If someone is suicidal due to insurmountable student loan debt, can they have themselves cryogenically frozen without harming themselves first, with the advance directive that they are only to be revived just as soon as the student loan system is abolished?
How to deal with language change in the far future if revived?Words simply wont be recognizable in 150-500 years. How would one deal with that? It’s impossible if the methods to teach are not understandable.
Can anyone tell me their thoughts on the memory/brain portion of Cryonics?Hey there everyone.
Honestly didn't know this was a "real" thing yet, certainly not mainstream. Please be a bit easy on me if I haven't worded things properly, I've only been looking into this the last few days and I'm trying to figure things out quickly.
I did read some posts and comments of people who have done it years ago for their pets on here, but I was curious if there have been any changes/increase of people chronically preserving their pets in 2020/2021.
I did read the CIs FAQ pages, but I was curious about thoughts here.
I think I settled on Cryonics institute provided I go through with it (seems to be popular), but I seem to keep finding extremely conflicting answers to what happens to the brain/memory.
I did have a sample of DNA earlier in the summer taken for cloning purposes by a different company. At first that gave me comfort, but at the end of the day that's just physical DNA.
I see some comments/theories that they should be able to "copy" memories if nothing else. Provided things were preserved well.
However some that state that memory would be compromised/wiped, and that the brain itself would be compromised completely.
I know that no one can say for sure, but I was wondering if someone could break it down for me one way or the other what their thoughts are on this?
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Hot news: KrioRus co-founder tries to take out dewars with patients for the third time?It is happening right now. It is late evening in Moscow (about 8 pm).
According to KrioRus co-founder Danila Medvedev, the co-founder and current director of KrioRus Valeria Udalova with few people are trying to breach into the private territory of cryonics storage to take out dewars with patients. Again.
If you don't know the details of the KrioRus crisis, you might read the recent Reddit posts about it.
She wants to store patients in her own storage. I don't know for sure how this storage looks like but few weeks ago a Russian news channel filmed a location which is most probably the location of Valeria's unfinished storage (note how easy it is to access dewars in this facility, it even does not have doors): [https://static.life.ru/publications/2021/9/15/1093623411384.7742.mp4](https://static.life.ru/publications/2021/9/15/1093623411384.7742.mp4)
Would cryonics work for degenerative brain diseases?Such as Alzheimer’s and dementia. Brain cells die, so the cells that hold memories die. If a person were to be revived, would they be the same again? Would their previous self experience death? Is cryonics a lost cause for brain degeneration diseases due to cell death?
tired of this life.I’m in my early twenties and tbh I already want to check out on life. I watch a lot of anime and a common trope is that the main character dies and gets reincarnated into another world. After stumbling upon a few videos on cryogenics. I had a little idea go off. Is it necessary for someone to wait until the end of their life to get frozen? Could a person not do so right now. I did a few minutes of research and from what I understand they can’t freeze until you are legally declared dead. Anyway cutting to the chase. Could you commit suicide to hurry up the process? Maybe get yourself euthanize or shoot yourself in the heart and have it set up so the folks immediately freeze you. In a sense it really is not suicide if they end up reviving you lol. In summary life currently sucks. I want to sleep and wake up 300 years in the future and be doing interesting shit like colonizing the solar system and not wasting my time in an office
Russian woman raids ex-husband's cryogenics lab, steals frozen brains
Getting the government to recognize the well being of patients?The government (US) doesn’t have any laws in place to ensure the well being of patient’s. How long until they do? There has to be some sort of group that’s advocating for the rights of patients. Because they’re all dead in the eyes of the government. There needs to be some sort of framework for protecting patients in unexpected events.
Which Cryonics institute company will be best for your opinion?And why... and how? Which institute will does not go bankropt and will work much probably which one? I do not have fine English but i think its understandable
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Looking for a liquid nitrogen sensor! Need it to engineer an open-source monitoring device.Hi
I and my friend are developing an open-source monitoring device that will be cheap, reliable, and easy to install in any existing dewar. It will help new cryonics organizations and DIY cryonicists to avoid situations when you are out of liquid nitrogen for any reason.
Basically, the device is a strap with few sensors submerged on different levels. Sensors are connected to a microcontroller which constantly sends information about nitrogen levels. It also sends SMS notifications and makes phone calls when the level is low.
I am a programmer and my friend is an industrial robot engineer so we can develop both software and hardware for this device.
However, we faced an issue in the beginning - we cannot find liquid nitrogen sensors for a sale. The sensor should send different values when submerged in liquid nitrogen and when not. It is possible to buy ready-made industrial solutions but not sensors. I googled for a few days and already thinking of developing such a sensor from scratch (and we currently don't have resources for that🙁).
Maybe someone in Reddit worked on dewar sensors previously and might share a solution. Or maybe someone is a certified pro-googler and could find a seller of such sensors🤩. Or maybe you will share this topic with someone who might help.
If you help us to receive such sensors, I promise to send you a free copy of the device when we finish it😀.
Would anyone be interested in joining a Telegram group about Cryonics?
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Whats your opinion cryonics will work?Or not? Also what do you believe in ? Do you guys agnostic or whatever also how you prepare yourself to death? For works
Why are so many people against the thought of cryonics?Whenever I ask people if they would freeze their body if they had the chance, they always say no. Then I ask them if they want to live forever, most of the same people also say no. I don’t understand why people don’t want to have a chance at cheating death. Is it just the thought of living forever that scares them? What’s so bad about that, aren’t people afraid of death? Or is it the “quackery” associated with cryonics?
Samsung Electronics Puts Forward a Vision To ‘Copy and Paste’ the Brain on Neuromorphic Chips
Preparing for Exascale: Argonne’s Aurora Supercomputer to Drive Brain Map Construction
Cryonics Underground Podcast - Gennady Stolyarov II - Transhumanism, a Philosophy for the Future*\*\*You can listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can also listen on our website at www.cryonicsunderground.com*
Gennady Stolyarov II (G. Stolyarov II) became the second Chairman in the history of the Transhumanist Party in November 2016. Mr. Stolyarov is an actuary, independent philosophical essayist, science-fiction novelist, poet, amateur mathematician, composer, and Editor-in-Chief of The Rational Argumentator, a magazine championing the principles of reason, rights, and progress. Mr. Stolyarov regularly produces YouTube Videos discussing life extension, politics, philosophy, and related subjects.
In December 2013, Mr. Stolyarov published Death is Wrong, an ambitious children’s book on life extension. Death is Wrong can be found on Amazon in paperback and Kindle formats, and can also be freely downloaded in PDF format in the English, Russian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese languages.
Mr. Stolyarov is the current chairman of the US Transhumanist Party and Chief Executive of the Nevada Transhumanist Party, established in August 2015.
In today's episode we discuss:
* What is Transhumanism, and what does it have to do with Cryonics?
* The history of Transhumanism as a philosophical movement and as a political party.
* Gennady's personal journey towards Transhumanism.
* The political structure and political goals of the Transhumanist Party.
* Big umbrella vs small umbrella party politics and other political strategy.
* How Cryonics fits into the Transhumanist platform.
And much more...
European citizen : how did you managed to Set up everything ?Hi,im a french citizen and want to sign up with alcor ,i have the money and the Time to do it but I dont have any information about cryonic for people outside USA
Can anyone help me ? I want to know what insurance / agent i need to contact
Do i have to provide any blood test or urine sample ?
Im 25 years old ,im pretty young to think about cryonic but anything Can happen,i want to be safe as much as possible
cryosphere is a heavily censored echo chamber
cryosphere is a heavily censored echo chamber
Next year will be the 50th anniversary of the Alcor. When?The Alcor website and Wikipedia say Alcor was founded in 1972. When exactly? Which day?
How long you think we can stay frozen like that...
Foresight Institute - Emil Kendziorra & Aschwin De Wolf | Biostasis & Cryonics Q&A [1 hour 34 mins video; transcript available]
So let's say it works and I am reanimated 500 years into the future, I only have a head and no body and no money to buy a new high tech one, and even if I did I still probably have no house and no family assuming they did not get cryopreserved with me, now what do I do.
discussion of alcor cryonics mag 3rd Qtr 2021
Not sure if dumbOk I’m not sure if this is a dumb question but what if I get into an accident or die in my sleep? What can I do to get cryopreserved on time?
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How can we be revived if we are just a collection memories.Since "we" are a colection of our brain synapses, if you don't map it before death it is not possible to bring back the same person. The head may even be brought back to life at some point, but it's only meat, since they don't have the person synapses maped out to make it work perfectly. It won't be the same person and won't have memories.
excellent article on kriorus happenings--the last sentence is dead-on
cheap looking kriorus facility, but that $16k neuro price sure is nice: appearance of facilities vs cost....another ignored issue in cryonics
Conflict in Kriorus becomes hot today
Meeting up at Cryonics Institute AGMHey let me know if you're in town for AGM this weekend! I'm trying to deepen my connection with cryonicists, so eager to meet more people.
1 week to vote in the 2021 Cryonics Institute electionsJust a reminder that there is 1 week left to vote in the 2021 Cryonics Institute elections.
So everyone please vote for the candidates you think would make the best board members!
If you haven't done so already of course 🙂
We are very lucky to think about cryonicThe vast majority of people doesn't give a shit about cryonic, we are very very lucky to just consider it !
If I was another person , I would just think about getting a job, have a family, and die at 80- 90 years old
I really feel grateful to be one of the few people who will sign up for cryonic and live at least billions years
Cryonics vs Afterlife vs Reincarnation which cope most likely to take place logically.
Construction pictures of the 1st European Biostasis Facility (EBF)
How to get signed up for cryonic when you live in Europe ?Hi,Do you know any person I can contact for this? any lawyer or anyone that can fill the paper for me and all the stuff ?
Cryonics don’t have a systems model of freezing or reviving a patient, or making sure it’s memory contain the same personality traits after reviving that was in living human, no document linking presuppositions and actual scientific papers, so we need to create one, maybe like http://biomindmap.com
Could you avoid being disposed of due to bankruptcy?By signing up as a member at more than one clinic so if one goes bankrupt your frozen body is moved to the other clinic as a backup? Just a thought.
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Biostasis Research Institute (BRI) launched in conjunction with the Massachusetts General Hospital and the University of Minnesota to create a human "Organ Bank"
Cryonics Institute, what does it mean to sign up without Suspended Animation?Unless you're local to Michigan, don't you need to sign up with SA too? What is the alternative to SA?
According to their [member statistics](https://www.cryonics.org/ci-landing/member-statistics/) page, there are fewer than 300 CI members signed up with SA, even if those are all US members, that's less than 1 in 4.
What am I missing, I'm confused about the process, what does it mean to be a CI member, but not SA, assuming you're in the US but outside Michigan?
Please answer those questions if You’re a signed up cryonicist . It’s important to understand the Cryonics sign up timeleine and make financial and business models.
Interview with Joseph Kowalsky of CI - on Faith and CryonicsJoseph Kowalsky is a long-time Cryonicist and Officer at the Cryonics’s Institute’s leadership team. Joseph is also a financial consultant and has spoken publicly on behalf of Cryonics at various events in the past. Joseph is leading the fight to promote organ cryopreservation via the Cryo-prize.
In this episode we discuss:
* Joseph's Orthodox Jewish upbringing and its relationship with Cryonics
* How he interprets the intersection of faith and Cryonics
* Misconceptions about religious Cryonicists
* Josephs memories of Robert Ettinger, the Founder of Cryonics
* How the Cryonics Institute keeps their prices so low
* The need for better organ Cryopreservation
* Josephs involvement with the Cryo-Prize
* Musings on the Modern Star Trek Movies
And much more...
You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can also find us on www.cryonicsunderground.com
Cryonics Company. What It's Like to Work in One? - Tomorrow Biostasis
[#13|+7071|310] Those companies that promise to freeze you and revive you in 1000 years will almost certainly go bankrupt somewhere down the line and dump you in a landfill [r/Showerthoughts]
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A new concept for a cryonics organizationHi everyone,
We had an interesting conversation this morning on the Sunday chat. Here’s a [video clip](https://youtu.be/EJWWD-VJwI0) explaining a new concept for a cryonics organization. The original notes from today’s chat are also linked here.
Check it out, and if anyone wants to talk about it, join us next Sunday morning at 11:30 Pacific Time. Here’s the link to the Sunday chat. [https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2940635608](https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2940635608)
Here’s the video: [https://youtu.be/EJWWD-VJwI0](https://youtu.be/EJWWD-VJwI0)
Here's the document: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1spsswz1oNWI-hP1u9bAoyM09dG6IdrTz/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=108155332828411067156&rtpof=true&sd=true](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1spsswz1oNWI-hP1u9bAoyM09dG6IdrTz/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=108155332828411067156&rtpof=true&sd=true)
For the first time successful recovery of a rat kidney from the vitrified state using nanowarming is shown [Aug 2021]
CRYO HERO KIDS SHOW DRAFT 1
Just came across these, are these real? ALCOR (scandal long ago, but I didn't see the photos before)https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20101203_jintaireitou_kodansha/
As in I understand that the claims are wild & all, & I have seen the facility, much of the instruments shown are very similar to what's actually used there.
Which would lead one to believe that the photos expect the one with the inverted head with the metal cup thing (claimed tuna can) attached to it are fake?
Or is the The normal procedure? Does the thing attached to his head have some sort of functional value.
It's not the gore value of the photos that bother me, people look ghastly upon death (I started med school, so I've seen worse) its the possibility there might even be a small grain of truth to these statements.
I already know that Alcor took legal action against this former employee, although I don't know how it turned out.
Can anyone familiar with these events help me understand the veracity of these sensational claims? I understand most of you maybe familiar with this already and it may seem like beating a dead horse, but for me this is the first time I'm seeing these photos (some of them are censored /blurred, but if you click on them the image is displayed). Are they all fabricated or something? Or this is what a typical procedure looks like?
Hate to bring up something that's happened a long time ago, but it would be great if someone pointed me in the right direction.
He is not a troll, he is a Trump supporter.
Could it be a standard operating procedure to mandate cryonics patients whose CoD is COVID-19, to take drugs like vTose upon resuscitation?There was a power drug, made by someone in MIT which had been observed to take out at least fifteen viruses like a power weapon.
Unfortunately, it was trapped into the valley of death until it was picked up by a tiny NZ startup and rebranded it as vTose.
If vTose do wonders against COVID as expected, could it be a standard operating procedure to mandate cryonics patients whose CoD is the 'rona, to take vTose upon resuscitation?
How much does strait freezing a small dog costAnd what companies do it
Any news on kriorusThey had 3 patients this year, is the conflict over?
cryo talk 8-7-21--facing mortality--is this why cryonics failed? discussing the reasons why cryonics failed to thrive...is it because we cannot face our own mortality? Or is it something else?
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Join us Oct 22-24 with the who's who of cryopreservation as speakers, community events, dinners and a **visit to the new European Cryopreservation Facility from EBF (20 min from Zurich Airport).**
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Which concentration of the best antifreeze protein yet discovered in animals is equivalent to 27.2% glycerol by volume in terms of antifreeze properties?
I know it's difficult to say an exact answer, what would be an approximation?
Would that concentration of that antifreeze protein be lethal?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Are you signed up for cryonics?
Thoughts on cryonics for non fatal disorders?So I'm not to familiar with cryonics but I was wondering if this could potentially be an option for people with non fatal disorders that significantly decrease the quality of life of those who have them where there is no real treatment for it anytime in the near future.
Peter Tsolakides, Director of Southern Cryonics, interviewed on Australian talk radio
Australian cryonics facility on track to open at Holbrook
Austrian cryonics center being established to ‘bring the dead back to life’
Theory of Cryonics - Manga Edition - (Japanese Edition) [2019 Japanese book about cryonics, based on an English translation of the Amazon reviews, it seems to discuss technical aspects.]
Cryonics Underground Podcast - Nikki Olson on Life Monitoring Devices for CryonicistsNew Episode incoming! You can find us on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nikki-olson-on-life-monitoring-devices/id1550475209?i=1000529869156), [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/3uioj1F7XjELAbvDrwOQRI), [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8xNTEwNDUzLnJzcw/episode/QnV6enNwcm91dC04OTEzNjQ3), or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can also listen on our website at [https://www.cryonicsunderground.com/](https://www.cryonicsunderground.com/)
**Nikki Olson - On Life Monitoring Devices**
In this episode Max and Daniel speak with Nikki Olson. Nikki is a writer and researcher in the field of futurism and trans-humanist topics and she is currently working as a software engineer. She is one of the worlds top experts in the field of life monitoring as it pertains to Cryonics.
In today's conversation we discuss
\-Nikki's journey to becoming interested in Cryonics
\-How Nikki decided life monitoring was an issue that needed to be solved
\-The current devices and software available on the market
\-What differentiates a traditional life monitoring device from ones that could be used for Cryonicists -The challenges in retrofitting current devices such as the Fit Bit or Apple Watch for specialized purposes
\-The possibilities of open source software for creating a useful product
\-The pitfalls of life monitoring alarms and false readings
\-And much more...
If you would like to discuss the episode, you can find us over at the[ Cryonics Underground Channel in the Cryosphere Cryonics discord chat server.](http://bit.ly/cryonicsunderground)
what does it mean for afterlife if cryonic works ?If someone is brought back from death, what does it mean for afterlife ??