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September 25, 2022 01:00:54
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Plastination is the eternal death of you and your brainCreating a statue of anyone or taking a photo of anyone is very very different from the big chance of bringing him back alive in the future. The current "Plastination is so cool" trend creates just a dead statue, and imo it means a sure eternal death of you and your brain. Reviving the actual you and your brain in the future should be the goal. Not creating dead photos and statues. Hope we can discuss this. Thank you all Plastination is the eternal death of you and your brain
September 24, 2022 11:43:04
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September 24, 2022 11:42:05
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cryonics & exploitation...and the fear
September 24, 2022 11:40:52
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September 24, 2022 11:38:35
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September 24, 2022 11:37:48
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September 24, 2022 11:37:27
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The idea that a researcher - or any person - can't be successful or achieve their goals because they "have a drinking habit" is completely ridiculous. Many people come home from work every single day and drink to relax. That's a personal choice, and none of your business. You are not qualified to diagnose alcoholism. This is a personal character attack disguised as social commentary. You always surprise me by stooping to new lows, and you don't deserve to be allowed to post here anymore. > We have to ask ourselves if cryonics leaders are more interested in growing a movement ...or more interested in exploiting us for money. Rule 3 and rule 4 being broken at the same time. AGAIN. Moderators! Wake up! Do your damn jobs!
September 24, 2022 11:37:14
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Mods, can we just ban this guy. He doesn’t contribute anything
September 23, 2022 08:34:46
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Aubrey de Grey special guest on perpetual life video...at about 1 hr 7 mins..it don't get get no better than this...lol
September 22, 2022 12:46:16
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Multiple cryoprotectant toxicity model for vitrification solution optimization [2022, Higgins lab]
September 22, 2022 11:41:47
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September 22, 2022 11:40:03
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The Spring Of Cryobiology: One Enabling Technology That Will Help Build The New Industry Of The Future[https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexzhavoronkov/2022/09/22/the-spring-of-cryobiology-one-enabling-technology-that-will-help-build-the-new-industry-of-the-future/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexzhavoronkov/2022/09/22/the-spring-of-cryobiology-one-enabling-technology-that-will-help-build-the-new-industry-of-the-future/)
September 22, 2022 05:39:59
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EBF's Biostasis2022.com (Oct 21 to 23)Quick summary of the [event](https://biostasis2022.com). They are offering free tickets for the live stream: Tickets: [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/biostasis2022-tickets-370487296477](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/biostasis2022-tickets-370487296477) * [Agenda](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/biostasis2022-conference-agenda) * Interview with some Speakers: * [Aschwin de Wolf](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/biostasis-2022-conference-speaker-aschwin-de-wolf) * [Roman Bauer](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/biostasis-2022-conference-speaker-roman-bauer) * [Peter Tsolakides](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/biostasis-2022-speaker-peter-tsolakides) Is there anyone going?
September 22, 2022 05:39:36
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Transhumanism, Cambridge Encyclopedia of Anthropology [by Abou Farman, Sep 2022]
September 21, 2022 09:17:07
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Tim Urban and Auren Hoffman discuss some of Tim’s biggest ideas around technology, including cryonics, life extension, and artificial superintelligence [Podcast link]
September 21, 2022 09:15:23
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Tim Urban and Auren Hoffman discuss some of Tim’s biggest ideas around technology, including cryonics, life extension, and artificial superintelligence [Podcast link]
September 21, 2022 08:35:19
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Aubrey De Grey Announces New Foundation!!!!
September 20, 2022 13:22:48
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2022 Annual General Meeting of the Cryonics Institute, recorded Sunday, September 11, 2022 in Clinton Township, MI. [2 hour, 14 minute video]
September 19, 2022 21:00:25
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Where in the brain is the "afterlife module" located? Show me on a CT scan. I am SO sick of your pseudoscience garbage. This entire post is a violation of Rule 3. YouTube videos are not scientific citations. It blows my mind that you are still allowed to post here, the moderators must be completely out to lunch.
September 19, 2022 21:00:02
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cryonics and modularity of mindmodularity of mind is an evopsych concept that I find very appealing because we see it all over the animal kingdom...we know that Man evolved from far more primitive creatures, and we can see modularity in those animals all the time...e.g., there is video of an owl that when presented with a man's hairy head, will automatically begin grooming the hair... similarly, if you present a bird with a fake baby bird with open mouth. the bird will feed it...animal minds are composed of separate modules to do certain functions...and primate minds were built on the minds of earlier animal species, and so the human mind is built upon a more primitive form of animal mind...all of course built upon the modular model...a module for fighting, eating, mating, raising children, being a friend etc... mind modules function on an unconscious level...they are not activated consciously... also, for humans, we have a module for dealing with what happens after we die...this is an important module because it helps us deal with death anxiety...and in order to do that, this module seems to shut down logical thinking to some degree...this is apparently done in order to facilitate the delusional state of mind necessary to maintain belief in whatever religious afterlife scenario the culture offers... so when a human has to deal with ideas related to death, the afterlife module is activated, and logic and rationality are suppressed... this is probably why normal people cannot understand cryonics...because the afterlife module prevents them from understanding the logic of cryonics.. here is some professor explaining mind modularity.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUv8HVGLbHc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3z338yB4n1A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modularity_of_mind
September 19, 2022 21:00:01
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cryonics and modularity of mindmodularity of mind is an evopsych concept that I find very appealing because we see it all over the animal kingdom...we know that Man evolved from far more primitive creatures, and we can see modularity in those animals all the time...e.g., there is video of an owl that when presented with a man's hairy head, will automatically begin grooming the hair... similarly, if you present a bird with a fake baby bird with open mouth. the bird will feed it...animal minds are composed of separate modules to do certain functions...and primate minds were built on the minds of earlier animal species, and so the human mind is built upon a more primitive form of animal mind...all of course built upon the modular model...a module for fighting, eating, mating, raising children, being a friend etc... mind modules function on an unconscious level...they are not activated consciously... also, for humans, we have a module for dealing with what happens after we die...this is an important module because it helps us deal with death anxiety...and in order to do that, this module seems to shut down logical thinking to some degree...this is apparently done in order to facilitate the delusional state of mind necessary to maintain belief in whatever religious afterlife scenario the culture offers... so when a human has to deal with ideas related to death, the afterlife module is activated, and logic and rationality are suppressed... this is probably why normal people cannot understand cryonics...because the afterlife module prevents them from understanding the logic of cryonics.. here is some professor explaining mind modularity.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUv8HVGLbHc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3z338yB4n1A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modularity_of_mind
September 19, 2022 20:59:59
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cryonics and modularity of mindmodularity of mind is an evopsych concept that I find very appealing because we see it all over the animal kingdom...we know that Man evolved from far more primitive creatures, and we can see modularity in those animals all the time...e.g., there is video of an owl that when presented with a man's hairy head, will automatically begin grooming the hair... similarly, if you present a bird with a fake baby bird with open mouth. the bird will feed it...animal minds are composed of separate modules to do certain functions...and primate minds were built on the minds of earlier animal species, and so the human mind is built upon a more primitive form of animal mind...all of course built upon the modular model...a module for fighting, eating, mating, raising children, being a friend etc... mind modules function on an unconscious level...they are not activated consciously... also, for humans, we have a module for dealing with what happens after we die...this is an important module because it helps us deal with death anxiety...and in order to do that, this module seems to shut down logical thinking to some degree...this is apparently done in order to facilitate the delusional state of mind necessary to maintain belief in whatever religious afterlife scenario the culture offers... so when a human has to deal with ideas related to death, the afterlife module is activated, and logic and rationality are suppressed... this is probably why normal people cannot understand cryonics...because the afterlife module prevents them from understanding the logic of cryonics.. here is some professor explaining mind modularity.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUv8HVGLbHc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3z338yB4n1A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modularity_of_mind
September 19, 2022 20:58:05
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September 18, 2022 14:56:38
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Pet Cryopreservation / New York City?Hello, I am a a journalist and documentary filmmaker located in New York City, and I would like to make a short film on the topic of pet cryopreservation. My intention is to make intimе and touching film about it, as I deeply emphasize with people who decided to give a chance for a new life to their loved ones. As I found out, in NYC there is no company which would take care of pet preservation. The most well-known is located in Arizona. I was wondering, whether the service of cryopreservation is available for those in NYC? I assumed that in NYC there are many people who would be interested in using this service.
September 18, 2022 14:56:07
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How, technically speaking, does a whole-body ITS dewars work?I was reading another article about [ITS](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/what-is-intermediate-temperature-storage-its). I understand the concept of Intermediate Temperature Storage, its advantages to avoiding thermal stress fracturing, etc., etc. But it is not clear to me how it works "technically". Based on the article, it is much trickier storage, with higher risks due to potential operational failure to keep the temperature under control compared to regular dewars where you just need to refill it with liquid nitrogen once per week. Does Alcor have one for the whole body? If yes, how does it work?
September 16, 2022 17:40:40
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>*i don't care about what you think...where is your evidence? I presented mine...go examine the evidence i presented ...prove me wrong...i suspect that you will not do the work...what a surprise..* Not sure exactly what you're referring to here! Evidence for what? You being a human race hating loser? Evidence that cryonics is doing ok? Evidence that your crap on anthropology/TMT has been, and always will be, completely useless for cryonics? Can you clarify please! *i suspect that you will not do the work...what a surprise..* Work for WHAT??? You've never presented any *evidence* for anything whatsoever!!! - just research on attitudes to death that only demonstrates the growing fear of a self-centered old man who desperately needs all cryonicists to obey *his* wishes just so it helps empty his increasingly poop filled pants! Its all about YOU - not cryonics! What a surprise...
September 16, 2022 17:40:20
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>*i don't care about what you think...where is your evidence? I presented mine...go examine the evidence i presented ...prove me wrong...i suspect that you will not do the work...what a surprise..* Not sure exactly what you're referring to here! Evidence for what? You being a human race hating loser? Evidence that cryonics is doing ok? Evidence that your crap on anthropology/TMT has been, and always will be, completely useless for cryonics? Can you clarify please! *i suspect that you will not do the work...what a surprise..* Work for WHAT??? You've never presented any *evidence* for anything whatsoever!!! - just research on attitudes to death that only demonstrates the growing fear of a self-centered old man who desperately needs all cryonicists to obey *his* wishes just so it helps empty his increasingly poop filled pants! Its all about YOU - not cryonics! What a surprise...
September 15, 2022 21:17:16
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"Shortly earlier than he died, Dr. Eckersley typed a request to his pals: 'If possible, please plasticize or vitrify my brain and leave it on a shelf somewhere with a plaque or durable sticky note that says, ‘scan me.’' That set off a scramble to discover a cryonics group to protect his mind"
September 15, 2022 14:31:42
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Whole-Body vs Neuro Cryopreservation. Pros and Cons?I personally don't believe in Neuro, since we already have too much "wishful thinking" for whole-body reanimation in the future. Meaning that there is already an immeasurable amount of problems that would need to be solved to reanimate an "optimal" whole-body cryopreservation case. Severed heads are an even more unlikely bet. Tomorrow wrote an article about the Pros and Cons of Whole-Body vs Neuro cryopreservation [https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/whole-body-vs-neuro-cryopreservation](https://www.tomorrow.bio/post/whole-body-vs-neuro-cryopreservation) In summary, the article says: **WHOLE BODY** PROS: * Easier & Better Perfusion Quality * All Identity Aspects Are (Probably) Preserved CONS: * Difficulties Moving Patients When Needed * More Expensive * Your Body Will Need to Be Treated Anyway ​ **NEURO** PROS: * Easier & Faster Procedure * Lower Price * Easy Emergency Transportation CONS: * Not everyone wants to talk about severed heads * History of legal issues * Potential Downsides in Some Revival Scenarios ​ It concludes by saying that >Each person interested in cryonics should make their own considerations and research.  For the company, whole-body is the safest way to grow the sector. Maybe, you could preserve the brain only, as the last option in case of a lack of resources to make Cryonics more accessible, but I am still not convinced. What are your thoughts?
September 14, 2022 14:30:57
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Lili, God loves you, but he needs you to sign up for cryonics in order to save your soul... bless you... read this site and save your soul: https://churchofcryonics.wordpress.com
September 14, 2022 14:30:56
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Lili, God loves you, but he needs you to sign up for cryonics in order to save your soul... bless you... read this site and save your soul: https://churchofcryonics.wordpress.com
September 14, 2022 14:30:50
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you should look at this site too: https://churchofcryonics.wordpress.com/
September 14, 2022 14:30:49
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you should look at this site too: https://churchofcryonics.wordpress.com/
September 14, 2022 14:29:03
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why I will not waver from my chosen path regarding the normalization of cryonics with cultural normsover on the cryonics email list, someone said that I may be doing the wrong thing when I try to align cryonics with the dominant cultural norms, in particular, using bible verses to normalize cryonics. here is my response: for decades atheists online have been pitching this idea that there is a burgeoning movement that is rejecting religion...I used to buy into it...but then i actually did the reading, reading books written by phds in sociology, cultural anthropology, etc, and it is clear that humans are evolved to use culture and religion as a psychological crutch when death start to become more real to them...sure, maybe modern medicine is delaying the perception that death is real...that is entirely possible...but it's clear that use of religion in homo sapiens is hardwired in the dna...that is not gonna change...not gonna change...period... and then there is the evidence I see with my own eyes...all around me, people that i have known for decades, people who did not give a fat happy damn about religion when they were young.. NONE ...not one of them ever said anything about religion when they were young ...and today? they are all about a relationship with god...do they go to church? Nope...but they reached out for that psychological crutch, just as they were EVOLVED to do...all they did was read a bit of the bible...or perhaps dialed up a website to get some helpful bible verses...church is no longer necessary...we are evolved to be self-delusional regarding our cultural crutches...that is in the dna... a bird gets pregnant and then builds a nest....who taught her to build a nest? It's in the dna.... and here is more evidence: i have talked to maybe 30 people about cryonics...not in random encounters either...i did not just walk up to someone on the street and ask them about cryonics...the topic arose out of a conversation about other matters...not ONE of these people showed the slightest bit of interest in cryonics....not one asked any question about cryonics, whether it could work or whatever...I would say that their demeanor became guarded...why? probably because cryonics violates ancient death practices taboos...and humans are evolved to become guarded and wary regarding violations of such taboos... but here is what is really interesting and telling: I put up about 100 youtube vlogs, and in maybe 15 of them, I mentioned the situation when my father and aunt sat me down at the kitchen table and tried to talk me out of cryonics. It was quite the scene! I talked about what they said and what they seemed to feel. I did so in a number of vlogs. I have talked about how i regretted my inability to reach out to them successfully about cryonics. so, here in this email I have talked about how various people reacted when i talked to them about cryonics. Now, I have also read/browsed all the old alcor cryonics magazines online, which go back to the 1980s, as I recall. There are many of them. You wanna how many articles in that magazine ever delved as deeply as i have right here about outsider reactions to cryonics? ZERO. To my recollection, not one single alcor mag article has ever been written that talked about how outsiders react to cryonics. Not one. That is an amazing statistical anomaly, given the fact that we are supposedly pitching cryonics to the general public. Cryos just don't notice how other people react to cryonics. I don't think they really care. That tells me that we cryos are somehow psychologically or emotionally crippled. Probably 90% of all cryos are either autistic or have some personality disorder, such as schizoid or avoidant. We are mentally crippled. Which goes a long way toward explaining why so few people are interested in cryonics. Because we built a cryonics culture that appeals to us. And we are basically psychological oddballs. Freaks. Now why would i cast my lot with cryonicists in general and agree with them that there is some anti-religion tidal wave coming? That is delusional! It aint happening. Just look at the evidence. It's hardwired in the dna. Cryonicists are emotionally/psychologically crippled. And maybe I am, too. But at least i realize it...and I am gonna do and think the OPPOSITE of what cryonicists do and think regarding how cryonics is perceived by and pitched to the general public. Why? Because the parking lots of cryonics organizations are EMPTY. Forget the price of cryonics or the hoops that cryonicists make outsiders jump through. Where are the tens of thousands of people who should be interested in building a new cryonics movement, one that is cheaper and easier to access? Those parking lots are empty. And cryonicists just do not notice. So, when it comes matters relating to how cryonics should be pitched to the public, I am just gonna do the opposite of what you all do. Because you have failed and you have not even noticed it...
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Has anyone signed up for International Cyromedicine Experts response team?They‘re a full time cryonics response crew that responds, stabilizes and transports cryonics members anywhere in the world. I only heard about them recently. Theres 3 membership services, bronze, which is the basic membership, they handle logistics and transport domestically. Silver, where a team is actually sent out to stabilize and secure the patient for transport, then gold, where a full service response team is available 24/7 and it includes air transport too. These guys seem like professionals, only founded in 2018. it’s crazy I only heard about them now, they have chartered aircraft, a standby team for you personally pre-legal death, and international services. But their website is bare bones though, doesn’t offer much news except for a list of services provided and a contact link.
September 13, 2022 16:32:24
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Journalist looking for Cryonics membersHey there! I am working on a story about Cryonics, specifically ALCOR in Arizona. I'd really like to interview someone who has signed up for the process or who has had someone cyropreserved. Ideally this person would be in Arizona but we can also do it via Zoom!
September 13, 2022 14:21:11
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Why wasn't Elizabeth II preserved?I can think of many obvious "soft" reasons: lack of awareness, cultural stigma, religious aversion, etc. And she has surely cemented her legacy in history so in a sense she is already immortal. But are there any practical reasons as to why she is being buried at Windsor Castle instead of cryonically preserved?
September 11, 2022 13:05:21
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"[Cryonics]... ...is incompatible with true Christian faith."
September 10, 2022 11:42:46
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i have talked to a dozen or so nurses and doctors about cryonics...one was antagonistic to the idea because he said it would violate the standard of care...problem is that the standard of care only applies to LIVE people, not dead people... not ONE of them asked any question about cryonics...most seemed guarded when i brought it up...based on my interpretation of their reaction, they were slightly disgusted by the idea...in fact, I have talked with almost 30 people about cryonics, and in general, reactions were similar to those expressed by doctors and nurses...everyone knows what cryonics is, but NOBODY is curious about the details of it, or whether it can work etc...and they seem slightly repulsed by the mention of it... this is an important question you ask...I have been signed up for cryonics for over 25 years...I began researching it well over 30 years ago...I have read much of the early communications of cryonicists, including the alcor cryonics magazine, going back into the 1980s...as well as the old cryonet email list..i was peripherally involved in the operation of a cryo org many years ago... so I am very familiar with how cryonicists think....cryos do not care much about people in general...in fact you might say that cryos do not seem to notice much how other people feel and react to things...emotional reactions seem to be something that cryonicists miss almost entirely...there are of course some exceptions, bell curve and all that... that is why I have argued that most cryonicists have a personality disorder, probably schizoid or schizotypal...this psychological makeup of cryos is the major factor in the culture of cryonics and its cult-like, insular nature...which goes a long way toward explaining why cryonics has not been accepted by the masses
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i have talked to a dozen or so nurses and doctors about cryonics...one was antagonistic to the idea because he said it would violate the standard of care...problem is that the standard of care only applies to LIVE people, not dead people... not ONE of them asked any question about cryonics...most seemed guarded when i brought it up...based on my interpretation of their reaction, they were slightly disgusted by the idea...in fact, I have talked with almost 30 people about cryonics, and in general, reactions were similar to those expressed by doctors and nurses...everyone knows what cryonics is, but NOBODY is curious about the details of it, or whether it can work etc...and they seem slightly repulsed by the mention of it... this is an important question you ask...I have been signed up for cryonics for over 25 years...I began researching it well over 30 years ago...I have read much of the early communications of cryonicists, including the alcor cryonics magazine, going back into the 1980s...as well as the old cryonet email list..i was peripherally involved in the operation of a cryo org many years ago... so I am very familiar with how cryonicists think....cryos do not care much about people in general...in fact you might say that cryos do not seem to notice much how other people feel and react to things...emotional reactions seem to be something that cryonicists miss almost entirely...there are of course some exceptions, bell curve and all that... that is why I have argued that most cryonicists have a personality disorder, probably schizoid or schizotypal...this psychological makeup of cryos is the major factor in the culture of cryonics and its cult-like, insular nature...which goes a long way toward explaining why cryonics has not been accepted by the masses
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i have talked to a dozen or so nurses and doctors about cryonics...one was antagonistic to the idea because he said it would violate the standard of care...problem is that the standard of care only applies to LIVE people, not dead people... not ONE of them asked any question about cryonics...most seemed guarded when i brought it up...based on my interpretation of their reaction, they were slightly disgusted by the idea...in fact, I have talked with almost 30 people about cryonics, and in general, reactions were similar to those expressed by doctors and nurses...everyone knows what cryonics is, but NOBODY is curious about the details of it, or whether it can work etc...and they seem slightly repulsed by the mention of it... this is an important question you ask...I have been signed up for cryonics for over 25 years...I began researching it well over 30 years ago...I have read much of the early communications of cryonicists, including the alcor cryonics magazine, going back into the 1980s...as well as the old cryonet email list..i was peripherally involved in the operation of a cryo org many years ago... so I am very familiar with how cryonicists think....cryos do not care much about people in general...in fact you might say that cryos do not seem to notice much how other people feel and react to things...emotional reactions seem to be something that cryonicists miss almost entirely...there are of course some exceptions, bell curve and all that... that is why I have argued that most cryonicists have a personality disorder, probably schizoid or schizotypal...this psychological makeup of cryos is the major factor in the culture of cryonics and its cult-like, insular nature...which goes a long way toward explaining why cryonics has not been accepted by the masses
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Has anyone talked to any medical workers about cryonics?So I’ve talked to quite a few medical workers (nurses, doctors, er physicians, etc), most would say that (unfortunately) they wouldn’t pump cryonics members full of heparin and cool them in ice, but just call the number on their bracelet. I assume they could follow the instructions given by Alcor staff over the phone later. Has anyone talked to hospital workers about what they would do in the event a cryonics patient was brought it?
September 8, 2022 19:18:55
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Search for the Logo of the Cryonics Society of New York - Biostasis [Mike Perry]
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Announcing r/chemopreservation, a community to discuss room-temperature alternatives to cryonics.Hi! I just made [chemopreservation](https://www.reddit.com/r/chemopreservation/), a Reddit community for people interested in **chemopreservation**. This term refers to non-cryogenic alternatives to cryonics based on chemical fixation or other forms of chemical modification, for long-term storage with zero or near zero maintainance, which typically calls for storage at room temperature in a solid state (some form of plastination or similar), although other options can be explored. It's a place to discuss not just research news but also practical aspects like cost, regulations, etc, and concrete plans to provide this service. To those interested, please don't hesitate to join, I'll see you all there. Thanks!
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> Besides why are you concerned if you are an Alcor member? because there is a good chance that cryonics will fail as a movement in the future, while i am in the dewar. Why? No man is an island, said the poet John Donne. >'No Man is an Island' No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. what is the meaning of the poem? Man is a social animal, a tribal animal. Cryonicists do not have a deep understanding of the animal man. And so therefore they have failed to build a robust movement that will survive the vagaries and cycles of nature and of man and of his cultures and nations and economies. Without a robust movement that centers on the social nature of man, cryonics will likely fail. Cryos just don't have the background education to understand the problem. But I have the education to understand it, or at least I see the problem and am aware. Also, cryos seem to have symptoms of mental illness, such as autism, or schizoid or personality disorders. Not sure what. But it's clear that cryonicists in general are blind to many aspects of the world outside. Cryos think they can be an island, isolated from mankind. "I am a rock, I am an island," as paul simon sang. This is part of their 'condition.' But no man is an island. We are all connected. You have to understand mankind. And we need to get mankind involved with cryonics. Kriorus is a very fast growing cryo org with the potential to bring cryonics to the masses. THat is why I am interested in learning more about kriorus. Most cryonicists would rather discuss terraforming or socialism or libertarianism than discuss the sociological/cultural issues that confront cryonics, which is why cryonics as a movement has failed to thrive.
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> Besides why are you concerned if you are an Alcor member? because there is a good chance that cryonics will fail as a movement in the future, while i am in the dewar. Why? No man is an island, said the poet John Donne. >'No Man is an Island' No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. what is the meaning of the poem? Man is a social animal, a tribal animal. Cryonicists do not have a deep understanding of the animal man. And so therefore they have failed to build a robust movement that will survive the vagaries and cycles of nature and of man and of his cultures and nations and economies. Without a robust movement that centers on the social nature of man, cryonics will likely fail. Cryos just don't have the background education to understand the problem. But I have the education to understand it, or at least I see the problem and am aware. Also, cryos seem to have symptoms of mental illness, such as autism, or schizoid or personality disorders. Not sure what. But it's clear that cryonicists in general are blind to many aspects of the world outside. Cryos think they can be an island, isolated from mankind. "I am a rock, I am an island," as paul simon sang. This is part of their 'condition.' But no man is an island. We are all connected. You have to understand mankind. And we need to get mankind involved with cryonics. Kriorus is a very fast growing cryo org with the potential to bring cryonics to the masses. THat is why I am interested in learning more about kriorus. Most cryonicists would rather discuss terraforming or socialism or libertarianism than discuss the sociological/cultural issues that confront cryonics, which is why cryonics as a movement has failed to thrive.
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Your paranoia and deluded rantings are getting real old. Literally nothing you ever say contributes to any semblance of constructive discussion. Let's say that cryonics is as corrupt, inefficient, unwelcoming, as you purport it to be. You belly ache and complain that cryonics will never work because you have some caricature in your mind of cryonicists being incapable. Why the heck are you still here and want to be a part of this? If you have this much doubt, why even get cryonically suspended?? I vote that you don't get suspended and go away because nobody in the future wants to have someone with such strong deficiencies of empathy. You constantly post ablelist comments and have a history of attacking and belittling people who are autistic and that is very hurtful. I'm beginning to think that the mods here tolerate bigotry against neuro-divergent individuals because starman is allowed to spread such vitriol.
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Your paranoia and deluded rantings are getting real old. Literally nothing you ever say contributes to any semblance of constructive discussion. Let's say that cryonics is as corrupt, inefficient, unwelcoming, as you purport it to be. You belly ache and complain that cryonics will never work because you have some caricature in your mind of cryonicists being incapable. Why the heck are you still here and want to be a part of this? If you have this much doubt, why even get cryonically suspended?? I vote that you don't get suspended and go away because nobody in the future wants to have someone with such strong deficiencies of empathy. You constantly post ablelist comments and have a history of attacking and belittling people who are autistic and that is very hurtful. I'm beginning to think that the mods here tolerate bigotry against neuro-divergent individuals because starman is allowed to spread such vitriol.
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Shut up, you are extremely annoying and a pompous ass. You keep clogging up this Reddit with your idiotic ramblings. Nobody is joining your cult!
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Shut up, you are extremely annoying and a pompous ass. You keep clogging up this Reddit with your idiotic ramblings. Nobody is joining your cult!
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the attention-seeking cryo: yet another unnoticed phenomenonanother interesting phenomenon is how many people use cryonics to draw attention to themselves, to raise their profile and get their name and face in the media.... often, these attention seeking cryos are not even signed up, but claim to be... for some people, attention and a media profile is like money in the bank to them... very very few other cryos have even noticed this phenomenon...and certainly i am the only cryo currently posting here to have noticed this...but then again i first became interested in cryonics in the 1980s, signed up in the 1990s and have an extensive formal education, which certainly separates me from the vast majority of cryos, and especially considering the current crop of posters here.. .... a number of posts on this subreddit from time to time are good examples of this phenomenon...
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the attention-seeking cryo: yet another unnoticed phenomenonanother interesting phenomenon is how many people use cryonics to draw attention to themselves, to raise their profile and get their name and face in the media.... often, these attention seeking cryos are not even signed up, but claim to be... for some people, attention and a media profile is like money in the bank to them... very very few other cryos have even noticed this phenomenon...and certainly i am the only cryo currently posting here to have noticed this...but then again i first became interested in cryonics in the 1980s, signed up in the 1990s and have an extensive formal education, which certainly separates me from the vast majority of cryos, and especially considering the current crop of posters here.. .... a number of posts on this subreddit from time to time are good examples of this phenomenon...
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the attention-seeking cryo: yet another unnoticed phenomenonanother interesting phenomenon is how many people use cryonics to draw attention to themselves, to raise their profile and get their name and face in the media.... often, these attention seeking cryos are not even signed up, but claim to be... for some people, attention and a media profile is like money in the bank to them... very very few other cryos have even noticed this phenomenon...and certainly i am the only cryo currently posting here to have noticed this...but then again i first became interested in cryonics in the 1980s, signed up in the 1990s and have an extensive formal education, which certainly separates me from the vast majority of cryos, and especially considering the current crop of posters here.. .... a number of posts on this subreddit from time to time are good examples of this phenomenon...
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I feel like wanting to be cryogenized stems from a lack of enjoyment and peace in my lifeI don't know. Yesterday I've been reading bout cryonics and at first it seemed like yeah! It is a solution for my fear of death or diseases. But now I thought it more deeply and I'm like damn dude, you're so faithless in life... like, how can you be so scared of living that you want to be cryogenized? Plus it's not very likely to happen or be successful... I just feel like I shouldn't hold onto a fantasy like this. Yeah the future must be exciting and technological breakthroughs ought to be breathtaking. We may have even discovered aliens and colonized the other planets... But what's the point in dreaming? What's the point in not living in the present. We already have cellphones, television, etc. Lots of things to enjoy. But still, there's this emptiness inside of me that craves for more answers of the universe, of why are we here... And to put it simply I feel like by reading things like cryonics or longevity or anti-aging drugs I'm just hoping for something that might ease some fear of life. Yes, a fear of life. It can't be that way. I just want peace. I just want to enjoy listening to music (I listen to a lot - albums, plenty of albums and genres), I really like art and I do have fun when I draw and observe nature. I consider myself to have a lot of imagination - that's why I find the future to be so attractive, because there would be a lot of amazing new information to entertain. Places to visit. Answers to the universe. But it's just not possible. It all feels like wishful thinking, sort of a nostalgia for a future that I will never see. The afterlife, the divine, the we-are-more-than-the-sum-of-its-parts nature of the mind, all of that feels like wishful thinking. But I have to live. I have to keep having fun. I just can't fear life. And I can't obsess over something so unfathomable like cryonics. Enjoy life.
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I find it a laughable assertion that anyone could *like* you. While I disagree with you most of the time, I honestly feel you need to get professional help. You display a disconcerting amount of mental instability flavored with ablelist comments, paranoid delusions, and some strong indications of megalomania. Get help friend.
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seriously, you have something wrong with you...like all cryos, you are a malfunctioning biological machine...come to grips with that fact and move on from there...but it's important to face the truth
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I find it a laughable assertion that anyone could *like* you. While I disagree with you most of the time, I honestly feel you need to get professional help. You display a disconcerting amount of mental instability flavored with ablelist comments, paranoid delusions, and some strong indications of megalomania. Get help friend.
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seriously, you have something wrong with you...like all cryos, you are a malfunctioning biological machine...come to grips with that fact and move on from there...but it's important to face the truth
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So... Cryonics is only a first-world country thing?I am a Chilean guy and I freakin' love technology, space travel, sci-fi, etc. I am also kind of an anxious guy, who at times has a lot of existential dread about death and what comes after. I've done everything, from doing meditation, reading about death, etc. But there are times where I think about ''ceasing to exist'' and it just makes me really anxious, and if not, very sad. I would love to see the future, what kind of society I might find myself in, etc. I know it's not veery likely but there's a likelihood so that's enough. I find it a little bit unfair but obvious that it's only a USA and European thing. Here in Chile we don't have any of that, so that would mean that if I wanted to be cryogenized I would have to move to the US or something like that. Had foreign people signed up for this? I would just simply love to have a second shot at life, in a futuristic world, like a dream! I am 23 years old. I feel like such an outcast and a coward (especially in my country), it's my reality. But hey! At least it gives me some motivation to do something big in my life, like working really hard or doing something ''new'' or profitable just so I could have this dream come true.
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Cryo Sleep and back So, with all the phenominal things we're learning about space and whats out there in the great beyond - humans travelling any great distance through the void is still not possible. Yet. I know a little about cryo and stasis-like theories and tech but still wonder what the largest hurdles we face as far as developing the actual tools for reviving people or animals put into that state. Legality will always be an issue but I'm more curious about the science side of things. Why do you think we haven't developed or seriously invested time and resources into R&D regarding this? What are the biggest issues involved in successfully reviving someone who willingly submitted themselves to be frozen or preserved? I ask because the more time I spend thinking about it the more I feel like if it was possible, I'd gladly sail through the stars- more so if stasis or cryo was a working function of space travel so that i might actually get to visit other worlds.
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The shock of waking upIt will be a terrifying experience when you wake up and realize it actually happened. Will people die from instant heart attacks? Go crazy?
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if they can freeze a dog for $5k, why is there no option to do a human neuro for $5k?if the cryonics companies can freeze a dog for $5k, why is there no offered option by the cryonics companies to do a human neuro for $5k? and more importantly, after 35 plus years of "discussions" on cryonics forums, why am I the only person to ever pose this question?
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if a dog can be frozen for $X, then why can't a person be frozen for $X? I am the only person on this planet EVER to ask that important question...yet ANOTHER piece of evidence to support the argument that cryos are cultists...or perhaps autistic..or perhaps mentally ill or developmentally disabled in some way...which would go a long way toward explaining why cryonics has failed to thrive
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here we go...if a dog can be frozen for $X, then why can't a person be frozen for $X? I am the only person on this planet EVER to ask that important question...yet ANOTHER piece of evidence to support the argument that cryos are cultists...or perhaps autistic..or perhaps mentally ill or developmentally disabled in some way...which would go a long way toward explaining why cryonics has failed to thrive
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To listen to the audio version of this podcast check us out on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cryonics-underground/id1550475209), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/4YSstrY70oSedn5P4WZ2kG), [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xNTEwNDUzLnJzcw==) and all your other favorites places. You can also listen to it on our [website](https://www.cryonicsunderground.com/). In this episode Max and Daniel speak with Kai Micah Mills. Kai is the Founder of Cryopets, the first company focused on pet cryopreservation. Before founding Cryopets, Kai founded and ran several entrepreneurial ventures the tech space. In this episode we discuss:  * Kai's history as a tech entrepreneur * His views on the value (or lack thereof) of traditional schooling * Growing up religious, and the impact of a religious background * The life extension Tech Tree * Why the life extension community doesn't embrace Cryonics * Cryopets - what it is, why work on this, where it is now, and where it's going * Kai’s precise vision for how he intends to execute  * Kai's responses to major objections to his Cryopets plan * How the Cryonics's industry’s existing views on pet cryopreservation have been detrimental to Cryonics as a whole * And more! As always, you can find Max and Daniel over at the Cryonics Underground Channel in the [Cryosphere Cryonics discord server.](http://bit.ly/cryonicsunderground)
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Third Quarter 2022 Cryonics magazineI haven't read it all yet, but I'm starting this thread for those who have.
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How did this become a dichotomy of "total BS quakery" vs "guaranteed rebirth"Ok... something has gotten REALLY old and aggravating to me... Every article is one of two polar extremes: ONE EXTREME (paraphrasing): "This is all pseudoscientific BS scamming money from rich atheists who think they are guaranteed to be 'unfrozen' or put in a simulation blah blah blah" OTHER EXTREME (paraphrasing): "You are not dead! You are a patient who is just stopped and who will step out after being unfrozen in 50-50,000 years during which time we will of course still be in business and someone will care enough to go to the trouble" I feel that the reasonable scientific answer to all this is (as is typical when it comes to science) the "highly detailed, equivocal kinda-sorta technically but conditional on etc etc" 1. I agree that getting yourself frozen is LONGEST of long shots (to put it mildly). By extension I agree that presenting this as a 'sure thing' is patently dishonest. 2. I think it is clear that in an effort to stop scam artists medical researchers are making what are blatantly unscientific statements about the limits of medicine in the distant future and blanket claims about information science as it applies to the brain. 3. IMPORTANT POINT I DON'T HEAR MUCH: I think one very neglected route to make getting your body frozen a responsible enterprise is the following... we have NO IDEA how valuable a human being from the distant past might be historically someday. I don't see how it would be untoward for someone to put in their will "after being revived in some fashion I agree to be kept isolated in a controlled setting where I can be interviewed, questioned, observed by historians for several years". No one HAS to revive you, but considering how badly current historians would love to have a supply of people from 300 years in the past... I don't see how that won't have value someday. Certainly when the number of people getting frozen earliest in history (now) will be in limited numbers... therefore far more valuable and worth extra trouble. 4. I think that as long as someone does not leave their families nothing because they spent it all on getting/staying frozen and establishing some trust by which they could stay frozen... no one should be judged for spending money on this any more than the money they might spend on really expensive wines or cars. 5. There do not currently seem to be any legal mechanisms similar to a trust fund which can give any solidity regarding STAYING frozen. But client demand for estate/trust law that covers this could change that. Also something as simple as advances in vacuum insulation could make this low-maintenance in the immediate future. 6. I think the only healthy attitude towards death is to assume it is a given (at SOME point in time, whether that is now or a long long time from now). But the whole point of this cryonics-lottery is a sliver of a chance at a life in a (possibly) highly advanced future. And lets be honest... that kind of a future is not something you can could put any price on. Put simply, these are long odds due to unknowns in technology and medical limitations we can only speculate about (proving something is NOT possible is a lot harder than proving it IS possible). Also the ability to stay frozen due to business failures, legalities, etc.. These are being presented unrealistically by charlatans as extremes. The honest heading for cryonics businesses should be "funeral services". However... blanket judgement of quakery is itself flat out misrepresentation. That is putting this in the same category as Scientology, "pray the gay away", "magic tonics" that happen to be urine (Sweeny Todd reference LOL), etc. My point is this: Like or not this is an open question. I don't like it when it is presented as some sort of guarantee because that is dishonest. But so is labeling this as irrational pseudoscience. If we can reconstruct the genome from naturally preserved mammoths that died 30,000+ years ago in relatively high temperature Canadian permafrost... how on EARTH can someone claim to know it will always and forever be impossible for any technology to reconstruct/repair far more complex tissue that was frozen to a much, much colder temperature? I.e. a temperature where the passage of time has negligible physical effects. Anyways... done ranting.
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Who here has a pet at the Cryonics Institute?My cat is headed that way, so I just wanted to know some of the company that she'll soon have. ❤
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Washington Post: "Technology promises to change the meaning of death — at least for some"
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Tomorrow Biostasis and NFTThere's a new video where Emil Kendziorra explain the NFT move and his vision of what cryonics should be. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A\_Uewk8MjWU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Uewk8MjWU)
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Interview with Mike Perry by Jonathan Despres in 2008. An evergreen interview that is worthy of a read or re-read, as Perry is one of the most inspiring and sensible contributors to cryonics.
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Main reasons people sign up for CryonicsHere's a few I came up with: 1. Adventure: A way to discover and explore the distant future 2. Social: A way to spend more time with friends, family, and loved ones 3. Diminish fear/anxiety: As a way of assuaging my fear of death 4. Knowledge: To see how things turn out or learn answers to big questions \-- People may relate to some or all of these to different degrees (or not at all). What are some other major reasons people do this?
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I live in Singapore and I want to sign up for cryonics. How can I do it?
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Cryonic companies involved in NFTHi,im living in Europe and im very interested in cryonic , im looking for a reliable company,the only one close to me seem to be involved in NFT, which IS a Big red flag for me I really Want to sign up with them since they are very close to my location but seriously ,I cant trust someone who promote NFT What do you think about this ? What should I do ?
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Cryopreservation for Dog in AustraliaI am an Australian resident and desire to preserve my dog after its death. It is not at immediate risk of dying (it is 7 with an average lifespan of 12 years) but has health problems, and so I'd like to be prepared just in case. I've been looking at different facilities and transportation options, is my best option to contact CAA (Cryonics Association of Australasia) for advice? I see that their blog hasn't been updated since 2017, are they still active, and if so, does the service have a good reputation? Furthermore, at which facility should I preserve it? If it is operational before my dogs expected passing, I was hoping to opt for Oregon Cryo, as my dog is quite large (65 pound), so preservation at CI would cost around 13,000 USD, whereas neuropreservation at OC would be only 2000 USD (I don't have any preference for neuro vs full body, but I only care about preserving my dogs brain). I'm trying to keep costs as low as possible whilst still maintaining a high quality service. It's just that 13,000$ just for preservation (not even including transport) is incredibly expensive for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I live in Malaysia, how can i sign up for cryonics?
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I may be dying and currently live in Canada, what are my options for Cryonics?I know there is 2 companies in the US, one in China and one in Germany. There seems to be a reasonable amount of controversy as well as logistics which I'm still trying to understand. What should I do to ensure that I am cryopreserved in the event I die?
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I may be dying and currently live in Canada, what are my options for Cryonics?I know there is 2 companies in the US, one in China and one in Germany. There seems to be a reasonable amount of controversy as well as logistics which I'm still trying to understand. What should I do to ensure that I am cryopreserved in the event I die?
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insurance will refuse to cover the processthey will likely check everything before paying the company that will take care of you after your death, for example if you go to the doctor for a check up and he find high blood pressure he will put this information on your medical record ,then you will your coverage denied , even if your high blood pressure was just caused by anxiety during the appointment your body will get burried or cremated and not cryopreserved ​
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insurance will refuse to cover the processthey will likely check everything before paying the company that will take care of you after your death, for example if you go to the doctor for a check up and he find high blood pressure he will put this information on your medical record ,then you will your coverage denied , even if your high blood pressure was just caused by anxiety during the appointment your body will get burried or cremated and not cryopreserved ​
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How can we improve public attitudes towards cryonics?You go online, or talk to random people about cryonics, and the majority of the views skew towards negativity or neutrality. It’s worse online (especially Reddit) but the people I also talk to in real life don‘t seem to positive about cryonics either. Most of their reactions range from the strangeness of it, to outright hate like saying that cryonics is a fantasy that would never work. So, what could be done to improve the mainstream public attitude toward cryonics? I imagine the most exposure that most people get to cryonics is in movies and TV shows, which would only show cryonics as a way to freeze yourself for the future, and not the longevity of the industry or other factors that would increase positive perception towards cryonics. I’ve tried researching online but nothing seems to be of help. What could be done to increase positive public attitude’s towards cryonics?
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Are frozen people already awake in the future?If revival is ever successful, are these people already awake in the future and living their lives?
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Which cryonics institution is best for Latin America?Does anyone know which is the best institution for South America?
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What college courses/major should one take to benefit the cryonics field?Something in mechanical engineering? At least that’s the first thing that Google pulls up. Looking at Alcor job openings they seem to gravitate towards medical backgrounds for transport teams. Or for the more favourable attitude towards cryonics, maybe marketing?
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Anti-intellectualism and lack of empathy in cryonicsOn another forum, someone who works in the area of cryopreservation said that cryonics is very difficult...here is my response: Yes, indeed it is...but why is it so difficult? It's important to ask questions...that is the way to gain knowledge, knowledge that can be used to make cryonics less difficult... Cryonics is difficult because it is an attack on the belief systems of homo sapiens, a species of primate with a powerful brain that allows them to see into the future and see that they will die and forever cease to exist...this foreknowledge mentally destabilizes individual humans, which makes it hard for them to function day to day, thus making it hard to pass on their dna... Through evolution and natural selection, homo sapiens has evolved to include in their extended phenotype belief systems that mitigate their fear of impending death...these belief systems are patently impossible and violate the laws of physics, so therefore humans also evolved the ability to delude themselves into believing in the impossible when it comes to what happens after death.. Part of these belief systems include taboos surrounding death..these taboos make it easier to sustain belief in these physically impossible afterlife scenarios that are found in the belief systems of every culture... Cryonics is an attack on these belief systems, a blatant violation of societal taboos formed over hundreds of thousands of years...... pretty simple...well, it's simple if you are a cryo who has done the reading necessary to understand these matters...what reading? Oh, reading textbooks written by academics with PhDs in things like anthropology, sociology, experimental psychology...etc... And why haven't cryonicists done this reading? Well, for one, they are not intellectually curious to do that..secondly, they are rejects from society who harbor a hatred of society...kind of hard to empathize with the society that rejected you...which brings us back to the question of why cryonics is so hard...so maybe the answer is that the culture of cryonics is anti-intellectual, making it hard to obtain the knowledge needed to understand homo sapiens, and secondly, we are antagonistic to the society of man at large, because we are rejects from society, making it hard for us to empathize with normal human beings.
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Anti-intellectualism and lack of empathy in cryonicsOn another forum, someone who works in the area of cryopreservation said that cryonics is very difficult...here is my response: Yes, indeed it is...but why is it so difficult? It's important to ask questions...that is the way to gain knowledge, knowledge that can be used to make cryonics less difficult... Cryonics is difficult because it is an attack on the belief systems of homo sapiens, a species of primate with a powerful brain that allows them to see into the future and see that they will die and forever cease to exist...this foreknowledge mentally destabilizes individual humans, which makes it hard for them to function day to day, thus making it hard to pass on their dna... Through evolution and natural selection, homo sapiens has evolved to include in their extended phenotype belief systems that mitigate their fear of impending death...these belief systems are patently impossible and violate the laws of physics, so therefore humans also evolved the ability to delude themselves into believing in the impossible when it comes to what happens after death.. Part of these belief systems include taboos surrounding death..these taboos make it easier to sustain belief in these physically impossible afterlife scenarios that are found in the belief systems of every culture... Cryonics is an attack on these belief systems, a blatant violation of societal taboos formed over hundreds of thousands of years...... pretty simple...well, it's simple if you are a cryo who has done the reading necessary to understand these matters...what reading? Oh, reading textbooks written by academics with PhDs in things like anthropology, sociology, experimental psychology...etc... And why haven't cryonicists done this reading? Well, for one, they are not intellectually curious to do that..secondly, they are rejects from society who harbor a hatred of society...kind of hard to empathize with the society that rejected you...which brings us back to the question of why cryonics is so hard...so maybe the answer is that the culture of cryonics is anti-intellectual, making it hard to obtain the knowledge needed to understand homo sapiens, and secondly, we are antagonistic to the society of man at large, because we are rejects from society, making it hard for us to empathize with normal human beings.
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What validity is there to the person who claimed that he witnessed Alcor’s failures?This Redditor claimed to be a cameraman who interviewed some people at Alcor “Hey as someone who has spent time at ALCOR and personally interviewed Hugh Hixon Jr. I have to tell you that it’s a scam. Hugh showed me scans of patients’ brains. Everyone frozen there has huge ice spikes growing through their grey matter. Ted Williams has a tuna can stuck to the side of his head following an accident during a transfer from one lobster pot to another. There are early 2000s-era chat logs documenting the whole organization freaking out about this. And I’m not being silly calling them lobster pots, thats what they are when Hugh buys them. He sleeps under his desk in a ratty sweater because he’s homeless and just wants to keep his dad’s tank topped up with your money. He seemingly knows this shit isn’t going to work and is also fully committed to it. Please don’t name ALCOR as the beneficiary for whatever life insurance policy you took out. (I know that’s how they fund it.) They always do the decap now btw. There is still debate about which vertebrae they’re supposed to cut at. Hope they settle that arguement before you die!” How much truth is there to what he’s saying?
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What validity is there to the person who claimed that he witnessed Alcor’s failures?This Redditor claimed to be a cameraman who interviewed some people at Alcor “Hey as someone who has spent time at ALCOR and personally interviewed Hugh Hixon Jr. I have to tell you that it’s a scam. Hugh showed me scans of patients’ brains. Everyone frozen there has huge ice spikes growing through their grey matter. Ted Williams has a tuna can stuck to the side of his head following an accident during a transfer from one lobster pot to another. There are early 2000s-era chat logs documenting the whole organization freaking out about this. And I’m not being silly calling them lobster pots, thats what they are when Hugh buys them. He sleeps under his desk in a ratty sweater because he’s homeless and just wants to keep his dad’s tank topped up with your money. He seemingly knows this shit isn’t going to work and is also fully committed to it. Please don’t name ALCOR as the beneficiary for whatever life insurance policy you took out. (I know that’s how they fund it.) They always do the decap now btw. There is still debate about which vertebrae they’re supposed to cut at. Hope they settle that arguement before you die!” How much truth is there to what he’s saying?
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Why Is No One Talking About The Elephant In The Room? Vitrification Agents Are Cytotoxic. I understand here a lot of people here assume that nanotech or whatever can repair any damage no matter how severe. I also understand a lot of people here want to do mind uploading, but a copy of me is not me, and that's the point of getting cryonics right? Not for some other digital being to wake up with my memories, but for my biological tissues to be rejuvenated and resume functioning. Why on earth are we not using natural Antifreeze proteins made by creatures in nature that get frozen solid and survive it? Why are we using vitrification agents which are cytotoxic? Is it really necessary to use liquid nitrogen to cool you down to −195.8 °C, wouldn't it be more reasonable to stick to temperatures these creatures that freeze solid and survive would see? It seems to me we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
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Why Is No One Talking About The Elephant In The Room? Vitrification Agents Are Cytotoxic. I understand here a lot of people here assume that nanotech or whatever can repair any damage no matter how severe. I also understand a lot of people here want to do mind uploading, but a copy of me is not me, and that's the point of getting cryonics right? Not for some other digital being to wake up with my memories, but for my biological tissues to be rejuvenated and resume functioning. Why on earth are we not using natural Antifreeze proteins made by creatures in nature that get frozen solid and survive it? Why are we using vitrification agents which are cytotoxic? Is it really necessary to use liquid nitrogen to cool you down to −195.8 °C, wouldn't it be more reasonable to stick to temperatures these creatures that freeze solid and survive would see? It seems to me we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
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What validity is there to the person who claimed that he witnessed Alcor’s failures?This Redditor claimed to be a cameraman who interviewed some people at Alcor “Hey as someone who has spent time at ALCOR and personally interviewed Hugh Hixon Jr. I have to tell you that it’s a scam. Hugh showed me scans of patients’ brains. Everyone frozen there has huge ice spikes growing through their grey matter. Ted Williams has a tuna can stuck to the side of his head following an accident during a transfer from one lobster pot to another. There are early 2000s-era chat logs documenting the whole organization freaking out about this. And I’m not being silly calling them lobster pots, thats what they are when Hugh buys them. He sleeps under his desk in a ratty sweater because he’s homeless and just wants to keep his dad’s tank topped up with your money. He seemingly knows this shit isn’t going to work and is also fully committed to it. Please don’t name ALCOR as the beneficiary for whatever life insurance policy you took out. (I know that’s how they fund it.) They always do the decap now btw. There is still debate about which vertebrae they’re supposed to cut at. Hope they settle that arguement before you die!” How much truth is there to what he’s saying?
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The Dark Side of Science: The Bizarre World of Cryonics | Short Documentary by Plainly Difficult [posted July 23 2022, already 50k+ views]
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The Invention of Cryonics | Patented [interviews with Haley Campbell, who just published a book that touches on cryonics, and Tim Gibson, from Cryonics UK]
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Why Is No One Talking About The Elephant In The Room? Vitrification Agents Are Cytotoxic.I understand here a lot of people here assume that nanotech or whatever can repair any damage no matter how severe. I also understand a lot of people here want to do mind uploading, but a copy of me is not me, and that's the point of getting cryonics right? Not for some other digital being to wake up with my memories, but for my biological tissues to be rejuvenated and resume functioning. Why on earth are we not using natural Antifreeze proteins made by creatures in nature that get frozen solid and survive it? Why are we using vitrification agents which are cytotoxic? Is it really necessary to use liquid nitrogen to cool you down to −195.8 °C, wouldn't it be more reasonable to stick to temperatures these creatures that freeze solid and survive would see? It seems to me we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
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Why Is No One Talking About The Elephant In The Room? Vitrification Agents Are Cytotoxic.I understand here a lot of people here assume that nanotech or whatever can repair any damage no matter how severe. I also understand a lot of people here want to do mind uploading, but a copy of me is not me, and that's the point of getting cryonics right? Not for some other digital being to wake up with my memories, but for my biological tissues to be rejuvenated and resume functioning. Why on earth are we not using natural Antifreeze proteins made by creatures in nature that get frozen solid and survive it? Why are we using vitrification agents which are cytotoxic? Is it really necessary to use liquid nitrogen to cool you down to −195.8 °C, wouldn't it be more reasonable to stick to temperatures these creatures that freeze solid and survive would see? It seems to me we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
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Is The Society for Venturism still around?If you're unfamiliar, they were a recognized religion hoping to help people into cryo. The main thing was a religious exemption card for postmortem autopsy to help keep you fresh. There is also a whole philosophy of benevolence in all things and protection for the frozen into the distant tomorrows. Sounds nice but their site doesn't exist anymore and searches show no results. I thought they were centered in Scottsdale near Alcor. I don't know, seems like I'm a decade too late maybe.
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1000+ years storage? Feasibility questionsI'm very pro-cryogenics, but wanted to discuss some questions i have. Made some quick googling, costs of cryo vary from 30k to 300k... How do I know those companies will still be around in 1000 years or however long it takes to revive a body? Do they ever specify how long this contract lasts? They have to pay electricity, bills, real estate... Keep employed those cryogenists to maintain my frozen body for 1000 years You telling me 30k$ is enough for 1000 years? 5000 years? However long it takes? What's the guarantee frozen bodies won't just get dumped when or if the company goes under? I feel frozen bodies need to be protected by law somehow... 1000 years is a LOT of room for things to go wrong and bodies to thaw, solar flares that can knock down entire grids, power outages, terrorism, cyber attacks, wars, or just human error. And what about the cost of revival? What if revival becomes possible but it costs like 1 million$ per body? We talk of nano machines and stuff... Who's going to pay? We hope that some future philanthropists will take mercy on us? Like "Let's revive one thousand year old bodies and let's see how they react to year 3000 technologies" Thoughts?
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Pet cryonics – would you pay to preserve your pet? ["ManyPets pet insurance has one of the highest cover levels for death from accident or illness – up to £6,000 with our Complete policy. Cover for death is designed to cover the original cost of the animal but you can use it any way you want."]
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What is going on at Alcor?The new CEO just resigned and the newish medical director just resigned. This volatility is not good for the enterprise.
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What is going on at Alcor?The new CEO just resigned and the newish medical director just resigned. This volatility is not good for the enterprise.
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Anti-intellectualism and lack of empathy in cryonicsOn another forum, someone who works in the area of cryopreservation said that cryonics is very difficult...here is my response: Yes, indeed it is...but why is it so difficult? It's important to ask questions...that is the way to gain knowledge, knowledge that can be used to make cryonics less difficult... Cryonics is difficult because it is an attack on the belief systems of homo sapiens, a species of primate with a powerful brain that allows them to see into the future and see that they will die and forever cease to exist...this foreknowledge mentally destabilizes individual humans, which makes it hard for them to function day to day, thus making it hard to pass on their dna... Through evolution and natural selection, homo sapiens has evolved to include in their extended phenotype belief systems that mitigate their fear of impending death...these belief systems are patently impossible and violate the laws of physics, so therefore humans also evolved the ability to delude themselves into believing in the impossible when it comes to what happens after death.. Part of these belief systems include taboos surrounding death..these taboos make it easier to sustain belief in these physically impossible afterlife scenarios that are found in the belief systems of every culture... Cryonics is an attack on these belief systems, a blatant violation of societal taboos formed over hundreds of thousands of years...... pretty simple...well, it's simple if you are a cryo who has done the reading necessary to understand these matters...what reading? Oh, reading textbooks written by academics with PhDs in things like anthropology, sociology, experimental psychology...etc... And why haven't cryonicists done this reading? Well, for one, they are not intellectually curious to do that..secondly, they are rejects from society who harbor a hatred of society...kind of hard to empathize with the society that rejected you...which brings us back to the question of why cryonics is so hard...so maybe the answer is that the culture of cryonics is anti-intellectual, making it hard to obtain the knowledge needed to understand homo sapiens, and secondly, we are antagonistic to the society of man at large, because we are rejects from society, making it hard for us to empathize with normal human beings.
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Anti-intellectualism and lack of empathy in cryonicsOn another forum, someone who works in the area of cryopreservation said that cryonics is very difficult...here is my response: Yes, indeed it is...but why is it so difficult? It's important to ask questions...that is the way to gain knowledge, knowledge that can be used to make cryonics less difficult... Cryonics is difficult because it is an attack on the belief systems of homo sapiens, a species of primate with a powerful brain that allows them to see into the future and see that they will die and forever cease to exist...this foreknowledge mentally destabilizes individual humans, which makes it hard for them to function day to day, thus making it hard to pass on their dna... Through evolution and natural selection, homo sapiens has evolved to include in their extended phenotype belief systems that mitigate their fear of impending death...these belief systems are patently impossible and violate the laws of physics, so therefore humans also evolved the ability to delude themselves into believing in the impossible when it comes to what happens after death.. Part of these belief systems include taboos surrounding death..these taboos make it easier to sustain belief in these physically impossible afterlife scenarios that are found in the belief systems of every culture... Cryonics is an attack on these belief systems, a blatant violation of societal taboos formed over hundreds of thousands of years...... pretty simple...well, it's simple if you are a cryo who has done the reading necessary to understand these matters...what reading? Oh, reading textbooks written by academics with PhDs in things like anthropology, sociology, experimental psychology...etc... And why haven't cryonicists done this reading? Well, for one, they are not intellectually curious to do that..secondly, they are rejects from society who harbor a hatred of society...kind of hard to empathize with the society that rejected you...which brings us back to the question of why cryonics is so hard...so maybe the answer is that the culture of cryonics is anti-intellectual, making it hard to obtain the knowledge needed to understand homo sapiens, and secondly, we are antagonistic to the society of man at large, because we are rejects from society, making it hard for us to empathize with normal human beings.
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Read my other comments. I'm too f!cking tired of writing entire essays to ignorant people like you honestly. Reaching Mars by 2100? Bs more like 2030s. F!ck Russia and China, their people will spiral downwards to suffering and pain. They chose their shit government. They deserved it honestly. No, space programmes were never dead. We took photos of pluto in 2015, sent Cassini to Saturn, sent Juno to Jupiter, sent Odyssey to Mars, sent Perseverance and a goddamn helicopter to Mars, sent Parker Solar Probe, sent an orbiter to Venus, robots on their way to replace surgeons, just many more stuff. The reason why I'm saying these things to you because of your sheer ignorance honestly I'm not going to write essay after essay on the same topic.
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Wdym? We already have flying cars. It like saying that we don't have personal computers just because the majority of people don't own it. Stupid logic you have.
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Cryonics: The Ultimate in Death Denial
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Is Dyson Sphere Key to Immortality?
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"Charles Platt lives in the Arizona wilderness where he writes books about electronics and builds rapid cooling devices for the cryonics community." [Podcast Interview with Kevin Kelly & Charles Platt]
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QuestionI know Alcor and the Cryonics Institute have a list of their patients, is there an equivalent of this for the American Cryonics Society?
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What is going on at Alcor?The new CEO just resigned and the newish medical director just resigned. This volatility is not good for the enterprise.
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"Cryopreservation - Future perspectives from organ transplantation to cryonics", German book about cryonics by Klaus Sames [2022]
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Funeral home in South London that reports they are experienced in assisting and arranging cryonics services, working with Cryonics Institute, Alcor, and Cryonics UK
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How to live forever | Robin Hanson and Lex Fridman [2022]
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Douglas Adams On Mind Uploading"I thought you said you could just read his brain electronically," protested Ford. "Oh yes," said Frankie, "but we'd have to get it out first. It's got to be prepared." "Treated," said Benji. "Diced." "Thank you," shouted Arthur, tipping up his chair and backing away from the table in horror. "It could always be replaced," said Benji reasonably, "if you think it's important." "Yes, an electronic brain," said Frankie, "a simple one would suffice." "A simple one!" wailed Arthur. "Yeah," said Zaphod with a sudden evil grin, "you'd just have to program it to say What? and I don't understand and Where's the tea? who'd know the difference?" "What?" cried Arthur, backing away still further. "See what I mean?" said Zaphod and howled with pain because of something that Trillian did at that moment. "I'd notice the difference," said Arthur. "No you wouldn't," said Frankie mouse, “you'd be programmed not to." Ford made for the door. "Look, I'm sorry, mice old lads," he said. "I don't think we've got a deal." Chapter 31, The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy - Douglas Adams
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Cryonics and upkeep.Does anyone know what upkeep is required for the various cryonics options? Like if some event caused the staff to not be able to go in for a week would they have to worry about system failures?
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When will Tomorrow Biostasis build facilities?Hi. Does Tomorrow Biostasis have any plans to build facilities? I heard that their lack of facilities is what keeps them low, and is the reason why people don't have trust in them. Will building facilities win them credibility?
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Not sure where you got this from, but as far as I know, most of that is not true.
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Not sure where you got this from, but as far as I know, most of that is not true.
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Does anyone know why Patrick Harris left Alcor?I have some Alcor member friends and we were discussing this topic and no one managed to tell me why he left. They complained about the fact that till today Alcor didn't make a single announcement about it, just removed Mr. Harris's picture from the staff page, as if this fact was nothing.
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anyone know what's happening with southern cryonics?Their last update was in march, when they were almost ready to open their first facility.
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Timeship informationsHello guys. I'm reading about the timeship project, and the official website ([timeship.org](https://timeship.org)) reports that the project has moved from: texas to: new york. Does anyone know anything new about this project? I emailed them, and they replied that it will be a special article in an upcoming immortalist magazine, but no license yet. Thanks for the answer.
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Trans Time is looking for a highly motivated marketing specialist to help them to grow their overall impact and research capabilities
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"Chasing Ghosts: Unlocking the Mysteries of Human Hibernation"
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Looking for information regarding Alcor and Mike Darwin. also Larry Johnson photos or anything else reallyBack in the 2000s, Mike Darwin did some crazy shit at Alcor. Among other things, he euthanized a patient without their consent and mistakenly decapitated famous baseball player Ted Williams' body. Williams' head was apparently horribly mistreated while in the Alcor facility according to Larry Johnson, a former employee's book. Most of the allegations were put to rest when Alcor took him to court and he went bankrupt in a legal battle. There was also a cocaine-related incident that took place at Alcor? Larry Johnson also had a website back in the late 2000s with supposedly incriminating photographs he took at Alcor, but they were behind a paywall and are no longer available. Long story short, if anybody here has access to any information regarding Mike Darwin's actions or beliefs, the photographs taken by Larry Johnson or any information regarding the procedure in which Mike Darwin and his assistant (neither of which were surgeons) removed Ted Williams' head in preparation for neural preservation (when it was supposed to be full-body preservation) and how they convinced the Williams family to change to a neural preservation after the fact, PLEASE! let me know! I'm trying to learn all I can about this and think it is a super interesting story and subject. Honestly, if you have access to any information regarding this topic I would really really really appreciate it. My DMs are open, I would love to talk to anybody about this if there is anyone out there who has information or would like to hear more about it. Thank you so much in advance!
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Looking for information regarding Alcor and Mike Darwin. also Larry Johnson photos or anything else reallyBack in the 2000s, Mike Darwin did some crazy shit at Alcor. Among other things, he euthanized a patient without their consent and mistakenly decapitated famous baseball player Ted Williams' body. Williams' head was apparently horribly mistreated while in the Alcor facility according to Larry Johnson, a former employee's book. Most of the allegations were put to rest when Alcor took him to court and he went bankrupt in a legal battle. There was also a cocaine-related incident that took place at Alcor? Larry Johnson also had a website back in the late 2000s with supposedly incriminating photographs he took at Alcor, but they were behind a paywall and are no longer available. Long story short, if anybody here has access to any information regarding Mike Darwin's actions or beliefs, the photographs taken by Larry Johnson or any information regarding the procedure in which Mike Darwin and his assistant (neither of which were surgeons) removed Ted Williams' head in preparation for neural preservation (when it was supposed to be full-body preservation) and how they convinced the Williams family to change to a neural preservation after the fact, PLEASE! let me know! I'm trying to learn all I can about this and think it is a super interesting story and subject. Honestly, if you have access to any information regarding this topic I would really really really appreciate it. My DMs are open, I would love to talk to anybody about this if there is anyone out there who has information or would like to hear more about it. Thank you so much in advance!
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Looking for information on Mike Darwin, Larry Johnson, Ted Williams and Alcor.Back in the 2000s, Mike Darwin did some crazy shit at Alcor. Among other things, he euthanized a patient without their consent and mistakenly decapitated famous baseball player Ted Williams' body. Williams' head was apparently horribly mistreated while in the Alcor facility according to Larry Johnson, a former employee's book. Most of the allegations were put to rest when Alcor took him to court and he went bankrupt in a legal battle. There was also a cocaine-related incident that took place at Alcor? Larry Johnson also had a website back in the late 2000s with supposedly incriminating photographs he took at Alcor, but they were behind a paywall and are no longer available. Long story short, if anybody here has access to any information regarding Mike Darwin's actions or beliefs, the photographs taken by Larry Johnson or any information regarding the procedure in which Mike Darwin and his assistant (neither of which were surgeons) removed Ted Williams' head in preparation for neural preservation (when it was supposed to be full-body preservation) and how they convinced the Williams family to change to a neural preservation after the fact, PLEASE! let me know! I'm trying to learn all I can about this and think it is a super interesting story and subject. Honestly, if you have access to any information regarding this topic I would really really really appreciate it. My DMs are open, I would love to talk to anybody about this if there is anyone out there who has information or would like to hear more about it. Thank you so much in advance!
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Looking for information regarding Alcor and Mike Darwin. also Larry Johnson photos or anything else reallyBack in the 2000s, Mike Darwin did some crazy shit at Alcor. Among other things, he euthanized a patient without their consent and mistakenly decapitated famous baseball player Ted Williams' body. Williams' head was apparently horribly mistreated while in the Alcor facility according to Larry Johnson, a former employee's book. Most of the allegations were put to rest when Alcor took him to court and he went bankrupt in a legal battle. There was also a cocaine-related incident that took place at Alcor? Larry Johnson also had a website back in the late 2000s with supposedly incriminating photographs he took at Alcor, but they were behind a paywall and are no longer available. Long story short, if anybody here has access to any information regarding Mike Darwin's actions or beliefs, the photographs taken by Larry Johnson or any information regarding the procedure in which Mike Darwin and his assistant (neither of which were surgeons) removed Ted Williams' head in preparation for neural preservation (when it was supposed to be full-body preservation) and how they convinced the Williams family to change to a neural preservation after the fact, PLEASE! let me know! I'm trying to learn all I can about this and think it is a super interesting story and subject. Honestly, if you have access to any information regarding this topic I would really really really appreciate it. My DMs are open, I would love to talk to anybody about this if there is anyone out there who has information or would like to hear more about it. Thank you so much in advance!
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If I wanted to donate the MAXIMUM amount of blood to future scientists, I would flash freeze my whole body while masturbating.
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Organ storage a step closer with cryopreservation discovery
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Why Is No One Talking About The Elephant In The Room? Vitrification Agents Are Cytotoxic.I understand here a lot of people here assume that nanotech or whatever can repair any damage no matter how severe. I also understand a lot of people here want to do mind uploading, but a copy of me is not me, and that's the point of getting cryonics right? Not for some other digital being to wake up with my memories, but for my biological tissues to be rejuvenated and resume functioning. Why on earth are we not using natural Antifreeze proteins made by creatures in nature that get frozen solid and survive it? Why are we using vitrification agents which are cytotoxic? Is it really necessary to use liquid nitrogen to cool you down to −195.8 °C, wouldn't it be more reasonable to stick to temperatures these creatures that freeze solid and survive would see? It seems to me we don't need to re-invent the wheel here.
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absomotherfuckinglutely not unless its the only way to revive them. The revivee's right to consent must not be infringed
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