them with resources and treatment to help them overcome their disease.
What the fuck is your hobby, being a contrarian in niche subs while either voice acting as The Dude or as....a fucking wizard? Anyway.
What a bootlicking take on addiction. What a 'hippies and "urbans" ' view of who drug users are. With the clear evidence of a generation of systemic opiate prescription marketing.
I can't even start to argue against this eugenic opinion. I'm sorry to everybody who has lost somebody.
The consequences for health would be disastrous, eating animals aren’t even good for you.
Look, man, it's a bummer what's happening to those addicts out there on the streets. But let's face it, society has always had a way of culling the weakest among us. It's just evolution, man. Survival of the fittest. And those junkies out there, they're not exactly at the top of the food chain, if you know what I mean.
Sure, it's messed up that they're getting mixed up with this xylazine stuff, but let's be real here. They made the choice to stick that needle in their arm in the first place. They knew the risks. And now they're paying the price. It's not pretty, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
I mean, we can sit here and feel sorry for them all day long, but what's that gonna do? It's not gonna bring them back from the dead. It's not gonna cure their addiction. It's just gonna make us feel better about ourselves for a little while.
So let's just accept the fact that we live in a messed up world, man. A world where people die in the streets every day and nobody bats an eye. And let's just try to focus on our own survival, because that's all that really matters in the end.
Your presumptive definition of ‘past’ is ignorance.
Given your attitude towards human ingenuity and overall predicament in form of “power will never cease to be” is quite a preposterous assumption, which grounds in ignorance. Therefore, projection.
Never mind that billions are not exposed to bitcoin. Mass migration alone will in-directly kill the utopian pernicious bullshit.
I'm currently reading "Stolen Focus" by Johann Hari, and it goes into the real ways in which modern society is actively trying to take your attention away. In case you wanted a better resolution to overstimulation instead of just being told "dont do that thing".
I'm on phone on going to take your Word for it. I do really wonder if soy imports are mostly for salmon though. And we do import a lot of meat, also. And 2018 had that heatwave.
I don't think there's much import of feed for livestock on land a in a year within the norm .
Our population is still growing exponentially, but yes, that exponential growth is _predicted_ to decrease until it reaches a rate of 0% around 10 billion.
However, what continues to grow exponentially at an undiminished rate is our total consumption, and our total waste product.
We will trade all of Hilsdale for a small town's worth of people who think like you if we could.
Have you started to roam the streets,alarmed of the slightest sounds?
You’re completely right. That’s why I have taken upon myself to read a book now for hours without being distrac- Oh did you see that cute cat on TikTok?
Lol, keep living in the past then. You do you.
The world's electricity will never shut off completely everywhere all at once, and that's all that is required to keep Bitcoin working as it was designed. It's doesn't care what you think about it and is on its way to widespread adoption as the best money. Look up Gresham's law. It's inevitable.
Bomb this city and everyone in it.
Honestly, you aren't contradicting the fairly dire article, just making it worse.
And both of you forgot one thing - there will be a long time delay between the permafrost melting and the water going away. When the permafrost melts, you get a great big bog, which will take decades if not centuries to dry, if it ever does.
Two slight quibbles:
> These lands will have to go through biomass decomposition or mineralization to become agronomically fertile. This is the process of "soil growth", it takes thousands of years to get a decent layer.
This is one of the very few things that technology could fix faster, if technology still existed. The energy and raw materials are there in the permafrost, they "just" need to let out. If our technology continues to improve, in 50 years having some genetically engineered bug or plant that could break this down in decades seems quite doable.
> The soils are also very polluted, naturally and from human pollution accumulated in the last two centuries.
I don't know about the self-pollution! The human pollution thing is only going to be for a tiny portion, however: most of the world's permafrost are in areas where humans never venture, even to pollute.
None of my quibbles fix any of the issues, but tighten the case for the prosecution a bit.
If you have no idea how intersectionality works, then you should stay quiet on it. Same as how you expect people who don't know how science work to shut up.
Safety ? Oh yeah, I really tought that for some time. Not happening. We're completely fucked here, as people pretend to be "conservative" but are ok with any kind of new high-tech while not keeping the old systems that works.
And we pollute our soils the same way you do, in the most retarded way, while we know we're killing the microbiological undersoil lifeforms. But sure, do imagine I somehow have access to a special swiss bunker or that I'll eat the food we cannot produce without NPK fertilizers (that we need to import, to burn down life in the soil).
I doubt your wishes will be fullfilled. I pray for fucking chaos as soon as possible, as any other kind of lifeform besides us wouldbe so fucking thrilled to see our worthless, pathetic and sad civilization crumble if they could understand the scope of what we did.
I feel like I’m in a schizophrenic situation. I work at one of the largest corporates in Australia. I can have conversations with people all around me and fairly senior management about collapse topics and they wholeheartedly agree. Then their actions say the complete opposite - they fly around the world, eat out, hardly anyone is vegan, drive their super-expensive cars to work instead of catching public transport, lots of luxuries etc etc
These people are all mostly wealthy so the way I read the situation is they know collapse is coming but the attitude is that it’s not their problem.
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Bottom line: nothing can help (most of) us except radical structural change in the way we approach political economy.
Take your skillset and to put it to work in service of that. This includes everything from local adaptation to radical organizing to writing books and articles (although the latter aren't worth much without the former).
Part of radical political economic change includes confronting the unviability of *all* our existing and industrial-age structures. There's a lot of inventing to do, and a lot of hands needed at it. A hydrological engineering skillset won't give a person privileged insight into questions of human motivation and meaning, but it absolutely needs to be a part of collective structure-imagining and -making (in which we all learn from and with one another's domains of knowledge).
EDIT: also, congrats on being in remission! I wish you good things!!
Yeah man just do what you want, enjoy your life your health and friends and family while they’re here. Chase your dreams!
Location: USA, PNW
I can't find any energy to fight the entropy. I just wish my molecules would disassociate and return to base carbon and waters. Everything is showing the cracks and breaks in reality, but everybody still has to go do life things, and be part of the grand parade.
Every day kills all of us that much more, as we walk like zombies to a future with worse finances, worse food, worse shelter, worse social circles, worse violence, worse everything.
I just want to sleep while the arrogant buffoons keep trying to talk their way out of the crisis that keeps getting worse.
My brain, heart, spirit, and body are beyond exhausted.
At least one of these pics appear to be in the Netherlands. A lot of misinformation has been spread in favor of the farmers lately, how the government is suppressing them etc... The truth is the entire landscape has been ruined, farms and fields are everywhere you look. The manure destroys entire ecosystems. Its already too late to act.
Many died of old age. Many gave up in despair. Some were killed. Some were subverted.
Well, one and a half orders of magnitude greater anyway. :-)
It could be that only 2% of the permafrost is in immediate danger of thawing, for example...
Most of the effects of an exponentially growing humanity remind me of cancer.
> Right. The author actually didn't address that (unless I missed it).
I didn't see that either. The article was already not very optimistic, and this makes it worse.
Need to find the bugs that can eat my dead will to live.
Hydrogen peroxide foggers are becoming more widely used in hospitals for this reason.
You have a great way with words. Well put my friend.
Ass hats has got to be one of my favourite names, right up there with douche canoe!
California (drive between NorCal & Socal)
Torrential rain for weeks on end now.
Pharmacies empty, hospitals full. So what's really got so many sick despite fully vaxxed majority?
The sky is falling - MSM says it's space debris but I seen so many fleets of falling lights from hundreds of miles aparts for days on end now.
Drugs, prostitution, anon park/bathroom orgies, Car thefts, robberies, & Homeless - everywhere ; all kinds of neighborhoods urban to rural, every month seems worse; cops distracted often.
Bank runs!
What the hell? How many times are you going to spam this comment?
yeah, guerilla gardening is about creating available food for people
hours of reading later I found the comment section, lost my shit twice and found Jesus then lost him. What a wild ride
We're not even at 1.5c yet mind you and its getting bad enough already.
Anyways please you fucking imbeciles, look around you: Your money won't save you. We will all die together. Some sooner than others, but inevitably, we are all collectively fucked thanks your fucking dumbass fuckery. You already know what to do. Make a pact, do it together, and cut your losses you psychopathic narccisistic pieces of shit. Everyone dying is bad for money making. AI isn't going to be developed in time to replace all those slaves/workers you own.
Thanks,
Everyone not the ultra wealthy / ultra elite
I'm in the UK but we do share the 'fuck you I got mine' attitude.
It’s disturbing that people will still write climate change off as a “hoax” or a scam. What profit incentives are there? Big solar is gonna take your job? Your property is gonna get cleared for a wind farm? The companies that are against actual meaningful action are already taking jobs, and destroying homes to make more profit. The Oil companies and fossil fuel industry have done irreparable damage to our planet, and millions of peoples lives. Their only incentive is to make profit, they want you to support their industry and demonize renewable energy, then when you agree with them, they bend you over and destroy you again. If you truly think “climate change is a scam”, who’s telling you that? Republicans who are in the pocket of big oil? Democrats who will roll over for a fat stack of cash? “Centrists” who claim it all to be alarmism. Meanwhile the people who are actually educated enough and experienced enough to speak on the topic are silenced because they’re seen as the “academic elite” by anyone who has a bachelors degree or less. Our experts are screaming into the void, it’s too late.
They are not “telling people to stop driving cars”. *some* governments are *talking about* (ie not actually implementing) policies to encourage people to get around without driving - walkable cities, Bike lanes and public transport.
No one is coming to take your car. Stop listening to conspiracy theories.
Seems unfortunately likely. I had hoped Trump was mad enough to launch a nuclear war, but was sorely disappointed. In hindsight Hillary may have been a better bet. (not US citizen)
It pains me to quote a rat like Ben Shapiro, but honestly, facts dont care about your feelings.
Single parenthood is the single biggest factor in many many negative traits that children can develop.
'Trying to imply'
Of course Im not, Im factually stating it, single mothers produce way way more dysfunctional antisocial criminal kids than single fathers.
Almost like the nuclear family is a good thing. Who woulda thunk.
Oh yeah, that's right. Don't use toilet paper.
Spray bidet is the future: [https://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Stainless-Bathroom-Personal-Adjustable/dp/B085WW6B1X/ref=asc\_df\_B085WW6B1X?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852142347029&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451675335455&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/Handheld-Stainless-Bathroom-Personal-Adjustable/dp/B085WW6B1X/ref=asc_df_B085WW6B1X?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852142347029&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451675335455&psc=1)
Learned about this from a Vietnamese friend. Spray (the water is f-ing cold) then pat dry with a towel.
I like to have a white one, a black one and a red one. Guess which one is for which, lol.
Ffs this is pure speculation with ZERO facts
The actual "OR" there is:
*Decide who suffers:*
**Current adults, older adults.**
OR
**Current youth, babies.**
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They don't frame it as such, but that's what it means if you hash it out in terms of interests.
Current economy and *wealth* serves the interest of the current adults who are the owners and professionals in the system. The economy collapsing in the future due to climate chaos spares them now, but fucks the young generations. The final generational "fuck you, got mine".
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edit: damn, it got locked.
here's a fun chart from the AR6 synthesis report:
https://i.imgur.com/TVJfQBC.png
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/syr/figures/summary-for-policymakers/figure-spm-1
Take your own advice. Nothing you said here was informative.
Hey now I reserve the right to be emo about the fact we're all getting poisoned. This is one of the few times being an edge lord is appropriate
FYI: It's already too late, and was too late a decade ago.
Humanity still depends on fossil fuels at every stage of agriculture (tillage, irrigation, fertilizer, harvest, processing, global distribution & manufacture of essential equipment) to feed billions of people; there is no way to put a sudden stop to that.
Likewise, whatever happens in developed nations, China and India are only accelerating their economies. The atmosphere doesn't care about per-capita, only total accumulation of emissions and that is still rising.
Hey now I reserve the right to be emo about the fact we're all getting poisoned. This is one of the few times being an edge lord is appropriate
Buddy, at +2C the food chain / supply chains will be so fucked up you're only going to be eating from local gardens lol.
I agree though, the global south will be fucked before I will in Michigan. I don't drink though =P but leave my cannabis alone.
Seems unfortunately likely. I had hoped Trump was mad enough to launch a nuclear war, but was sorely disappointed. In hindsight Hillary may have been a better bet. (not US citizen)
It pains me to quote a rat like Ben Shapiro, but honestly, facts dont care about your feelings.
Single parenthood is the single biggest factor in many many negative traits that children can develop.
'Trying to imply'
Of course Im not, Im factually stating it, single mothers produce way way more dysfunctional antisocial criminal kids than single fathers.
Almost like the nuclear family is a good thing. Who woulda thunk.
I’ve personally found that the folks who decry iq as a terrible metric tend to not be the brightest themselves.
The 5 min online stuff is obviously garbage. Real tests are far and away the best metric we have, and In my experience are perfectly adequate for what they’re designed to do.
The study in the post is meaningless because it’s based on meaningless (online) tests; but I would genuinely be shocked if iq wasn’t decreasing. The people coming to age now are starting to have, more or less, lived their entire lives in a dopamine cycle online. It’s terrible.
Slow down! Have a rest! Play a game to take your mind off things: [Apocalypse Bingo](https://www.reddit.com/r/ApocalypseBingo/comments/10qotoh/apocalypse_bingo_v3)
It's like *every time* BMI is brought up as a metric and some 'well achkshully' has to tell us for the 1000x that BMI isn't accurate in bodybuilders. Yup all those fatasses actually are all muscle! If your BMI is deceptive then get a fat% test but for the majority it's a good barometer of weight and also to be used in statistical analysis.
Buddy, at +2C the food chain / supply chains will be so fucked up you're only going to be eating from local gardens lol.
I agree though, the global south will be fucked before I will in Michigan. I don't drink though =P but leave my cannabis alone.
Sure it did, could you yourself point it out what is wrong? I personally think people on this subreddit are not genuinely here to worry about collapse rather they are here because they are lusting for blood and genuinely want the Earth to die which is why everyone here just goes on in circles and when questioned, I get imbecile replies in return where supposedly "simple" comments can refute the solid logic I professed. Do people on here even question the books or resources that they are reading? Or do they readily accept it? What if it is the work of conmen? Are you happy being conned or do you genuinely believe the fix for climate change hasn't already been found? Yes, the climate changed .. but how the f can someone genuinely believe there is genuine NO ONE who is figuring it out or has already figured it out? I seriously believe people on here are just trying to skip work and adopt some kind of an anarchy where they can easily con other people while they hoard resources. Shame on such people, to be honest. Did you even ask what kind of credentials I own before writing that two simple comments pointed out everything wrong with my statement? Or do you think I am your average Redditor whose mental age is 3 or something?
I've taken master's-level classes on psychological testing and IQ tests aren't perfect, but they are sound. A legitimate IQ test has to be administered by a qualified person to be considered valid, and there is actually a variety tailored to specific populations. There are even tests tailored to people who can't speak English or who are illiterate.
There are certainly concerns with inherent bias in the test, but that's true of almost all standardized tests since a majority were created to measure Western standards. But a standardized IQ test isn't some untested internet quiz. It has undergone some pretty rigorous validation processes.
They keep telling us this shit since the 80th .I don't give a .... anymore
Most mass produced free range broilers are given ACCESS to a tiny strip of dirt outside the chicken house via little door (bare minimum to qualify for"free range" designation). Rarely if ever, do they venture outside during the 2 months of their lifespan; it's too risky (staying with the flock=safety).
It's more likely that a small farmer (I work with them) with small flocks of pasture raised broilers or layers (read: anything less than 20k birds/year for broilers, less than 10k layers the producer is considered small. Pasture raised hens are typically dispatched after 2 years when their egg production slumps) would catch avian flu from one of their chickens that comes into contact with fecal matter from infected wild birds (Ive watched blackbirds, starlings, sparrows, etc... drink from the flocks water, eat & then poop into the layer's feed troughs). That being said, the virus would have to slip through a farmer/ producer's immunities (say they just got over a bout of covid or other virus, maybe they just got over a cold they caught from their kid who caught it at school) but the small producer is one of maybe 2 other people they employ so they gotta go into work/ check on the animals despite still being under the weather/ lower immunities. So they go out to the field, say it's raining, the farmer unknowingly breathes in/ ingests aerosols or tiny water droplets in the moist air containing chicken fecal matter (there's fecal chloroform in all our bathrooms, Mythbusters found it on every tooth brush! ) Boom, farmer contracts avian flu & we're back to the pandemic races!
Source? Also no. There are the same amount of LGBT. It’s just that it was more acceptable to be yourself for awhile so ppl felt comfortable being out. Also the population is 40% more than it was when everyone hated gay ppl There is zero evidence there are more percentage of gay ppl. That is repube propaganda that you have fallen for.
I'm attempting to build out from a donor frame.
I will be stuck with an older Shimano-compatible freewheel, 26 inch wheels, the old style handlebar stem, and canti brakes. I could change that but the amount of mods you have to do to the frame to make that happen just renders it prohibitive. I can do disks but yeah that's going to suck lots getting that to happen, not worth it IMO.
My thought was even if it was a BSO, if I know how to do everything how bad can it be? And yeah it's a lot of special hand tools up front but once you have them, this is really easy...
Except.
Getting matching parts is becoming rapidly a huge pain in the ass.
Pro-tip if you're going to make your axle thread 9.5x1mm thread stop fucking calling it 3/8-26. I swear the bike industry lives to make shit confusing on purpose.
Ohhh well we call it a 26 inch wheel because when you put the King's Ding Dong tire on it and then flatten it with a frog it comes out to... fuck. Just tell me rim OD by width shut up guys...
I'm attempting to build out from a donor frame.
I will be stuck with an older Shimano-compatible freewheel, 26 inch wheels, the old style handlebar stem, and canti brakes. I could change that but the amount of mods you have to do to the frame to make that happen just renders it prohibitive. I can do disks but yeah that's going to suck lots getting that to happen, not worth it IMO.
My thought was even if it was a BSO, if I know how to do everything how bad can it be? And yeah it's a lot of special hand tools up front but once you have them, this is really easy...
Except.
Getting matching parts is becoming rapidly a huge pain in the ass.
Pro-tip if you're going to make your axle thread 9.5x1mm thread stop fucking calling it 3/8-26. I swear the bike industry lives to make shit confusing on purpose.
Ohhh well we call it a 26 inch wheel because when you put the King's Ding Dong tire on it and then flatten it with a frog it comes out to... fuck. Just tell me rim OD by width shut up guys...
Let's say every average person in the world knew about this because the scientists were able to go door to door telling them or even beam thoughts directly into their minds.
What do you think people should actually do? And the bigger question, how could they actually do it?
In 2006-2007 they could have bailed out the homeowners whose mortgages were underwater.
It would have stabilized the derivatives those mortgages were bundled sold as thus correcting the issue, but instead they bailed out the banks.
Basically said "fuck you" to regular homeowners (many of whom were approved for ARMs that were predatory).
It never seems to change.
Location - Adelaide, Australia.
Everything is shit. The increasing number of homeless people is alarming. I was at a petrol station filling up and some young guy came up to me asking for 5 bucks to buy some food - the clerk saw him and told him to fuck off or he'd call the police, the guy came sneaking up to me again behind my car and I felt bad so I tossed him a few 2 dollar coins. I went in to pay for my petrol and the clerk and a taxi driver were talking about him, they said that he doesn't want food, he just wants the money to gamble in the poker machines in the pub across the road - I have no reason to not believe them, but anyway, I can't not give people at least a bit of money if they're begging for it, as long as they aren't violent or aggressive.
All the bottle shops(liquor stores) are packed at all times, it seems like people can sense that the end is nigh, and they're just trying to pack in as much enjoyment as they can before it's too late. People are more irritable than ever, less connected etc, it's like when a dog knows it's going to die, it goes off and finds somewhere to hide, society is doing that en masse.
We deserve to go extinct
ppl become that level of wealthy by exploiting others…fuck outta here to those trying to lecture me about them being compensated according to the value they bring to society 🥴
the most valuable jobs in society are some of the most underpaid…teachers, social workers, people removing garbage…fuck outta here to the ppl on Reddit who have been lecturing me about Jeff Bezos getting compensated according to the value he brings to society…without Amazon my life would be…slightly less convenient
that is not most people and starting off is always hard, this self-defeating attitude is just funny, if you want to work and are willing to sacrifice you can live a good life. The problem is people like you as soon as you get a degree feel like the lifestyle should just start right away. Most people in America are living very good lives, you are just mad because you have not gotten there yet, if you continue to work hard it will happen but not be given to you simply cause you have a degree.
You have no idea how that works. Reality has a left-wing bias.
remember the "nothing will fundamentally change" promise that Joey B made at the beginning of his term? by that he meant to say "lol fuck y'all I'll be long dead before this shitship sinks. I'm only even up here for the free housing and helicopter rides. deuces!✌️😎"
well I **absolutely *refuse*** to be enslaved without that creature at the very least providing me a gender neutral vegan leather choker collar, with sustainably raised vegan metals. I also require a bedazzler to customize said dog collar to my liking.
you tell that dirty fuckin Glyke dragon wannabe I'm super serious, and it can fuck right off if it thinks I'll accept some old rope or a chain around my neck. i ain't the one. I'll quit. watch me!
Yes gender roles are social constructs. If you read all my comments you’ll see I, and others, said that.
I disagree that for the first time in history people aren’t being aren’t being murdered as frequently. There are several phases in history where it was far more accepted than it is now. Before Christian Puritanism for example. Greeks? Romans? Lots of cultures had ‘third genders’. If you think things are ok now you’re not looking. The gender criticals are loud over here, and supported by the far right (did you see ‘Posie Parker’ in Melbourne?). It’s scary. In the UK just a couple of weeks ago we had a transgender girl murdered by her 15 and 16 year old classmates, and a drag queen murdered in Cardiff.
No one is suggesting this is new, but if you are around young people or a parent of a young person you will see that it’s far more common now than it has been for a long time. Also if you read the science, if you look at the biology of the role of endocrine disrupters in development, specifically regarding oestrogen and androgen, it’s very hard not to think that something is happening.
If you accept that someone with non conforming gender identity or sexuality is ‘born that way’ and has not just decided to choose it, which I believe is what gay people have been arguing for decades, then that is to accept that they likely have a genetic or epigenetic difference driving a change in their biology. It’s well known that there is also a neurological aspect to gender identity, even transgenderism, with certain regions of the brain enlarged in people who feel more masculine or feminine, not necessarily correlated with their ‘biological’ sex. And yes I am aware that gender identity and sexuality are not the same but they are inextricably linked.
If that is so, and genetics or epigenetics can drive differential sex hormone expression or reception, affect the amount of hormone precursors available during development, and affect neurological physiology associated with gender identity, is it such a stretch to think that outside influences of known hormone disruptors in utero or early childhood might not be having some effect? Especially in our case, where it was in such high concentrations in our drinking water that the government tried for years to cover it up. PFAS and that family of forever chemicals are relative newcomers to the scene…bisphenol A has been doing similar for years.
Keep in mind that hormones are a massively complex area of biology…when you study it it’s actually quite mind blowing how intricate these pathways are and the far reaching implications when one tiny bit goes wrong. I remember studying the biochemistry of foetal development and wondering how on earth it ever went right at all. I’d say that if all that resulted from these chemicals being everywhere were some kids who questioned their gender identity etc we’d be doing ok, but of course that’s not the only thing. Cancer, infertility, neurological development issues, growth issues, metabolic disorders and hormone disorders…they’re all in there.
Before you accuse me of being regressive, and given that I’m parenting two kids identifying as atypical gender, one who has been hounded and bullied at school and struggled to the point of suicidal thoughts, maybe do some research. (The first two are easy to read ‘pop-science’ articles, the rest are research articles or policy documents. This is just a selection….google it if you want more. There’s a lot out there, just pay attention to the source as not all are equal.)
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7440-gender-bending-chemicals-found-to-feminise-boys/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-human-beast/201911/gender-fluidity-and-hormone-disruptors
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2019/608866/IPOL_STU(2019)608866_EN.pdf
https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/21/6/1929
https://www.epa.gov/endocrine-disruption/overview-endocrine-disruption
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6324472/
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Technically it would affect any "free range" broiler chickens since they go outside. It's the ones trapped indoors, the ones bred to grow so fast that their skeleton gives out, that are the least exposed.
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>This latest report is likely to "emphasise that time is running out for the easier solutions and the more gradual transitions to a carbon free economy", says Bonnie Waring, senior lecturer at the Grantham Institute for climate change and the environment at Imperial College London.
Extinction by procrastination
>This latest report is likely to "emphasise that time is running out for the easier solutions and the more gradual transitions to a carbon free economy", says Bonnie Waring, senior lecturer at the Grantham Institute for climate change and the environment at Imperial College London.
The important observation. Next up is the [Eocene](https://www.pnas.org/content/115/52/13288). Our species has no experience with such a climate.
>Planting more trees and protecting carbon-absorbing ecosystems is one of the most effective ways of scaling up carbon capture. But forests worldwide are shrinking at an alarming rate. According to new research, destruction of tropical forests is far outstripping the current rate of regrowth.
It's a bit ironic how this parallels the phenomenon known as Extinction Burst (psychology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_(psychology)#Burst
>The current state of the climate highlights "why it's so important that we take this seriously now", says Siegert. "We can do something about climate change now and recognise that, if we don't, things will get worse for people who come after us."
This should be worded differently, so that conservatives can understand: "We can do something about climate change now and recognise that, if we don't, there will be nobody left, and that includes your own family who will either ride incest into extinction or go out earlier with the rest."
It seems people dont realize the world on the other side of collapse has the potential to be infinitely more beautiful than this one.
Have you ever, as a kid, been walking in a public park and been deep enough into it where you could suddenly pretend youre in a totally different, completely natural world? Only to continue walking to find an edge/fence with suburbs or private property of some kind that cuts your adventure short? As a kid, this felt like an immense feeling of loss, of disappointment with the world itself, with humanity. A feeling of being considered a suspicious stranger by default. My body can only exist in very specific places or else I will be taken and locked up by a violent gang that exists everywhere on the planet called the police. Something felt wrong with "everything".
Why isnt food everywhere? Why is it only inside guarded buildings? Why isnt it right outside our homes, something as essential for life as food? Couldnt anyone boss us around and tell us what to do our whole lives insofar as we are disconnected from the earth and its food? Have you ever tasted fresh picked strawberries and noticed they taste many times better than anything that has gone through a shipping process? Wouldnt all of our food taste worse after shipping? Why do we insist on monocrops and a vast cumbersome shipping infrastructure rather than growing food right where we live? Isnt any other arrangement doomed for control, for centralized power exploiting/manipulating the populace?
A world where there was food grown everywhere.. wouldnt it be a liberation from the tyranny of slaving away for someone else in order to stay alive? Edible vegetation, *everywhere*. If the method of agricultural was regenerative, we could, as a species, reverse the damage done and even bring forth more life and beauty than was around before our arrival here.
What if people only had to spend two hours a day tending to their homes and gardens to stay alive, allowing for the other time to be spent however they wished? Carving pottery or silverware, carpentry, building their own homes, sewing their own clothing, making music, making love, writing books, writing poetry, playing games of their own designs whether intellectual or physical, exploring the realm of non-digital analogue inventions much more deeply, exploring latent human capacities more, inventing new analogue musical instruments, inventing new art forms, exploring a landscape without the notion of private property nor one with invisible behavior regulating fields everywhere called 'laws' (you can only do X kind of human activity on this particular area of earth)..
Imagine if you could explore the entire planet by foot and boat with no legal hinderances anywhere. Where you would always be able to find some shelter and warmth, because humanity has shifted to an operating paradigm of love rather than fear.
Where there was no more light pollution. You can see the beauty of the night sky again. Real physical human comminity exists again. All of your relationships shift to a real, analogue sphere of engagement rather than a faux, digital parasocial sphere..
The sounds of birds and insects returns. The sound of children laughing and playing wherever they please (dogs too), unworried about being run over by a vehicle nor where they can and cannot play. No more uber safe, uber boring designated areas called 'playgrounds' as we know them. Rather, the whole world becomes the playground. Wildlife returns, bees birds flowers trees forests.. everything that makes this place beautiful given a new opportunity to return. No more production of plastic waste and garbage in psychotic amounts. No more time spent wasted on the abject immoral slavery that is RENT. No more homelessness because private property is no longer enforced by the brute force power arm of a state. People rather COMMINICATE with each other to sort out living arrangements with the people around them, not just waving a document in front of someones face and calling the police.
Imagine if everyone decided the way that was most fun to live their lives was to contribute their own gifts to the world by adding to its beauty. If every individual had a commitment to life and love and beauty. This place would be paradise. Forget 'the breath of the wild' or 'the shire' or ancient greece or whatever, it would be unimagineably more beautiful than any of our current shoddy fictional or historical productions.
This current world is a sorry, sorry imagining. Nearly the dumbest possible arrangement we could manage, in fact.
A vision of a better world requires that humanity undergo a very rapid evolution in our emotional intelligence and general awareness,.. but that is precisely what collapse is - a catalyst for our collective evolution through a shared global trauma initiation and an undeniable demonstration (the horrors are mounting) of the failure of our beliefs and attitudes that have led us to collapse. A new belief is necessary - that human nature is essentially good. That life, existence itself, is essentially good. A new kind of faith - not in a particular god, ideology, set of beliefs, -ism or system of human managing, no.. a sheer faith in the goodness of the fact of existence itself. Of life itself. Because it exists.
Is existence a good thing or a bad thing, essentially? What say you?
The implications/extrapolations of your answer informs the core of your reality and behavior, of what you believe is possible and impossible, whether you know this or not. We must have faith in life again, in ourselves, in humans. The real collapse happened ages ago, when we lost this essential faith in life, and we have merely been playing out the consequences of this loss for all of our written history. Collapse is the culmination of our absence of faith in humanity. We either will regain it, and paradise will ensue, or we will inevitably commit species wide suicide. I believe in the former, because human beings are adaptable, resiliant, beautiful, and have been longing to love each other and reunite with their fellow brothers and sisters for a very long time now. That longing seeks fulfillment, which is fast approaching. The age of seperation has nearly reached its zenith.
Consider this: could we have ever made this world paradise from a place of faithlessness in our own species and selves? What were our expectations, exactly? Isnt it obvious that only a dystopia could be generated from a lack of faith in ourselves? We have become internal nihilists, regardless of how we may present ourselves socially.
And, inversely, what kind of world would a faith in humanity bring about? Where we essentially trusted each other and ourselves instead of essentially distrusting? This current one is based on a complete absence of faith in ourselves, and lo and behold it is collapsing and is a living hell.
We must have faith in each other and see what happens. We havent tried it for a very, very long time. No more power heirarchies, no more states, no more systems of reward and punishment, no more mass manipulation/programming projects via media or advertising, no more wage slavery, no more compulsory education, no more parenting with conditional love, no more laws upheld by threat of violent force. We need a friendship orientation with existence again, with all other life on this planet, with each other, with ourselves. A much more beautiful world will unfold once we begin to trust in life again, and such a critical mass shift is more possible than you may believe.
lol "bailout" but still no money for universal health insurance
300 billion. Every day is a slap in the face to people who need Healthcare.
because the cunt's still got a mouth
If I'm being honest, and there should be a lot of honesty here. I've been wanting chaos to happen since I first heard about what caused the 2008 financial crisis and how we bailed out these banks that quite frankly should have gone under the way it was supposed to happen. This is why I call myself a collapse accelerationist. I can't do much, probably to the relief of a lot of you, but the current system that we are in, needs to go and I'm all for the destruction of humanity, I cheered for the willow project being passed, not because I support it, but because it will accelerate our demise. I cheer on the laws against nature because I'm truly tired and republicans and some democrats want to accelerate this killing of the nation, then I'm all for it. I vote republican because I know they will do this, not because I support anything out of there racist, putrid mouths, but because Trump literally axed laws that were keeping banks in check and now we see the outcome. Banks collapsing or on the brink of collapse. If he didnt axe dodd frank (However you spell it) then we would not see a run on banks like this. I may sound delusional or crazy, but I'm just a poor man that wants to make sure that if billionaires live on, safe from the initial bloodshed and craziness of collapse, i want to make sure that they will live in bunkers and caves and not ever touch a single blade of grass again, i want their children to know what it likes to go outside and experience the hottest weather in recorded history on earth that they can't escape. Their own personal hell that all their families created because of their own personal greed. Confined inside of walls for the rest of their lives. No more natural, pure air to breath, just artificial. No more feeling water drops of your face, no more anything that brings them joy that they experience today. just wake up, eat, live inside of a confined space because it isn't safe outside anymore, then sleep only to do it all over again until they die. "At least we live on" Going from yachts and private planes to one confined space for the rest of your life sounds like you will be unaliving yourself in no time. To answer your question, no i dont want collapse to happen, but since we are on that path, might as well give these billionaires who are causing it, quite literally, HELL ON EARTH
This part you wrote (and sometimes they don’t even care about themselves either) is something that hit me at the hospital the other day. There is just a metric shitload of garbage, masks and other food trash from assholes leaving or entering this nice hospital. It’s like people are addicted to despair……they can’t care about a single fucking thing. It’s this sadness spiral. I’m cleaning this fucking lot the next time I have to go there it makes me SICK! So when people’s health is failing naturally I like to understand why, well if you can’t even be bothered to take your trash to a trash can or use reusable stuff or not eat much fast food, then forget exercise, eating well, caring about others, working well, having fun, having good relationships, being smart, etc…it’s like a blob just supported by apps, gasoline and other people’s labor at that point……some of these tlc like shows are glorifying pure sadness
“Darn the wheel of the world! Why must it continually turn over? Where is the reverse gear?” ~ Jack London
"Socialism is inevitable; because the present rotten and irrational system cannot endure; because the day is past for your man on horseback. The slaves won’t stand for it.
They are too many, and willy-nilly they’ll drag down the would-be equestrian before he gets astride. You can’t get away from them, and you’ll have to swallow the whole slave-morality. It’s not a nice mess, I’ll allow. But it’s been a-brewing and swallow it you must.” ~ Jack London
Religion, the dominion of the human mind;
Property, the dominion of human needs; and
Government, the dominion of human conduct,
represent the stronghold of man's enslavement
and all the horrors it entails.
Emma Goldman
You show me a capitalist, and I'll show you a bloodsucker. ~
Malcom X
Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies. We were rolling drunk on petroleum.
~
Kurt Vonnegut
I certainly think that another Holocaust can happen again. It did already occur; think of Cambodia, Rwanda, and Bosnia.
Miep Gies
easy to think that as a result of the extinction of the dodo, we are now sadder and wiser, but there’s a lot of evidence to suggest that we are merely sadder and better informed.~
Douglas Adams
Revolution is a serious thing, the most serious thing about a revolutionary's life. When one commits oneself to the struggle, it must be for a lifetime.” – Angela Davis
“Service to others is the rent you pay for your room here on earth.” – Shirley Chisholm
The invisible hand needs to bitch slap the billionaires.
It’s not technically “printing money” but it might as well be if you’re rich given that the whole point of QE is to artificially inflate asset prices
You have to learn how to DIY it. They'll fuck you at the drive through otherwise.
There have been instances where I had to take it to a guy but I knew the guy. Who would have thought a timing belt tensioner bearing would sound like that when it went bad?? That was... well. Interesting.
I mean. Dude. If I misdiagnose 3 fucking times and replace more than I need to I've still come out cheaper than having it done would have come out.
I'm evidently not perfectly normal.
I've done a lot of work on cars. Never a full engine swap but I'm thinking it's worth the risk to attempt to learn. I have two perfectly good chassis to experiment with and IF this works AT ALL I'm seriously considering getting a spare motor and learning how to store it.
Bluntly if I have my way I don't ever want to buy one of these fucking things ever again. As in ever. I mean my christ have you seen the prices??? The MOST I ever paid was 10k and that was IN. SANE. To me. Now you're talking 4 times that???? Fuck you, car industry. Fuck. You.
Whatever happened to the Geo Metro tell me that one.
This video was like a glimpse into the mind of a mad man. You are not well, sir.
You can leave (if the transport company will let you on) you just won’t be let in on the other side and will go into the illegal immigration limbo and probably returned home. You could travel illegally but you know you might be given better treatment by the authorities if they are worried about PR but don’t expect to be treated special because you are American. Check carefully the countries you travel to if you are LGBQT because some might seem ‘liberal’ because tourists visit them but they are dangerous.
Bird flu has been spreading worldwide, with increasing numbers of infected birds and mammals. This could be exacerbated in the coming months when migratory season begins, potentially disrupting food chains, and bringing more exposure of the virus to humans.
The worst case scenario would be that the virus adapts to better spread between humans, sparking a new epidemic/pandemic. Governments are looking into vaccinating poultry to dampen economic damage caused by mass culling.
**Credit:**
[https://twitter.com/HmpxvT/status/1637566415304638464](https://twitter.com/HmpxvT/status/1637566415304638464)
You need money to bootstrap. Without it you're stuck where you are ....until emergency comes and then you'll drop lower.
However poor you are, you can live poorer. I started out below minimum wage. While my coworkers lived in cheap housing I chose to sleep in old cars, migrant labor camps, slums, and a tent in the woods. Putting aside half my income, accumulated enough to pay my way through voc-tech school. When that failed repeated the labor/frugal/save try-again cycle.
Second attempt succeeded. Since that method works I continued living on half my income and used my growing cash reserve for surprise emergencies & opportunities. With ready cash life relaxes and moves your way; never fear being fired, always ready to accept opportunities far away.
That's reality. You either take the pain up front or it stretches out forever.
It was swapped for junkyard tranny of the same vintage.
You're not alone. I don't feel like I have a place in society anymore with how selfish and stupid the vast majority of people have revealed themselves to be. I'm going to a small live band show to support my friend tonight, haven't done anything like it in a while, and I already know I'm going to be the only person wearing a mask, and that people will look at me like I have three heads. Oh well, enjoy your brain damage is what I say to them 🤷
You misspelled shithole.
I’m in central Scotland. I got a bursary to train about £500 a month- you don’t have to pay this back. In Scotland the nursing degree takes 3 years, but you specialise from year 2. As a psychiatric nurse I don’t do a lot of medical stuff- don’t do IVs, stitches, catheters- anything medical related we send our patients to the medical hospital with a psychiatric escort.
I am trained in counselling skills and therapy- basic life support,bloods, blood pressure and diabetes monitoring, some wound care but not what a trained adult nurse could do. I’ve never attended a code or anything, but I have seen a few suicide attempts and even cut someone down who was hanging (they survived).
I couldn’t go into an er and work, I don’t have the skills. But it’s harder to get on the mental health course.
But I am trained in family therapy, violence and aggression, psychiatric pharmacology, MAPPA (for patients that have committed crimes due do being psychotic) it’s a different kind of tough
I have been nursing 5 years and earn £35000 - $42647.56. I have no debt from my nursing degree- it was free and they paid me £500 a month. It’s about average wage for Scotland.
Location: Rural Midwestern USA
So...local fire department shared a post on Facebook that was quite harrowing and depressing. Basically, they're having trouble finding new blood to hire and the volunteer departments are quickly becoming extinct. Apparently, ~20 years ago you had so many guys eager to be a firefighter that it was basically competitive, and now they can hardly scrape together enough people for one shift, as the older guys age out. I'm not sure why I needed this written in black and white for me to catch it...my dad and grandfather were both firefighters, and even when I was kid, the department *was* larger. Ironically, they just set a record last year for most calls ever...so this is not a good mix, for anyone.
The police department is having a similarly hard time hiring, but we all know there's a lot more to that. I will say it's kind of surprising because in an area like this, 80% of your crime is gonna be meth and petty theft related, and it pays significantly more than most jobs in town. To my knowledge, no cop has ever been killed or seriously injured here.
This all goes back to the same point, that collapse has basically already commenced for rural America. I can't claim to know how things are in the cities, but small towns like mine are on their last leg. Businesses have closed in the past 5 years and stayed empty, there is essentially no community left in any sense of the word, there's nothing to do and no way to meet people, and now even "essential workers" are becoming rare.
The post on FB I mentioned made a good point, that the "someone else will do it" mentality is quickly becoming false. If *you* think to do it, you probably should, because it's honestly not too likely someone else will. I figured this out after months of walking past the same litter...no one else is gonna pick it up if I don't, apparently. No one else cares about helping the multitude of stray cats, save for one or two other women. No one cares about rejuvenating this community either and breathing life into the town, let alone *serving* their community. It's a pretty somber state of affairs.
This is going to a hot take but I feel like my generation wasn't brought up to serve their community. I was born in '99 and still don't know if I'm a baby millennial or an old Gen Z, but either way, it seems to me like even today's preteens are more receptive to helping others than the average early 20-something. The vast majority of people I know taking time out of their day for volunteering and bettering the community are 60+.
You'll get bulldozed, and apparently you won't even see it coming.
Corporations are above all else, organizations of people. They are better at organizing than you are, or else the current status quo wouldn't exist. They know more than you do about advertisement and propaganda to convince people who *should* take your side that they need to help the corporation instead. They'll break any rules you think you and people like you will enforce, knowing that they can get get away with it.
There are only two forces that have demonstrated the ability, in the real world, to even potentially balance commerce, government and religion. And even their ability to balance it is being strained. Eliminate them from the equation and you will not be freed, you will be enslaved, because the only remaining center of power is immune to any opposition you're capable of.
Wishing you were born rich doesn't do you any good. Either take what you have and build on it or stay the way you are.
If you don't change you'll have the majority as company.
edit: sp
2023 called to tell you you're full of shit
Easy, you die
I'm with you on the natural gas thing, but nuclear is actually quite an amazing power source. Reactors of old /= what's possible. I think we discovered an incredibly powerful energy source but our tech kinda sucked at the time. New reactors are meltdown proof and the waste can be managed to only be radioactive for a few hundred years.
Definitely shit luck. The problem with used is you have no idea how the previous drivers used it, especially if they “do their own maintenance”.
Guess where the pfas are at! In ALL teflon pans of anykind!~*~*~*
Edit: i replaced all my teflon with steel and i avoid aluminum anything as well, the particles leach into your food and arent good for you over the decades. Always remember kids: acidic foods like tomatoe based anything makes things leach, so once done cooking put the food in a glass storage tupperware of some kind instead of keeping it in the original cookware.
>material conditions
Stopped reading right there. I’m sick of communism. And the militant campaign of denial of simple truths. Because if simple truth is the biggest enemy to this ideology, either rationality tells you to drop it, or it can only continue to be enforced further by way of denying truths.
They'll just restrict the rights of women again before it gets to that point. (ETA: I mean this around the world, not specific to China).
Recall, recall, recall
Don't fuck with your brain. It ain't worth it.
Not until they make the jump to humans. Imagine deer shitting in cornfields, as they do all over the Midwest, and your cornflakes turn your brain into Swiss cheese.
Don't you think it's a bit of a jump to claim that lower average IQ scores will lead to lower innovation. I mean those are extremely different things
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This is why I drive a car from 2003 that's dirt cheap to insure.
And Ocean dead zones tend to emit Nitrous Oxide.. the laughing gas .. which is a strong greenhouse gas. Fun times!!
Just because math doesn’t constitute the entire umbrella of intelligence doesn’t mean math doesn’t fall under it/intelligence. Otherwise would be a denial.
As soon as you mentioned intersectionality I stopped reading. That stuff is just bad faith, subversive nonsense.
I need help understanding the problem with the cartoon I submitted. It's funny; it's more of a political cartoon regarding climate change, endangered species and the oil companies, with a humorous twist. Climate change is leading us to Collapse, right? I am new to posting to Reddit, so it may be some tech reason I don't understand, but that said, I would like the cartoon posted. Thank you.
One of my favourite science fiction novels, Timescape, is set in the far-off future of 1998, when things are starting to fall apart, and toxic blooms threaten the entire ocean food chain.
From Timescape (Gregory Benford, 1980)
*”Things are that bad?”
“Seems so. That large diatom bloom off the South American coast, Atlantic side, appears to be expanding out of control.”
“Bloom?”
“Biologist’s word. It means the phytoplankton are coming to terms with the chlorinated hydrocarbons we’ve been using in fertilizer. But there’s something more to this one. The technical people are scrambling to find out how this case differs from the earlier, smaller effects on the ocean food chain.”*
This is a huge issue. No doubt.
But we need to consider other issues at hand. Like how many construction workers on a job in a POC neighborhood are white. We got some bigger issues here!
Besides, this is nothing that a strongly worded note from Trans Sec won't clear up. Look at what a similar letter did to whip the airlines into shape!
Honestly, I'm just trying to run the clock down. Hope things hold together for long enough that I either die from natural causes or I'm far enough into my own decline (physical, mental, etc) that I'm ready to pull the plug.
Yes, I know that sounds shitty. But it's also the truth. I see this as a predicament rather than a problem to be solved. Thus the focus is on postponement and adaption. Evil has won and has pulled up the ladder behind them.
Accordingly, I have no children and have been surgically sterilized. I encourage others to do the same.
Thank you for your elucidating explanation.
To a considerable extent, I concur with your sentiment. Social and emotional intelligence, though somewhat intangible, undeniably exists. The inability to quantify an emergent quality does not serve as evidence of its non-existence. Empaths, for instance, can attest to this phenomenon - that there is a palpable energy that is perceivable when one enters a room filled with people. This sensation is exceedingly challenging to articulate, let alone quantify; nevertheless, the qualia of what it is like is tangible.
This leads me to your other excellent argument that the youth of today are, by a in order of magnitude, more cognizant of history than any preceding generation. Such vast exposure to information can either impede or promote the development of empathy, depending on how one assimilates, attributes, and balances the information. Some argue that acquisition of information outpaced acquisition on wisdom.
Be that as it may, we must be prudent here once we introduce social media into the dialogue.\
It is evident that individualism has triumphed. Nietzsche's assertion that "God is dead", which he made centuries ago, is now unmistakable and evident. Nietzsche's proclamation manifests itself in the rising rates of suicide, depression, anxiety, nihilism, toxicity, and even feminism, which is now posing a danger to itself.\
Intimacy and sacredness, I submit, are absent from the way of life. Mysticism, that once enriched our lives, has been explicated to a point of rude nakedness. It has been commodified, accommodated, and ridiculed. That which gave us meaning and a sense of spirituality and divinity—I am not talking religion here—has been made explicit.
I contend that we have forfeited both emotional and analytical intelligence in our pursuit of mechanical sophistication. The average person now spends more time indoors than in nature, which is rapidly being eroded to keep that very person indoors for longer.\
Some individuals, such as Ben Shapiro, are regarded as sages, despite espousing seemingly sophisticated nonsense. Andrew Tate, on the other hand, is a very astute sophist who appeals to ethos over logos and argues from the pathos. This approach is quite toxic. Donald Trump and the entire political arena, to use as closing point and as an example, which is no longer functioning, do not exemplify intelligence to me.
Anyway…
Get blue swimming crabs, they're a bitch to pick but the best. They also used to be sub $1/lbs live and now it's more like $4. If you really want a treat I can't recommend anything better than Charleston She-Crab soup if you get a roe bearing female. I'm serious, before you check out or the crabs do you need to really grok what we lost.
When minor interest rate fluctuations is all it takes to fundamentally disrupt the stability of the economy, its time to abandon that economic mode. There is no more profitability left in the system. If we properly priced in the externalities of damage this profit driven system creates, nothing would be affordable.
Capitalism needs to die.
I think you're right. Such a large explosion of a previously rare phenomenon makes a physiological explanation plausible. While I'm sure there have always been people who are ace or trans due to normal human variation, to see this big increase in such a short period of time is deeply suspicious.
I have read that trans people have a higher incidence of mental illness, which IMO probably points to problems in brain development, especially those parts that relate to forming a mental identity.
I spoke to trans friend about the concept of 'knowing' you are the opposite gender from your physical sex. Personally, I've never 'felt' like a woman, but more like a person who happens to have a female body. So I was curious, what's it like to have that sort of internal knowledge to the point of needing to change your body to match. Their response to my question was a bit alarming. They more or less said they don't feel like a human being, much less a man, therefore they must be a woman. This made me think about how they have a strong family history of schizophrenia. Actually, their parents were in the military as well.
Obviously, not all trans people have that sort of situation, but I think it is an example of how the issue of trans identity is complex. Endocrine disruptors such as PFAS chemicals just make it more complicated.
Since you're aware of the possibility that your children are the way they are due to factors out of their control, I imagine it makes it very easy to accept them.
For families that are ignorant of that possibility and attribute it to a freely chosen 'sinful' lifestyle, it can cause a great deal of family conflict, rejection, homelessness, mental illness and suicide. What will those parents that judged and rejected their trans children feel, if and when it is someday revealed that PFAS and other pollutants caused such a thing?
Life seems extremely tragic all around. Under these circumstances, compassion and acceptance is the only sensible choice.
I read this a Pussy Bankas for a moment
It was realistic though. It's more about the human condition in the face of the collapse. It was boring, but imo it's gonna be a slow and brutal collapse
Genuinely how do you people think this shit can continue forever? You realize eternal zero interest rates and constantly printing money would actually fucking kill capitalism? Like this isn't an actual solution to the system hitting its hard limits, there ain't more road to kick that can down.
My best suggestion to you is to read a book once in awhile. Expand beyond your own narrow views about human nature.
IQ is meaningless to be fair
Burn bitch burn!
need those feathers for all the women being busted weekly for pretending to be indigenous.
with search at your finger tips no need to use wide swaths of your brain anymore
While it definitely has felt grim lately, it is important to remember the role that publishing bias plays in feeling like this. It’s not necessarily that the incidence rate of these things is rising, as it could also be the rising prevalence of media surrounding these issues. Just because you hear more about something doesn’t mean there is more of that thing.
This isn’t to say that something isn’t happening, but rather to acknowledge confounding factors that might skew our opinions.
Edit: if we do not acknowledge things publication and recency bias, we might spend our time thinking about and fixing problems that aren’t actually problems.
Depressed as shit the last two days, so maybe I'll let loose and be offensive.
It's Covid destroying synapses and brain cells. If you don't know that by now, wow...
Also, I like all the people saying that IQ tests are bullshit. They should go one further and say that differences in intelligence are socially constructed, like gender.
I predict Covid damage in children will lead to higher levels of learning disabilities, especially ADHD since it affects attention and memory so much. Once those kids reach their teens, I wonder if a higher percentage will develop schizophrenia also? We're going to need those asylums for the 'mentally feeble' and criminally insane again. (Not sure if I'm being sarcastic or not now...)
Today me and my friend tried to run the numbers on how much it would cost the feds to buy every American two N95's a month. (We both suck at math, so who knows if the numbers are right or not, lol.) It was about 1/300 of the federal budget, so me and my friend said, "They're cheap assholes! We gonna die and get Long Covid because they don't give a shit!" But I couldn't leave it alone and said, "Wait, what if they can't make that many N95's?" So, then I looked up 3M's annual production and the last figures were from 2021, triple what it was in 2019. 2021's total was like 1/7 of what it would have to be to give every American those masks. Then we lay back and said, "We have the money, but the masks don't exist. No wonder they won't tell the people that masks work and could prevent Long Covid. Nobody's coming to rescue us. Ignorance was bliss." Then we gave up on math and talked about the insane weather.
Lol, we're sooooooo fucked.
You need to get out and socialize, try finding a job, even if it's a shitty one. After you get some experience you can apply for a better job.
Sitting around worrying about things that happened in the past is not good for you. Tons of people have gone to university/college and never got a job in what they studied. You need to get out of your rut.
When though?
If it's coming sooner than expected why isn't anyone preparing? Why are people still going to work and school? Why are we sending our kids off to college and happy when they graduate if the world will be an uninhabitable, bleak place in "the near future"?
That's what doesn't make sense. You'd think everything would come to a screeching halt and people would adopt different ways to start adapting.
Why isn't everyone running to the banks and selling off the houses? Why are new cars still being bought?
You people make it seem like the end is near. Yet no one cares.
wear a mask, is my point,I didn't mention vaccines. wear a mask.
your "mild case" spreads and kills someone else. do you care?
for a few months the vaccines were a very good assist to other forms of mitigation and could have stemmed the tide, but selfish assholes won't give a damn about other people, and rich nations wouldn't share, so now we've got variants that aren't even slowed down by the vaccines.
wear a mask, killer.
"What do you get when you cross destruction of the middle class with environmental toxins? I'll tell you what you get. You get what you fucking deserve!"
"out of nothing"
your egotism really makes you underappreciate how much can be done that we havent thought of yet. AGAIN, the point of AI is that it could become SMARTER than us,process things faster, learn quicker, build things you wouldnt have thought of or dont have the tools for ....yet.
in the year i dunno 1021, or 1300, do you think they could imagine or actually create hundreds of millions of handheld devices that allowed you to call different points via different circuitry and waves and communicate information back and forth instantaneously with the tools and materials they had on hand? ofc not. the same idea.
yea that they dont get this is kind of like...incomprehensible to me. the very basic concept of tech is that it advances through time
I think you're right. Such a large explosion of a previously rare phenomenon makes a physiological explanation plausible. While I'm sure there have always been people who are ace or trans due to normal human variation, to see this big increase in such a short period of time is deeply suspicious.
I have read that trans people have a higher incidence of mental illness, which IMO probably points to problems in brain development, especially those parts that relate to forming a mental identity.
I spoke to trans friend about the concept of 'knowing' you are the opposite gender from your physical sex. Personally, I've never 'felt' like a woman, but more like a person who happens to have a female body. So I was curious, what's it like to have that sort of internal knowledge to the point of needing to change your body to match. Their response to my question was a bit alarming. They more or less said they don't feel like a human being, much less a man, therefore they must be a woman. This made me think about how they have a strong family history of schizophrenia. Actually, their parents were in the military as well.
Obviously, not all trans people have that sort of situation, but I think it is an example of how the issue of trans identity is complex. Endocrine disruptors such as PFAS chemicals just make it more complicated.
Since you're aware of the possibility that your children are the way they are due to factors out of their control, I imagine it makes it very easy to accept them.
For families that are ignorant of that possibility and attribute it to a freely chosen 'sinful' lifestyle, it can cause a great deal of family conflict, rejection, homelessness, mental illness and suicide. What will those parents that judged and rejected their trans children feel, if and when it is someday revealed that PFAS and other pollutants caused such a thing?
Life seems extremely tragic all around. Under these circumstances, compassion and acceptance is the only sensible choice.
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Maybe before the 2010s, as the 2010s extremely deranged politically incorrect spaces were dominant on the Internet. The dominant "normie" space like reddit at least has some moderation but becomes bad when it pigeonholes people into group thinking.
As for stimulation, definitely get off the internet and work with art, crafts, music, cooking, gardening, and hiking. And if your state and country permits it, cannabis enhances the experience or do it without still net benefit from this. Do it with a friend or family member if possible.
Still stimulating to look at this subreddit in short bursts to see thoughtful analysis.
Yeah, I figured as much. But it's not just math and it's not just good old days. There was probably less diversity in mainstream discourse 100 years ago (1920s to the 90s) -- than now. Mainstream media being as centralized as it was.
This broadening was allowed by the golden age of internet was 1980s to 2010s. All a variety of opinions and less centralized and less politically correct. But now that the masses moved from Usenet and individually run forums to central spots like reddit and facebook, we're getting the same old narrow Overton windows again controlled from the top down.
It was disheartening to see it in my lifetime. From bootlicking normies controlling the room to a wonderful broad discussion back to bootlicking normies back in control. Bootlicking in this case refers to those who defer to higher ups in their decisions to guide and censor discussion. It's really hard to use reddit now knowing what it was 15 years ago. It feels like an empty shell of itself, before Condé Nast exuded control.
In the early 00s, in the free software movement, we referred to such environements as the cathedral vs the bazaar although it's also apt socially.
Eh, I guess I'm rambling now.
Location: Earth
The entities which are running the simulations which include the one for life on Earth gave me an assignment. Go to Earth and report on the situation.
It doesn't take a lot of time to figure out that humans are destroying themselves and the ecosystems they depend upon. That's pretty evident. But why are they doing it ?
The code for the Earth simulation involves the concept of fixed resources and death. With fixed resources, death is advantageous for evolutionary purposes and recycling of resources. Occasionally the simulators threw in events like meteors to shake things up when they wanted a wholesale shakeup of things.
Recently, the simulators threw in a wrinkle called awareness in humans. And when humans discovered death, they didn't know how to handle it. The simulators also threw in the desire to avoid death as part of the design. That avoidance morphed into fear and some clever humans figured out how to organize entire societies based around that fear. They convinced people that they could live forever if they simply did what the clever people told them to do and believed what the clever people told them to believe.
The simulators have provided some people like the buddha who have provided a path out of the fear. But the clever people who like controlling others have found ways to keep people living in fear.
In fact, the clever people running the show are the most fearful people of all. Their compulsion to control things is the ultimate expression of fearing their death.
The key to life continuing on earth is letting go of the fear of death. Embracing the rules of the simulation will allow it to go on. Fighting the rules is the route to extinction. Humans would do well to abandon the fear inducing Abrahamic religions which are so out of step with their continuity.
You're going to die. Don't be afraid. Enjoy life.
Honestly, I'm not entirely sold that this is as bad of a negative as some might think. Granted it depends on the level of the drop and stuff but, IQ is a flawed metric that seriously needs revision.
I'm more concerned about EQ levels and what, to me at least, seems to be a decline in compassion, empathy, and sympathy and the rise of apathy, hostility and indifference.
It doesn't matter how high the average IQ of a nation is if all of those people are only concerned about themselves and would gladly shove those around them under the bus to improve themselves.
I've never had to use MLA *since* college.
I bet you could spend 15 minutes on Wikipedia and find 20 things your teachers know absolutely nothing about.
It does have other implications it’s bullshit. The definition of an accelerationist is a person who purposely does things like voting the worst choice into office or committing acts of terror to accelerate the demise of the world system. People like you and I just want to get on with the collapse of civilization because it’s happening faster and faster but the government is knowing just dragging it out so that they stay rich as long as possible before it all hits the fan.
I enjoyed it because it shows how ignorant and arrogant the human species is. The billionaire who got played about the casino imo is a good representation if the corporate mindset.
I only got to watch the first episode. Looks great so far, very *collapse oriented*. Just found the other two episodes. Going to ignore your post until later.
People actively want to be dumb these days because they associate it with being sexy
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lol \*hugs\*
**Location: France, Paris area**
**Social:**
So the goverment finally bypassed the parliament vote with a "49.3" (a law addendum) concerning the retirement pensions law, thus validating the fact that we'll have to work longer, women will have less (except childless workaholics who started working at 18yo) because they are the ones who stop working to raise the kids.
So I've been staying away from the mess for my own mental health, but the expected hours long upheaval happened in the Assemblée Nationale (people's representatives' chamber of the parliament), the opposition is screaming that this is a "denial of democracy", there are spontaneous manifestations of discontent all over France (small crowds gathering, few dustbins burning, few smashing of front windows of businesses and banks that symbolise greediness for some, and then anti-riot police canalising all this), and new calls to "bring France to a halt" (hasn't happened yet, in stark contrast of 1995 when there was *ZERO* public transport running in all of the Paris area and effective road blocks by all the trucking companies all over France in key places, for over 2 months.)
But there's a sense of a pressure cooker about to explode in the air. Maybe the real strike is about to start.
But what makes me especially uneasy is when you lsiten to the opposition, the way they talk, the words they use, you understand in filigran that what they want is to stir a revolution and overtake the goverment. And people seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that all revolutions are followed by years of terror during which people are murdered in thousands, including amongst the factions that allowed the revolution to happen.
**Climate change awareness:**
The weather forecast on the public channels is now called "weather and climate bulletin" and every weather forecast is now linked to an explanation of how climate change is impacting the weather w'll be experiencing the following days, like "because of the CO2 levels in the air, we'll be experiencing a warmer 5-10 days, than we'd typically would've at this lattitude".
I find this amazing, fucking *amazing*, a daily lesson on climate change and weird weather patterns! I hope other channels will follow suit.
**Cost of life:**
Shoplifting is on the rise, it makes national news regularly. Shops now have to put antitheft devices on food items, such as meat, and regular hygiene products like deodorant.
My local shop has managed to noticeably have much less different choices per type of item (like my favourite sliced bread brand is gone from the shelves, mid-range in price), thus allocating one line of shelves for the products that used to take up 3 lines of shelves, and I legit cannot see any holes or empty slots anywhere. Am impressed by the skills they gained in masking the disparition of all those other products they used to sell. What breaks my heart is it's mainly the products for families with kids that are disapearing (cereal, sliced bread, jam, powdered hot chocolate, ...).
Also noticed they are now selling the "best by date" products that have gone by the date. With a price reduction, but still, until recently, I had never seen them being sold. They'de be ferried away to a charity instead.
Definitely signs of impoverishment.
ETA : Have started guerilla gardening around the city - store bought seed-bombs of flowers for bees so far. About to make my own seedbombs with leftover seeds from edibles (chinese brocoli, squash, various herbs and salads). Any tips or good source of info welcome.
Check out the r/GuerrillaGardening subreddit if you haven't already. Lots of good info there.
SS: A group of psychologists, two from Northwestern University and the third from the University of Oregon, has found via online testing that IQ scores in the U.S. may be dropping for the first time in nearly a century. In their paper published in the journal Intelligence, Elizabeth Dworak, William Revelle and David Condon describe analyzing the results of online IQ tests taken by volunteers over the years 2006 to 2018.
This relates to collapse showing how epigenetics is causing young people to have lowered intelligence. This affects society because we will have fewer innovations. Could it be caused by toxins in our food/water, culture or lack of education?
“Those savages lived here for 10,000 years and never developed open pit mines or industrial slaughterhouses, what a bunch of losers.”
all of you are uninformed and behind the times.
I think that you saying the end of the world will be lame is tone deaf and stupid.
Capitalism can fuck right off, but I think the problem just runs so much deeper than that. I always like to point out that we humans have been doing a fantastic job of killing off the planet for millennia. This isn’t something new.
The lion went extinct in Asia Minor during the Roman Empire. Most of Britain was deforested by the year 1000, had almost no timber by 1600, and had switched over to coal by 1700. 25 genera of land mammals, such as Harrington’s mountain goat and the Shasta ground sloth all went extinct around the same time, roughly 10,000 years ago, the same time the Clovis culture began to appear in North America.
Sure, we’ve gotten a hell of a lot more efficient at killing off our fellow beasts and the earth we share with them, but don’t get it twisted. The fossil records show that essentially, once enough humans take root somewhere, well, death and devastation follows. We were doing this even before we invented civilization *but* civilization made the devastation more effective. Same with the Industrial Revolution. I believe it’s in our nature as apex predators. I think that the nature of intelligent life is to destroy itself. We seek two things: we wish to dominate each other and life/the planet in general and we seek to make life nice and comfy cozy.
So, I just don’t know that we ever will live in harmony with nature again. Because the last time we did that was impossibly long ago… the moment we stopped being “animals” was the moment it was all over, I think.
that takes years for them to produce fruit, and they would get cut down after only weeks in urban areas.
Import? The poverty and illiteracy is home grown, baby
It pains me to quote a rat like Ben Shapiro, but honestly, facts dont care about your feelings.
Single parenthood is the single biggest factor in many many negative traits that children can develop.
'Trying to imply'
Of course Im not, Im factually stating it, single mothers produce way way more dysfunctional antisocial criminal kids than single fathers.
Almost like the nuclear family is a good thing. Who woulda thunk.
Is 1961 the year they started recording temperatures, or did they in fact experience hotter heatwaves in 1961 compared to now?
>They will keep finding ways of making a corpse technically live
This is valid. I spent 6 years as an auto medical adjuster in a state with unlimited medical benefits for auto accidents at the time, so hospitals knew the bills would be paid. It was truly unbelievable how many medical procedures and surgeries were done on people with injuries that had no realistic hope of recovery or were incompatible with any type of meaningful recovery.
You could leave half your brains on the side of the road or have cerebral swelling to the point your brain was literally oozing out of your skull and they'd still have an orthopedic surgeon pin your fractures or amputate a damaged limb and there was another $60-100,000 bill.
Sometimes people were left on life support for weeks in the ICU until all of the family could fly in to say goodbye. People who were literally brain dead using tens of thousands of dollars in resources a day for absolutely no reason but to make the family feel better.
It was one of the most insane things I had ever seen.
Eh, some people just hate having to deal with survival threats and an office job at the same time. So at least in a collapse the office job goes away and there’s only one demand is the though process. But there’s no light switch, just a slow descent.
Example 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/10lt5a6/the_collapse_is_happening_one_class_at_a_time/
hmmm we routinely use rats as an equivalent for drug testing, reinforcement studies etc. The phrase "lab rat"- there must be SOME equivalency. Some of the implication of the rats' behavior is around population based evo-psychological behaviors that are provoked in response to overpopulation. basically, the individual can sense that there are too many individuals in a space: in response, it stops engaging in pro-social or sexually-multiplying behaviors like pursuing females and protecting offspring. By decreasing behaviors which further their lineage, they are altruistically succumbing to an evolutionary impulse which is actually beneficial to the overall population long term: ie, reducing the population at hand. Reducing the particular population's numbers is in fact making for longevity and is evolutionarily advantageous to the population as a whole- libido reduction, non-pursual of females, dismissal of offspring, cannibalism etc. It might seem counter intuitive to evolution's imperative to "multiply and be fruitful" until you realize that overpopulation leads to scarcity and starvation and there's no evolutionary benefit to that overpopulation anyway once theyve pushed past ideal population numbers. This all indicates that species have an inborn sensitivity to population changes and specifically to environmental/localized overpopulation which is disincentivized against.
Just another example of how nature balances itself.
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
HAHAHAHAHA
(I'll believe it when I see it)
There used to be special rooms where the kids in a school with severe behavioral issues were sent more or less to fail. This was before my time, but from what I've heard they weren't pleasant or pretty. This was deemed too bad to continue, so they just took all those kids and threw them in gen ed classrooms. They also instituted all positivity based consequences.
As an example. Last year I had a kid in a long term gig I was working (I'm still a sub working toward being a proper teacher) who was always acting out majorly. This was a third grade classroom. One day he called a girl in the class a fucking bitch and hit another kid with some keys on a lanyard and left a welt. I sent him to the office. The result was that he was put into a program for kids who misbehaved where they went and did art projects and got treats like candy or cookies. They got to leave class to do these meetings (as opposed to having them during lunch or recess or some other time where it might take something away from the student that they wanted... you know... a consequence) and then they got to come back with their toy they made and some candy that they then lorded over the other students while they just continued to misbehave. It was absurd.
the ppl i know who do it here in florida do it anywhere and everywhere theres an empty space. we have a lot of good calm weather and a lot of homeless who tend to sleep unperturbed in those areas too. It's sad to see homeless but also nice to see them living in the sun, on grass etc and not abused as opposed to what i saw growing up in NYC
i would think perennials because they create more food for longer; quick growing food like leafy greens as opposed to bushes or small trees (which are also likely to get cut down), so there's a shorter amount of time it takes to actually grow and become available to others. also ROOTS!!! potatoes , sunchokes, yams, sweet potaoes, peanuts carrots turnips etc, as they can hide better and produce a lot of high-calorie food fast. not as amenable to herbicides aboveground, theyll keep growing below.
also, things that grow like weeds: DANDELIONS! green onions, scallions, grasses like lemongrass and wheatgrass which are not high calorie but grow like crazy.
Imagine being so out of touch that you think $85k in household income equates to individual salaries when most millennials are now in their 30-40s and married with kids. Imagine thinking that's enough to pay down student loans, save for retirement, and purchase $800k starter homes that boomers bought for $50k while holding jobs that required little to no education. No shit the younger generations have more income, they're still working. And if they're living outside of high cost urban areas, they're making nowhere near $85k on average.
\>> People might tell you to use natives, but cities are artificial environments. Planting edibles so that people can forage is a good idea.
this
hey fellow comrade, i would LOVE to help you here in florida except i've learned i'm horrible at gardening. Guerrilla gardening is literally my favorite thing; I think it's inarguably the most revolutionary, best thing we can all do to change society. It's just, Im not any good at it!!
hey comrade, can we DO something to help the people get out? a gofundme or something?
>I mostly try not to think about what will happen in the next few decades.
Given this and all of the rest of the above comment, avoiding r/collapse might be in the best interest of your mental health.
sure but if we're talking specifically about pollution, rather than the morality of a society, that is simply not true. The moral underpinnings of massive greed and complexifying , socially constructed needs, he might be right that humans have been shitballs for just EVER.
source: Anthropology degree.
ANY OF YOU FUCKING PRICKS STOP WORKING, I'M GONNA EVICT EVERY MOTHERFUCKING LAST ONE OF YA.
This is why I'm actually against illegal immigration, it allows a system where people are taken advantage of by the owning class, they deserve to live out of the shadows, they are the literal definition of a cheap and expendable workforce.
is it?
have you ever climbed it?
or just believed the stories of others
i don't even think it will happen. You see how the TPTB/ Elites will do ANYTHING (mostly, adding debt balances therefore increasing taxes and inflation which affects us more than them) rather than letting the system fall. If Collapse happens at all it will be because us proles eventually get so oppressed we just blow up the whole system and they can't uphold it anymore. Which is unlikely
I agree with you as an American labor-rights Socialist; personally? I think his advisors are reading the room and know the Democratic establishment- viciously hated - will keep losing unless they take some real stances.
You can see where the true entrenched power cores lie however; look at what he hasnt addressed- election reform and workers' rights!
That's really where it's at.
hey comrade, can we DO something to help the people get out? a gofundme or something?
yeah surprised? not
the best is when you overdraw by $3 but only because the bank sent something through at the last minute incorrectly making it look as if you are overdrawn although two hours ago you weren't and your balance sheet says you're not so now you owe then $3 + $35, plus the next charge since you didn't know you were overdrawn BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT adds another $35 so now it's -$73, then your monthly fee goes though and it's another $15 plus $35 cuz you couldnt pay that so now it's $123 you owe, then seven years later you get an email that youre part of a class action lawsuit whereby your bank was purposely sending through charges in order to deduct fees from poor people knowingly, as a business pattern: your recompense is $27.
THE WORST was People's Choice Bank, they took an entire paycheck and I couldn't pay for food.
fintech and credit unions all the way, kiddos.
Think about it: who gains and who loses from distributing and absorbing those costs across the system via inflation, rising costs etc? Obviously we lose as it affects us, not them. They (the 1%, or !5 OF the 1% if you wish) dgaf if their Hamptons vacation costs $12000 or $18000. WE do. Our vacations become fewer; out grocery store items are now $78 rather than $63 which means we cant buy our kid that new jacket he needs QUITE yet because of how that money adds up. They are fucking US by these policies and their mistakes; yet if WE make the SLIGHTEST mistake it's YOU'RE FIRED. IMMEDIATELY. "At-will" employment.
Who set the system up this way? THEY DID. The politicians, the lobbyists, the lawyers, all passing the money between them in making these laws and policies and leaving us out.
I agree. I'm just sort of dunking on the Venus By Thursday crowd.
Eh, some people just hate having to deal with survival threats and an office job at the same time. So at least in a collapse the office job goes away and there’s only one demand is the though process. But there’s no light switch, just a slow descent.
Example 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/10lt5a6/the_collapse_is_happening_one_class_at_a_time/
I don’t know what the point of this comment is. None of those people were the ones I was talking about.
With all due respectful if you think humans re going to make the Earth better with its advanced technology then surely you have ignored history in cases in which it did not happen (For example European settlers with their advance tech oppressing Native Americans ) . Humans are too selfish and too destructive for a peaceful human society to ever exist. Power corrupts . And total power totally corrupts .
We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!
We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”
Plastic… asshole.
George Carlin. This is what the great George Carlin has said .
That's... A word salad of work to say the GOP are the source of all problems.
The places that need water are far from Canada. I’m not sure New England and New York and Michigan are going to help Arizona and Texas take your water.
> I may be wrong here but isn't this in the Emerald Triangle area?
Just to the east of it, on the other side of the Mendocino National Forrest.
Having lived in Mendocino County... the rural areas are poor. When the black market was larger and more active, well, that money didn't get taxed. It did flow into the communities, however. (The joke in Ukiah was that the typical car purchase was a new Subaru bought with a crumpled brown bag of hundreds that smelled like weed, ha ha.) Now, more money does get channeled into taxes, but some of that goes to the state's coffers... Poverty just seems to be a theme of daily life in such places.
While I take your point about the region being hostile to law enforcement... as mentioned in the article, the folks in Rancho Tehama are concerned because they had a mass shooting a few years ago, so the idea of lackluster police response leaves them feeling vulnerable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancho_Tehama_shootings
(This response is aimed at Americans and may not apply if you do not live here)
Yep and it's sus because some of the most popular prepper channels on yt always cast the east in this great light mentioning how nice their cities are, and how we live in a dilapidated crap hole. If I were let's say China, I would infect the west with negativity and doubt via social, slowly dividing America through literal brainwashing. I think the best thing for everyone is to get the fuck off of social. It's most likely bought and paid for by our enemies. Just like all the pretender "leaders" running our country. The fact that people are so apathetic is a sure sign that they are brainwashed. I love humans man. I love America. I would fight for my home and my countryman. Many others feel the same. It's just people lost sight of what it means to be American. It means sticking together even when we disagree. Fighting tooth and nail to ensure our right to differing opinions, and ways of life. All the attacks on free speech, all the propaganda, all the division, it's an intellectual contagion that's spreading. Germany did the same thing to Russia in WW1. And they ended up with stalinism. Our country is fucked up that's for sure, but not for the obvious reasons touted in the news. We're fucked up because we have no love for ourselves, and thus cannot love one another. Personal responsibility has become this nebulous ever increasing bubble of rules, and BS. We've lost our ability to forgive others of their mistakes. America is walking a tight rope and our enemies are casting stones from every direction. Instead of helping one another Americans simply join in casting stones because it's what's trendy. Not realizing that if America falls we all go down with it. A house divided WILL NOT stand.
Knowing the truth about what's coming can make one bitter. I used to be someone full of hope until I looked at the bigger picture. Now I'm just cynical
I'm in this camp! Capitalism can fuck right off, along with all the ills that come with it. Nature is resilient *buuut* not if all of the flora and fauna go extinct. Humans need to realize we're only sharing this planet with all of the other species, and even the resources we need for actual survival are finite.
found the Zeihan jerkers!
Things like, the fact that only single women with kid(s) can get into a subsidized apartment. Other very low income and disabled people are shit out of luck. Think about that. They deliberately restrict the building of low-income housing so that if you're a disenfranchised young woman, you have no choice to pop out a kid in order to obtain a place to live. And then pop out another in 5 years when your tanf runs out. I have a relative that did this. Single moms have access to all sorts of programs that other poor people don't. Like work training programs that will pay you for 40 hours of work when you only worked 36. They get all sorts of help that others don't in addition to the tax breaks. It's seriously fucked up but I don't blame them. What else can you do when wages are too low to support yourself and your family is conservative and won't let you live with them after you turn 18 ? Who coerce you into not getting an abortion when you get knocked up? Who never taught you about birth control or forbade it? Who actively cultivate a culture of suffering and misery? There are families out there that still expect their daughters to marry when then turn 18 or soon after so because the parents "don't want them to be my problem anymore." And if you have a choice between an abusive man, and being single with benefits, you're going to choose being single. Oh lord, I dread what will happen to all these poor women when Republicans go after these programs and the coercion takes on a whole new level of evil.
>do it in public so that the audience may learn something.
First day on the internet? Lol .. you think people will learn just because you do it in public? Just ask Al Gore or Greta. You can't be more public than a oscar, can you?
What did I just read? No literally, I’m not sure. But I AM “proficient.”
The average person is affected by climate change all the time! What planet are you living on? You didn't notice the record breaking heat waves? The unprecedented atmospheric rivers?
Location: USA, lower 48 states, east of the Rocky Mountains
I've noticed that sometimes when I'm watching TV, the programming will cut out for a moment or so and the screen will go black, no sound or anything, and then a little while later it'll cut into something else like a commercial. It's not just my TV, as I've noticed this happen on multiple TVs in multiple locations. There will be someone talking or part of a movie or a show being played and then all of a sudden it stops for a few moments before picking up a few moments later into the programming so you miss whatever would have happened or been shown in the few seconds it was down.
My internet connection seems to freeze up more often lately. Even if I'm just using my phone while I'm out somewhere, sometimes I'll completely lose internet connection anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes at a time. I have Netflix and lately I've noticed it lags a lot more than it used to.
The weather continues to be bizarre and hard to predict, with weather forecasts being much less accurate than I remember them being a few years ago or even a few months ago. The local forecast for my area might call for sunshine all day but then 20 minutes later it'll start pouring rain. The humidity levels have been all over the place too. Some days it'll be so damp and humid I have to change clothes if I go outside for more than a few minutes, other days it'll be so dry I feel thirsty no matter how much water I try to drink and wake up in the middle of the night feeling like I'm choking and my eyelids feel stuck together and my nose feels so dry it feels like it's burning.
Even people I know who live in other parts of the country and who aren't collapse-aware (I don't know anyone in real life who's collapse aware, which is not too much of a surprise,) have been commenting on how strange the weather's been lately. My mother, who leans more conservative, admitted that she thinks climate change is real-she's always been somewhat concerned about the environment but she doesn't like to mention it all too much since she it's the one thing she thinks republicans handle poorly and she doesn't want to be lumped in with democrats for caring about the environment. I'd argue democrats don't really give a shit about the environment either but that's a topic for another time.
People drive terribly, lots of people barely pay attention to anything or anyone else on the road, like they're in their own world where nobody else even exists. Lots of people's cars look more run-down too and I live in a decent area, not in an economically depressed inner city or out in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere. Food prices and availability are really hit or miss, sometimes you find things that are affordable and decent, other times stuff's expensive as hell and the quality is shit. For some reason, potatoes are the worst in terms of quality, they all go bad in less than a week, it's gotten to the point where I only buy potatoes if I plan on using them within about 3 days or less because they all start getting moldy and sprouting eyes after that. Sweet potatoes seem to last a bit longer than regular potatoes but both of them are definitely worse quality than they were a few months ago, and then they were already worse quality than they were pre-pandemic.
I went to the pharmacy a few days ago to pick up some medication and there were three pharmacists behind the counter, more than I've ever seen since the start of the pandemic, but only one of them was wearing a mask. I did see another customer in an N95 though, which is pretty rare. One of the pharmacists was also coughing so I tried to get the hell out of there as quickly as possible. Luckily, I was able to get my stuff and leave in about 10 minutes, usually it takes a bit longer as there's usually long lines to pick up prescriptions there. In general, when I go out in public for any reason, I always hear at least a few people coughing or sniffling. It's kind of gross and I never heard that on a regular basis before the pandemic, just a few times in doctor's offices or hospitals and that's it.
In the meantime, I've been doing my best to try to reflect on ways I can improve my coping skills and my resiliency in case things take a turn for the worse, because I always feel like something worse has the potential to come around the corner and just because it gives me something constructive to do and provides a useful way to occupy myself when my thoughts take a dark turn. I probably wouldn't last too long in a full blown collapse scenario, but I'd at least like to prepare so that my exit would be as least painful as possible and that hopefully, I could at least find some way to give my friends and loved ones a fighting chance before I go. Stay safe and healthy, folks, it's a crazy world out there and there's no telling what's in store in the future.
I want different to happen.
If I had my way we'd go full Star Trek luxury space communism. There'd be space, so enough room. And it's Star Trek so energy comes from our magical rectums. And it's communism. And everyone is happy except the Klingons but let's face it those guys fucked up when they committed deicide. And then the aliens came and had their way with them and now they have permanent PTSD disguised as too much T, good for you guys go fuck off and do it at home then.
But in all seriousness, yes, that's what I want. Luxury space communism. I thought that was supposed to be what we were shooting for. Wow was I naive.
Do I want the current system to end? Yes. Yes I do. To be replaced by absolute chaos or invasion by another country that lacks our fine sensibilities about prejudice against "others"? No, I'm not (quite) that stupid.
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Homelessness has gotten really bad in the areas where it was already a problem, and it's beginning to move towards some of the suburban areas for the first time. Violent crime has been increasing rapidly for several years, and rent prices are climbing weekly. Our roads aren't in great shape, and I swear every person I've encountered for months is in full hopeless NPC mode, there's just a vibe around town of despair.
I am going to take as much money as I can from the boomers, good luck retiring
Meanwhile I'm rooting for collapse so I can just die already and not have to put up with this insanity any longer lol.
Yes - many Democrats attempt to fix this every year. Every year their bills are blocked constantly by the Republicans, many of which wouldn't be in power at all if the Senate wasn't purposely skewered to give them power through disproportionate representation based on landmass and gerrymandering.
Did you know that from 2016 to 2020 Democrats introduced 16 separate bills to help shore up election security? Republicans, who controlled the Senate, refused to even look at seven of them, and immediately voted all the others down - only to immediately turn around and publicly exclaim that elections weren't secure and Trump won election(which they knew was a lie). Simply astounding hypocrisy - but they know they will get away with it because people like you will simply explain that both sides are the same.
yet they want to raise the retirement age.
Republicans do, yes. This is one of my least favorite things about this subreddit by far - very few people here are even mildly politically educated.
>This is, well, misinformed at best and neoliberal propaganda at best.
What a great way to start a conversation. I'm sure you're very mature.
>Do not confuse democrats and progressives.
I'm... Not. Hence why I used the two terms instead of putting them under one umbrella term. Nice try though. Try reading better, or not purposely framing someone's statements in a way that allows you to more easily attack them. I'm sure that works on dumber people.
>Democrats are capitalists
You can be a progressive capitalist, it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.
>At the end of the day, on the rare occasion something does come to vote that could seriously harm the rich or corporations, democrats and republicans magically get along.
This is demonstrably, factually wrong and you are politically uneducated. You can go back and look at vote records yourself, you realize that right? Or just not have the memory of a goldfish, and remember some of the important bills of the last 2 years.
>The only difference between democrats and republicans is the propaganda they use to get their voters in line
Lmao, Jesus fucking Christ you're ignorant. Enjoy your alternate made up reality. I won't waste any more time here.
Just so you know, you're actively helping fascists take over our nation by carrying water for them. I suspect you're doing it on purpose and pretending to be ignorant.
>I'm no fan of cops but that's kind of silly.
For real. The mob would actually protect you.
The cops will take your tax dollars, then they'll fucking beat and shoot you.
You should have a read of an article about this written by The Guardian. I've highlighted some snippets for you. Emphasis in bold is mine. To be fair, your comment can be read two ways. So apologies if I misinterpreted your meaning. I take your comment as meaning there is no bailout.
>Cash-short banks have borrowed about $300bn from the Federal Reserve in the past week, the central bank announced on Thursday.
>Nearly half the money – $143bn – went to holding companies for two major banks that failed over the past week, Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank
>The holding companies for the two failed banks were set up by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), which has taken over both banks. The money they **borrowed** was used **to pay their uninsured depositors with bonds owned by both banks posted as collateral.The FDIC has guaranteed the repayment of the loans**, the Fed said.
>Michael Feroli, an economist at JPMorgan Chase, said in a research note that **the Fed’s assistance is, so far, about half what it was during the financial crisis** 15 years ago.
>As the Fed steadily raised its benchmark interest rate, **yields on longer-term treasury and other bonds rose**. That, in turn, **reduced the value of the lower-yielding treasury bonds**
In other words, The FDIC has set up holding companies for failed banks, posted low yielding bonds those failed banks hold as collateral and borrowed the money from the federal reserve to cover the depositors.
The Federal Reserve really only has two ways to fund these loans that doesn't involve taxpayer revenue. 1. Quantitative Easing (Money printing), 2. The sale of higher yielding long term bonds.
Both of these sources indirectly fall on the public to pay. QE produces higher inflation and issuing bonds requires the Fed to produce whatever the yield % is for those bonds at maturity. In the future to cover the long term bond yields, the fed will either use QE or sell further bonds to cover the interest on the original bonds loaned to the FDIC holding companies. Kicking the can down the road so to speak.
In other words, when they say it isn't a bailout they are correct by technicality only. Bailouts rescue the underlying company. This does not as it pays the depositors instead. It is however a bailout for the depositors that's being indirectly funded through higher inflation in the immediate term.
The lower yielding collateral bonds will eventually cover the cost, but not before higher inflation has its lb of flesh.
Saying the American taxpayer will not fund it is only half true. It's true that current tax revenue will not pay for it. People that pay taxes will ultimately pay for it with higher inflation though.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/16/cash-strapped-banks-have-borrowed-300bn-from-the-fed-this-past-week
Nothing will ever change until you adress the Loxodonta in the room.
I dont use the word 'buzzwords' often, but when the shoe fits. Grow up, at least mentally.
Oh right we can’t let the poors go free can we?
Do you want to be a slave for a long time or want a flash of light end it all before your brain can process what happened?
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We will all be Sea Peoples seeing as they were climate refugees.
Bro I hate them both. You’re just being a partisan hack with your comments like the one I responded to. The problem is capitalism, which both parties jack off to
Because you lack basic empathy?
Aliens are honestly the only thing that would make me reevaluate.
Fuck you I won't retire when you tell me, fuck you I won't retire when you tell me, FUCK YOU I WONT RETIRE WHEN YOU TELL ME!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!
French are professional rioters
You misspelled American oligarchical duopoly system.
I skim read this as culling 21 people at first and thought damn that’s hardcore
What I want has become irrelevant at this point. We have past the point of no return and the system dynamics have taken over. Collapse is inevitable.
That said, I want to mitigate the pain and suffering that the collapse will cause. Be that on a household, community, or global level. Individual actions still do matter.
Would give me an excuse to take a few days off work.
No, I can easily say that I do not want millions if not billions of people, including myself, to suffer, starve, etc.
Yes, the system we exist in is dystopic, but that doesn't mean I want the destruction of society on a global scale.
Unless you're a construction contractor or a rancher digging post holes every day, you have no need of a pickup truck.
Look at the pickup drivers in the adjoining lanes. Do they look like they fit either category?
if the economy needs to eat my grandma, them the economy doesn't deserve to survive.
I was wondering the same. Hey mods.
It's not really that his stances are surprising, it's just that popular media and online discourse have been heavily biased against him as being "old, white, boring, out-of-touch, clueless, centrist", etc. A lot of that was politically strategic messaging by the Right, and some of the "if I can't have my perfect candidate then fuck you" Left as well. He's actually pretty much being the person that he ran his campaign promising; people just didn't expect him to be serious, or thought he was lying to pander for votes.
Lol 😆 you have no idea what you're talking about starting wages are where you're at up to 100k depending on the role and then rent easily takes most of it even if you just get a studio you thats half before taxes on the lower end . Then there's city county and state sales tax on anything you want to buy and don't forget the dine in tax and the tolls every time you want to leave or come in student debt and every thing is just more expensive in the bay area and this is above higher california prices and this isn't between jobs its a bank collapse through no fault of their own they're faced with not only job loss but the potential loss of any money they had if they also banked svb
Fuck you DeSantis!
I'm going to continue to pump kids out just to spite you.
Funny you should make this post, I've just finished the specialisation chapter of Tainters book and it reminded me of my school year.
Only a handful of us didn't go to university and those of us who didn't, many went on to do blue collar work, be it machinists like myself, or plasterers, plumbers, brickies etc.
We have ended up being far more skilled and productive than most of those who went to uni who now work behind a bar, work in warehouses and call centres, not the field they specialised in.
The writing really is on the wall and I fear that if you aren't really interested in this subject you have no idea what's coming down the pipe.
So um, why the *fuck* do you think that AI which is programmed and controlled by those same sociopaths wouldn't emulate those same sociopathic characteristics? Like do you *actually think* AI can be "democratized"? What exactly were you smoking when you wrote this?
SS: Banks are allowed to lend out money they don't have, and then get bailed out by taxpayers when they fail due to their own greed and mismanagement. No bank executives ever go to prison for this. Meanwhile, they hit consumers with countless fees and penalties for every little thing and will take your property if you can't pay back your loans. The whole thing is a scam. The public doesn't seem to care enough to demand change and politicians are owned by banks, so this will continue.
This is related to collapse because a new viral spread, H9N2, instead of H9N1, could be a new vector that leads to spread between animals and humans or lead to a greater culling of chicken stocks, which would further reduce available food stuffs, placing more pressure on people when food prices are already rising due to inflation and accelerate collapse of communities, especially poorer communities.
Disallowing overdrafts can be worse. Banks with this predatory practise often have a worse one, where if you have no overdraft, you'll get slapped with a large fee for returned direct debits. And if it's a transaction that cannot be stopped, e.g. paying for fuel, they'll force you into overdraft anyway. And charge you for the privilege.
Ask me how I know all this.
Having an overdraft, even a small one that you never intend to use, can be a better buffer than having a hard zero line.
Having banks that are "too big to fail" but that are also private instead of government-owned is fucking retarded. It's basically putting the structure of society in the hands of profit-seeking morons rather than something a bit more controlled and directed.
This is one area where China excels relative to the USA. Any institution there that is even remotely tied to the overall integrity of the society/economy is basically government-owned or managed.
“If these banks go down, the economy gonna take a hit too and so is your job security” The economy can eat my ass and if you want me to worry about job security, than dont gut it in the first place
Are you really so aware if you think you can control how your kid ends up?
It's a scummy practice, but in my case if I go and put the charm on with my local chase bank teller they usually find me some sort of workaround.
Just make a post or ask for it under a popular post or maybe ask it in this weekly map posts? There should be enough of us web developers here in this sub. It's easy to do it for a web dev, don't waste your time trying to be one. I don't have time to do it btw.
thanks for this but, i studied anthropology and know a bit about population genetics. Not sure what you mean "doesnt yield trustworthy results"- is that another way of saying "these are two separate, very different but equally successful evolutionary approaches"?
Comparing different populations of different species is a gambit if ever there was one.
Yes. Things have gotten better in Venezuela. Venezuela was more in the news around the 2018-19 unrest. Maduro has made a bit of a recovery and is in an even better position after Columbia elected a left-wing government and normalized relations. Venezuela's oil sector has also picked up since Russian gas was sanctioned heavily.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombia-venezuela-sign-deal-revive-trade-2023-02-16/
https://www.mintpressnews.com/jorge-arreaza-venezuela-sanctions-post-petro-economic-plan/279083/
Edit https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Chevrons-Plan-To-Nearly-Double-Its-Oil-Exports-From-Venezuela.html
>I think its more about non smokers punching down than actually citing anything useful.
It was one dude saying one thing, as an analogy. Christ you're eager to be a victim aren't you?
>I may as well kill myself."
"We can help"
-the poor with guillotines and pitchforks ready
Call it pessimism or whatever, but humans are stupid and \*\*racist.\*\* No
matter what liberals might say, people tend to favor their own race, and
to discriminate against those of a different race or ethnicity. Then
you have this impostor and charlatan called Marx, who invents the
specious idea that class struggle is the fundamental thing, not
something more primitive (and harder to accept) such as racial conflict.
Marx and his predecessors, like the encyclopedists in France, hated
kings and aristocracies and they needed the people to do their dirty
work. So they made up lies to smear mud on the names of monarchs (who
are usually better than "democracies"), and these lies are the basis for
Marxist theory. I recommend reading about the Counter-Enlightenment.
It's not that they don't worry. They don't but they really do because they are the ones chasing the ball and think there's nothing they can do so we should just accept it. What's the worst that can happen. Lol your whole life is a lie. We need to be shouting till we are blue in the face, Sad but true explaining to loved ones what's happening. But we need to do it. So they all mutter. My family always try shut me up but I care for ma mum gran and 2 young brother and sister. To not let them watch new fallow smoking mirrors.
But rule number ONE. keep exposing the elite pedos AND TRY AND MAKE PEOPLE SEE. GOD BLESS EVERYONE HOPE. There is a big change soon, or I'm going to become a beast and take one or two high ups and all nonces till 20ft under.
FT.NWO. FREE PALESTINE. FREEDOM FOR ALL. DONT BEND OVER GROW A PAIR AND REALLY EXPRESS THE FUCK YOU. THAT YOU FEEL. Every last one Is pure evil we need to all get spiritual and love everyone. Rastas know they stuff. Change your diet to if you have space grow that beautiful garden. Nothing but cancer everywhere.
And if you live in uk, stop paying gas electricity and council tax.... they can suck me plumbs if they think I'm gonna do anything after they crashed the stocks. POWER TO THE PEOPLE ! Love and peace friend's.
How is the pollution absurd?
I would be willing to bet money you already know that a virus with a legitimate 50% mortality rate would have 99% of the vaccine hesitant population lining up for a vaccine regardless of the vaccine's safety profile, even if they wouldn't do it for a virus with a much lower IFR (supposedly .09% for anyone under 65 but the data could be different now). But the karma from getting this Reddit consensus aligned dig in is just too good to pass up, eh?
Edit: om nom nom more downvotes pls. Why did the other guy get more downvotes than me? Not fair.
Self insured is the way to go when you have no mortgage (requires ins.) And only third party auto ins. when is all you need and have no loans. General rule of thumb for a happy life... never incur any debts and always live below your means, get rid of boob tubes, shun fast foods etc. :)
>**Continued - The Long Emergency: Surviving the Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-First Century, James Howard Kunstler (2005)**
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>Suburbia has a tragic destiny. More than half the U.S. population lives in it. The economy of recent decades is based largely on the build ing and servicing of it. And the whole system will not operate without liberal and reliable supplies of cheap oil and natural gas. Suburbia is going to lose its value catastrophically as it loses its utility. People who made bad choices and invested the bulk of their life savings in high-priced suburban houses will be in trouble. They ill be stuck with houses in unfavorable locations —surrounded by similar dysfunctional artifacts of sprawl—and if they are lucky enough to sell them at all, they will only create an identical set of tragic problems for some greater fool of a buyer. Even fantastic bargains will end up being no bargain. The loss of hallucinated wealth will be stupendous and the disruption of accustomed suburban logistics will be a nightmare for those stuck there. Perhaps a greater question is this: Will the collapse of suburbia as a viable mode of living tear the nation apart, both socially and politically?
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>The psychology of previous investment implies that enormous political efforts will be undertaken to shore up the illusion that Americans can continue to live in the built environment into which we have sunk our national life savings. Unfortunately, no amount of political legerdemain will keep suburbia running. The ensuing disappointment, hardship, and social turmoil may lead to any of several unappetizing outcomes.
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>Scapegoating is one possibility, blaming various ethnic, racial, or cultural groups for the "problem." This is a very common human behavior in the face of social stress and it could get very ugly, resulting in the persecution or killing of people. It could be undertaken in a political climate of anarchy or under government sponsorship, though I reiterate my point that the post-peak oil predicament is liable to render big government dysfunctional and impotent. I would be more concerned about what might hap pen on the local and regional levels, and I will discuss that later. Military aggression against other nations is another probability, essentially resource wars, and these are already under way. How long the United States can keep it up is a big question mark.
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>Exhausting resource wars would only accelerate the plummeting standards of living in the United States and speed the loss of legitimacy of the national government. If large numbers of people cannot unload their suburban McHouses and McMansions, then sooner or later many of these buildings will simply be abandoned, or become the slums of the future. I don't think the transition will be long. Lawlessness may make the continuation of life in the dysfunctional shell of suburbia extra-difficult. The national chain stores will be dead. The supermarkets will not be operating. None of the accustomed large-scale systems we depended on for the goods of daily life will be operating as they did, if at all. It is hard to conceive of any kind of social reorganization that might overcome the practical limitations of the suburban development pattern minus the fuel needed to run it. Many people may try to hang on there, but their lives may be Hobbesian. Where suburbanites might go otherwise is a very good question.
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>In the Long Emergency, the focus of society will have to return to the town or small city and its supporting agricultural hinterland. Those towns and small cities will have to be a lot denser. Most of the towns and small cities of America are in a coma today. The luckier ones, which are generally tourist towns, have had a residue of boutique commerce barely holding the downtown buildings together. Typically, though, downtown buildings in small towns are unoccupied above the ground floors because the landlords will not invest in expensive renovation under strict building codes while new, cheap suburban-style garden apartments pop up on the fringe. The unluckier small towns of our nation —and they are the majority—lie in various stages of dereliction and ruin, their industry gone, their populations aged or idle, the infrastructure rotting. Even solid brick buildings fall apart in a few years when they are not inhabited. Once the roof leaks, all bets are off
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>The people who lived in the small industrial towns of America one hundred years ago never would have believed what became of these places at the turn of the new millennium. The desolation and loss would have been inconceivable to a people who had done such a fine job of building communities. Even from the closer vantage point of 1950, the destruction has been incredible —as though World War II had been fought in Schenectady, New York, rather than Bastogne. Tragically, the destruction was all the result of economic suicide, of bad decisions made for bad reasons, by people grown too complacent and greedy to care much about the future.
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>In the Long Emergency, there will be a tremendous cultural reaction to the epic carelessness of those generations responsible. Their legacy will be looked on not with nostalgia, but with contempt and amazement. The psychosocial infrastructure of our communities is going to alsochange a great deal. One of the basic confusions inherent to the suburban experiment was the idea that people could live an urban life in the rural setting. The Long Emergency will revise that. People who live in rural areas, or resettle there, must prepare to lead rural lives and followrural vocations. That means food production, farming. Those who live in towns, even small towns, will work at activities appropriate to the town: trade, education, medicine, and so forth. The distinction between town and country will be much less ambiguous. There will be no more twenty-six-mile drives to the Super Wal-Mart or the vet.
If you do follow up on /u/tsyhanka's recommendations, then go with *Geography of Nowhere* \- it's richer in context, and it is genuinely a classic. If you're looking for more contemporary, "actionable" material, then Daniel Lerch's [*Post Carbon Cities: Planning for Energy and Climate Uncertainty (free link here)*](https://www.postcarbon.org/publications/post-carbon-cities/) is a good first start.
Anyways, the above still works well with one of Strong Towns' most fundamental theses: that there is no future in the car-dependent suburbs of America, because they are already financially insolvent in the long run as maintenance costs far exceed tax revenues. This includes where the "suburban subsidy" already takes place - AKA, when an urban system's "productive" areas subsidizes the infrastructure of those areas that cannot pay for themselves.
Suburbs are a failed experiment that will become the impoverished hinterlands of the future, as our cheap energy bonanza comes to an end (*transportation must always be considered with housing*), and the value of compact nodal land use development will allow for the succession of those places that prepared for such a future.
The future lies in urban areas able to support themselves either through their economies of scale (compactness), the viability of their hinterlands, favoured locations (including those *less* affected by climate change) and precious resources, existing transportation network connections (usually by water), and through trade surplus, just like history tells us. In sum, the future of the *urban* looks a lot like its ancient past - *but there is no historical analogue for suburbia.*
"I have to downgrade from a Gulfstream IV to a Gulfstream III. Oh, the humanity of this injustice! I may as well kill myself."
-The wealthy, probably.